From me at buddies.org Wed Jul 1 01:33:34 2009 From: me at buddies.org (ME) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:33:34 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: pdate on Tabitha In-Reply-To: <2F0FCEB4D6804BBF90FE5B48D57345F7@Lynn> References: <2F0FCEB4D6804BBF90FE5B48D57345F7@Lynn> Message-ID: <32F3BC7B-C21B-4771-A25A-68CA245195A6@buddies.org> Well, it sounds like Tabitha is probably just fine and the vet will confirm that. But this is a good reminder that our little friends hide illness very well, so we all need to be vigilant to look at any change as a possible sign that something might not be right and act quickly. There have been enough times when I've gone to the vet, only to be told there's nothing wrong ... but at least I have peace of mind. Of course, there's also been times when I've been told there's nothing wrong, but there really was ... it just didn't show up on tests ... and I've learned to trust my intuition in those situations and push for some kind of action, even when my vet isn't sure what's wrong. On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:45 AM, jaaladog wrote: > Good morning all, > > Well, this morning and last night, there was no further damp chin > on my girl. There was a bit of crustiness on her left eye though. > I just wiped it off and having read your advice checked her > breath. It smelled, I suppose, like guinea pig breath should > smell. Nothing really. Just piggy breath. I held her up to my > ear as close as I could get her. I could feel her little breaths > hitting my ear canal but did not hear anything out of the ordinary. > Kind of a very faint whistle but I assume that is normal too. She > is breathing fast but for a small animal, that would seem to be the > norm as well. She has lost no weight and is eating and drinking as > usual. I am holding her right now and she is on my chest with her > head down, flat out, all four legs spread and very comfy looking. > She looks like a little bearskin rug when she does this... it's so > sweet. I think she's asleep but who knows.? Oh, I don't know if > her eyes are clear because Earl has gone to a job this morning but > should be home by noon. But, whether they are cloudy or not, we > are off to see Dr. Sheperd. I refuse to take a chance with my > Tabby. Especially with all the recent losses on the list and the > loss of my father, if I can prevent one more from going to the > bridge before their time, I don't care what it costs. > > Thanks so much for all the helpful advice, > > Lynn From DaPiggyPirates at aol.com Wed Jul 1 04:36:13 2009 From: DaPiggyPirates at aol.com (DaPiggyPirates at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:36:13 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Seeking another poetic post buy not Lynn's AND Lynn's post Message-ID: Someone wrote a small post either for Snowy Bear or for Debbie, before she left us. It was not written by Lynn but it was writing of Lynn's caliber. Someone mentioned it in the last day or two. I should have copied it when I read it but I did not, and I don't even remember who wrote it. If someone knows the post I mean, would they please forward it to me at this address? I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, I'm still just a little too numb yet to write regarding Debbie's leaving for the Bridge where I know she'll be so warmly welcomed. Lynn's post was so incredibly beautiful. I could see our little guys on the deck of the ship and felt that I, too, was somewhere there with them sharing their sorrow and awe. We have all lost such a good friend, humans and animals. One only has to read Lynn's post to know that. In deep sadness, Alge ************** Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops ? Deals starting at $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2 D0) From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 1 10:56:15 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:56:15 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC]: To Cindy Message-ID: Dear Cindy I did try twice to email you back directly after your meassage sent to me via GPDD but my email (to your email address) bounced twice, so I am replying to you via the Digest. I hope you don't mind. Thank you for your message, you said some very caring things and I really do apprecaite it. I have been trying so hard to decide what is best for my darling BG. I feel that the kindest possible thing I can do for BG is to find him a home with another very caring guinea pig owner who has a boar he can be paired with. I cannot have any more guinea pigs as the hurt has been so very terrible, but also my mother has dementia and is getting progressively worse, and our 15 year old cat has heart failure, so it is going to be hard. There would have to be provisos to it -- such as if BG and the other gp did not get on, I would take BG back. I would also want the opportunity to see him every now and then, as I could not part with him if there was no possibility of me ever seeing him again. It is such a hard decision but when I thought about the fact that he potentially could live another 2 years or more at least, to have him do so alone for all that time is just not fair to him. I just want him to be happy, and much as I deeply and truly love him -- and God knows I really do, I cannot be a substitute for another gp and give him the 24/7 company another gp could give, and he so deserves that as he is a highly social pig and so utterly adoreable. I feel it's the least I owe him. It will be equally as hard as it was to lose Artie, but I feel I owe BG nothing less. I really do love him. In the meantime, I am trying to find someone who may be willing to 'loan' me a rescue gp so BG can have some companionship each daytime when he is in the garden. It may just be there is someone who can help. I'll have to ask around and see what might be possible. If there is someone nearby who may be able to help, that would be wonderful. Thanks you again for your kind words. Carole From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Jul 1 10:33:53 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:33:53 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC A Sad piggy story Message-ID: Do you really want to read a sad story? Maybe not, but I have a reason for posting this one. The Piggyfriends' garden is a release site for rehabilitated hedgehogs for our local wildlife rescue organisation (WRAS). The hedgehogs arrive in the late afternoon for release at dusk so I was surprised to see Monica, the hedgehog lady, on my doorstep this morning with a carrier. She cares for all kinds of injured or orphaned wild mammals and currently has harvest mice and stoats at home in addition to the hogs so people are always arriving at her door with wildlife casualties. This time, however, someone had given her a tiny baby guinea pig, who, she was told, had been rejected by his mother. She did not know this person but will always help any animal in need. She has hand reared so many little creatures that she set about looking after this baby boar in the same way that she would have cared for a baby hedgehog, not realising that she should not be syringe feeding a piggy as she would a hoglet. She put him with her own two adult piggy sows for company and he seemed to be doing well, attempting to eat from their bowl and trying little bits of carrot. This morning, he was very down, hence the race over to my house. She had been feeding him on the milk replacer that she uses for baby wild animals. I do not know if this caused the problem or the inability of a baby piggy to take milk from a syringe. Maybe his mother instinctively knew that he was not well. I explained the correct way of hand rearing a guinea pig in case another came her way. Sadly the little guy did not make it and has just passed away. Monica was dreadfully upset as she thought that she was doing the right thing by the little fellow and was amazed at how differently baby piggies need to be treated as opposed to the wildlife that she generally handles. She wishes so much that she had called me right from the start but it is easy to be correct with hindsight. Anyway, dear friends, the point of me telling this sad story is that I would like this little boar to be included in the Snowy Bear Memorial when it takes place. I'll write what I would like Gingerbread to say in a separate post. He will always be remembered here although he was only at Piggyfriends for a morning. Sweet dreams precious little one. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Jul 1 10:34:51 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:34:51 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Snowy Bear and Beloved Bridge Piggies Memorial Service Message-ID: <85CA109FF67E41B89E827252C3D2F004@inspiron1150> Would the organisers of this wonderful virtual event please add another sentence to Gingerbread's words at the Service. "We would also like to remember Monica's Little Sweetheart who left for the Bridge from Piggyfriends. He was only with us for a very short time but he will always be in our hearts. Sweet dreams little one." Many thanks, Tearfully, Penny. From warmbreath at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 07:19:23 2009 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:19:23 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Crusty eyes References: <8078A149690B43E8A39BF33EFEC88CAF@inspiron1150> Message-ID: <363D0FA865F4473BBFF7F4178115B1E8@SNADY> sometimes a lack of water can cause crusty eyes as well as any number of infections so check the water bottles. Feed her wet greens, and whee will pass on the message to da cooks on da Black Pearl. Also manny da Boar had crusty eyes and nose with the infection he had so be sure she gets checked Sandy From agbmcmd at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 11:45:06 2009 From: agbmcmd at yahoo.com (Audrey Binder) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Debbie Message-ID: <742922.20566.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have just now read the post that our dear Debbie has left us.? My heart is heavy and my eyes are filled with tears.? Like all of us here, I feel like we have lost a dear friend and family member, because in many ways, we are a family.? My heart goes out to Debbie's family and to the Dolly Mixtures left behind. ? Debbie was our shining light in France on the Peter Gurney Candle Lighting Memorial.? Now she is at the Rainbow Bridge and I am sure that she will be welcomed there by the Dolly Mixtures who have gone before her, as well as all of the guineas, and Peter Gurney himself.? She will forever be remembered for her kindness and her caring. ? I will light a candle for her tonight, and will think of her when I see a bright star at night in the sky. ? Audrey, and Gordon the GP (Remembering Reese, who will be there to greet Debbie) From agbmcmd at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 11:58:29 2009 From: agbmcmd at yahoo.com (Audrey Binder) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Eye Problem Message-ID: <629117.21188.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My friend Ricki needs advice about her guinea pig Chelito.? Chelito is about 4 years old and one of his eyes is somewhat protuding and has a clearly-defined, somewhat ragged inflamation around the eye.? I looked at Chelito for her and told her to take him to the vet right away.? She did, and the vet thinks that it may be glucoma, and gave Ricki several prescriptions for Chelito.? Chelito was recently treated for a UTI infection and the vet also filed his teeth (under anesthesia), so I wonder if the eye problem could be a reaction to the previous meds, or maybe Conjunctivitis. ? Has anyone experienced anything similar to this?? Any information is appreciated. ? Audrey, and Chelito's friend Gordon From windchimes at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 1 12:04:05 2009 From: windchimes at sympatico.ca (Joanne Gosnell) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:04:05 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Debbie Message-ID: I join all those who are mourning the loss of our dearest Debbie. I spent the day yesterday weeping and searching for the right words befitting of someone so special. Words do not come easily. I was humming various tunes that welled up inside me - sad ones. I first corresponded with Debbie in 2004 when Tex put us in touch at a time when my piggie Tootsie was recovering from gut stasis, just after one of hers had gone through this. I had mentioned in our 'conversation' about my father battling cancer, and she then shared her own battle of cancer. I never thought it would have ended this way so soon for someone so young. God, I thank you for Debbie and the large heart you gave her - she lived big and loved big; for the brave heart that she was; for the friend she was to all your creatures; to those on this list and others. I am thankful for how she encouraged others; for the wonderful stories she shared of both pain and triumph. I thank you for Pete and Sarah by her side; may you comfort them and the family and all their creatures now and in the days and weeks ahead. Thank you for the blessing Debbie's life was to us all. Please tell her we all love her. I thank you that all that Debbie was and still is will forever be a part of each one of us and these precious creatures. I can picture Debbie at a large pignic, surrounded by all who went before her; she is laughing and smiling in the sunshine. We will miss her so very much. This is one song that brought me comfort yesterday. There are many versions of this on youtube, but this one reminded me of Debbie somehow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANAZFXgNLgo &feature=related Joanne Gosnell In Ontario Canada From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 12:18:51 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: sad piggy story Message-ID: <792400.89934.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh, Penny...that is so sad! Poor baby. "Rest in Peace, Little Sweetheart" Joanne and her herd of 6 In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 12:22:37 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Piggies Memorial Message-ID: <414487.71418.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi... Can you please include the following for my babies who crossed the bridge, please? In memory of my sweet ANNIE, ABBIE and MONKEE with love from your Mommy who will forever miss you. Thanks, Joanne In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Wed Jul 1 12:54:06 2009 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:54:06 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE : Debbie Message-ID: I lit a candle last night to remember Debbie, such a kind and caring member of the gpdd. A life cut far too short. We will all miss her. Stefanie XXX _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From jaaladog at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 1 14:14:39 2009 From: jaaladog at bellsouth.net (jaaladog) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:14:39 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: A SHIPBOARD PAJAMA PARTY Message-ID: <9F372DAADC2F4BD9B641519DD0A225AD@Lynn> Ahoy fellow piggyless slaves, Since most of us have pigs off on an adventure right now, I thought you all might like to hear about the video I received from my girls today. Not sure who was doing the filming but I think I heard some giggles in what sounded like Mary's voice coming from behind the camera lens. The video opens showing both of my girls looking into the lens in a room full of other sows, all laughing, giggling and making faces for the camera. There is much noise and it looks as if they are all dressed in their nighties and in for the night. Some are wearing hair curlers, some have sleeping masks on and some have some sort of white goop on their face that they have apparently recently purchased during one of the many "must have" shopping trips they have all made into the ports of call. Directly over Samantha's shoulder, you will notice Miss Ginger Puff, curling her long locks of hair on hair curlers. Miss Muffet and some of the other sows are offering helpful advice as to what style will look best on her. To the left, in the far corner, we see a small table set up with many, many colors of nail polish sitting atop it, along with files, clippers and buff boards. There are at least 4 sows sitting around the table, all with paws outstretched, applying coats of many colors (pardon the biblical pun) onto their lovely nails. We can hear them discussing all the handsome bores on board. Captain Jack's & Barnacle Bill's names are spoken more than once, amidst much blushing, TITTERING and deep sighs of longing. Nothing like a bore in a uniform, eh? We notice that Onyx, true to her name, is painting her nails black. She is talking about trying the "Goth" look that is all the rage amongst young sows at the moment. In the background, Jody & Peaches go fox-trotting by, apparently practicing the new dance steps they have learned in preparation for Jody's upcoming nuptials. Jody is holding that little paw up quite proudly so that the light will hit her ring "just so" and make it sparkle for the camera! She throws her Mommy Slave a big ckiss as she trots by and out of camera range again. In the far right corner, we can see Hershey mouthing the words "Present arms!" over and over a she pulls out her sowrd with a snap, presents it at an angle then quickly returns it to the scabbard hanging at her side. She is apparently practicing her moves following the mishap earlier today. She is looking quite profficient and very, very proud of herself! In a very excited voice, Tabitha begins her usual chattering. Tabitha: Hi Mommy! (Waving wildly at the camera) It's me, Tabitha! See? (She blows a big bubble with her pink bubblegum she is chewing. It inevitably pops and goes all over her little face. She begins peeling the pink sticky mes from her whiskers, giggling all the while.)) (Samantha rolls her eyes heavenward at this) Tabitha: (undaunted) We decided to have a pajama party tonight and . . .. Samantha: (Butting in) And we invited all the sows to our room to spend the night and have girl time. We are playing. Tabitha: (Resuming right where she left off, so rudely interrupted) We are playing records and doing our nails and curling our hair and, uhm, and. . . uhm. . . Samantha: (Sighing deeply and once again interrupting) And we are having lots and lots of wonderful treats to snack on. Earlier, those 2 cute guys, Igor and Fugly, my beloved, tried to crash the party and came to the door and knocked. We all cried out "Who is it?" and they said "Room service"! We all looked at each other and kind of laughed and . . . Tabitha: (Now getting quite huffy about Samantha's constant interruptions) And then we pulled the door open really fast and yanked them both in and piled up on them and held them down and tickled them. I think Igor laughed so hard he may have wet his pants, but I'm not really sure about that 'cause someone had spilled some carrot wine earlier and it could have just been from that. (She throws a meaningful glance in the direction of Hershey.) Then, we opened the door again, gave them both wedgies and pushed them back out in the hall again! (Starting to giggle and begin a new sentence . . . ) Samantha: Well, anyway Mother, we are having a grand time and we . . . (The camera now goes flying through the air and tumbling across the floor as we hear much squealing and laughing and "Hey! Let me go!" and then we hear. . . Tabitha: I'll teach you to keep interrupting me! I am surmising from what I can hear on the video that at this point, Tabitha has tackled her big, bossy sister and they are rolling around and around on the floor, in a true sibling squabble until finally, seeing her chance to get a little of her own back on Samantha, Mary runs over and helps Tabitha by opening the closet door and then slamming it closed and leaning against it after Tabitha had unceremoniously shoved Samantha into it. The camera is once again picked up and Tabitha continues. Tabitha: So, anyway Mommy, as you can see. (A muffled banging and "Hey! Let me out of here!" emits from the closed door on the side of the cabin. Tabitha: . . . We are having such fun. All the girls are really nice and . . . (Bang! Bang! Kick! Kick! You hear me??? I'm telling Mommy!) Tabitha: (taking quick, anxious glances toward the closet door). . . I've made lots of new friends. Some of the bores are kinda' cute too! (OK, that's it. I'm counting to 3 and then. . . 1 . . . 2 . . . Tabitha: (speaking very quickly now) Well, gotta' go now Mommy! I think Samantha is teaching some of the younger sows to count and I want to go help. Help! Help! The camera once again goes dark as we hear a very loud "3!" A door bangs open and again, much squabbling and squealing can be heard. Sigh. Girls, what are you gonna' do with them? More later if I get any more news. From jaaladog at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 1 14:35:10 2009 From: jaaladog at bellsouth.net (jaaladog) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:35:10 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Need a pig roster from the adventuer Message-ID: <6F2FF43C358D4435B76CA059433AFED1@Lynn> Hi guys, I know I am leaving out some important sows and bores in my ramblings but I am finding it very difficult to keep up with who all is on board. If you have piggies on the adventure and want them included in all the shenanigans, please drop me a line with the names of those who are in attendance, along with their gender. Thanks! Lynn From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 1 19:22:34 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Debbie's memorial Message-ID: <55340.92096.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you, Lynn, for giving us such a lovely vision. I cried with the wonder of it. Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 1 19:24:37 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Toby Message-ID: <604490.76796.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Rainbow Bridge has been so busy, I'm not sure if I said good-bye to Toby. Farewell, Little One. May memories of you bring joy to all who loved you. Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 1 23:50:34 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: Hershey's confession Message-ID: <156471.85122.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Mommyslave. I have a confession to make. I'm afraid I caused a ruckus without really meaning to. The other day, I saw some bedding stuck in someone's fur and pulled it off of her bottom. She squeaked and jumped and bucked a little, just like I do when you're clipping my hair on my backside. Well, it created a sensation and caught on. And before you knew it, there was a lot of squeaking and jumping. I think some of the more rambunctious piggies got carried away. I hope you're not mad at me. Humbly, Hershey From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jul 2 00:43:48 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 04:43:48 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual :Snowybear & Beloved bridge piggies memoral Message-ID: <20090701.214348.21164.3@webmail07.dca.untd.com> I would like to remember my first piggie Albert (the one who started it all), my blind but brave piggie Molly & my two hammies Radar & Daisy, who were honored to be honorary members of the digest. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Victim of medical malpractice? 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I'm sure your friend had the best intentions to heal the little one & with your knowledge next time she will be able to do so. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Criminal Lawyers - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOVoLGWmoeBVBTmCDuTQnjpzGzYCdumSRw0qGdnEewl475rhBQ7WQ/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jul 2 01:13:27 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:13:27 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT- tribute to Debbie Message-ID: <20090701.221327.21164.6@webmail07.dca.untd.com> I haven't posted about Debbie yet cause I just am not sure how to put into words what her friendship meant to me. She was always there with advice when I needed it, or a goofy e-mail to cheer me up when I was feeling down. I "talked" to her more then I talk to some people in my own family. She was kind of like my own online Mom. I know many have already lit candles in her memory, but I was thinking we could do a "round the world" candle lighting for her like we do for Peter Gurney every year. Then compile a list & map so Debbie's husband Pete can see it. She was loved, literally, by people all over the world. I would be more then happy to compile a list of names & places, but I don't know how to do a map. Maybe whoever did the map for Peter could help us with this one. Sorry I forget who that person was. We would just need to pick a day & time. I know it's a generic tribute to such a special friend, but I can't think of any other way we can all honor her & I think it would nice for Pete to see all the places she is being remembered. If anyone is interested in this let me know. Love you & miss you Debbie. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click now for low quotes on great group health insurance plans! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQb2SDpB41vrcoterafbPe1UGHmU5h9zfftKtzikenHaJF4JU2UsY/ From suzy at dunser.com Thu Jul 2 02:53:46 2009 From: suzy at dunser.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suzy_D=FCnser?=) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:53:46 +1200 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC - tribute to Debbie Message-ID: <7370452F-F646-440B-AFB9-6626DB3514C1@dunser.com> Hi Jaime, I think a round-the-world candle lighting would be a great idea. I hope Debbie will see it, or feel it, from where she is... Suzy with Rocky and Cocoa in our hearts From DaPiggyPirates at aol.com Thu Jul 2 03:45:23 2009 From: DaPiggyPirates at aol.com (DaPiggyPirates at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:45:23 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Bridge: Debbie Message-ID: I'm sorry. I have not yet posted anything about Debbie's passing to the digest. As much as I was expecting it, and near the end even hoping that her body would set her free, well, I just haven't quite come to terms with it. There have been so many posts coming from such deep places within you. What an incredible lady she was! And she was loved by so many, myself included. How could one person share so much with so many, people and animals? And her honesty was amazing. I so like the images of the little animals awaiting her arrival at the Bridge itself. Thank you, Joanie. I sent yours on to Pete when I read it. (It's the one I've been seeking and I already had it.) And Lynn's pirate ship filled wth little bodies, little guinea pigs, eyes wet with tears waiting for and knowing her presence as it moved over them and then a new star was born -- with little stars clustering about the brightest one. (I sent that one on, too, after she crossed over to the Bridge.) And dear dear Joanne. You so truly loved her. So many of us here did and still do, but your love was somehow almost a thing apart. God blessed us all -- with Debbie. Alge and the little piggy pirates ************** Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops ? Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1) From warmbreath at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 06:07:19 2009 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:07:19 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Eye Problem References: <629117.21188.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My Piggy Manny the boar was diagnosed with a corneal ulcer at the same time he was treated for the pneumonia that sent him to the Bridge, it could have been a sharp piece of hay. Protruding is difficult, though, in buns they will often give a head and chest x-ray to see if something like infection of teeth, gums, heart enlargement, lungs or a chest cancer called thymoma might be taking up too much space in the area and putting enough pressure to cause this. He will have to see a piggy savvy vet ASAP incase there is pain or in case its treatable before the eye is too damaged. Sandy and Shipwreck Sam From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jul 2 07:06:48 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:06:48 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Eye Problem Message-ID: Audrey, I am sorry that Chelito has an eye problem. A few weeks ago, my Cadbury had a similar mishap. His eye was protruding horribly and looked really sore and nasty. I could not find any evidence of a hay poke and his eye did not turn white as so often happens when it is healing after such an injury. It reminded me so much of my Daisy, who had a tumour behind her eye, that I rushed her over to see our Rodentologists. They told me that they had seen piggies with eyes that looked horrendous but which had healed up completely with no more extensive treatment than some eye ointment. Fearing the worst, I left him at the hospital for treatment. They could find no reason for the condition of his eye and treated him with opthalmic drops. The eye gradually cleared up and he was soon home again looking as good as new. He must have injured himself somehow, maybe with a claw when cleaning himself, maybe it was a hay accident, I just don't know but I am sure that if my eye had looked like that I would have been at the ER, screaming in pain. Cadbury did not even seem to notice what had happened and carried on eating. I do hope that Chelito's eye mends as well as Cadbury's. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From jaaladog at bellsouth.net Thu Jul 2 09:47:01 2009 From: jaaladog at bellsouth.net (jaaladog) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:47:01 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Tabitha Message-ID: <818C26C4E4CF4998AB7ADF8BAB0C0618@Lynn> Good morning/evening/day everyone, Tabitha was given a clean bill of health by her doctor last night. Her eye seemed to stay pretty much clear all day but I wasn't taking any chances. The vet seems to think, as a couple of you suggested to me, that it was probably just the very powdery hay I had put in the cage a few days earlier. It was good hay but did have a lot of the fine powder that makes us sneeze. She loves to be in the hay and is forever burrowing; or perhaps hiding from Samantha; in it. Now, I just have to get her to quit being mad at me. Earl and I were passing her back and forth, back and forth, listening to both sides of her lungs, turning her this way and that, putting her nose in our ear, looking/feeling her eyes. LOL Poor thing. She was quite put out with the both of us. She finally gave my ear lobe a good nip to say "Enough already!" Thanks for all of your very helpful advice. I learned some new stuff to look and listen for when or if this happens again. Hugs & Whisker kisses, P.S. Does anyone know how to get bubblegum out of whiskers?? Sigh Lynn From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Thu Jul 2 10:04:05 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:04:05 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Debbie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Peter I am so sorry for your heart-breaking loss. It is hard to find the words that would convey just how sad this situation is and how deeply you must be feeling it all right now. I did not know Debbie personally, but everyone spoke so highly of her on the Digest and of her love for guinea pigs, that I know she must have been a lovely person. I will pray for you and also that your family and friends will be a great source of comfort and support to you at this very sad time. With sympathy Carole From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Thu Jul 2 10:06:48 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:06:48 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Piggies Memorial In-Reply-To: <414487.71418.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Can you please include the following for Artie? In memory of my darling boon-boy ... the reason I came to know and love all guinea pigs everywhere, but especially you. Thank you Carole From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 2 14:49:29 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Memorial candles for Debbie Message-ID: <638914.36414.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Great idea, Jaime! Count my candles as lit. Debbie was one special person. This is a tangible way for her husband to see how many lives she touched. Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 2 14:59:54 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC.: Piggie Memorial Message-ID: <225741.50481.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Please include Vrie, a nearly perfect piggie in everyway, and the enigmatic Blobby, both of whom suffered from my ignorance with such grace. Joanie From muncheemom at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 16:47:28 2009 From: muncheemom at gmail.com (Kacee Conklin) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:47:28 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Debbie Message-ID: <7ce1d4910907021347k45a5453cp5f1470b3c86a40a0@mail.gmail.com> I am so bad about the lighting of the candle thing so I am going to do it now for Debbie. What a dedicated slave she was taking Scoot all the way to England for treatment. Hopefully she'll meet up withScoot and the Munchees at the Bridge, as well as Mini Munch, the hamster. Kacee and the Munchees 10 From kaplans at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 2 19:50:58 2009 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:50:58 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Care: HOT WEATHER Message-ID: <85B8B83F19A045389E635D63336D0983@stephensucks> Hi Everyone, Here are a few tips for keeping your animals cool during this hot weather (or at lest it's hot here and Oregon). : ) Freeze clean pop bottles full of water and then wrap one in a towel and put it in a corner of their cage. Freeze gallon jugs of water (like milk jugs) put them in a pig ceramic bowl (like a dog dish) and put it in the cage. As the ice melts it cools the bowl and the animal(s) can lay against it. Freeze ceramic tiles and then put one in the cage. Cover part of the cage with a damp towel and blow a fan at the towel. On low of course. Put a block of ice (milk jug or pop bottle) in front of a blowing fan and point it towards the cage. Be careful with fans that the animals aren't always in constant moving air. I hope some of you can use these helpful hints. They really come in handy especially if you don't have an air conditioner. If anyone has any other hints please write. Sarah and the piggy gang From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jul 2 20:55:18 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:55:18 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] You Tube song Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220CE7@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Joanne that was lovely, maybe we could also have this as a tribute song for Debbie? I have been reading all the messages from everyone and i know they will help her family. Love Glynis, Velvet and Onyx (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jul 2 20:53:45 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:53:45 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Baby Piggie Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220CE6@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Penny i'm so sorry to hear you were unable to save the little piggie, your friend did a wonderful job and i know she tried her best. These little ones are so complex aren't they :o( RIP Baby Piggie run free at the bridge, you are now safely in the arms of mummy piggies who will show you the best grass and dandelions to munch on xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))) and special loves to you Penny, once again you have been a champion in looking after an ill little rescue piggie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Another little star twinkling in the sky ..................... :o( Loves Glynis, Velvet and Onyx (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jul 2 20:51:15 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:51:15 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Candle Lighting for Debbie Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220CE5@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Jaime i think that's a wonderful idea :o) We lit a pretty silver candle for Debbie, it's actually a christmas one, but i thought it was such a pretty one that it was more fitting. I took the candle down to the girls area and sat and lit it..........tears flowed but i said to the girls this is for a dear friend of ours to both slaves and masters. RIP Debbie Jones, then i gentle blew out the flame and said "the flame might be out, but your light continues to shine Debbie" xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis, Velvet and Onyx (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jul 2 20:56:45 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:56:45 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Chelito's Eye Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220CE8@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> I too would go to the vets eyes can hide many things. It maybe be a piece of hay or it could be an abscess i do hope not :o( Healing wheeeeeeeeeks and gentle little kisses for Chelito, please keep us posted on his progress. Love Glynis, Velvet and Onyx (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jul 2 21:00:28 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:28 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [VIRTUAL] Caribbean adventure Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220CE9@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Well i was not surprised to hear that Onyx is dressing like a goth, it would suit her with her black tail of hair mixed with a little tan. I received a sweet note from Velvet and Onyx to say that when they all heard about Debbie going to the bridge there was so many tears and everyone hugged and looked after each other. I believe too that they're all going to send a lovely card and flowers to the Dolly's and the family. I've not heard anything else from them, so if anybody hears from my little munchkins tell them i love and miss them. Love Glynis (patiently waiting at home....with fresh veggies) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Fri Jul 3 00:15:19 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:15:19 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Independence Day Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220CF1@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HAPPY 4TH JULY EVERYONE IN U.S.A. I know this is early but i'm not at work on saturday's and i didn't want to miss out saying it to all our lovely friends in the U.S. Love Glynis, Velvet and Onyx (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From me at buddies.org Fri Jul 3 00:48:44 2009 From: me at buddies.org (ME) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:48:44 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Tabitha In-Reply-To: <818C26C4E4CF4998AB7ADF8BAB0C0618@Lynn> References: <818C26C4E4CF4998AB7ADF8BAB0C0618@Lynn> Message-ID: <79A614B8-9B13-4119-8004-970B4B9E09E6@buddies.org> Glad she's doing fine ... I have one that reacts to dusty hay ... she's been breathing a little noisily lately ... I wish I could just help her blow her nose and it would probably go away. But her weight is normal and her alertness and curiosity is normal and her lungs are clear ... so I just keep an eye on her. The only thing I could do is not use hay as bedding, but then I'd either have to change the bedding for everyone (all six of mine live together) or remove her ... and I don't think either is a good solution. As for her being mad at you ... mine always get that treatment ... as I'm always examining them (I have daily and weekly checks ... remember, they hide illnesses well ... knowing what is normal makes it easier to spot changes quickly) ... all that's required to get back in good graces are a few baby carrots or a lettuce leaf or some oats or ... well, you get the idea. On Jul 2, 2009, at 6:47 AM, jaaladog wrote: > Good morning/evening/day everyone, > > Tabitha was given a clean bill of health by her doctor last night. > Her eye seemed to stay pretty much clear all day but I wasn't > taking any chances. The vet seems to think, as a couple of you > suggested to me, that it was probably just the very powdery hay I > had put in the cage a few days earlier. It was good hay but did > have a lot of the fine powder that makes us sneeze. She loves to be > in the hay and is forever burrowing; or perhaps hiding from > Samantha; in it. > > Now, I just have to get her to quit being mad at me. Earl and I > were passing her back and forth, back and forth, listening to both > sides of her lungs, turning her this way and that, putting her nose > in our ear, looking/feeling her eyes. LOL Poor thing. She was > quite put out with the both of us. She finally gave my ear lobe a > good nip to say "Enough already!" > > Thanks for all of your very helpful advice. I learned some new > stuff to look and listen for when or if this happens again. > > Hugs & Whisker kisses, > > P.S. Does anyone know how to get bubblegum out of whiskers?? Sigh > Lynn From firedawglt21 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 12:28:58 2009 From: firedawglt21 at yahoo.com (Marty Sisco) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: Snowy Bear and Beloved Bridge Piggies Memorial Service In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <773864.81214.qm@web53601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I love this memorial idea since I didn't announce my last two that left for the Bridge. In memory of Winnie, my loving first piggy with the easy purr, love for tomatoes, and a radar that alerted him when someone was in the kitchen. He left for the Bridge on Jan 1st, 2000. In memory of Blaze, my super active shoulder sitting piggy. He visited Mom in the nursing home and brightened her day as well as the staff. He went to the bridge in May 2003 and now visits my mom in Heaven. (she passed 2/8/04.) In memory of Sid- my champion wheeeeeeker. He came to me from my ex sister in law, whose grandson was two and rough with him. When she asked me if I wanted Sid I said yes. I asked questions about him like his age and what he liked and all she said was, "I don't know- he's a RAT!" with a bit of disgust in her voice. He came to me in early 2003 and went to the bridge in February of 2009 so even though I don't know his birthdate I do know he qualified for SCAMPS. He had problems with impaction, and thanks to my reading of the GPDD, I was able to recognize it and know what to do. OK- that's too long so here's what I'd like read: In memory of Sid, my champion wheeeeeker and oldest piggy so far that I have had. He didn't like Tiger but would join him in wheeking contests when food was around. He was skittish but learned that I was safe, even when I had to deal with his impactions. He left for the Bridge in February 2009 with no warning. :( In memory of Tiger, my kissy licky guy. He did not get along with Sid at all but he loved to sit on my chest and lick my nose. He came to me in 2004 and is the only piggy I've had whose birthdate I know- October 31, 2003. He went to the Bridge two wheeks shy of his 5th birthday in 2008. It was a shock because he seemed healthy and I expected Sid to go first. Love, Marty, with Sox the Teddy and Tigger the baby Aby From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Fri Jul 3 15:44:59 2009 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:44:59 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge Message-ID: Oh Penny I was so sad to read about the baby boar. I'm sure he would have loved to have become a fully fledged Piggyfriend, but it was not to be. Debbie will be looking after him now, though. Stefanie (and The Surrey Squeakers) _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 3 16:40:26 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Candle for Debbie Message-ID: <229472.69516.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just wanted Debbies family to know that there was a candle lit for her here in? Moline, Illinois. She will be sadly missed by soo many as she has touched so many lives.??I am sure she is very busy over the bridge giving each and every little fur baby a special cuddle for us. RIP Debbie Jean & Andy and the many misfits From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Jul 3 18:59:05 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:59:05 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT- candles for Debbie Message-ID: <20090703.155905.11560.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> If you have lit a candle for Debbie let me know your city & state or country & I will start compiling a list. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8v74rDUTQh4L5aymyjaiacpGsblLCrcvaXz8eyApnKI1mas3WQ/ From jaaladog at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 3 20:24:35 2009 From: jaaladog at bellsouth.net (jaaladog) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:24:35 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC; This & That Message-ID: Hello everyone, I haven't had much time to answer mail or read posts today. We have folks coming in from out of town as well as a few friends coming over tomorrow for a 4th of July cook out. I have gotten everything ready so now, I can relax and enjoy myself. Tabitha is doing fine. Her eye has totally cleared up, Thank God. Joni, I wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed your tribute to Debbie. It was great and very moving. I talked with God today and I asked him to be sure and introduce Debbie to my Daddy. They are both animal lovers and I'm sure would have much to talk about. :) I also want to tell you Alge, how very much I enjoy your pirate posts. They have the taste of realism yet also a touch of humor in all of them. Thank you so much for providing us all a source of such enjoyment Thanks to all of you who wrote me with advice for Her highness, Tabitha. I learned many things and have kept all the stuff in a folder for future reference. I do want to light a candle in the ceremony for Debbie. Please advise as to when we are going to do it. I really do want to participate. In fact, tomorrow, I am lighting a red, white and a blue candle for my father. He was a career Navy man and loved and served his country well. Someone asked about the Vet Registry. I think it was Mieke but not sure. I am the one who offered to make up the initial one and save it in a Word document. I will update it as names are added. If you or anyone else wants to send me the vets names and contact information, I will put it together pronto. Gotta' go for now. I smell baked beans and I think it's time to get them out of the oven. Yumm! Hugs and love to all of you and yours and be looking for a new story coming soon to an e-mail box near you... Hugs, love and whisker kisses, Lynn, Tabitha & Samantha From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 22:05:05 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: site for DEBBIE Message-ID: <275237.85145.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all... Debbie's husband Pete now has a website in her memory. You will see their lovely wedding photo and Pete encourages her friends to leave a message. Here's the link: http://debbie.jones.muchloved.com/ Joanne In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 23:04:42 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Tribuite to Debbie Message-ID: <256884.8601.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jaime... a tribute to Debbie around the world would be wonderful. Pete would love it. Debbie's birthday is November 3rd... what do you think? Joanne In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 23:05:56 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Song for Debbie Message-ID: <406563.46129.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Joanne, your song choice is wonderful. Thank you for sharing it with us. Joanne from New York In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jul 4 05:40:58 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:40:58 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Happy 4th. July Message-ID: <91CD841723604B4EB85F73C9F9ECE4A6@inspiron1150> To all of our friends in the US we would like to wish you a happy 4th. July. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From mfug at live.co.uk Sat Jul 4 06:25:15 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:25:15 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; helping spcaLA Message-ID: Hey guys Fugly here, while taking a break from pirating to update my blog I have discovered we can all help the animal charity Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in Los Angeles. I have added socialvibe to my blog http://undercoverguineapig.wordpress.com/ On the right hand side you will see a box that says click to help now, you click that then you have to watch a short video and rate it by clicking on stars underneath, it then asks for name and comment you can see a list of who else has clicked there as well, then a box pops up asking where you want socialvibe if you dont want it just close it down. On the blog it shows how much my blog has helped. This works in the same way as the animal rescue site I think. I hope you can all help animals and humans to get along. Fugly aka Agent F From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jul 4 08:49:05 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:49:05 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Thankyou Message-ID: <30A9637096BD495C8B44D6A9EFF62FA8@inspiron1150> Thank you dear piggy lovers who mailed me regarding the loss of the sweet little baby boar. I keep thinking about him and how loved and cherished he would have been. Monica, the hedgehog lady, after seeing my sow groups running around in their floor pens, has decided that she wants to add to her two piggy girls and is going to buy them a large pen, to which she wants to add a rescue sow or two. To this end, she has asked me to look out for any sows in need of a good home. My local rescue had their summer Open Day last week and, of course, I had to go and look in the Cavy House. There were only a few sows, all of whom had been reserved and several baby boars. Was I tempted? Of course I was but I do not have room for an extra pen unless the piggies start taking over the bathroom. Now, if there had been a sow waiting, she would probably have come home with me. I can always add a sow to a group without needing another pen. Our Rodentologists, who number several rescuers among their clients are going to watch out for sows needing rehoming and when Kevin gets home from his holiday, he will be watching out at the rescue ( where he works ) for a sow for Monica. So, although this was a sad story, the outcome will be that two more little ones find a forever home. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jul 4 12:07:21 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Candles for Debbie Message-ID: <814068.98142.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jaime: A candle was lit for Debbie by our family in Mahopac, New York, USA. Thank you for doing this. Joanne In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From joedee1986 at verizon.net Sat Jul 4 17:59:05 2009 From: joedee1986 at verizon.net (joedee1986 at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Memorials Message-ID: <966406.75412.qm@web84003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, The moderators of the GPDD, yes we are out there quietly behind the scenes, would like to suggest a way to have a memorial for all our friends, human and animal.? We would like to suggest we keep the Candle Lightening Ceremony originally started for Peter Gurney, but expand it to include all our members and GPs who crossed the bridge that year. This year we would add Joe Petrillo, GP George's dad and Debbie Jones of the Dolly Mixtures. What do you all think? Dee for the GPDD moderators From juwles at bigpond.com Sun Jul 5 03:36:15 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:36:15 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Debbie, Candle Lighting Message-ID: <88E76F7207A642658F313F4125AB7BF5@JuliePC> Hi all, I think the messages that have been coming thick and fast following Debbie's passing say it all. She was a lovely lady, a very special person, who adored her piggies and family. Her efforts taking her beloved piggy across to England are an inspiration. She really was an angel of cavies - and yes, definitely deserves a candle lighting in her memory. We at the Digest are going to be the less for having Debbie leave our Group. But at the same time, I say a big thank you to our Lord for having let us known you, for having brought such a very special lady into our lives. Live on in Eternity Debbie, have a great time with all those wonderful piggies who would have met you at the Bridge. You won't ever be in pain or suffer again, and will now live a joyous existence in God's house, forever. God Bless you Debbie Julie & her boys If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it From juwles at bigpond.com Sun Jul 5 03:56:55 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:56:55 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS : Piggy Memorial In-Reply-To: <225741.50481.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <225741.50481.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <74644092DD3048AFBF2C3580BA2135D2@JuliePC> Hi everyone, I would be indeed grateful if you would add Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy to the piggy memorial list. Those piggies showed me what love is, how loving such a small creature can be so rewarding, what wonderful personalities they have, and what a comfort they are to their human slaves. They will live on forever in my heart & soul (Just as well I'm an overweight girl, my heart has to be bigger anatomically don't you think and that surely means there's enough love to give all my beloved boys!#!?) Julie & her precious boys From mfug at live.co.uk Sun Jul 5 06:20:37 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:20:37 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Candle for Debbie Message-ID: Jaime , thank you for organising the candle lighting list for Debbie, I believe it is Audreys partner who made the lighted map for the Peter Gurney candle lighting. We lit a candle here in the south east of England for Debbie M + Fugly + Spooky From mfug at live.co.uk Sun Jul 5 06:23:26 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:23:26 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Website for Debbie Message-ID: Dear Peter, thank you so much for creating a website where all Debbies friends from around the world can honour her memory. I have yet to post a tribute on the site as I am having trouble finding the right words, as soon as I have found them I will leave a message. Our hearts go out to you and Debbies family furry and non furry at this sad time. M From warmbreath at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 14:28:25 2009 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:28:25 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] (Vitual) The Great Pirate Adventure, Shipwreck Sam and Jodie the Jolly adventures Message-ID: <7E96E5860A524024AABA156CC3B98513@SNADY> Shipwreck Sam and Jodie the Jolly have met in the Black Pearl's foc's'le for another of their many dates. It is the Fourth of July and the Cap'n Jack has announced an ole' fashion American fireworks celebration with ordnance obtained by agents Igor and Fugly, aided by Barnacle Bill who invented a cover story for their absence. Cap'n Jack is asking no questions. Shipwreck Sam: Welcome my darling, you are as lovely as ever, (he startles suddenly when she looks at him) OMG! Why are your eyes black! Are you hurt, Were you in a fight!! Jodie the Jolly: No! Silly, this is the latest in fashion, it's called "Goth" Onyx shows us how (she bats her suddenly extended and very dark eyelashes at him, her eyes are rimmed in black) All us sows are trying it out. An have you heard the music, whee are listening to Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson! Tre' cool. Shipwreck Sam: (He winces slightly) OH! yes everyone on board is hearing it. Myself, I prefer the deck practice the boars are doing to learn that "Thriller" dance by Michael Jackson. Another slave gone to bridge, zo sad, da humans be gathering in da streets Jodie the Jolly: (flashes a dazzling smile and holds up her paw which sports a glittering glove.) Yeah! I be doing dat too! Shipwreck Sam: Look! der goes the first rocket, it's beautiful, dose sillies Fugly an Igor did a good thing dis time. Come closer honey (he moves in and then jumps away like a stuck pig) What's dat ting aroun yer neck! A collar!! Whee piggies don wear collars, whee da masters! It sticks me, ders spikes on it, what da hecks! Jodie the Jolly: It's all in the Goth look, darling, dont be so jumpy. It's zo fun!(They angle around each other trying to get close and comfortable) besides you have an earring now dat you be a big bad pirate, right? Shipwreck Sam: Well ya, yur right! Lets eat then! (he reaches for the pignick basket, again so perfectly prepared) Jodie feeds him little carrot slices cut in the shape of stars) Well, Goth or not you are marvelous, sweetie (he purrs sweetly as another rocket shoots up breaking into a golden starburst) Jodie the Jolly: It's a good ting whee have dis time together, tings are getting really busy wit all da piggies arriving for the memorial, do you know when it is? Shipwreck Sam: Not fur sure, but dis wheek, der be zo much to do. Cap'n Jack, he be working very hard. He posted orders dat da whole ship be cleaned and polished. Tomorrow I hafta muck out da poop deck. (laughs) did you see poor Igor and Fugly, de pulled dat duty twice for sneaking off da ship wit out orders. I heard dey was riding dolphins! Dat be right hard for a little piggy, lots harder than riding a big ole flat turtle. But I got a email from my momma slave to quit doing dat cause it might bother dem, but I writes back an sez whee only did it after dey laid der eggs, an whee helped dem look out for plastic bags dat might be mistooks for jellyfishes. Zo she said Ok!, but not to make them go fast cause dat whole egg thing be very exhausting! (He pauses, and changes subject) Now dat whee got dat shipment of Blackberry Pearls da piggies all be writing home more, zo I hope whee start getting more slave messages, but I heard her Highness, The Princess Snowflake is berry concerned about how whee got dem and might be sending an investigator, probably her Minister, Bertie, I hope der not be a scandal, or worse arrests! Jodie the Jolly: Yes, no troubles now I hopes. Whee hafta put into some port and get flowers an candles, and allot more hay, whee be making wreathes for Snowy Bear and all the oder piggies whee be memorializing, and dat wunderful Parent Slave Debbie, dat passed dis wheek, so sad, she were wunderful and saved zo many homeless piggies. it be an honor whee have a chance to honor dem all. I hope one of her piggies can come to memorialize her wit a wreath, or maybe Joanie's pig, She was zo loved by all. (She pauses, a tear starts) Whee be lucky to be here together all healthy and zo happy (a huge triple burst goes off overhead) (She smiles then, looking down at the sparkly ring around her left wrist) Itz sad whee hafta put off our wedding tho. Shipwreck Sam:: Yes honey, your parent slaves will come around, de just want der time wit you being zo new in da house wit dem and Pegleg Peaches, whee have to be respectful, de be our elders, but still, (sighs) Jodie the Jolly: It doesn't change my feeling for you, my love, I am zo happy you will wait for me (the night sky lights up with multiple explosions signaling the finale of the fireworks show. Dey purr together as de wrap up the remains of the pignick which are very few)Well yes, time to go, I know der be a Pig Air helicopter coming in tomorrow wit more piggies who want to honor der lost bruders and sisters and parents at da memorial, good ting whee have Pig Air. Shipwreck Sam: Yeah! and I'm sleepy, no partying for me tonight, (he helps her onto the ladder gingerly trying to avoid the spikes in her collar) Sweetheart, do yee tink dis Goth ting be a lasting trend? Jodie the Jolly: No sweetie, not to long, its just zo fun for now, I gotta find Peaches, haven't seen her today, wunder what she be up to! They kiss sweetly as de reach da bottom of the rope ladder, Hand in hand they head for the main deck and part as dey reach the crowd of other piggies who are waving sparklers in unison. Sam blows her a kiss which she deftly catches and presses to her heart From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 5 18:40:54 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 15:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: A good out come:) Message-ID: <615343.95632.qm@web80202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Penny, That is so sweet that two more sows will be rescued:) Aww such a sweet ending to such a sad story.. I did shed more than one?tear when I read about that sweet little bore. Thank you for sharing the "rest of the story" you will have to keep us up dated on the? little girls that get resuced:) Jean and the many misfits:) From mfug at live.co.uk Mon Jul 6 04:31:12 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:31:12 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Spooky has diarhoea Message-ID: Please keep fingers crossed for my little guy Spooky. Yesterday evening we noticed he had diarrhoea he was still eating and drinking so we divided the cage to seperate him and Fugly and kept an eye on him, at 22:00 he stopped drinking but was still eating at midnight he still hadnt drunk so I called 6 "local" vets and no-one would see him, they said he wasnt an emergency and to call in the morning. At this point I moved Fugly back to his old cage to be on the safe side, they can still hear, see and smell each other. This morning his poop is still fluid he hasnt eaten or drunk, and was just sitting in corner looking sad. I have just come back from the vets they are keeping him in to get some fluids into him, I can phone in a couple of hours for an update. He has lost so much weight Friday he was 484g this morning only 401g and according to vets scales only 390g but think they are for bigger animals so not as accurate as mine (I hope). When we got Spooky I did it to make his life better and now I feel so guilty I have made him iller. I think its the fresh food and grass that have upset him. Fugly is fine but I am a crying nervous wreck Anyway enough of me, please keep Spooky in your thoughts and I will keep you updated. M From mfug at live.co.uk Mon Jul 6 09:38:29 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:38:29 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Spooky update Message-ID: Hi guys, I phoned the vet at midday and they told me they had given him something called Fibre Plus (I think) to help make his poops solid but at that moment they were still fluid. They also told me they had just syringed fed him and he was really keen to get at the food. (I am so relieved) They told me to call back at 2pm for another update, at 2 they told me they are happy for him to come tonight, so at 5.20pm I am going to pick him up and they are going to show us (me + oh) how to syringe feed him so we can do it at home. After his bad start in life I am determined this little guy is going to have the best I can give him. M _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ From DaPiggyPirates at aol.com Mon Jul 6 07:22:56 2009 From: DaPiggyPirates at aol.com (DaPiggyPirates at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:22:56 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Virtul / Announcement: Delay likely Message-ID: Hi All, A lot of the work on the preparation of the Memorial list, etc. will be being done by Sandy: (warmbreath at comcast.net). This is Monday morning. I need to sleep and get ready for Tuesday's surgery, which, at the moment, seems less minor, but I think that's probably because I have to be up by about 4:30 AM to get ready to leave here, by med transport, by 5 or 5:15 AM. :) No, a couple things occurred to me today, and I'm glad they did but they do tend to complicate things a bit. But it is good to be fully prepared, and I wouldn't have been. (By the way, this surgery in no way deals with any kind of malignancy or biopsy.) Also have my standiing every-4-week IV on for Thursday and that's a 7 hour thing. Please keep info coming - but so much has happened over these last 2 wheeks that I know we're going to be behind. This has been a difficult time for everyone. Apologies, Alge and the Piggy Pirates, Capt'n Jack and Barnacle Bill ************** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377077x1201454398/aol?redir=http://www.freecre ditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62) From matildalucet at earthlink.net Mon Jul 6 22:13:27 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:13:27 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Debbie Message-ID: I remember Debbie wrote a couple of songs about the Rainbow Bridge. It seems right to bring this one back now. -ginger co-slave to Bumper, Cuddles, and Brownie remembering Niles, Clover, Butterscotch, and Mike PIGGIE FUNERAL HYMN (to tune of "Abide with Me") Your time has come, the Rainbow's calling you; On Earth you've done all that you had to do. Now comes the end to suffering and pain - Farewell, my love, until we meet again. Run free and popcorn in those meadows sweet, Wheeking with joy at old friends that you meet. You'll always have a place within my heart, Though you won't see me we wobn't be apart. Dear little one, I bid you go in peace; You know my love for you will never cease. Wait at that Rainbow Bridge a little while, 'Til all together we can cross in style. From chiefoperator1 at verizon.net Mon Jul 6 23:58:08 2009 From: chiefoperator1 at verizon.net (Stephen Bradley) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:58:08 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Snowy Bear Message-ID: I am sorry this is so late in coming; I have been away from the Digest for a long time. It's still very difficult for me, and I just read the posts about Snowy Bear tonight. Corrine, I wanted to write, because what happened to you was so similar to what happened to us with our dear Mr. Mike back in January. His bladder was ruptured while a vet was trying to get a urine sample from him, and we did not realize what had happened in time, and we lost him. We have played it over and over in our minds, wishing we had gotten him to a different vet, or asked different questions sooner, of course. We were devastated. We tried so hard to do all the right things, and we couldn't save him. We loved him so much, and we still couldn't save him. Right now, most comforting words won't mean much to you, but at some point, you will come to see that it's not about doing the right thing, about making the perfect decisions -- nobody makes the perfect decisions every time, in every situation -- it's about loving our pigs with all our hearts while they're with us. Whether or not there was anything you could have done, or anybody else would have done, differently at any given moment, that's an imponderable mystery. How much you loved him shines through every word you write. We are crying for Snowy Bear, and for you, in Melrose tonight. Steve and Ginger, and Mr. Cuddles, Mr. Bumper, and Mr. Brownie, Remembering Niles, Butterscotch, Clover, and Mike, forever and ever and always. From mfug at live.co.uk Tue Jul 7 05:30:27 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:30:27 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] health: Spooky update Message-ID: Well its mixed news really, we have collected Spooky from the vets along with a supply of Fibreplex and food to syringe feed him. I am not very good at the syringing luckily oh is much better at it. Thanks for advice about Bene Bac Ty, unfortunately when I googled it, it looks like its only available in the states I am in the UK. It sounds like the Fibreplex which we have for him, as well as containing fibre it contains pre and probiotics. We put Spooky back in his cage and he ate a little timothy hay and drank some water, I was so relieved. We syringed fed him some more but he struggled, kept turning head away and using paws to push syringe away, we stuck at it and eventually got him to eat some. Syringe feeding is messy. We gave Fugly his fresh food and Spooky wheeked the place down in protest, another good sign, the boys also talked to each other through the cage bars. Spooky is much more active and his poos other night are a mix of really watery still fluid poo and unformed soft mounds which are a step in the right direction. He is still active and this morning I saw him eat some more hay, doesnt appear to have touched the pellet food though, still drinking and even had a wee, yesterday he didnt wee at all,the vet said that was because he was losing the fluids in the diarrhoea, so another good sign. The bad news is he has lost weight again, he is now down to 378g so not out of the woods yet. Please keep fingers crossed I dont want to lose the little guy. Is there anything I can be feeding him to help him put the weight back on, anything I can give to help speed up the poop firming? Thanks for your help M _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Tue Jul 7 06:25:38 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:25:38 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly;Message from Fugly Message-ID: Hi Mummy, well at last we have all got our illegal pirated blackberry pearls, sorry I mean our completely legitimate blackberry pearls. The girls have decided to go for the goth look so me and Igor have decided to start the boys off on the "glamrock" look, well you know how much we love wearing make-up heehee. We also get to wear tight sparkling trousers to show off our sexy manly bums. Igor "borrowed" his slaves wii (he said she would be so busy with new job she wouldnt notice it had gone missing) and we have been playing "Glamrock Guitar Heroes" Igor is really good on guitar and I have perfected the high pitched vocals to "The Darkness I Believe in a Thing Called Love" You can tell Daddy my wheek is not a girly wheek it is a manly glam rocker wheek. Well I must go and get ready for tonights performance make-up and hair and squeezing into tight trousers. Fugly the Funky _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From joyalge at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 11:22:14 2009 From: joyalge at hotmail.com (Joy Alge) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:22:14 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement: message from Debbie Jones' sister Message-ID: Forgive my intrusions for although I think piggies are adorable little animals I could never be their slaves. However I know that Deb absolutely and genuinely was. I have felt compelled to visit your archives where I found my sister preserved in her true colours. Her postings are a great comfort to me and I am sincerely touched by your tributes to her. I have no doubts at all that although you never met her face to face many of you were true friends of hers and shared a world that I have a deep respect for - I once nursed one of her sick piggies so I have glimpsed the intensity of your world. So genuine thanks to you all; I know that this part of her life -your community - was extremely precious to her. with love and respect Joy x _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 7 18:22:42 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Spooky Message-ID: <775324.11249.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear little Spooky, We are saying lots of piggie prayers here for you here in Misfitville?to get better fast.?Lots of little wisker wishes for a speedy recovery. The?Misfits:)? From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 7 18:25:42 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Alge Message-ID: <819898.62227.qm@web80205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Saying? lots of prayers for a fast recovery from? your surgery Alge. Feel better soon. :) Rest when you can. jean & andy and the many misfits From pandameisje at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 07:26:43 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:26:43 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Memorial for Debbie Message-ID: Hi Dee and rest of the GPDD moderators, I have to agree with you that we should honor Debbie and other Masters and Slaves that have left us, on the Peter Gurney memorial, if we want to make this a yearly event. I, personally don't think it will have an extra meaning to do two memorials each year. When remembering Peter, we also remember Debbie, Joe and of course all the piggies we have lost over time. Just my opinion... Right now I know loads of GPDD-ers already lit a Candle for Debbie, and most seem to have posted to the GPDD about it. If anyone wants to these could be made up in a list, and be put on a map like was done for Peter's memorial. But then we need the marvelous people who did that for Peter's memorial. Love to all, Slave Mikey p.s. Poor chico got quite a big piece of hay stuck in his eye. vet removed it and now we are treating him with eyedrops. I am hoping it will heal just fine. I have good feeling about it, but vet said he might loose sight in that eye... Please, keep him in your thoughts. Will try to write about arrival of Chico and Guiny at the pirate party later today! -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From ann.evans at hintlink.com Wed Jul 8 15:49:01 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:49:01 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Spooky and diarrhoea Message-ID: <4A54F82D.4070507@hintlink.com> Dear Spooky, I want you to get better fast. This is what I do for any of my piggys that have diarrhoea. Diarrhoea is extremely dangerous. The first thing that needs to be done is to stop the diarrhoea. This can be done be giving orally 0.8 ml of children?s Imodium. A second 0.8 ml dose can be given 8 hours latter. Do not give more than 2 doses. Children?s Imodium = Loperimide HCL 1.0 mg in 5.0 ml. Secondly fluids must be given. Spooky needs a minimum of 40 ml of fluids/day. You mentioned he is drinking, but is he drinking enough?? You can syringe feed him Lectade or put it in his bottle and see if he will drink it on his own. Lectade = 20 ml liquid Lectade to 250 ml water. You can also use Pedialyte which is found in the baby food section of the grocery store. You can use it undiluted. If he is not getting enough fluids by syringe or bottle then it is best to take him to the vets and have subcutaneous fluids administered. 10.0 ml of body temperature 5.0% Glucose with 0.9% saline can be administered at one site. A total of 40 ml of this fluid can be administered over 24 hours. Hopefully he will stabilize after he has the Imodium and the fluids. I would feed him only hay and dry food and Fibreplex. You can also make a mush out of his dry food and water any syringe feed him. Now you will need to address the cause of the diarrhoea. Has he been eating too much grass or green veggies? When was the last time he was treated for internal parasites? I am a member of the Cambridge Cavy Trust (CCT) and Veterinary Hospital but I know they will help anyone that calls. The help line is 7721026401. If he has never been treated for internal parasites I would immediately give him orally 0.4 ml 2.5% Panacur = fenbendazole or 0.4 ml 2.5% Valbazen = albendazole. Both are POM?s. I always give piggys with diarrhoea one dose of the Panacur for 5 days in a row. It will not only kill internal parasites but also helps to re-establish the normal gut flora. Hopefully this will cure him. If the diarrhoea is bacterial or fungal in nature then the CCT is the best place to get advice on what are the medications you should use. I am praying for you and your piggy family. Ann and the rescued piggys of Piggyville Tampa Florida USA From warmbreath at comcast.net Wed Jul 8 15:03:37 2009 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:03:37 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] (Health) Spooky has diarhoea References: Message-ID: I am surprised to hear Spooky has diarrhea, not that common in piggies. Have they given a cause. It seems to me most likely that it would be either parasites or a virulent bacterial infection like pastuerella or bortedella (sp) which require antibiotics. The parasite question can usually be handled with a test called fecal float. How old is he and how long had he been away from mum? When choosing a probiotic, a people health food store will usually have a choice of many, and you want to pick the one that has the most different friendly bugs listed, the lactobacillus found in yogurt being the most un-needed because piggies dont need to digest milk products. Try to pick ones that dont have sweetners esp sorbitol and aspartame added (check the baby gas drops below for this too), sorbitol causes gas and diarrhea, so the kind that come in capsules would be the best. Give the probiotics on an oppositie schedule as the antibiotics i.e., if the antibiotics are given twice a day say at noon and midnight, then the probiotic would be at 6 am and 6 pm. Also, I'm sure you know this but make sure the vet isnt giving penicillen by mouth, will cause the diahhrea and worse. It could be his new diet now that he lives with Fugly, allot more veggies, so when he recovers he may just need pellets and hay to start, but I cant see a diet change causing such a severe case. It is very good you were able to get him to the vet and get sub-Q fluids, a life saver for sure. I believe that plain kaopectate can be given, and if he has gas, you can give baby gas drops the active ingredient being simethicone, be sure to get the kind that just say gas, not gas plus diarrhea because the kaopectate is the only safe diarrhea medication. I would also discuss with the vet if short course of opiates might be appropriate, they will stop up a gut really fast. Being in the UK I wonder if you have given Vedra Standley-Spatcher at the CCT in Oxford a call for a consultation, her contact info including phone is easily Googled. Also be sure to check www.guinealynx.info for acceptable antibiotics You have my fervent hope for a quick and complete recovery, poor little guy. I'm sure he is in the best possible hands. much love, hang tough little guy Sandy From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jul 8 20:49:27 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: SPOOKY Message-ID: <103253.4419.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have been thinking about your Spooky. It's a good sign if he is active!!! I hope his appetite increases and he gains his weight back. My Macie had become very lethargic and lost weight, yet when I took her to the vet, they found her to be in perfect shape; teeth and all. After separating her from the girls, she ate, drank, etc. normally and is once again the first one at the front of the cage for food. These little guys sure can scare us! "FEEL better, Spooky!!!" I hope the next post says that he's back to his little self! Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jul 8 20:51:40 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Chico Message-ID: <158126.80092.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ouch! I hope Chico doesn't lose his vision. We're thinking of the little guy...keep us posted! Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie In memory of my beloved friend DEBBIE whom I will forever miss. November 3, 1956 - June 30, 2009 ***tears*** From mfug at live.co.uk Thu Jul 9 02:42:57 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 07:42:57 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] health; Spooky latest update Message-ID: Hi all, firstly thank you for all your emails and support, dont know how I would have coped without you guys. Yesterday Spooky's poops had firmed up enough for us to be happy to let Fugly back in with him (Spooky was looking so sad). Well company must have been just what he needed as he has been following Fugly and copying him ever since, we have had running and popcorning and he has hardly stopped munching. (Fugly had his veggies in old cage) Spooky had a tiny piece of carrot and some banana. Overnight he has gained 16g and now weighs 388g a step in the right direction. Steve he is now fighting the syringe as you said, he turns his head and bats at it with his front paws I know I shouldnt laugh but he is funny to watch. He still has a way to go before his poops are normal and I am happy with his weight, but today I really feel positive, have been so worried since it started I was convinced we were going to lose him, now I am confident he is on the mend (touchwood). Once again thank you everyone and I will keep you updated M From pandameisje at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 06:38:51 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:38:51 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Got word from Chico and Guiny Message-ID: Hi all, Finally I have heard from Chico and Guiny! They left a couple of days ago to join the Pirates. Guiny writes: 'Dear mommy, We have arrived savely at the ship (a couple of days ago). Sorry for not contacting you earlier, but Igor was so busy that I could not borrow his blackberry. And of course i needed his help, I do feel I'm turning in to an old lady, all this new technology confuses me! We are enjoying ourselves very much here, I love seeing all my old and new friends again. Dunya and Woopy are very busy and active on the ship, and like all the other girls they have took on the Goth look. Since Dunya is a himmi, the black is very noticable compared to her white fur. I do not like it all. But I am confident they will get bored with it once we are home... Chico is enjoying the company of all the boars here. They are very nice to him, and I think they all gave him their their condolences for loosing Toby and I am pretty sure I even saw some tears flowing. Chico's eye is looking okay, still has the white/pale blue look on it, but it does not seem to bother him. The ship's nurse is putting the eye drops in it for him. The little flirter is always rumbling at her! I think it's good that you made him that little eye patch, you know how rough those boys can be. Plus it makes him look like a tough pirate, he says. There is one thing that is puzzling me though. Things keep disappearing from the ship! It's mainly from the food category that goes missing all the time. I got no idea how that happens, but am keeping an eye on our supplies. I have installed my cavy cozy near the supply room, but of course it's unguarded during night, cause i need my sleep as well. Love from Guiny, also from Dunya, Woopy and Chico p.s. Can we have an egg card as well?' Glad to hear they finally let me know they have arrived! Grtz Slave Mikey -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From jocelynm at umich.edu Thu Jul 9 09:28:19 2009 From: jocelynm at umich.edu (Anderson, Jocelyn M) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:28:19 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [BEHAVIOR] Big Pigs Chasing Little Benito Message-ID: <3AF9B038A6B07641B36C799ED4EBB0D7046B713BF7@ITCS-ECLS-1-VS3.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu> Hello People and Piggies, I'm seeking some new piggie advice! When baby piggy Benito first arrived, I kept him split off from the other two piggies with a barrier in the middle of the piggy arena. This way they could sniff and wiggle rumps at each other. After a few days I removed the barrier between the two parts of the cage. Flashbang Fatbottom decided he was going to sniff Benito's bum nonstop, and when Benito ran, he was going to chase him around. I've seen this before, but this went on for days and poor Benito kept panic squeaking. Edgeworth would get fired up too and also try to chase Benito, but since Edgeworth is a big pig he can't run every far. Last week I put the barrier back up because I was worried that Flashbang or Edgeworth would smoosh him. Edgeworth is enchanted with Benito, always sleeping near the barrier and following him along the side of the cage. When Benito starts racing around doing the Piggy 500 Edgeworth will start running (I use that word loosely) too! That's all fine and good, but Flashbang is chattering his teeth a lot at Edgeworth now. Piggy jealousy...? Last Sunday I put down some towels and put all the piggies into a small arena so I could moderate. Edgeworth was sooooo excited that he was widdling all over. Flashbang sat there with his eyes bugging out while Benito ran around. Right now I'm keeping the barrier up. Should I give them a bath? Should I wait until Benito gets to be a bigger piggy? I'm not sure what the best thing do is. And because I can never resist showing piggy pictures - Benito in his new tent: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3696457588_b783ffebaf_o.jpg Benito in cuddle cup: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2510/3695648081_445d5fa38d_o.jpg Jocelyn, Flashbang Fatbottom, Edgeworth, and Benito From cuttlefisharts at comcast.net Thu Jul 9 13:00:18 2009 From: cuttlefisharts at comcast.net (Cuttlefish Arts) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:00:18 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Spooky and diarrhoea In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm glad Spooky is doing better! I just want to throw this out there: What I've come to understand from exotic vets over the years is that diarrhea in GPs is quite different from the situation in humans. In humans, we are trying to stop the gut from moving. In guinea pigs, stopping the gut from moving is exactly what we don't want, so isn't administering a human anti-diarrhea medicine not what we would want to do? They are herbivores with a gut kind of like a cow or sheep -- so isn't intestinal stasis actually dangerous? I'm just curious, because I was surprised to see that in the letters from Ann Evans referencing the CCT and from warmbreath. I know that serious diarrhea needs to be treated by a vet -- it can kill within 24 hours. If taking away all veggies doesn't turn around the situation within a few hours, you have a problem that could be caused by bacteria, fungus and be big time enteritis. And, probiotics are a great idea; I'm surprised that being with another GP hasn't IMPROVED Spooky's intestinal health, since they cross contaminate each other with "good" bacteria. Hopefully it was just a simple transient illness and he's on the mend. Anyway, just wanted to find out more about GP intestinal ailments. Thanks Victoria From kirsten.mcknight at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 13:39:54 2009 From: kirsten.mcknight at gmail.com (Kirsten McKnight) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:39:54 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Candle for Debbie Message-ID: <4a562b69.11bd720a.6a15.0f83@mx.google.com> A candle was lit for Debbie by me and the CritterCrew the day she met her peace in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. I am glad you are at peace and pain free Debbie but you will be greatly missed. Thanks Jaime for trackng this. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 9 18:24:20 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Benito Message-ID: <409084.6123.qm@web80202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Jocelyn, Your dear little Benito is such a cutie:) awww? such great pic indeed!? Good luck with the introductions. We are still trying to work our Aubrey in with a set of girls. She is just not being very nice about it still.:( :(? we also tired all the "tricks" to get her to get along with a set of girls.? So keep trying.. it may take a lot of playtime dates. that is what we are trying now in hopes it works for Aubrey... Good luck little Benito:) Jean (misfits) From me at buddies.org Fri Jul 10 01:37:08 2009 From: me at buddies.org (ME) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:37:08 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] health; Spooky latest update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A05AF0C-C56F-48B7-8A3C-2DD15FBB5B39@buddies.org> One thing I've done successfully when hand-feeding is giving them dry pellets. Just take a pellet in your fingers, get it behind the incisors and gently push it as far back as you can (be careful with longer pellets ... 1/4" is a good length to start with). If you don't push it far enough, they just spit it out. It's a lot less messy and, since you're not feeding mostly water, you're more likely to see a weight gain, especially if you hand-feed several times a day. Also, since it's their regular food, it keeps their system working close to normal. Anyway, it's a good thing he's fighting the syringe ... that means he's feeling better ... but if you're giving an antibiotic, make sure he gets the full dose, even if that means giving only 0.05 ml at a time. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jul 10 06:49:21 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:49:21 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] BEHAVIOUR Big Pigs chasing Little Benito Message-ID: <8D7FD27510604F12816E79FB0F257D55@inspiron1150> Hi Jocelyn, Such lovely pigtures of little Benito. I only ever keep my boars as pairs and have never tried a trio, although my pairs live in pens side by side with other pairs or groups of sows so they all chat though the wires. I have never recommended boars be kept as trios although you have been successful in the past. So much depends upon the nature of the piggies. I, too, would keep the barrier up to protect little Benito and I know what my solution would be - adopt another boar as a friend for Benito and keep them as two pairs. Or maybe, Edgeworth and Benito could pair up on one side of the barrier, with Flashbang as a next door companion. What a dilemma. There is a little bit about trios on Barmy4Boars with links to other useful pages. http://www.susieandpigs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trios.htm Our Rodentologists, who have many piggies of their own, never keep trios of boars as there is always the worry about bullying, whereby one piggy may not get enough to eat as he is scared of the other two. There will always be a dominant piggy in any grouping although in many cases this is very subtle and only they know who is boss. Or a full blown war may break out when you are not there to separate the combatants with nasty results. I would not want to risk it. Best of luck and hugs to your piggies. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jul 10 07:47:20 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:47:20 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; Benito Message-ID: Hi Jocelyn, keep sharing the photos I love seeing Benito he is such a cutey (can we see some more of Edgeworth and Flashbang) Having only just got 2 boars myself I have no advice about how to get 3 to get along, touchwood Fugly and Spooky have been really good and taken to each other straight away although I am dreading Spooky hitting the hormonal stage which from what I understand could happen any time now. Teeth chattering is not a good sign especially if it is followed by any other aggressive behaviour, it does sound like Flashbang could be jealous. I gave my boys a bath before they met, so maybe try that and see how they get on, if there is still chattering I would be tempted to keep them seperate especially if Benito is a lot smaller than the others. Hopefully some more knowledgable piggy people will be able to give you more advice. I am still learning everyday myself, hoping at some point I will be able to relax and enjoy watching the boys instead of panicking all the time lol. Let us know how you get on and keep the photos coming. Good luck M _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jul 10 07:59:35 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:59:35 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly; glamrock piggy song Message-ID: Hi Mummy, here are the lyrics we have made up to be sung to the tune of "The Darkness I Believe in a Thing Called Love" Here are the darkness in action in case you are not familiar with the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEjA3FONBAE&feature=related Piggy Lyrics Cant explain all the foods that I wanna eaaaaaaaaaaat You would get bored and go to sleeeeeeeep Munching mmmmmm, munching wheeeeeeeek Munching mmmmmm, yum were munching wheeeeeeeek I believe in a thing called food Just listen to the rumble of my tum Theres a chance we could eat right now We can eat til the sun goes down I believe in a thing called food mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wanna munch every minute, every hour, every day As long as I have food everything is A OK Munching mmmmmmmmm, munching wheeeeeeeeek munching mmmmmmmm, yum were munching wheeeeeek Chorus Munching mmmmm, munching wheeeeeeeeek munching mmmmm, yum were were munching wheeeeeek Chorus mmmmmmmm fade away Fugly the Funky _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 08:48:23 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Candle for Debbie Message-ID: <735990.84612.qm@web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A candle was lit for Debbie in LaVista Ne. Slave Debbie will be greatly missed by all. Birdie From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 08:58:02 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Message from the MP's Message-ID: <171042.79826.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I reiceved this message from my girls: "Hi mommy, wheek have been having lots of fun. Wheek fit right in with the goth look being wheek are black and white anyway. Wheek have been busy stuffing ourselves with food at night. It's the only time wheek can really eat as much as wheek want because Guiny seems to be gaurding the stash of food durning the day. Hmmp doesn't she know that their will always be some left? Wheek want you to know that there was a really nice ceremony for Debbie here, wheek will miss her. Did our package arrive yet? Just put it in our cage so it will be there when wheek get back. Gotta run. The MP's Perky, and Pooky Birdie From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 09:05:45 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc. Busy slave Message-ID: <637909.96115.qm@web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sorry for my absence for awhile from the digest and being slow to respond about Debbie, My sister came up from Texas and we have been cleaning at our mothers. She has been here a week and a half and seems we have been busy non stop. It's amazing how much stuff one can put in a room and shut the door on. My parents moved into that house 36 yeas ago and my mother has been storing things in that room for that long. I guess that when your 85 you've earned a little payback from your children and I'm glad I still have her in my life. I've been blessed with a loving mother and just happy to have the opportunity to help her out. Birdie From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Fri Jul 10 12:14:38 2009 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:14:38 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Candle lit for Debbie Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves, Sorry I have been away for a while. I am always Sad to hear news of our piggie friends passing away. And I was especially Sad to hear about our Beloved Debbie. My candle was a little late, but I lit a candle for Debbie in Charlotte, NC. Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeps... From admin at guineapigs.org Fri Jul 10 13:11:59 2009 From: admin at guineapigs.org (admin at guineapigs.org) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:11:59 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: In Loving Memory of Debbie Jones Message-ID: <20090710131159.k514g8ee8kkc8ggs@www.guineapigs.org> We apologize for the lateness of this message. Sometimes a loss requires that one take a short time to compose themselves, so that what say can be said clearly, although it is still refracted through the tears. This is one of those times. Normally, condolences go out to one family who has lost a person or piggie, but in the case of Debbie Jones, these condolences are sent not only to her husband Pete, daughter Sarah, sister Joy, and other members of her family, both human and animal, but also to the GPDD community at large. Debbie's presence is in the very fiber of the Digest, and will always remain so. She represents the Digest at its best; her commitment to, and love of, the "Dolly Mixtures" extended to every piggie, anywhere, and she was always ready to participate in the give and take -- asking questions, offering advice -- that every day helps improve the care of our piggie friends. She also sent inspiring messages of sympathy from northwest France whenever the inevitable happened and a special being traveled to the other side. "We hope it brings you a measure of comfort to know that people all over the world are thinking of you at this sad time," she would say, and the world at that moment shrank, in the best sense and to its sweetest essence. Debbie, we are so grateful that you graced our corner of the Internet with your thoughtfulness, humor, courage, kind words, and intelligence. Although we knew you only virtually, the candles we light for you, the tears we shed for you, and the appreciation we feel for you, are lasting and real. With sadness and love, The GPDD Team From ann.evans at hintlink.com Fri Jul 10 15:50:18 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:50:18 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Imodium and Spooky Message-ID: <4A579B7A.1050000@hintlink.com> Dear Victoria, You are right that cavies have a digestive tract much like cattle and sheep. But since diarrhoea can kill very quickly Imodium can be the fastest way to stop it or at least slow it down. Then with fluid therapy and syringe feeding you have the time to do stool samples to determine the cause of the diarrhoea. Again you are right that the best probiotics are fresh droppings from a healthy cavy. Vedra Stanley-Spatcher of the CCT in her book Diagnostic Guide to Guinea Pig Problems (p.72) recommends Imodium Instants 2mg. One instant melt/day, keep to a minimum duration. She has also told me that Children's Imodium can be used, 0.8 ml given orally. A second dose can be given 8 hours latter. No more than 2 doses of children's Imodium should be given. In all cases of diarrhoea fluid therapy should be given orally or subcutaneously. By the way Oxbow's Critical Care, which contains probiotics, can be purchased from CCT. Vedra also recommends Complan original or strawberry made with boiled water that has reached room temperature can be used for syringe feeding. Peter Gurney In Piggy Potions (p.12) also recommends Imodium. He states that it is safe to give 0.4 ml day and night for three days, but stop as soon as the droppings return to normal. V.C.G. Richardson in her book the Diseases of Domestic Guinea Pigs (p.59) recommends KLN the infant anti-diarhoeal preparation containing kaolin 3-4 drops three times daily. She also states that Vetrumex, which is formulated for cattle, is a good probiotic. Dose: 0.25-0.5 of a teaspoon can be mixed with a little water and rosehip syrup and can be given daily. I always use Ribena blackcurrant juice. Best of health to Spooky and all the sick piggys. Ann and the rescued Piggys of Piggyville Tampa Florida USA From guinygirl at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 15:57:08 2009 From: guinygirl at gmail.com (Janneke) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:57:08 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [Virtual] Message-ID: Hey you lazy slave! It's me, your favorite manpig in the world; Igor! I still havent hear from you so i'm guessing you're busy with that new job thingy. Sigh.. you'd better have that fridge stocked with fresh veggies when we come back! We only tolerate this from you since you promised us that you would make more money, which would mean more veggies and gifts for us *evil grin*. Things have been quite eventfull here. (Also a bit confusing. A while ago Fugly was pinching my bum a lot. It turned out that he was just doing that to avoid trouble from his little bewitching girl) I have also been busy with saving the turtles and and have gotten into eh.. less mischief than usual. I know other pigs have reported about what i've been doing; i reall think it's nice of them that they kept you updated, because honestly; i have to admit i was a bit cross with you. So be sure to thank them! Ow btw; please remember to keep your paws crossed for slave alge. She is in surgery (probably out of it by now). I like her a lot and really hope she comes through allright. I know captain Jack and Barnacle Bill are terribly worried about her. The group here has been tighter than ever. We cried for the ones we lost and have formed an even stronger bond. Btw slave, can you keep a secret? (auntie guiny is getting kinda paranoid.. ghegheghe) We have a ghost aboard the black pearl; it's the one and only Toby the Terrific! Cool huh! I think the goth girls conjured him up when they were playing with the oujia board. Toby told me he was glad they did because he was soo looking forward to the virtual events, and haunting the ship as a ghost seemed oddly appropriate. He is eating as much veggies as he wants because he can float through walls and he rumblestruts on the deck at night. Me and Fugly formed a glamrock band. I borrowed the make-up you got from slave elizabeth. Me and fugly look so hot in our skinny pants.. yeah baby! *bbbrrrrr* Next to performing 'a thing called love'; we're also covering Queens "fat bottom girls" (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEbEMjKitA4with lyrics) aaaaah.. hey big woman you made a bad boy out of me!!! Lots of wheeks! Igor the irrisistable aka Iggy Shinola P.s. I used a glam name converter: http://humor.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=humor&cdn=entertainment&tm=33&gps=438_482_1020_552&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.angelfire.com/ny/MetalBabe/glamname.html) p.p.s. *look into my big brown innocent eyes* no your wii is not missing.. you just temorarily misplaced it.. really!! From Dukejan1 at aol.com Fri Jul 10 16:55:36 2009 From: Dukejan1 at aol.com (Dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:55:36 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Belated condolences re: Snowy Bear and Toby Message-ID: Corinne and Mieke, I'm sorry to not have responded sooner, but I did want to write you to send you my sympathies on Snowy Bear and Toby. Please accept my condolences on your heart-breaking losses. Janet **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Your Hershey Girl From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 10 20:04:09 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC.: Hershey's Pigtures Now Available (I hope) Message-ID: <572632.93727.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those of you who are curious as to what little Hershey looks like, I think I've figured out (with my kids' help) how to forward her piggie portraits. She tells me to be sure Fugly's slave gets pigtures, but I'll leave that up to them. I think she was hoping her name had come up in Fugly's correspondences home. Now that she's fully matured, we'll be setting up some new glamor shots in the near future. She was?a year?old when her most recent ones were taken. Interested piggies and their slaves can email me at: JoanHess4 at sbcglobal.net. By the way, when are those little rascals coming home, anyway? Joanie From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Jul 10 21:07:26 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:07:26 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- Mimi has a abcess? Message-ID: <20090710.180726.2021.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> I found a small bump on Mimi's butt behind her back leg. It was the same color as her skin with a little indent in the middle. It was hard & dry & about the size of a pea. No oozing or anything as far as I saw. I wonder how long it has been there. I hold her & cuddle with her every day & Saturday was the first I felt it. It wasn't hurting her. I don't think she even knows it's there. The vet touched it with a tweezers & it was a scab that fell right off & left a round mark where it was at. He said it could be a small tumor or maybe just an abscess. For now he said to apply triple antibiotic ointment to it twice a day for a week & see if that helps. If not he will have to remove the spot & have it biopsied. Anyone have any suggestions or seen this before? Please send positive thoughts & prayers her way. Thanks. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ You have a right to seek justice! Click here to find experienced lawyers across the USA. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOhjTt6sDX930s6pr9EI8ueSs6O9SQeVF68ep5MsNKxWHkqNpbS2M/ From kskosich at msn.com Sat Jul 11 00:18:37 2009 From: kskosich at msn.com (Kathryn Skosich) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:18:37 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] candle for Debbie from Colorado Message-ID: I lit a candle in Debbie's memory tonight. What a good, kind, sweet, caring woman. We were all lucky to know her through the Digest.--Kathy in Colorado From oreochockc at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 00:37:11 2009 From: oreochockc at yahoo.com (corrine sakumoto) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: please help us (re: procedure used on Snowy Bear) Message-ID: <22862.15607.qm@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> We have been trying to find anything about NOT 'cutting a piggie's penis off' under any circumstances. We've learned that this procedure is common with cats. However, we cannot find anything in regards to guinea pigs. If anyone can help us, we'd really appreciate it. We would like to bring such a document to the vet so that she won't do this EVER AGAIN. As we mentioned earlier she was gloating and so proud of herself as to what she did. We KNOW Snowy Bear suffered because she believes in 'underdosing.' She mentioned a painkiller she used after the surgery which we've never heard of plus a couple days before the surgery when she gave us baytril, the dose was 0.05 ml, not even a drop!, poor Snowy Bear became all sick again so we went back to the previous vet's antibiotic of Sulfatrim .8 ml which seemed to have made him feel better. It's obviously too late for my little baby, but if doing something like this helps even one little piggie, I'd like to try. Thanks for your help, Corrine and Michael From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Jul 11 01:12:30 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:12:30 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT- Debbie candle lighting Message-ID: <20090710.221230.9604.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Sorry I didn't get back sooner about Debbie's candle lighting. I've had alot of crap going on & now my computer doesn't want to work right. I don't know if I mentioned it before but I HATE COMPUTERS!!! Ok, now that I got that off my chest, I'd like to share my suggestion. I know many have already lit a candle for Debbie & I have compiled a list of several names & places so far. I agree with the moderators that one candle lighting per year for everyone is sufficient. We can continue to light on Peter's birthday, although since it is now for Peter, Joseph, Debbie & our passed furry friends I think we'll need a new name. I know that Debbie's husband wished to have candles lit in her memory though, so here's my suggestion: I would like to, this one time, have candles lit just for Debbie in her memory & compile a list of cities & states/countries & if you would like your name included you can do that as well. Then either a map can be made (if Audrey you would be willing to do so) or just a list can be either sent to Debbie's husband Pete on our behalf, or possibly posted on her memorial website that he set up for her. If you have already lit a candle then obviously no need to light again & if not then it's not too late to do so. If you want your city & state/country (& name if you want) on the list either e-mail me on here or send it to my personal e-mail. I think it would be a nice thing for Debbie's family to look & see all the friends she had all over the world & a nice keepsake for them. I welcome all opinions & feedback on this idea. If no one likes it, then I will scrap it, but I think it's a nice idea & want to know what everyone else thinks. BTW, if you already sent your info, no need to do it again. Thanks for listening to my idea. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmQn98nEPLwz9Nu3wi5aUrInFJlWLxStqccBKScxR4iLWSudQMg/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 15:56:44 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Mimi Message-ID: <885416.86174.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Feel better, Mimi! We're thinking of you, Honey!!! Love, Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Maci, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie Too many animals & not enough homes...Please adopt a pet! From ann.evans at hintlink.com Sat Jul 11 17:52:49 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:52:49 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Advice and help (re: procedure used on Snowy Bear) Message-ID: <4A5909B1.1010303@hintlink.com> Dear Corrine and Michael, I feel that you are doing the right thing to educate yourself so that you can educate your vet so that hopefully other piggys and people will not have to go through the terrible loss you have suffered. I have rescued hundreds of guinea pigs since 1984 and have never heard of penile amputation in the cavy. The best person to talk to is Vedra Stanley-Spatcher of the Cambridge Cavy Trust (CCT) and Guinea Pig Hospital. She has treated over 20,000 guinea pigs. She will speak to you and your vet. If you have Skype on your computer her mobile medical help line in the UK is 447721026401. I have been a member of the CCT for many years and Vedra is usually available 7 days a week and has spoken to several vets who had questions about surgical procedures. She will help non-members also. Her email is stanislinski at aol.com. The best time to call her is after 6 pm GMT. Dr. Chris Griffin of Charlotte, North Carolina http://www.griffinexotics.com will also gladly speak to your vet and fax a copy of his paper published in Exotic DVM Vol. 3.2 page 13, ?Non-surgical Removal of Urethral Stones in a Guinea Pig. You can download this issue of Exotic DVM for $5 at http://www.exoticdvm.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=magazines.showIcons& In Exotic DVM Vol. 9.3 page 17 there is a paper by Mentr?, V. ?Penile Amputation and Urethrostomy in a Rat?. This is the first time I have heard of penile amputation in a rodent. My unsolicited advice is that you should either obtain a copy of the book Anatomy of the Guinea Pig (Commonwealth Fund Publications) (Hardcover) by Gale Cooper M.D (Author), Alan L. Schiller M.D (Author), 1975 or make sure your vet has a copy of it. You can buy it used from Amazon.com. I bought mine used in 1980 from a seller of used scientific books. Knowing the anatomy of the male cavy penis, I can see no way that it would ever be necessary to amputate the penis. Another good book to have that you can buy from the CCT is Diagnostic Guide to Guinea Pig Problems by Vedra Stanley-Spatcher. She states in her book to have your vet call her before any stone operation or if your vet has any questions. You can pay for the book through PayPal. Unfortunately I just checked and the CCT and British Association of Rodentologists (BAR) web page is down http://rodentology.co.uk/. BAR also sells the book. You can order the book from Vedra, just email her or call Richard Barber of BAR at 442078703561 or email him at info at rodentology.co.uk. Best of Luck, Ann and the Rescued Piggys of Piggyville Tampa Florida USA From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 11 18:41:06 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC.: bunny stasis Message-ID: <263333.85098.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It looks like my nine-year-old bunny's got GI stasis again--the third time in a year. Each time, my vet gives me subcutaneous fluids, antibiotics, and gut motility drugs for her and has me give her simethicone. We just spent five hundred dollars on my cat's abcess, and can't afford another three hundred for the Bun, only to have her sick again in four months. I'm trying to be rational here. She doesn't like anyone, so food's her only pleasure, and now she's refusing to eat, as she always does with stasis. Euthanasia seems to be the only logical solution, given the pain of stasis and its frequent recurrence in spite of a diet of timothy hay, veggies, fresh, cleaned grass from our pasture, and a small bit of pellets. I feel as if I've failed her emotionally as well as physically. I don't think she's a people bun. At least she never met a person she felt good about. I tried her with a bunny friend or two, but, inspite of our many precautions,?she was aggressive and I was too stressed out watching fur fly. I could have her put to sleep now and never know if she might've recovered on her own. I could wait 'til tomorrow morning and torment myself all night, wondering if she's in pain. I could put her through another couple weeks' painful treatment (funds permitting) only to have to repeat it in a couple months. Please pray The Bun lets me know what she wants me to do. Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 12 01:36:14 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: The Bun Message-ID: <31512.74773.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I gave?Bun some simethicone for gas and got her to eat a bit of Critical Care and Oxbow hay. All is not lost. Keep them prayers a'comin.' Joanie From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Sun Jul 12 11:05:26 2009 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:05:26 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: Pirate adventure Message-ID: Hello, everybody. It's The Surrey Squeakers here and we are not best pleased. We have just found out that our pals are enjoying an exciting pirate adventure and we knew nothing about it. Our slave (who is a school teacher in her spare time from looking after us) came up with the feeblest excuse ever. She says she was too busy marking 200 exam papers and writing 200 reports to send us! Now that she's on holiday and all relaxed, she calmly tells us that we've missed out. Are we too late to join in? If not, where do we go? Where are you all at the moment? Hoping for a favourable reply from the high seas....... The Surrey Squeakers, land-locked in deepest Surrey _________________________________________________________________ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ From ann.evans at hintlink.com Sun Jul 12 12:01:31 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:01:31 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Penile Amputation per Vedra Stanley-Spatcher Message-ID: <4A5A08DB.9030600@hintlink.com> Penile Amputation Sunday morning 12 June 2009 3:30 GMT I just spook to Vedra Stanley-Spatcher of the Cambridge Cavy Trust (CCT) and Guinea Pig Hospital. In her 40 years of surgical experience on cavies she has never heard of a case of penile amputation. This is the procedure she uses: Rimadyl for pain 10 mg injection 30 minutes pre-op. This would be 0.2 ml injection if using 50 mg/ml Rimadyl solution. Anesthesia with isoflurane, 3.0% induction, 1.0-2.0% maintenance. She inserts a lubricated Jackson cat catheter into the male urethra and pushes the stone back into the bladder. If the stone has somehow adhered to the urethra she attaches a syringe containing Ringer's solution and flushes the stone into the bladder. It is much easier to remove the stone from the bladder. Only a small incision is needed. Suture with Vicryl 3-0. Turn off isoflurane; flush with oxygen and the patient should be wide-awake and eating within 15 minutes. Rimadyl 10 mg can be given orally (PO) 8 hours after surgery. For the next 3 days Rimadyl PO 10 mg q12h. Also Septrim antibiotic = Pediatric Bactrim PO 0.5 ml q12h for 7-10 days. Septrim = Sulfamethoxazole 200 mg and Trimethoprim 40 mg in 5 ml. Vedra also told me that the website should be up in a week. She stressed that you should have your vet call her before doing any surgery that the vet does not have experience in doing. Or if the vet just has a question. The mobile medical help line is 44 (country code) 7721026401 (cell phone. Geocites the website provider went out of business. The Down Under Tour was canceled due to transportation problems. My advice to all slaves everywhere is to join the CCT. It is only 25 British Pounds/year no matter how many piggys you have and you get unlimited phone consultations. If you can travel to the CCT you get free worming every three months for all your cavies. The CCT also provides nail clippings and dental treatment and is open 7 days a week. It is also a full service state of the art hospital. When the website is up you will see where you can pay by PayPal. Cheers, Ann and the Rescued Piggys of Piggyville Tampa Florida USA From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 12 13:37:12 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: The Bun rallies Message-ID: <117881.58386.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bun's eating normally, pooping profusely, begging for treats (I'm being stingy with them right now). Her respiration rate appears to be normal, as is her activity level. Thanks so much to everyone who expressed their caring in prayers and healing thoughts! We were able to dose her with simethicone last night, and she ate a wee bit of Critical Care from a custard cup, but I think it was love that pulled her through. Joanie From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jul 12 14:22:17 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:22:17 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH The Bun Message-ID: <2820DC24D5FA45529349597B66F84F50@inspiron1150> Well done Joanie for saving The Bun yet again. I once had a piggy with terrible gastric troubles and many was the time that I thought that I was about to lose him, only for a dose of metaclopramide to save the day. I won't offer hugs for The Bun as I know she doesn't like hugs but you might like one instead. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From mfug at live.co.uk Sun Jul 12 14:37:49 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:37:49 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Healing Thoughts Message-ID: We are sending healing thoughts to our friends Mimi and the Bun Love M, Fugly and Spooky From rzm.2 at juno.com Sun Jul 12 19:54:09 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:54:09 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- gut stasis Message-ID: <20090712.165409.24466.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Joanie- I'm sorry to hear about your bunny. I hope everything works out for the best. I know it's a horrible decision to have to make. Please know you're in my thoughts & prayers. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Self-storage Facility Storage for Personal or Commercial Use. Get Your First Month Free. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=6t-Mwnb9Gc43TmmgAr9NbQAAJ1DiI6TBn7f0PnFTVU4r_S72AAUAAAAAAAAAAMP1aD5bMLgzTJii_XilNcfDRICyAAAAAA== From cmartinez36 at comcast.net Sun Jul 12 23:10:39 2009 From: cmartinez36 at comcast.net (cmartinez36 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Candle for Debbie in Houston, TX In-Reply-To: <1667640456.767341247454186494.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <351841864.770261247454639396.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Please add my name to the list of people whose lives Debbie Jones touched on the GPDD. I've been out of touch, but have many vivid impressions of her and the romantic names she gave her precious Dolly Mixtures. She was very kind and loving, and I always enjoyed her posts. We have lit a candle for?Debbie in Houston, Texas. Carla, Apache and Remy, <3with Snickers and Snowball at the Bridge<3 From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 13 00:13:43 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: The Bun continues to improve Message-ID: <691283.56543.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Normal droppings, respiration rate, activity, hay consumption--The Bun is back to her cantankerous self! It's never felt better to have somebunny be rude to me. Yay! Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 13 00:20:21 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC.: Hershey's pigtures have disappeared Message-ID: <109415.21589.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Computers and I DON'T mix!!!! I accidentally dumped my best pigtures of Hersh while trying to email them. I hope i\I still have them on disk. Grrrr! Needless to say, I'll have to put the project on hold againl Sorry! Has anyone heard from the pirate pigship? Hershey's not been keeping in touch. I hope she's not gotten in any more trouble with that sword she's been practicing with. Joanie From piggyfriends at tesco.net Mon Jul 13 04:25:04 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:25:04 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Hershey's pigtures Message-ID: <452003FE4CAE404A83A4E2AD90FBE79A@inspiron1150> Joanie, I have saved the pigtures of Hershey that you so kindly sent me so if you have lost your set I can replace them for you. You should be able to retrieve yours from the recycle bin. Great news about The Bun. Penny and thePiggyfriends. From mfug at live.co.uk Mon Jul 13 07:28:47 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:28:47 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly; message from Fugly Message-ID: Hey Mummy, my new glam rock name is Mikey Heaven how cool is that. The girls really seem to love my food song, they are not so sure about Igors Fat Bottom song, although the LAPS pigs like me really enjoy it!! We have just heard that the Surrey Squeakers are on their way to join us!! I have no idea where we are but apparently PigAir have been keeping a close eye on the "Pearl" and know exactly where to bring them. Byeeeeeeeeee Mikey Heaven _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Mon Jul 13 13:40:55 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:40:55 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH]: BG with breathing problems, please help. Message-ID: Dear all I am really not sure what is going on with BG. Can anyone advise if they have had a similar experience? Symptoms (since mid-May this year): Runny right nostril -- NOT left, just right nostril. Right nostril has discharge which is clear to pale cream, NOT yellow or green. The inside of the nostril is inflammed now, and so there is a little watery blood in discharge, but not thick 100% blood. Both eyes watery, then crusty (I am keeping area clean). Breathing is quicker than is usual fro him, but I am assuming this is because one nostril is not so easy to breathe through. Breathing through mouth a little now, too. Appetite ok. Independent ear twitching. Some teeth grinding. He has been seen by 4 separate people now. 2 rodentologists, one vet/rodentologist and a regular vet. All have said his lungs are clear and is heart is fine. Some are suggesting hay fever or allergic rhinitis. He was given Baytril but I had to stop as his stomach was getting gurgly (even though on pro-biotics). I feel he is getting a little worse. Vedra has checked his teeth and says they are fine. He has Vick vapour rub to help with breathing and Biscopan to help with mucus. I have searched the internet over for guinea pigs and allergies but it's nearly all about people being allergic to gp's, rather than what gp allgeries are. Has anyone ever experienced this with their gp's? Please let me know, as I am getting so worried about BG. Thank you Carole From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 13 18:33:19 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Bun Message-ID: <65599.55706.qm@web80202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So glad that Bun is doing better. My daughter has a spoiled Bunny that is her "baby". Bunnys sure have some cute personalities. Her bunny is very large! but a sweet heat. Take care Little Bun:) Jean (misfits) From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 12:12:56 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: BG Message-ID: <687271.88582.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Carole: I don't know what it could be, but I just wanted you to know that I'm thinking of you and sweet BG. Joanne and the Happy Herd of 6 Too many animals & not enough homes...Please adopt a pet! From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 12:15:32 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health Message-ID: <573728.54187.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Friends: Remember I took my MACIE to the small animal specialist because she lost weight? The vet didn't find one single thing wrong with her, including checking for parasites in her poop. However, MACIE is still losing weight. I picked her up last night and she felt bony to me. Yet, she is acting normally and eating well. Do guinea pigs get cancer? I know that something is not right but yet she checked out fine. Any ideas? Thanks. I'd appreciate some detective work here. Joanne and her Happy Herd of Six Too many animals & not enough homes...Please adopt a pet! From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 14 12:29:43 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: BG's nasal discharge Message-ID: <806753.8733.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did the vet check for hay that might have?made its way up his nostril? That would account for the discharge only being on one side. Given?a piggy's?diet, it wouldn't be a surprise for that to happen. Wishing BG the best and the vets, wisdom and compassion. Joanie From bunsnpigs at aol.com Tue Jul 14 12:50:01 2009 From: bunsnpigs at aol.com (bunsnpigs at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:50:01 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: BG With Breathing Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CBD2BA43880037-CEC-13DC@WEBMAIL-MB14.sysops.aol.com> Carole, guinea pigs (like most mammals) are obligate nasal breathers meaning they don't breathe through their mouths unless absolutely necessary and it almost always means they are having some respiratory issues. Whenever we have had problems with bunnies or guinea pigs who couldn't breathe due to a blockage and there was no sign of lung respiratory distress, we gave them antibacterial opthalmic drops into their little noses. They hate it, but it usually helps. You have to kind of hold their heads upward?so it goes in and doesn't dribble out. Another thing that also helped was a nasal mist that was just sterile saline to moisten everything up there. Poor baby. Judi L. From cuttlefisharts at comcast.net Tue Jul 14 13:40:37 2009 From: cuttlefisharts at comcast.net (Cuttlefish Arts) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:40:37 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH]: BG with breathing problems, please help. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carole, What kind of bedding are you keeping BG on? Try swapping that out with something really benign (like towels instead of bedding) just to see if it's causing a problem. I've had GPs that are sensitive to some bedding. vic From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Tue Jul 14 14:00:17 2009 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:00:17 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: Pirate adventure Message-ID: Hello everybody, it's The Surrey Squeakers here and today we caught a mystery PigAir flight to join you on your pirate adventure. They wouldn't tell us the precise destination but the pilot knew where we had to go. We will check our Garmins to see where we are when we arrive! Tequila is obviously taking our participation very seriously. She came down the ramp for breakfast veggies yesterday with one back leg at a funny angle and was limping around the pen. We told her she can have the part of Long John Silver without such a performance and she was only half limping by the time we left. (Slave could see nothing wrong with foot). See you soon! _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From lsdmg at hotmail.com Tue Jul 14 16:23:17 2009 From: lsdmg at hotmail.com (Donna Grant) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:23:17 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT Abby turns 5 and I have new guinea Message-ID: Hey everyone, Firstly I'd like to apologise for my lack of posting over the last few months. Work has just been too crazy and I've barely had time to keep up with all the postings - this mailing list is so popular! The reason for my posting is firstly to announce that my little lady Abby turned the grand old age of 5 in May and I brought her home 5 years ago yesterday. You wouldn't think she was an aging piggy the way she tears about the place head butting anything in sight. I got Abby from a pet shop along with her friend Helga who sadly died last year. Abby would be Helga's slave fetching her food as she was too lazy to move. Abby got a new lease of life after Helga went as she could enjoy her life for herself if you know what I mean. After a while though it was obvious she wanted some company and after an unsuccessful bonding attempt with Marmite and Jessica... Abby has a new friend in the form of a neutered boar called Rex who is of course is a rex! The pair get on OK - they are not best friends yet but they love to play together and chase each other about the place. They don't snuggle or anything but Rex definately has a soft spot for Abby because he pines after her if she is more than a couple of metres away. I adopted Rex from a rescue as he had been put in boarding whilst the owners were on holiday and then decided they no longer wanted him on their return. He is about 1 years old and loves to live life loud! Very confident and I suspect he had a good life before me which I find odd. Maybe the novelty wore off... I'll make more of an effort to catch up from now on :) Donna, Abby, Rex, Marmite and Jessica. _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jul 14 18:01:39 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:01:39 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH BG's breathing problems Message-ID: Carole, With all the professional help that BG has received I am sure that someone has already suggested this but have you tried menthol crystals to help with his breathing? My Cadbury is prone to snuffles, in only one nostril, but it can be severe enough to stop him being able to eat properly when it happens. Last time he suffered this, he had Sudafed, Nurofen and Bisolvon twice daily plus the menthol crystal as an inhalant. He also had Baytril dripped up his nostrils and the nasal passages massaged to clear the mucus. Luckily this does not upset his stomach. I am sure that you know about this but the remedy is a piece broken from a crystal dissolved in very hot water in a small container. I use a baby food jar for this. Hold the jar right under piggy's nose and let him breathe in the vapour. I find it very strong but piggies seem to like it. This was suggested to me some time ago by our Rodentologists, whom I know that you have consulted. I cannot offer any suggestions regarding an allergy. Hugs for BG. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From rzm.2 at juno.com Tue Jul 14 19:39:57 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:39:57 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- BG Message-ID: <20090714.163957.21574.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Carole- I'm sorry I have no suggestions about BG other then it sounds like a URI, but I'm sure somebody probably suggested that already. Can piggies take Benedryl? Maybe if it truly is allergies something like that would help. Of course I would check with Vedra first to see if they can even have it & what the dose would be. Could he have an abscess up in there somewhere that is causing a blockage? Just throwing out ideas here. Hope he feels better really soon! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Visit the City of Brotherly Love! Click now for great vacation packages to Philadelphia! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMwIEXQ3IgldVmUWdaRrdLaRpU5XiSIpcQUzLW7YKpdBQtEr7BtKY/ From me at buddies.org Wed Jul 15 00:53:13 2009 From: me at buddies.org (ME) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:53:13 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Health In-Reply-To: <573728.54187.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <573728.54187.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <292DCD70-7109-4AEB-B6C4-433271D98B47@buddies.org> I must have missed your first post. How old is Macie? How much has she lost? I've had a few pigs who started losing weight around the age of three ... all tests came back normal. We never did find out what was wrong with them and necropsies were inconclusive. Although it wasn't a cure, I hand fed the pigs. It was a time for us to bond and they knew I was trying to help them. I hand feed at the first sign of trouble as I'm convinced it has saved a few pigs ... and if you wait, you risk them becoming too weak to overcome illness. Pigs can have cancers ... I've had a few. But none of them had weight loss. On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:15 AM, dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com wrote: > Hi Friends: > Remember I took my MACIE to the small animal specialist because she > lost weight? > The vet didn't find one single thing wrong with her, including > checking for parasites > in her poop. > However, MACIE is still losing weight. I picked her up last night > and she felt bony > to me. Yet, she is acting normally and eating well. > Do guinea pigs get cancer? I know that something is not right but > yet she checked > out fine. > Any ideas? > Thanks. I'd appreciate some detective work here. > Joanne > and her Happy Herd of Six From juwles at bigpond.com Wed Jul 15 06:56:38 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:56:38 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH]: Breathing problems in BG - best of luck Carole In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Carole I was going to suggest that there was something wrong with his teeth, because I've heard/read that teething problems can show up in the eyes/nostrils. But you've been to the expert Vedra so that's obviously not the case. I'm so sorry I can't think of a thing to help you - you are doing everything right. Especially with the Vicks. Maybe it might be just a matter of time, keeping on using Vicks, etc. and then in a few weeks he'll be well again. Perhaps his immune system is just a little slow in healing itself. One thought - what about loading him up with vitamin C, either in parsley or oranges, mandarins, vit C supplements (for babies) - and maybe sit with him in the sun for about 10 minutes each day, I think that the Vitamin D helps other vitamins to be absorbed. I am sending my prayers and best wishes to you for BG's recovery - and I pray that is very soon. Keep up your good work on behalf of your gorgeous master, Healing Wheeks, squeaks & cuddles, Julie and her herd of 9 boys {remembering my darlings - Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart and soul - desperately & despairingly missed) From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Jul 15 07:41:48 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:41:48 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Happy Birthday and welcome Message-ID: <09DEBC79B2C4436AB65EDF1DA625802A@inspiron1150> Donna, The Piggyfriends and I would like to wish Abby a very happy 5th. birthday. My Roscoe and Gingerbread say "Welcome to the SCAMPS". How sad that Rex's family never collected him after their holiday but lucky for you and Abby that she has a new friend with whom to play. Welcome to the GPDD Rex. Hugs to all the piggies. Penny. From elizabethlakin at hotmail.com Wed Jul 15 12:19:35 2009 From: elizabethlakin at hotmail.com (elizabeth lakin) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:19:35 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc - Birthday Message-ID: Hello there piggie pals, Happy birthday to Abbey! My grand old Edna is also 5 today! Whee are celebrating with a 'grow your own hay' kit from the hay expert (although I think I will be doing the growing and Edna the eating). I am just a bit sad that she is the onlt one of my original three girls to reach this age (and still looking lovely). Happy Birthday Edna! Elizabeth, Edna, Weasel and Badger. In Mem the Moog and Mavis _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From calliope at geeksnet.com Wed Jul 15 13:27:10 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:27:10 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday and adoption day wishes, Abby Message-ID: <4A5E116E.5040705@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish Abby a very Happy 5th Birthday and Adoption Day! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From joedee1986 at verizon.net Wed Jul 15 14:35:16 2009 From: joedee1986 at verizon.net (Dee and Joe) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Jodie and Shipwreck Sam Message-ID: <409858.15249.qm@web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jodie and Shipwreck Sam are sitting up in the crows nest after a beautiful day of sailing.? They talk about the great Fourth of July celebration they had and other things, avoiding what is most on their minds.? Their relationship.? What strikes fear in a man's heart more than his woman wanting to talk about their relationship! He comments on her goth makeup and how it accents her beautiful eyes.? He tries to steal a kiss without getting poked in the eye by her spike collar.? The chains around her waist rattle loudly, but he does admire her black stiletto heels. She thinks he looks very cute in his open neck shirt and glam makeup.? The long hair wig and guitar make him very dashing.? He seems to be limping a little from all the slides across the floor while singing songs about love.? She looks at the ring on her paw and sighs.? She understands how her slaves feel and is a little bit glad to have to wait to marry Shipwreck Sam.? It was kind of scary to think about sometimes.? She holds Sam's paw and tells him this and he holds her paw tightly. Sam listens to Jodie and agrees to wait until they know each other better.? Marrying so soon scared him a little too, but he wouldn't admit it. He knows they will see each other at other events, and keep in touch with their Blackberrys.? He eats another grape and says it is time to go.? There is much to do tomorrow.? The Surrey Squeakers are arriving and the memorial ceremony is coming up.? The turtles are getting ready to make their journey back across the sea so there will be a farewell for them. Jodie packs up their supper basket and Sam helps her down from the crow's nest.? They see a lovely shooting star travel across the darkening sky.? They purr together and rub noses.? He walks her to her room and kisses her softly on the cheek, watching out for the spikes.? "Do you girls plan to wear goth for long?" he asks. "No, silly boy", she says, "I rather fancy the pirate wench look???We sows are going shopping at the next port for new costumes.? You are gonna love the puffy sleeve blouses and swirly skirts with boots.? Check out this picture on your Blackberry." http://www.buycostumes.com/pirate_costume.aspx Jodie and Sam go to their rooms and stay up late talking to their friends about the day and the good times to come.? The sows are excited about the wench costumes and plan to loot the ship's hold for jewels to wear.? They hope the boars go back to their pirate look, too.? Soon they all fall asleep, rocking to the sea in their hammocks and cozies.? All except for Barnacle Bill and Igor keeping watch on deck. Shhhhhhhh.? Piggies sleeping. Dee From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jul 15 19:47:45 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:47:45 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- cancer in piggies Message-ID: <20090715.164745.9029.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Joanne- The vet is concerned Mimi's bump could be a tumor (God forbid) so I guess piggies can get cancer. How old is Macie? I always heard piggies start to lose body mass as they age. Sorry I don't have any other ideas. Hope she will be ok. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jul 15 19:54:27 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:54:27 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- BG Message-ID: <20090715.165427.9029.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Carole- Joanie's suggestion of hay getting up there is a good idea. I never would have thought of that. Maybe you should have your vet check for that. You never know! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Get Organized! Latest in Closet Organizers. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKzqbR447ijetrLvyJ54zP2crRn37qM4qrtHXxcFwSjy4mV8CwReY/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 21:54:06 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Macie Message-ID: <137141.45773.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Macie is 2 1/2 years old and has gone from 2 lbs. 3 oz to 1 lb. 9 oz. She doesn't look "right" and the vet can't figure it out. She is still eating well, though. I just don't know what else to do. Thanks all. Joanne Spicy, Merri, Maci, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie Too many animals & not enough homes...Please adopt a pet! From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 23:48:32 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Lady Bug Message-ID: <179372.41744.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all, Joan sent me the following email about Lady Bug. I thought I would pass it along ( with her permission of course) to the rest of the group know. Lady Bug was a favorite of many of us. ? Just wanted to let you know I lost Lady Bug today.? She was 7 years 1 month to the day old. ? She is buried in my garden next to a fragrant rose bush and between her beloved parsley and almost as beloved mint. ? She had a good, very spoiled, life. ? Joan Birdie From me at buddies.org Thu Jul 16 02:34:19 2009 From: me at buddies.org (ME) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Macie In-Reply-To: <137141.45773.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <137141.45773.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately, that sounds like what I've experienced. Hand feeding will keep them around a bit longer (several months to a couple years), but that requires a commitment of daily feedings. Since she's already lost about 30% of her body weight, it would take many feedings to get her back up (I've done as many as 8 feedings every two hours to try to get one to gain weight ... as long as they're eating some, 3-4 feedings daily will often maintain weight). After years of syringe feeding, I've found the best way to hand-feed is to just use their usual dry pellets. It's not as messy and they generally eat more. I take one in my fingers and get it past the incisors and gently shove it into the back of the mouth. At first, only use pellets that are at most 1/4" long until you get the hang of it. You need to get the piece far back in the mouth or they spit it out. They will tell you how much water they need, but I generally give 0.2 ml after 5-10 pellets. On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:54 PM, dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com wrote: > Macie is 2 1/2 years old and has gone from 2 lbs. 3 oz to 1 lb. 9 oz. > She doesn't look "right" and the vet can't figure it out. She is > still > eating well, though. I just don't know what else to do. > Thanks all. > Joanne > Spicy, Merri, Maci, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie From mfug at live.co.uk Thu Jul 16 02:59:58 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:59:58 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Spooky Message-ID: Well I am glad to tell you that Spooky has now regained all the weight he lost when he was ill + an extra 8g, so I will now go back to weighing him weekly instead of daily. I have been superstitious about him gaining the weight again before sharing the photos of him and Fugly "mowing" the grass, so here they are http://undercoverguineapig.wordpress.com/ We have reintroduced carrot, cucumber, celery and pepper to his diet and there has been no problem, I am convinced the grass was the problem. A quick question for you all, will Spooky be able to go back to eating grass? How do I introduce him slowly? I really hope he can as Fugly loves grass and it would be sad for him to be outside alone and Spooky inside alone, all ideas welcomed. Thanks M From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jul 16 04:33:43 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:33:43 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Lady Bug Message-ID: <04C904D4636A4A36A4C243B07F1C4A54@inspiron1150> Birdie, Will you please convey to Joan my condolences on the loss of Lady Bug. She was a wonderful piggy and I have many, many pigtures of her to remember her by. I thought of her as an honorary Piggyfriend and enjoyed the virtual adventures in which she participated, especially when she came "camping" in our garden. I am so pleased that she made it to the exceptional age of seven, despite her heart condition. Not many piggies make it that far, even those as loved and pampered as Lady Bug. I am sure that Joan will miss her company very much. I miss Joan's contributions to the Digest and the many chats that we had and I hope that she is OK. R.I.P. Lady Bug, a very special lady. Gone to meet her best friend, Duke, at the Rainbow Bridge. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jul 16 04:59:37 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:59:37 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Macie Message-ID: <9026F1E1C04C460BA9446D1321AEC055@inspiron1150> I am so sorry that Macie is still having problems with her weight. I have only seen this in older piggies, who can lose muscle tone as they age and thereby lose weight but Macie is only a youngster. My Diamond lost a lot of weight in her last year without any apparent reason but she was 6 years old. She continued to eat well to her last day. I agree that hand feeding could help. It is time consuming but, as long as Macie doesn't resist you trying to help her, can be very worthwhile. Some piggies that I have had to syringe feed have been very eager to take the mixture and each feeding only took a few minutes but it has to be continued throughtout the day. I can take such piggies to work with me and feed them during a coffee break. If she will let you feed her pellets as ME suggested you might be able to put some weight back on her but I do not know why this is happening. I have lost piggies to cancer but they have not suffered any accompanying weight loss. My Guinness had a tumour but was the heaviest piggy that I have ever cared for. I recall our Rodentologists struggling to put weight on our Debbie's Scoot when he was staying at their hospital. He was taken there as Debbie suspected that a tooth problem was causing him not to thrive but this turned out not to be the case and they never did discover why his weight had dropped so low. If anyone can solve this mystery it will be of benefit to all piggykind. Love to Macie, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From ann.evans at hintlink.com Thu Jul 16 11:20:57 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:20:57 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] MACIE Message-ID: <4A5F4559.9030604@hintlink.com> Dear Joanne, Yes guinea pigs do get cancer but it is rare. I do not know how old Macie is or how much she weighs, but I think you wrote that her teeth have been checked and they are fine. I would be more inclined to think that Macie has internal parasites even though the test was negative. Parasites can invade the wall of the gut and invade the liver, pancreas and lungs. Therefore, these parasites would not show up in a fecal test. Parasites release toxins and carry bacteria that interfere in the guts ability to process and absorb nutrients. When was the last time she was wormed? I have treated many cavies that were constantly loosing weight yet they did not have any teeth problems, infections or signs of parasites. I would immediately give Macie orally 0.4 ml 2.5% Panacur = fenbendazole or 0.4 ml 2.5% Valbazen = albendazole. The dose is based on metabolic rate not on body weight and is 10 mg of either of these drugs for 5 days. I would also give her orally 0.1 ml of 1.0% Ivermectin. This will cover the internal parasite spectrum. I believe you live in the UK or Europe. Peter Gurney also recommends Metatone tonic, which I always have on hand for my cavies. The dose is orally 0.5 ml per day for a week and then 0.3 ml per day for another week. Best of health to Macie. Ann and the Rescued Piggys of Piggyville Tampa Florida USA From kirsten.mcknight at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:34:40 2009 From: kirsten.mcknight at gmail.com (Kirsten McKnight) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:34:40 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Lady Bug Message-ID: Please pass on my condolences to Joan for the loss of her grand dame Lady Bug. Lady Bug was definitely a very special piggy and her long life is a testimony to Joan's care and love for her. I have many fond memories of virtual stories involving Lady Bug. Lady Bug may you enjoy your time over the bridge knowing that there are lots of friends waiting to greet you and make you welcome.There are many who will miss you here not the least your Joan. hugs and wheeks from Kirsten and the Critter Crew From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jul 16 19:43:06 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:43:06 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- birthdays & welcomes Message-ID: <20090716.164306.25304.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Happy 5th birthday to Abby & welcome to the digest Rex!!! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your dream car or truck. 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What a happy occasion! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Foreign Currency Find Foreign Currency Trading Software Compare Prices And Save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=O5BgA735x16iBTPpoc7OTQAAJ1DiI6TBn7f0PnFTVU4r_S72AAUAAAAAAAAAAHiXCz6_8Lu58P74tlOqNFHasownAAAAAA== From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jul 16 20:11:30 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:11:30 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090716.171130.25304.2@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Joan- I'm sorry to hear LadyBug has gone to the bridge. She was much loved here on the digest. I'm glad she had a long & happy life with you. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Find the perfect photo - click now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEuJFQf1a59siQ2q0mg1fj5zWBDIanU8o1yTDKlf5sxL3LHHHkao4/ From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 16 22:00:12 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Lady Bug Message-ID: <159797.44478.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was really sorry to hear about her passing. I'm sure she's left some cherished memories to bless her slaves with. May those remembrances warm?their hearts in this difficult transition. Joanie From dganley at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jul 17 01:01:39 2009 From: dganley at tampabay.rr.com (deb ganley) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:01:39 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] GPDD--Health Message-ID: <3F3553297CD94F2FAF498392BDB1B176@deb> We've been thru the mill with Molly for the past 3 weeks. I took all 4 girls in for manicures as usual on 6/23 (I'm too much of a chicken to do it myself, & for $5 per pig to get their nails trimmed, I'm there.) Molly (my 5 1/2 year old piggie) has had malocclusions for the past year or so, so I always have my vet check her teeth for overgrowth. Sure enough, she needed another toofy trim, plus my Little Girl, Lily, had a cyst on her jaw. I left them for an hour or so for both procedures to be done, & brought them home. Lily has been fine but Molly slowed down on her eating after that. Molly was still eating at this point. I brought her back to the vet a week later when she slowed down on the eating even more & he found an ovarian cyst that he drained--filled up a test tube the size of our pinkies. The vet said that'd fix Molly right up, the cyst was what was causing her slowing up on the eating. Nope--I was convinced that Molly's eating problems were due to toofy problems, Dana gave me the name of a vet in Tampa for a second opinion since Molly stopped eating. I brought Molly on 7/6, Dana is such a wonderful friend, she met me at the vet for moral support--he took Xrays, couldn't get blood work from her since Molly was dehydrated--the Xrays came back negative, but no teeth problems were DX'd by the Xrays or by Dr. Helmer looking in her mouth while Molly was under anesthesia. Very long story short, I've been syringing baby food veggies into Molly for almost 2 weeks, mixed with Critical Care--her lab work, after a week of CC syringing & the vet was able to get a blood sample, came back essentially negative, the vet is assuming Molly is in renal failure. Donna Landes hooked me up with Tex, who suggested Nux Vomica (a homeopathic anti-nausea product) since renal failure pigs might be nauseated & that'd put them off their food. Donna was the one who suggested the baby food veggies & that's worked very well--Molly likes carrots, applesauce & green beans so far. I'm so blessed to have Dana, Donna & Tex in our corner--at this point, we still really don't know what the true story is with Molly--the vet called to find out how she was doing & when I told him she was eating baby food & occasional cantelope, he back-tracked & said she might have just had a bladder infection ( BTW, she's been on antibiotics for the past 2 weeks--forgot to mention that.) We're just playing it day by day--my daughter thinks Molly is gaining weight, I'm not sure. I'm going to buy a scale this weekend & see for sure--Molly went from 2# 6oz to 1 lb, 9 oz in 3 weeks, it's pretty scary. If anyone has an idea, I'd appreciate any input--Molly is loving her baby food/ CC mixture, she's drinking well with Tex's Nux Vomica remedy & she loves her antibiotics since they're flavored with cherry flavoring--I'd just really like to see her back on her usual pellets, hay & salads. She nibbles on them, but hasn't gotten back to normal in 3 weeks of meds & syringing. Thanks! Deb, Molly, Emma, Lily & Winnie (& Potter, always in our hearts) From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jul 17 04:26:19 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:26:19 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Happy Birthday Edna Message-ID: Elizabeth, We would like to wish Edna a very happy 5th. birthday and Gingerbread and Roscoe say " Welcome to the SCAMPS ". Growing your own hay sounds like a great idea. Hope it goes well. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From guinygirl at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 05:50:50 2009 From: guinygirl at gmail.com (Janneke) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:50:50 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Message-ID: Dear Edna, It's me Igor! I would like to wish you a very happy birthday and congratulations for reaching SCAMPS-age. I'm very impressed that you've gotten your slave to grow your own hay. But Mavis always told me you were a clever pig, so i'm not surprised. Lots of birthday wheeks! Igor P.s. Ofcourse you look lovely, us curly pigs always do ;-) From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Fri Jul 17 07:17:48 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:17:48 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOINCEMENT]: Joan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Joan I am so very sorry to hear you lost Lady Bug. She was so famous on the Digest, I feel as though I personally knew her along with all the other readers. She was deeply cared for and loved totally. There's no better recipe for a happy and much-loved guinea pig than that. I'm thinking of you. Kind regards Carole From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Fri Jul 17 07:18:24 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:18:24 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOINCEMENT]: Joan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Joan I am so very sorry to hear you lost Lady Bug. She was so famous on the Digest, I feel as though I personally knew her along with all the other readers. She was deeply cared for and loved totally. There's no better recipe for a happy and much-loved guinea pig than that. I'm thinking of you. Kind regards Carole From calliope at geeksnet.com Fri Jul 17 13:39:33 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:39:33 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Edna Message-ID: <4A60B755.6080305@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish Edna a very Happy 5th Birthday! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jul 17 13:41:36 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:41:36 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] announcements; Celebrations Message-ID: We would like to wish Edna and Abby very happy 5th birthdays and we look forward to hearing all about them on the SCAMP's site. It sounds like their slaves have spoiled them rotten as they should!! A big welcome to Rex, the boys always like meeting new boar friends. M, Fugly + Spooky From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jul 17 13:42:38 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:42:38 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Molly Message-ID: Sorry Deb, I have no ideas for you about Molly we just send our love and thoughts and hope she gets better soon. M, Fugly + Spooky From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jul 17 13:46:47 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:46:47 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Lady Bug Message-ID: I cant believe that Lady Bug is no longer with us, she was such a character and I treasure the photos I have off her. Fugly will miss her and her cane at virtual events and the way she kept him under control. Joan your heart must be broken so we are sending you all our love Run free Lady Bug reunited with your love Duke M, Fugly + Spooky From Algernon07 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 14:14:50 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:14:50 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Bridge; The Lady Bug Message-ID: I am so sorry to read of the Lady Bug's going to the Bridge. It is a terrible loss and I can only offer sympathy. She was such a famous and delightful "Lady" pig with her stick ever ready to whack (or at least make them think she would) any misbehaving pig. She was always one of the highlights of the piggy virtual events and a favorite of the digest. You will miss her, I'm sure. Duke has been waiting for her, I'm sure. Our condolences, Alge and the Piggy Pirates (Barnacle Bill of the PA 13 and Captain Jack) ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823307x1201398715/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62& bcd=JulystepsfooterNO62) From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Jul 17 15:14:36 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:14:36 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- Molly Message-ID: <20090717.121436.17067.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Deb- Maybe the antibiotics are upsetting her stomach, esp. if she's been on them for so long. Is it possible to stop the AB's a few days & see if that helps? Also, be sure you are giving probiotics to regulate her gut flora. As far as nausea goes, one time when Mimi was on Reglan (gut motility med) the vet also said the drug helps with nausea too. I know you probably already know this stuff, I just thought I'd throw some ideas out there. Poor Molly. Give her hugs from us & I pray she will get better. Keep us updated & take care. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Find great deals and choose from hundreds of model airplane designs. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGsHbK9LBVP6jq7nc4LcHtkQuD5flTacEtlERViyL3t9joyrMrVAk/ From suzy at dunser.com Fri Jul 17 17:11:02 2009 From: suzy at dunser.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suzy_D=FCnser?=) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:11:02 +1200 Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge - Ladybug Message-ID: <103AE342-E47B-4A4F-BBAB-932C9A240ADD@dunser.com> I would like to add my condolences for the passing of the amazing Ladybug. Where would all those youngsters have been on their adventures without her keeping a watchful eye on things? Joan, it's a credit to your love and care that she lived to be such a happy old age. I know she will leave a big hole in your life, but I hope your good memories of her help heal your heart. Love and wheeks from Suzy and Rocky and Cocoa in our hearts From ann.evans at hintlink.com Fri Jul 17 18:05:36 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:05:36 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Molly Message-ID: <4A60F5B0.3020608@hintlink.com> The 4 most common reasons that cavies go off food are, malocclusion, oral thrush, gastric bloat and cystitis. The vet has ruled out malocclusion but is treating Molly for a bladder infection. It sounds like the antibiotic she is taking is pediatric Bactrim. The dose should be 0.5 ml PO q12h for 10-14 days. Pediatric Bactrim = Trimethoprim 40 mg and Sulfamethoxazole 200 mg in 5 ml. All cases of cystitis or bladder infection should also be treated with Rimadyl. Dose 5-10 mg PO q12h for 10-14 days. The Rimadyl is for treatment of pain and inflammation. Pain alone will put you and a cavy off food. If Molly has gastric bloat she should be treated with veterinary preparations for gastric bloat in cattle. Blot Guard or Burp at a dose of 2-10 ml every 2 hours until the bloat is relieved. Metaclopromide at a dose of 0.2-1.0 mg/kg PO q12h may improve the condition. When was the last time the vet looked into Molly?s mouth? If she has oral thrush, which is a fungal infection of the mouth, she will not want to eat. Oral thrush is treated with Daktarin Oral Gel 0.5 ml 2-3 tomes daily as required. Daktarin Oral Gel = miconazole 200 mg per 1 g of gel. Fungal infections if gone untreated can become systemic. I hope this helps. Please buy a scale ASAP and weigh your cavies weekly. Cheers, Ann and the Rescued Piggys of Piggyville Tampa Florida USA From dganley at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jul 17 22:17:55 2009 From: dganley at tampabay.rr.com (deb ganley) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:17:55 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Anouncement-- Joan Message-ID: We're so sorry to hear about Lady Bug. She was an amazing girl & very loved by everyone who knew her, or just read about her. Our condolences--Deb, Molly, Emma, Lily & Winnie (& Potter, always with us) From gsbees at earthlink.net Fri Jul 17 22:40:15 2009 From: gsbees at earthlink.net (clio) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:40:15 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge, Lady Bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Joan, Our condolences in reading about Lady Bug ... she certainly was a super special lady, and was so well loved and pampered ... you wrote so many beautiful stories about her many adventures. We're thinking about you, and I'm sure Lady Bug is continuing on many, many new adventures and thinking up new stories to tell you :)) "Phoebe's Mom" - Petaluma, CA From juwles at bigpond.com Sat Jul 18 07:06:48 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:06:48 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health - MACIE In-Reply-To: <573728.54187.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <573728.54187.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joanne I know that piggies do get cancer, for a fact. My sister had a Rex who we had to have put to sleep due to a huge tumour in his tummy region; and her current Rex has adenocarcinoma of the mammary glands (yep..... a male piggy with breast cancer). He had both the cancers removed about 18 months ago, and is still going strong - he's happy, loves to run around the floor in his free time; but I have noticed his weight is dropping, and I can feel his spine/hip bones. So I guess that means the cancer is working inside home, but it seems to be working slowly. We didn't expect to have him so long, and he shows no signs of giving in and heading to the Bridge. Sometimes piggies get malocclusion of the molar teeth, which prevents eating..... maybe Macie is still eating, but not enough to keep her weight up. Maybe you could try syringe feeding some Critical Care for a while, as a supplement, not as a sole food, to see if the weight increases. I've also heard that Critical Care is supposed to stimulate the appetite, so I can't see it hurting Macie to try this for a while. Also, piggies can get crusty sores on the lips/side of the mouth, which can hurt them, and could make eating painful. I did have one other thought..... but it's totally gone out of my brain at the moment. I will write again when I remember it! Best of luck with your baby, Macie Julie + her herd of 9 magnificent & pampered boys + 1 (my sister's piggy) remembering Muppet, Teddy, Archie, Dougall & Brandy (forever in my heart) "My love is with you always, I knew it from the start When first I saw your face and felt your wings around my heart" From juwles at bigpond.com Sat Jul 18 07:15:07 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:15:07 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: - Condolences to Joan, re Lady Bug In-Reply-To: <179372.41744.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <179372.41744.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6B7DE29D730E4DF88148DF50DD57AF31@JuliePC> Dear Birdie Would you please convey my deepest condolences to Joan on the passing of her beloved Lady Bug? That piggy has been around all the years I've been a part of this digest, and I'll miss not hearing her name on this Digest. I know Lady Bug was very deeply loved by Joan, and the extended piggy community. Joan should be and can be very proud of keeping her Lady Bug happy and healthy for such a very long time! She is one great slave........ I hope I am able to follow in her footsteps and keep mine around that long. Would you please pass on to Joan my prayers of comfort, love, and priceless memories of her Lady Bug? Sad regards Julie + all her beloved piggies from Oz "Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened." From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 12:09:08 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Ladybug Message-ID: <862138.51971.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Joan: It really saddens me to send this post. Ladybug has been a treasured piggy member for so long that it almost doesn't seem possible that she has crossed the bridge. I am sure that your heart is hurting and I am so very sorry. Ladybug lived to a nice age, but we all know it's never long enough. "Rest in Peace, Sweet Ladybug". With our sadness & sympathy, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie Too many animals & not enough homes...Please adopt a pet! From pandameisje at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 14:09:34 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:09:34 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: the lady bug is reunited with her Duke Message-ID: The Lady Bug is reunited with Duke The Lady bug, A well known piggy to the GPDD (guinea pig daily digest) has left us and is now reunited with the love of her life Duke (Glynis' boy). The Lady Bug has made it to the age of 7 years and one month old! She is an example to us all, and will be missed by many. Thank you Joan and Lady bug to bring us joy with you many adventures, and keeping the young piggies in line with your cane. We send our sincerest condolences! Slave Mikey and the rest of the SCAMPS society I have added this bad news to the scamps website: http://scamps-gpdd.blogspot.com/2009/07/lady-bug-is-reunited-with-duke.html For pigtures of the Lady Bug and her story on the SCAMPS website: http://scamps-gpdd.blogspot.com/2008/10/lady-bug.html p.s. All slaves that have a SCAMPS piggie of 5 years old or older, you can email their story plus a pigture, and i will add them to the SCAMPS site! -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Sat Jul 18 15:08:34 2009 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:08:34 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Ladybug Message-ID: The Ladybug was one of the most famous piggies on the digest and was well loved by everyone. She had a very happy and very long life (thanks to Joan) but she will be greatly missed. Stefanie and the sad Surrey Squeakers _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Jul 18 23:24:43 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:24:43 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT- Debbie's candle lighting Message-ID: <20090718.202443.1991.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> I would like to have the list for Debbie's candle lighting completed by next weekend. If you would like to be included on the list & haven't contacted me yet you can e-mail me on here or by my personal e-mail with your city & state/country & name if you want that included. I will send out a reminder again the middle of the week. Thanks. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Air Compressors at SEARS Shop SEARS For Huge Selection of Air Compressors & More Online Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=fNa9Jgd-e7OkYZf3ELaEzQAAJ1DiI6TBn7f0PnFTVU4r_S72AAUAAAAAAAAAADm06D0A-ET2OUSnA3gs_TWP7DRIAAAAAA== From juwles at bigpond.com Sun Jul 19 07:56:36 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:56:36 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Gpdd] Health: Spooky Message-ID: Hey M Congratulations!!! Great job......... be proud of yourself! It seems strange that grass might have been causing the problem - but maybe it's just fresh grass. Maybe the hay grass might suite Spooky better? I loved your photos of piggies mowing grass. I just wanted to reach in and cuddle them! Kind regards Happy wheeks, squeaks & cuddles, Julie and her herd of 9 boys {remembering my darlings - Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart and soul - desperately & despairingly missed) From muncheemom at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 12:23:15 2009 From: muncheemom at gmail.com (Kacee Conklin) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:23:15 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Candle for Debbie Message-ID: <7ce1d4910907190923g2ea98e6s9fbd3df1341f1a7e@mail.gmail.com> A candle, actually several candles, were lit for Debbie in Franklin, TN, USA. Kacee and the Munchees From cavyhaven1 at netzero.com Sun Jul 19 14:13:23 2009 From: cavyhaven1 at netzero.com (cavyhaven1 at netzero.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:13:23 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS: New piggies Message-ID: <20090719.131323.17218.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> It has been a while since I have last written but I wanted to tell everyone that I adopted two new piggies, the third of the herd had been killed by a newly adopted dog in the household as the cage was not a covered one. They had a wonderful home, their slave cried hard as I picked them up and stated that at least they would be safe with me, I hugged her and thanked her for them. She gave me all of their belongings that they were use to and they are comfy here now. We (my hubby and I ) love them so. One is an Abby, she is a female who is a little timid and is basically black with bits of brown and white. We call her Milkshake. The other is a short haired orange male with half a white face, he is sweet too. We named him Magoo. We have added them to our group of three girls already Hello kitty (sick with bladder stones), Maggie, and Tuesday. We are also watching a friends pig who has bladder stones her name is Belle so we are happily busy busy busy. We love this site. Good luck to every one out there and lets keep out pigs safe and happy...Adopt adopt adopt. Love Kate from cavyhaven ____________________________________________________________ Click now to find great remedies for hangovers! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxWYu1uNEqqQMedyyaWngNps0Mmmzw4dY7jCeo19jsGHwOm32TSYMY/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jul 19 18:39:37 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:39:37 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Welcome new piggies Message-ID: <32D8C47367E84086BDDD4615FB01295C@inspiron1150> Kate, Such a sad story about the little piggy that was killed by a dog which was supposed to bring joy to his/her adopted family and instead brought only heartbreak. I am so glad that the survivors have found a safe and loving home with you and your hubby. A great big piggy welcome to Milkshake and Magoo. Sending our best wishes to Hello Kitty and Belle for a swift recovery from their bladder stones. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 19 18:59:08 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Lady Bug Message-ID: <526530.79227.qm@web80205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Our Deepest Sympathies for Lady Bug. She will be greatly missed. Such a fine Lady indeed. sympathies from,? ?The Misfits From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Jul 19 22:17:29 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:17:29 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences for Debbie Message-ID: <4A63D3B9.5060603@geeksnet.com> Although I am late in writing this, I have two candles lit -- one for Debbie and one for her piggies who have gone before her to the Bridge. It is so hard to imagine that she is truly gone. She was so full of kindness, spirit, and life. I must admit that I am at a bit of a loss in understanding her passing. Why did one so sweet, generous, and giving have to leave us at much too young an age? I keep an archive of many of my personal mails, and I am so thankful to have many from her. As yet, I haven't been able to bring myself to read them all, but as I do, I know she will come back to life through her words. We were so lucky to have her as a cherished member of the Digest. When I wrote her last, I believe she had already passed into a coma. However, I said something that I will repeat here: "Wherever you are, near or far, you will always be a light in our hearts." Debbie, we will miss you dearly. Pete, Sarah, and Joy, we are so very sorry for your loss. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 14:08:47 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Cindy's post regarding Debbie Message-ID: <69130.90319.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Cindy... Your post for Debbie was so lovely. Why don't you put it on her memorial site? http://debbie.jones.muchloved.com/ It's so true and well said. Debbie was too young and brought us all so much joy. I miss her terribly. Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie Too many animals & not enough homes...Please adopt a pet! From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 14:10:19 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: new piggies Message-ID: <432008.46022.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Kate! Congrats on welcoming 2 more piggies to your family! I'm so happy they're safe and sound with you! Enjoy them! Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Maci, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie Too many animals & not enough homes...Please adopt a pet! From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 15:42:00 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Thank You from Joan Message-ID: <901308.73930.qm@web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all, Joan sent me a nice thank you note and wanted me to pass it on to all of you. ? Hi Birdie.? Please thank everyone on the GPDD for their kind words about the Bug.? It is appreciated. ? I like to think of Lady Bug and her heart being young and strong again.? Her arthritis no longer?cripples her so she can do popcorns and zoomies the way she loved to when she was young.? She can see forever now as she runs through the fields of parsley and grass.? If I know her she's bedeviling all the others who are with her.? I want to think of her being like this until the end of all things. ? Thank you for acting as a "mailbox".? That's very sweet of you. ? Joan ? From suzy at dunser.com Mon Jul 20 17:53:13 2009 From: suzy at dunser.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suzy_D=FCnser?=) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:53:13 +1200 Subject: [Gpdd] misc - candle for Debbie Message-ID: Hi Jaime, We lit a candle for Debbie in Auckland, New Zealand. Suzy and Rocky and Cocoa in our hearts From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Jul 20 20:02:36 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:02:36 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- welcomes Message-ID: <20090720.170236.908.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Welcome to Milkshake & Magoo. May you be happy in your new & SAFE home! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Turn life into a beach with a new sandbox. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGaFN47zS8cCQcNOuXZh0xW0lDKtyJIFdLKZqlEFa7zoNTCGwValK/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jul 21 04:20:04 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:20:04 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Pampered pig Message-ID: <7BEBF4622AFC4BAA835DAC7939D40234@inspiron1150> This piggy should definitely be a part of our pampered group. http://petoftheday.com/ Penny and the Piggyfriends. From oreochockc at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 21:42:15 2009 From: oreochockc at yahoo.com (corrine sakumoto) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Snowy Bear, My Heart Message-ID: <709033.43304.qm@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> My Dear Little Snowy Bear:? Okay, you're not so little, you're three years old.? Can it be a mere three years ago that I saw you at the pet store?? First, there was a bunch of white piggies.? Then less and less.? Then I began to 'watch' you whenever I went.? One time your flanks were losing hair so we talked about getting you but then noticed the hairs were growing back.? I so wanted you but as usual daddy Michael said we have enough (like that's possible!).? We went to another pet store in November and there was a long haired piggie and I said wow! we haven't seen a long haired one for years!? So daddy Michael said (shockingly!) get him, I know you want him!? Plus it was our anniversary, so we got the little hairy guy (later named Snoopy).? The day before thanksgiving, we again stopped at the pet store but couldn't see you, then later saw you in 'isolation', when we asked why, the store clerk said because you've been a naughty boy!? Well, humph!? As you know, you came home with us that day.? You looked like a little bear to me so I called you Snowy Bear.? You had amazingly coarse hair.? I guess some people can't see past 'soft hair' but boy do they miss out.? In the beginning, photos of you were 'grumpy.'? You were good natured so could never figure out why your pigtures were grumpy.? I always loved that you had to have your ice pack, no matter what. Even when it was rather cold, and I wouldn't put it in, I'd look into your pen to find a huge mess! Message received! No matter what, you had to have your ice pack. It tickled me when your grandmommy watched over you when I was out of town and she said to me, Snowy Bear's pen is all messy! and I asked, did you give him his ice pack? She'd say, he has an ice pack? I'd say, yes! otherwise he tears apart his pen in protest. So she learned too. :) My absolute favorite is that you are the ONLY piggie to stand up for me!? I'd hold your favorite, italian parsley, and ask you, will you stand up for me? and sure enough, you'd stand on your hind legs with your cute little paws dangling!? It always tickled me and warmed my heart.? You had the most cuddly and warm body.? Whenever I held you between my neck and shoulder, you'd press your body into my neck and cheek and sometimes I'd want to joke, you're cutting off my air!? I was always so happy to see you stand up for your fresh food meals.? You always smiled at us.? Even when you were on antibiotics those last three weeks, daddy Michael would place you on the bed next to me and you'd always watch me.? I used to joke that you're glaring at me, I know you're behind daddy doing this to me mommy! as you so very happily took your medicine, probiotic, water, by syringe.? Even if I was standing at the foot of the bed, you'd turn your body around, just to look at me.? I know daddy michael was right when he said, he just loves you so much that no matter where you are, he just wants to look at you.? I saw the love in your eyes for me.? I hope you know that I love you a bazillion fold back.? There isn't any way to heal this huge hole in my heart.? You were savagely taken before your time.? I always promised you that nothing bad would happen to you and look what I allowed to happen.? Sweetie, mommy can NEVER forgive herself for that.? mommy hopes to join you soon.? Snowy Bear, you are my heart, my cuddle pig, my precious little boy.? This hurt and pain will never lessen.? I will love you always and forever, Snowy Bear.? Love, your mommy corrine From Glynis at garnay.com.au Wed Jul 22 00:36:04 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:36:04 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] sorry been missing Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220DA1@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Sorry all i am around, just extremely busy with work. Doing end of year roll over and trying to catch up on heaps. Whee are all thinking of our dear friends at the gpdd xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I sent a message to Joan on guinealynx to her email addy i do hope she gets it, Birdie would you kindly tell her that i've sent her one? thankyou xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I can just see in my mind sweet LB prancing around in the green fields paw in paw with Duke, still holding her cane to trick the youngsters so they don't realise she has her sight once again........... It brought back some beautiful memories of the two of them on their virtual events, it also bought back to pain of loosing Duke. And then i thought of Joan and my heart went out to her, she has nobody to have around her i did i had my family. And now i have my little girls. I see we have some new members welcome from us in OZ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I have taken some more piccies of the girls, i know that M knows about it if anybody would like to see them i am hoping M or Mikey can direct you (i'm hopeless at this), but if you email and you want some pics i can do that!! Loves to everybody, thinking of you all, wishing everyone loves and wheeeeeeeeeks Glynis, Velvet and Onyx (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From pandameisje at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 15:31:13 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:31:13 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc and Virtual: Pigtures of Glynis Onyx and Velvet Message-ID: Dear all, Of course I don't mind directing you to the pigtures of Glynis gorgeous girls! Her album on photobucket is: http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/DukenSully/ Here is a nice pic of Onyx: http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/DukenSully/?action=view¤t=DSCN2311.jpg And one from little Velvet: http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/DukenSully/?action=view¤t=DSCN2310.jpg I think Velvet looks like Jan the Boar! And they both look so cuute! Well I hope you enjoy. On account of the pirate trip: My girls have text me that they have seen the ship they call the 'Flying Dutch boar', they said Toby was captain of it, and it seems like he was not alone. All of the more adventurous piggies were on his ship letting their living friends know they are doing okay and miss them. They also said they were sending all of of their love! Toby was looking healthy again and all his wound had healed, Lotje was there too looking happy as ever! I think he can have his pirate trip just as well as a ghost.. Of course the girls were referring to the ship the Flying dutchman. More info on it, and the story about this ghost ship: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Dutchman When are our piggies coming home? I miss them! Slave Mikey without my Winky girls Guiny, Dunya and Woopy and Valentine Chico -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From zarafa101 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 22 16:18:49 2009 From: zarafa101 at yahoo.com (Stephanie Labbate) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] Can Guinea Pigs Save the World? Message-ID: <182465.99371.qm@web62505.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Today my husband got an?e-mail from "Disney Insider" (about "G-Force") with the above words?in the subject??? We had to laugh! I think all of us guinea pig lovers have?ALWAYS?known that guinea pigs can save the?world.??LOL! May?the "G-Force" be with?you! ? Stephanie Mocha, Felix, and Lily From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 23:37:28 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Snowy Bear Message-ID: <705778.84440.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What a wonderful piggie and what a tribute!! My heart broke all over again for you. Thanks, Corrine, for letting us see what a special fellow he was, for sharing in spite of the pain. Joanie From ann.evans at hintlink.com Thu Jul 23 00:16:26 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:16:26 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Snowy Bear Loves You and Michael Message-ID: <4A67E41A.5060306@hintlink.com> Dear Corrine, I am crying so hard I can hardly see what I am typing. I just want you to know that you are not responsible for the death of Snowy Bear. No matter how well meaning your vet may have been, she did a procedure without your permission and without the knowledge of how to treat Snowy Bear properly. I hope you can find in your heart to forgive your vet for what she did. But you did nothing wrong. You had no way of seeing the future or predicting what your vet was going to do. There are so many piggys out there that need you and Michael to adopt them and love them like you did for Snowy Bear. You can never replace him but you have so much love to give to others that you must go on living to share that love. Snowy Bear was so lucky to have you and Michael. I wish I could take all your pain away. Sincerely, Ann and the Rescued Piggys of Piggyville, Tampa Florida USA. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jul 23 08:10:58 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:10:58 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE A Cautionary Tale.......... Message-ID: ............but with a happy ending. A piggy was taken to see my Rodentologists because he was not eating. When they inserted the separators to check his teeth, a large amount of hay and grass was found to be stuck in his mouth. They carefully picked out all of the pieces and one clump appared to be stuck so, assuming that a piece of hay had caught somewhere, a harder tug was necessary. Checking through the mass of uneaten food that came out, there was a staple! Now that they were able to see inside his mouth clearly, it could be seen, from the injury caused, that the staple had embedded itself into the little piggy's mouth. The staple was closed one end and open the other and the sharp end must have stuck into him and although he had tried to eat, he had been unable to do so. In England, our newspapers are beset with stupid little extra sections.....sport, travel, arts etc..... which fall out when the paper is opened to line a pen or cage. Most of these only consist of 4 pages so why it is felt necessary to staple them together I do not know. I collect all of these sections up in a box and de-staple them for use another day. There is always a shortage of newspaper at Piggyfriends, despite the wonderful folk who leave bags of them on the doorstep otherwise I would recycle the stapled pages. Sometimes one stapled section contains yet another nested within ( or even two ). The little piggy was so lucky that the staple had not gone any further as if it had been swallowed he would be unlikely to be alive to tell the tale. His mouth was sore but is healing up quickly. His owner was mortified to see what had happened to his piggy. I saw the piggy yesterday when I visited the Rodentologists and he was happily munching hay. He is called Rupert and looks the image of my Peony, who was part of that big RSPCA rescue that I wrote about earlier this year. I found out that he, too, was part of that rescue and as my Rodentologists have several of those rescued piggies themselves, he was amongst "family". So, if you use newspapers in your cages and pens and if those papers contain staples, think of Rupert and double check that no staples are going into the cage. Rupert is well enough to go home today. I love a happy ending. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From juwles at bigpond.com Thu Jul 23 08:16:28 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:16:28 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Snowy Bear and Corrine In-Reply-To: <709033.43304.qm@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <709033.43304.qm@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Corrine I know how desperately you loved Snowy Bear. I too desperately and devotedly and indiscernibly loved my Muppet, Teddy Dougall, Brandy ...... and my Archie - Archie was my soul mate in this life (I'm unmarried - never found a two-legged creature that could come up to the love I feel for my piggies). But I know Archie and I had this unbreakable bond of love and understanding. I don't say that to "normal" people - just to lovely piggy people, because I know they understand exactly what I mean. I thought I would die...... in fact I wanted to die, to be with my Archie. I was inconsolable, depressed, suicidal (but not wanting to take my own life - just praying God to do the deed for me). I am still not over my Archie's passing. I want to write a tribute to Archie (I have done one for Teddy), but I can't yet, even though it's nearly 2 years since he left this gaping hole in my heart. But....... I have other piggies whom I love now, and who love me, who need me, who comfort me, who give me a reason to get up in the mornings and to struggle through each day (I do not enjoy good health and am actually an invalid pensioner). If I didn't have those piggies, I'd probably lie in bed all day feeling sorry for myself. But, I thank our Lord that I do have more piggies to love. I didn't want to replace Archie or Dougall when they died within 1 month of each other, but I realised I needed a furry bundle to cuddle and snuggle with, and love and put a smile back on my face. My 9 boys all know me, they squeak and wheek when they hear my voice, they squeak when I crackle a plastic bag because they know that means food, they will jump or crawl or climb to my shoulder if I have them on the table in their lounge suite whilst I eat meals (I have them there for company), but they want to always be touching me. They love me as much as I love them - I know it without a doubt! You sound so much like me when you express your feelings, and I want you to know that it was the love and caring and prayers sent by members of the GPDD to me, that helped me so much after losing my piggies. Everyone on the GPDD feels the same love and devotion for their piggies. Piggies are our life, our world. Piggies are definitely the most important thing in my life...... I always attend to their needs before my own, or before my Mum's (she lives with me since my Dad died). When I go shopping the trolley is always full of veges/fruit (celery, tomatoes, strawberries, watermelon, broccoli, cauliflower, pawpaw, rock melon, parsley, corn, cucumber, carrot, grapes, pears, mandarins, oranges, etc. Then I think, oops, I don't have enough money to buy food for we humans!! We can't get the timothy hay downunder that a lot of GPDD members can - so I am growing my own breed of grass (funnily enough called guinea grass), that they adore and go crazy over! If I'm out of that grass here on my property, I go hunting around the neighbourhood and township for the grass. The other day I slipped over the side of a hill as I tried to reach some grass just beyond the length of my arms, fell flat on my backside. I know I must look like a "bag lady" to everyone who drives by, but I don't care - I love my pigs so much, they are all that matter - pride does not come into it!! (What a sight I must make, this overweight, middle-aged woman struggling up and down hillsides, etc (LOL)). Why I'm saying all this, and again opening that huge wound in my heart, is because I want you to know you are not alone in how you are feeling. I know you want to be with Snowy Bear - but my dear Corinne, you will be with him when the time is right. And *NOT BEFORE THEN*. I think your Snowy must be very concerned to hear you talking/emailing like you are. He loved you to distraction, and knows that someone with as much love and caring in their heart as you, for guinea pigs, means you must always have guinea pigs to love, to nurture, to care for, to comfort, and to give you that purpose in life. There are so many piggies who need to be loved and shown that life can be good - no matter how long that life is going to be. The tone of your email worries me. I want you to take comfort and believe that Snowy is happy now, he's with so many friends - and his heart must be breaking to have you so sad. He lived a wonderful life with you, for the time he had. The vet who did that surgery is obviously a quack, and should have a malpractice suit taken against him/her. Snowy's passing was not of your doing........ and I think it was kinder that he did pass across the Bridge after what had been done to him - so he didn't suffer. There are so few vets around the world who really know how to care for our piggies. That's why this Digest group is so important - there's a lot of first hand knowledge amongst all those lovely people. Please remember you are a special person, a special member of the GPDD group, and we all need you - as much as neglected/unwanted piggies need you. I will say a prayer for your comfort......... please, please, stop hitting yourself for something that whilst tragic, was not your fault!! Love Julie & her 9 wonderful boys {remembering my darlings - Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart and soul - desperately & despairingly missed) "My love is with you always, I knew it from the start When first I saw your face and felt your wings around my heart" From mfug at live.co.uk Thu Jul 23 08:54:50 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:54:50 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement; Velvet and Onyx Pigtures Message-ID: Hi Glynis I have put all your Velvet and Onyx Pigtures into their own album and I am posting the link here to show everyone on the digest your gorgeous girls. To everyone else enjoy the pigtures http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/DukenSully/Velvet%20and%20Onyx/?albumview=slideshow M _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Thu Jul 23 08:59:53 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:59:53 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement; Another Link to Pigtures Message-ID: Well Glynis, somehow I managed to share slideshow of your girls lol This link just shows you the photos in the normal album, same photos just different ways of seeing them. http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/DukenSully/Velvet%20and%20Onyx/ M confusing herself _________________________________________________________________ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From bunsnpigs at aol.com Thu Jul 23 12:10:52 2009 From: bunsnpigs at aol.com (bunsnpigs at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:10:52 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: NO, Guinea Pigs Can NOT Save the World! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CBD9C7480B6660-B60-A@webmail-da19.sysops.aol.com> We should send that message far and wide. Please copy these posts and put them on your local Craigslist. The rescues (me included) are shuddering at the thought of all of the dumps coming for poor little furry ones. Our group is also doing education tables at various local movie theatres on Saturday. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pet/1284196807.html or http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/pet/1275492911.html Judi L. http://www.mgpr.org From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jul 23 15:32:44 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:32:44 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Velvet and Onyx's pigtures Message-ID: The pigtures of Velvet and Onyx are gorgeous and I have to agree with Mieke that Velvet does look amazingly like Jan the Boar, especially in the pigture entitled "Velvet smiling". Penny and the Piggyfriends. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 23 17:07:34 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Anastasia Message-ID: <524188.96071.qm@web80205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, just a update of little old Anastasia, As you know she lost the use of her legs about a month ago. We took her to the vet who said it could be a back injury or? just nerve damage, but either way the out come would be the same.We had the choice of putting her to sleep then or taking her home and helping with all her needs. I chose helping her as long as she is eating and wanting love.?I honestly think her injury came from her cage mate: Athena.?? Athena has this thing for resting on other guineas backs... well with Anastasia being such a old gal I think the pressure was just to much.? Now on to the update. Well so far she is doing well. We keep her in a small kids swimming pool in our room with many soft towels and fleece that is changed several times a day. She then has the luxury of having other guineas "visit" her with us watching carefully over the visit. Seems somehow the other guineas know she has a injury.. they are very careful around her, and she loves the company of them.? She takes Meloxicam for any pain and it helps with the swelling a bit. I did try her on Potters Tabritis tablets, but that really didn't seem to improve anything. The problem we are having now is her legs thighs are swollen? I think from the? lack of activity. We take her out alot and even take her to ball games. I put her in a plastic wash bucket for dishes with soft towels in it, when we go on a "outing"? She is developing sores on her legs too. I have special creme from the Dr to put on the sores.. but I feel so bad for her.? She is such a sweet girl, such a happy go lucky gal.She always reaches up for kisses. We have to syringe her water as she doesn't want to use the water bottle at all. She was able to move around by herself for the first 5 weeks of this by dragging herself around. but now she stays in one spot. We wash her bottom? several times a day for her and I get up several times each nite for her water break.? Has anyone dealt with this sort of problem before? and any new ideas to help her would be great too:) She loves to lay on her daddy at nite she cuddles in on his chest so cute. thanks again for any ideas or suggestions on how to make her life easier:) Jean (misfits) From gracetheface at yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 17:28:06 2009 From: gracetheface at yahoo.com (grace ramp) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rescue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <672050.80160.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If any of you check out the Metropolitan Guinea Pig Rescue down in the Maryland/D.C. area, I have applied to adopt Cupcake and Latte. They are so adorable. Wish me luck. I think I will get them because I adopted Oreo from there years ago. The three I currently have just never bonded with me and I REALLLLLYYYYY need a lap pig, which Cupcake is. And poor Latte has had a hard life so far so I plan to spoil her like no pig has ever been spoiled. Talk to you soon. Grace, Gus, Rusty & Babe with Oreo and Pork Chop at the Bridge From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Jul 24 00:16:56 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:16:56 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUCEMENT- Debbie's candle lighting Message-ID: <20090723.211656.28056.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Here is the list I have so far for Debbie's candle lighting. If a correction needs made or you would like added to the list please let me know by Sunday evening. I will be putting the list in alphabetical order, but here it is for now: Illinois- -Jean & Andy- Moline England- -Penny- East Sussex -M- South East -Stefanie & The Surrey Squeakers- Camberley, Surrey New York- -Joanne & family- Mahopac -Kathy- Ridge Canada- -Joanne G.- Ontario -Kristen & the Critter Crew- Hamilton, Ontario Ohio- -Alge- Logan Maryland- -Audrey & Gordon- Burtonsville Australia- -Glynis- Croydon, Victoria, Australia -Julie- Witta, Queensland Nebraska- -Birdie- LaVista Indiana- -Mary Ann, with Mocha, Skunky & James- Mishawaka North Carolina- -Leah- Charlotte Colorado- -Kathy- Texas- -Carla, Apache & Remy- Houston Florida- -Ann Evans- Tampa Tennessee- -Kacee & the Munchies- Franklin Oregon- Candy- McMinnville New Zealand- Suzy & Rocky- Auckland Saskatchewan- Pat S.- Regina Pennsylvania- Jaime- Willow Street ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Always a good call. Click now to establish your local phone service! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTHbDjXtfikH6tdTYFoAjzO7Gcigq0HS0CrsKIb4yZxJCzk9kPBkPm/ From elmga at hotmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:00:01 2009 From: elmga at hotmail.com (ellen garrison) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:00:01 -1000 Subject: [Gpdd] (Gpdd) ((All Piggies Who Were Loved on Earth)) Visits from Piggy Angels in Dreams Message-ID: All, I think all piggies who were loved on earth, includes all guinea pigs in guinea pig heaven, and/or Rainbow bridge. Likewise, all guinea pigs are loved at Rainbow bridge, regardless. I dreamed about my two original ones, Li'l Guy (Antonio) and Ginger (aka Gin Gin). I had a dream about them not to long ago. It was almost real. Li'l Guy was a SCAMPS and he loved Gin Gin, who had heart disease. I felt that maybe I did not do enough, anyway when she died she was only 2 and a half, and he missed her and was never the same. I got a new, little sow and they did not really get along. He passed 3 months after Gin Gin, and I feel again that I did not do enough, but that is because I am still greiving over it. Li'l Guy passed last year July 24th, one year ago, Rest in Peace, at Rainbow Bridge, Li'l Guy and Gin Gin. Come visit me in my dreams anytime. Love, Mommy Ellen and the 10 piggies _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 11:54:04 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge ~ Snowy Bear Message-ID: <514262.70494.qm@web50510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Corrine, I have to say that I agree that your blaming yourself and talk of wanting to be with you beloved Snowy Bear is scary. You must realize that Snowy Bear would want you go on in his honor to educate other vets and (especially your own) that is NOT the thing to do on guinea pigs. Snowy Bear wants you to protect other guinea pigs from this so that his life did not end without purpose. Corrine I truly believe that everything happens for a reason in life. That was Snowy Bear's destiny to help all other guinea pigs in the world. Use Snowy's memory and spirt guide you to help not only that vet but all vet's and other guinea pig slaves to understand that this in not an answer to any problem that guineas have. As always my thoughts and prayers are with you to give you strengh to go on loveing life and taking Snowy Bear's memory to guide you. You are a good slave with such a big heart, use that love to help others. ? ? Birdie From cuttlefisharts at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 12:22:09 2009 From: cuttlefisharts at comcast.net (Cuttlefish Arts) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:22:09 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE A Cautionary Tale........ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm glad all ended well! I sometimes use junk office paper and mail as a substrate below the big tabloid sheets of newsprint. Some piggies will eat their newspaper, alas, but I make sure to have several layers of "clean" black and white newsprint on the very top where they can get at it. You can't always tell though -- if they are determined, they can get to it; I don't currently have any "diggers" so this works well. I had a gp who was pretty old, and in retrospect, I realize he drank and urinated a lot -- as well as playing with his water bottle. This made for a damp situation -- but with the proper bedding on top of papers, the papers would suck all the liquid down so that the gps were on dry bedding. Anyway, I used shredded paper and junk mail below the layers of newspaper, and it was excellent for absorption. And cheap. BUT you do have to watch for loose staples! I have started using a stapler that doesn't use staples and can clip about 5 sheets together by making a notch in the paper. Very clever! I wish they would come up with an industrial process to do this. It would also make recycling a lot easier. ---Vic > > ............but with a happy ending. > > A piggy was taken to see my Rodentologists because he was not eating. When > they inserted the separators to check his teeth, a large amount of hay and > grass was found to be stuck in his mouth. They carefully picked out all of the > pieces and one clump appared to be stuck so, assuming that a piece of hay had > caught somewhere, a harder tug was necessary. > > Checking through the mass of uneaten food that came out, there was a staple! > Now that they were able to see inside his mouth clearly, it could be seen, > from the injury caused, that the staple had embedded itself into the little > piggy's mouth. The staple was closed one end and open the other and the sharp > end must have stuck into him and although he had tried to eat, he had been > unable to do so. > > In England, our newspapers are beset with stupid little extra > sections.....sport, travel, arts etc..... which fall out when the paper is > opened to line a pen or cage. Most of these only consist of 4 pages so why it > is felt necessary to staple them together I do not know. I collect all of > these sections up in a box and de-staple them for use another day. There is > always a shortage of newspaper at Piggyfriends, despite the wonderful folk who > leave bags of them on the doorstep otherwise I would recycle the stapled > pages. Sometimes one stapled section contains yet another nested within ( or > even two ). > > The little piggy was so lucky that the staple had not gone any further as if > it had been swallowed he would be unlikely to be alive to tell the tale. His > mouth was sore but is healing up quickly. His owner was mortified to see what > had happened to his piggy. > > I saw the piggy yesterday when I visited the Rodentologists and he was happily > munching hay. He is called Rupert and looks the image of my Peony, who was > part of that big RSPCA rescue that I wrote about earlier this year. I found > out that he, too, was part of that rescue and as my Rodentologists have > several of those rescued piggies themselves, he was amongst "family". > > So, if you use newspapers in your cages and pens and if those papers contain > staples, think of Rupert and double check that no staples are going into the > cage. > > Rupert is well enough to go home today. I love a happy ending. > > Penny and the Piggyfriends. > From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 13:54:27 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Another candle for Debbie Message-ID: <874923.84691.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I kindled a candle for dear Debbie today. Used my special mint-scented one in my bunny-silhouetted candle holder. Even though it was daylight, I hope she was looking my way and saw it. I was so surprised to see that she was not younger than I (just turned 53, thank you very much). She was so young in spirit, I always assumed she was in her thirties. Farewell, Debbie. We're missing you! with love, Joanie Penryn, CA USA From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 13:59:21 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Velvet and Onyx glamor shots Message-ID: <739725.89035.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What a couple of beauties! But not without a sense of humor. The hiding under Velvet's hind end (It was Velvet, wasn't it?) and the one where the greens take on the look of green fangs were especially amusing. But most of all, I'm struck with how lovely and loved these two girls are and how poised and trusting their outlook. Thanks for this glimpse at these glamor girls. Give them a kiss for me! Joanie From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 16:32:27 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Rupert Message-ID: <413077.42640.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ?Dear Penny, Wow what a eye opening story for sure. I am so happy Rupert is doing well!!? So happy to read of a happy ending:)? Jean (misfits) From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 16:34:29 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Velvet and Onyx Message-ID: <395213.43556.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you M for putting the lovely pictures of Velvet and Onyx up for us to enjoy:) Glynis your little girls are precious!!!!?? Such sweet sweet girls indeed. thanks for sharing:) Jean (misfits) From tmacallister at musician.org Fri Jul 24 16:42:15 2009 From: tmacallister at musician.org (Tiffany MacAllister) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:42:15 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCEMENT] New Member Here Message-ID: <20090724204215.4B8D6606865@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Hi, my name is Tiffy and my Guinea Pig's name is S'mores. My boyfriend bought him for me as a surprise because I had been really wanting Guinea Pigs and had been gathering all the necessary supplies. Well, I've had S'mores for a little over a month now. So far, everything is well and we're looking for a companion for him. He's a sweet little thing, and he makes me wonder why I never wanted a Guinea Pig before. It's nice to meet you all and I look forward to becoming a part of this group and so does S'mores. Here are two pictures of him: http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/vanillaxtiffy/smores007.jpg http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/vanillaxtiffy/n004.jpg -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 16:57:33 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Corrine Message-ID: <329258.15505.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Corrine, I want you to know that all of us here at misfitville are praying for you. We also feel your pain over the loss of your beloved Snowy Bear. I think Julie summed it up best...?" Piggies are our world"? I think all of us on the digest know the place your at right now.. The love of our fur babies is such a strong love indeed.? Please realize that that kind of love you have experience with Snowy bear is a gift... its a gift that needs to be shared. That is why you are hurting so much right now.. After my beloved Lavern passed after her C-section? I thought my eyes would never stop crying... My heart was broken and it felt horrible... I couldn't stop thinking of her, or the way she died.. My husband was hurting just as much as me.. So we went looking to share that love again.. and that is when we found Lazerus... He licked my nose the moment I held that little furbaby.. I smiled a smile I didnt think was in me anymore... And that is when I realized that the love we have for our guinea pigs is a such a strong love, such a powerful love..? a love? that needs to be shared not held in... So I hope you find it in your heart to be able to "share" that love again with a furbaby that is desperately looking for you..please look for that little furbaby.. because once you find him/her the pain will be eased up a bit.. as the love will over flow and ?start?growing with you and your new furbaby. You will always have a special place in your heart for?Snowy Bear that can never be replaced? because each and every guinea??snatches a piece of our hearts, that belongs just ?to them, they mark it as their own.??I hope you find?in time to find that little furbaby that needs you just as bad as you need him..Let the love continue on the Love that Snowy Bear left you with that needs to be shared and nurtured to keep growing. Wishing you peace, jean (misfits) From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 21:35:06 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: staples Message-ID: <924306.97504.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Penny, thank you so much for sharing this story! I'm glad the piggy is okay, but OUCH! I appreciate you sending us a reminder to be aware of staples in newspapers we may use! Hugs! Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie In 100 years from now it will not matter what kind of car I drove or how much money I had in the bank but some lives may be better because I played an important role in making a difference for animals. From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 25 12:36:39 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to Tiffy and S'mores! Message-ID: <950190.81278.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Tiffy. That S'mores is one cute piggie. Thanks for sharing his pigtures with us. He reminds me of S'mores--marshmallow white and chocolate brown. And sweet, too, I'll bet.?A perfect name for him. We're looking forward to getting to know you both and his new pig friend when he arrives. Don't hesitate to ask any questions about piggie care; we have some really experienced GP moms and dads here. I know. I've learned so much in the short time I've been here. Really nice to meet you, and hope to hear more about S'mores' adventures in his new home. Joanie From guinygirl at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 12:45:09 2009 From: guinygirl at gmail.com (Janneke) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:45:09 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Message-ID: Hey girls! You are soo right about velvet looking like Jan the Boar. And they already looked like my suus! This is really funny to me, because Suus and Jan used to be really in love with eachother (until Jan met Guiny, poor suus was heartbroken for a while). I even considered letting them have babies, but in the end I didnt because there are enough unwanted piggies and i'd rather take in one of them and if suus had died during the pregancy i'd never have forgiven myself. But it is so cool to see how their offspring would have looked like :-D! And best of all; they have one of the sweetest slaves ever! I bet jan the boar is somewhere on that bridge smiling down on Onyx and Velvet. For those of you who never 'met' Jan the boar; this is what he looked like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jannekestaaks/3385164505/in/set-72157615899759512/ (he made me make this pigture for Alge; has anyone heard from her and how the surgery went?) And this is my Suus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jannekestaaks/3385977230/in/set-72157615899759512/ Big hug! Janneke From guinygirl at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 13:10:18 2009 From: guinygirl at gmail.com (Janneke) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:10:18 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Message-ID: Hey jean, Poor anastasia! From reading your post I've got the following ideas; 1) do you know vetbed? (just google it) It is able to let through urine. I'm guessing from your post that you re taking good care of her already, but this might make your life a bit easier. 2) You could try physical therapy. (Only if she's up for it; always keep a close eye on the pig) Is she used to lying on her back? If she is, you can move her paws for her, while she is on her back (if she isn't try to do it in a different position, you'd want to keep her as comfortable as possible. You can also do the therapy in a warm bath (not too hot!) where you rest her upper body on your hand and slowly move the hindlegs with your other hand. 3) maybe you can consider a hot water bottle or a snuggle safe. just to keep her comfortable. Never put her on a bottle that's too hot, especially since she cannot get off it by herself. We have a snuggle safe (rubber disc that goes in the microwave, if you're in the US; amazon sells it) and I can really recommend it! When yaya is in pain because of her bone disease (not that much nowadays! We're keeping our paws crossed) she loves this thing. Since it's flat it's really easy to lie on. 4) as always, Guinealynx is great ;-) Here is what they have to say about urine scald: http://www.guinealynx.info/urine_scald.html (i'm not sure that is what she has, but it sounds likely) Grtz and a hug for anastasia! Janneke and Yaya From ann.evans at hintlink.com Sat Jul 25 13:47:31 2009 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:47:31 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Tiffy and S'mores. Message-ID: <4A6B4533.4010807@hintlink.com> WELCOME Tiffy and S'mores to the GPDD family!!!! Thank you for sharing your pigtures of your adorable S'mores. My name is Ann Evans and I have operated a private cavy rescue home called Piggyville for more than 25 years. I have learned so much about cavy care from the members of the GPDD. I am also a student of Vedra Stanley-Spatcher of the Cambridge Cavy Trust and Guinea Pig Hospital and the British Association of Rodentologist. She has been my mentor for 20 years. So I guess I am showing my age here. I have had guinea pigs for 30 years and I think they are the best pet in the world. I'll let you in on a little secrete.....Guinea pigs consider humans to be their slaves. It is the piggys who are the Masters of the home. S'mores is one lucky guinea pig to have you to love and care for him. It is great that you are looking for a male friend for him since piggys are very social animals and can get very lonely when you are at work or school. Cheers, Ann and the Rescued Piggys of Piggyville, Tampa Florida USA. From mfug at live.co.uk Sat Jul 25 14:16:44 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:16:44 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement; New Member Message-ID: Welcome Tiffany and S'mores we know you are going to love being part of the digest community. Tiffany could you explain how S'mores got his name, it is very unusual. M, Fugly and Spooky From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Jul 25 15:25:42 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:25:42 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- Smores Message-ID: <20090725.122542.21941.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Tiffany- Welcome to the digest. Smores really does look like a Smore!! It's always good to have more members. Hope to hear more from you soon! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click for an affordable Health Insurance plan that fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIn7KO9OVq5f9aPgzOMa70ZDklCmYi6PPii7jXSXCKyyGUn1uLRZG/ From kskosich at msn.com Sun Jul 26 00:06:20 2009 From: kskosich at msn.com (Kathryn Skosich) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:06:20 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: to Corrine Message-ID: Dear Corrine, Although you can't see your friends on the Digest, please know that we are with you in spirit. Many of us are thinking of you, praying for you and sharing your sorrow over your dear Snowy Bear. We hope that each day will bring some healing for you. Sincerely, Kathy in CO From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jul 26 04:12:35 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:12:35 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Welcome Tiffy and S'mores Message-ID: <49B80ED58078498F9F46D889DB3923E7@inspiron1150> Welcome to new member Tiffy and piggy S'mores. Lovely pigtures! I was going to ask about the unusual name of your piggy but I saw from some posts that a S'more must be something good to eat. Then my son returned from a trip to the US and explained it all to me! I hope that you will enjoy being a member of this group of piggy lovers. Penny and the Piggyfriends ( a piggy rescue in England, where we do not have S'mores to eat ). From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 13:28:24 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Tiffy & S'Mores Message-ID: <453248.76506.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Tiffy! Welcome to the GPDD! I'm glad you found us! I'm Joanne from New York and I have 6 rescued piggies. S'Mores is just adorable! Enjoy him! Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci & Sweetie In 100 years from now it will not matter what kind of car I drove or how much money I had in the bank but some lives may be better because I played an important role in making a difference for animals. From tmacallister at musician.org Sun Jul 26 15:46:43 2009 From: tmacallister at musician.org (Tiffany MacAllister) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:46:43 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Thank You All for the Warm Welcome Message-ID: <20090726194643.CB02D606865@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Thanks everyone for the warm welcome for S'mores and I. Just for anyone who doesn't know, a S'more is a very tasty treat indeed. It involves toasting a marshmallow on a stick (usually over a campfire, but I've been known to use my stovetop) then you place the marshmallow and half a chocolate bar between two grahm cracker halves. The heat from the marshmallow melts the chocolate so that it's a messy gooey sandwich of utter delicious. So, he got his name from his coloring =) I look forward to reading everyone's posts and learning more about you and your piggies! -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com From daimajin2k4 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 13:07:05 2009 From: daimajin2k4 at yahoo.com (rodney barrick) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] G-force Message-ID: <579803.57725.qm@web54204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Has anyone seen G-force yet? I haven't, but believe me, I will. The number one movie in the country!! It's about time guinea pigs get the respect they deserve. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 27 14:07:19 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Welcome Tiffy and Smores:) Message-ID: <854676.26446.qm@web80202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A big welcome to you Tiffy and Smores?from Jean and Andy and the misfits:) The pigture of? little Smores is so darn tootin cute;) Look forward to hearing all about Smores:) Welcome again! Jean From janna at thehoskincentre.com Mon Jul 27 14:28:01 2009 From: janna at thehoskincentre.com (Janna Hoskin) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:28:01 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE: G-force Message-ID: I am desperate to see it, by my BF refuses because it will be ridiculous. I have tried pointing out that this is half the point, but no go. Is anyone on this list in Saskatoon? I don't know many people here yet, and the only person I have met so far who would probably enjoy the movie is the girl from the pet store (who was as excited as I was to learn that it is actually possible to have a capybara as a pet). I don't know how sane it is to ask a sales rep if they would like to see a movie with you, but I will do it if necessary! :D -Janna "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." Albert Camus "I want to remake the world; anything less is not worth the trouble." Karen Cushman On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:07 AM, rodney barrick wrote: > > Has anyone seen G-force yet? I haven't, but believe me, I will. The number > one movie in the country!! It's about time guinea pigs get the respect they > deserve. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gpdd mailing list > Gpdd at gpdd.org > http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org > > From d.quadakkers at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 15:31:24 2009 From: d.quadakkers at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Danni=EBlle?=) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:31:24 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE: G-force In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c16a6870907271231h15efa819v10c434ce20473bb4@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Ofcourse I want to see it! Hopefully it's possible to watch the original version here (I live in the south of the Netherlands) because I don't want to see the movie with Dutch speaking guinea pigs... That's because the only guinea pigs who can do that are mine ;-) Danni?lle, Meg and Mickey x 2009/7/27 Janna Hoskin > > I am desperate to see it, by my BF refuses because it will be ridiculous. I > have tried pointing out that this is half the point, but no go. Is anyone > on > this list in Saskatoon? I don't know many people here yet, and the only > person I have met so far who would probably enjoy the movie is the girl > from > the pet store (who was as excited as I was to learn that it is actually > possible to have a capybara as a pet). I don't know how sane it is to ask a > sales rep if they would like to see a movie with you, but I will do it if > necessary! :D > > -Janna > > "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be > normal." Albert Camus > "I want to remake the world; anything less is not worth the trouble." Karen > Cushman > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:07 AM, rodney barrick >wrote: > > > > > Has anyone seen G-force yet? I haven't, but believe me, I will. The > number > > one movie in the country!! It's about time guinea pigs get the respect > they > > deserve. > > From jocelynm at umich.edu Mon Jul 27 15:48:47 2009 From: jocelynm at umich.edu (Anderson, Jocelyn M) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:48:47 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Tiffy and S'mores Message-ID: <3AF9B038A6B07641B36C799ED4EBB0D7046CABC898@ITCS-ECLS-1-VS3.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu> Hi Tiffy and S'mores, What an adorable little piggy you have there! He looks very curious. Thank you for sharing your piggy pictures! I hope to see and hear more of the little guy. Jocelyn, Flashbang Fatbottom, Edgeworth, and Benito (who is quite the squeaker!) From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Jul 27 20:32:31 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:32:31 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT- Debbie's candle lighting Message-ID: <20090727.173231.23772.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Here is the final list. Please check it to make sure I have your info correct. If anything needs changed let me know. I would like to get the list posted to her memorial website Tue. or Wed. Here it is in alphabetical order: -Australia- Glynis- Croydon, Victoria, Australia Julie- Witta, Queensland -Canada- Joanne G.- Ontario Kirsten & the Critter Crew- Hamilton, Ontario -England- Penny- East Sussex M- South East Stefanie & The Surrey Squeakers- Camberley, Surrey -The Netherlands- Mikey & the Winky Girls + Chico- The Hague Janneke & The Winky Team- Haarlem -New Zealand- Suzy & Rocky- Auckland -Saskatchewan- Pat S.- Regina -United States- -California- Joanie- Penryn -Colorado- Kathy -Florida- Ann Evans- Tampa -Illinois- Jean & Andy- Moline -Indiana- Mary Ann, with Mocha, Skunky & James- Mishawaka -Maryland- Audrey & Gordon- Burtonsville -Nebraska- Birdie- LaVista -New York- Joanne & family- Mahopac Kathy- Ridge -North Carolina- Leah- Charlotte Cindy -Ohio- Alge- Logan -Oregon- Candy- McMinnville -Pennsylvania- Jaime- Willow Street Patty Crozier- Boiling Springs -Tennesee- Kacee & the Munchies- Franklin -Texas- Carla, Apache & Remy- Houston Marsha & the BeJabbers-Perryton ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Find DNA Testing Supplies Find DNA testing resources and more online. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=PNcxI9jYraKzouqjgys25QAAJ1DiI6TBn7f0PnFTVU4r_S72AAQAAAAFAAAAAAAAgD4AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB2AwAAAAAA== From zarafa101 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 14:59:12 2009 From: zarafa101 at yahoo.com (Stephanie Labbate) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] G-Force Message-ID: <938647.34575.qm@web62507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Yes...I saw "G-Force" on Friday - the day it opened here?in the U.S.! It's a very?FUN movie!??I can't say more because?I don't want to spoil it for anyone!? Most of the time the guinea pigs walk around on their hind legs, but when they do?walk on all four legs -- the animators did manage to capture the way they walk?VERY accurately! The theatre was very full -- so LOTS of people - especially kids are VERY interested in guinea pigs! ?Stephanie From faststats at faststatschecks.com Tue Jul 28 17:20:13 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:20:13 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] misc: G-Force Message-ID: <28B8F80C5A0D4A6EA63F88B55710AF37@MaryFran> I saw it (G-Force) on opening day by myself, and give it the thumbs up. Penelope Cruz is the girl piggie. Double feature with Harry Potter. Great day. --Mary Fran with G-Puff and Miss Muffet From rzm.2 at juno.com Tue Jul 28 19:47:57 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:47:57 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY- G-force Message-ID: <20090728.164757.9511.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> I plan to go see G-force next week when my husband has off. That's right, I said my *husband*!!! He owes me. I had to sit thru Terminator with him. That's 2 hours of my life I'll never get back!!! So now it's off to see G-force for him! ;) Has anyone found any good G-force websites? ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Looking for insurance? Compare and save today. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTInoKm2mUeaSHKfiEtVk7RalVAA0sdpzRl0kdfr2FSbOVCusrpxHi/ From bearkat1 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 08:09:19 2009 From: bearkat1 at yahoo.com (Carol Riley) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: New rescue pig and "G Force" Message-ID: <244795.23716.qm@web55807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, ? I adopted a sweetheart of a boy originally named Gizmo on July 15th.? It took a while, but now his name is Arthur (after Arthur Weasly of Harry Potter fame) due to his red hair.? He just wasn't a Ron or one of the other boys...anyway, he has a wonderful temperment and I am thankful a rescuer in the area had him available for me.? He's finally starting to wheek at my husband and I and loves to be petted.? He's laid back and curious at the same time.? I truly missed having a pig in the house and he's a perfect reason why pigs are just plain wonderful! ? My husband took me to see "G Force" as a belated birthday present.? It was fun.? The guinea pigs actually had 4 toes on the front legs and 3 on the back!? The ONLY thing I saw was one of them in a ball running which concerned me.? Hopefully, anyone seeing that won't get the wrong idea.....?My favorite line from the movie was actually from the three mice "Poop in his hand! Poop in his hand!"? For some reason, that just strikes me as funny. ? Hope all are well. ? Carol, new arrival Arthur pig, Oxford bunny, and Kaitlynn dog From jaaladog at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 29 12:28:01 2009 From: jaaladog at bellsouth.net (jaaladog) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:28:01 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Been away but back now Message-ID: <5B8A996E9BA048989686487A4AF39E94@Lynn> Hi folks, Just a quick note to let you know I didn't disappear. I had company for about a week and then, had some complications with my diabetes and had to go in the hospital. I'm out now and feeling much better so I'm going to sit down and try to do some reading on all the piggy adventures that I missed while sick. Hope they are all still sailing and having a high old time. Hugs and whisker kisses, Lynn, Samantha & Tabitha From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 14:19:12 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: new pig Message-ID: <576019.79598.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congrats, Carol, on your new little guy, Arthur! What does he look like? Enjoy! Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie In 100 years from now it will not matter what kind of car I drove or how much money I had in the bank but some lives may be better because I played an important role in making a difference for animals. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 16:49:34 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Athur Message-ID: <222730.61268.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A big Welcome to you Athur! I am sure you will be very spoiled with Carol! Enjoy the attention and love:)Look forward to hearing all about you:) Welcome From, Jean & Andy and the misfits From shanclan2003 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 16:27:04 2009 From: shanclan2003 at yahoo.com (Karen Brown) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [silly] G-Force Message-ID: <249141.18571.qm@web53905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Has anyone seen the movie?? A reporter wants to interview me since it's so popular.? Karen J. Brown gentle hands & kindly words petsitting Cavy Rescue New England From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jul 29 19:53:17 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:53:17 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY- G-force Message-ID: <20090729.165317.21165.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> I was disappointed (but not surprised) to see an ad in our local paper last night that said "Get your G-force guinea pigs now" and then listed 3 piggies for sale. I hope this doesn't start an epidemic of unwanted piggies in a few months. =( ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Missing Molly, Radar, Albert & Daisy~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here for great prices on high quality breast pumps! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTNpJp5QbK2fdSNFmmqR5hjQS6mD2wJmqUoN86nTwvN2rx65EdLl6o/ From tmacallister at musician.org Wed Jul 29 19:20:39 2009 From: tmacallister at musician.org (Tiffany MacAllister) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:20:39 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] G-force Message-ID: <20090729232039.45A021CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> I saw G-Force. It was funny at times and the animals were adorable, it had an okay plot but I think the meat of the movie could have been a little better. There were times when my attention was wandering. My real concern is the fact that thousands of kids will go out, get guinea pigs, probably not treat them right, then abandon them when they get tired in a few weeks. Every kids movie with animals sees this happening. People see something in a movie, they take it as fact. As someone else already mentioned, the pigs were in those wheels and I'm willing to bet the parents will not do the research and buy small cages, balls, wheels and whatever else is inappropriate for them. Not to mention many will be impulse buys. Taking their kids along to buy cat food and they see a GP "Mommy it's the G-force! Can I get one?" ?I feel for those poor piggers. To anyone who buys their kids a pig as a result of this movie but does the proper research first, -hugs-. -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 30 12:27:21 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge: Anastasia Message-ID: <866082.64259.qm@web80205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> With sadden heart I write this note to let you know of the passing of our dear little princess Anastasia from the Misfits this morning. Her daddy and I were right there with her crying like babies... telling her how much we loved her as she passed. She was the piggie I talked about that had a injury in her back that made it impossible for her to use her back legs. When we adopted this little princess, she had bumble feet and? long long nails... and she ?was a old piggie. We were told the people brought?her in as they wanted a "young" piggie instead..?Our vet?est her age to be 4 or 5.? She was beautiful as she had the most darkest eyes and she?had long hair that was black and white? like a skunk.? She was able to get along by using her front legs to pull herself where she wanted to go... but as time went on she lost that ability and?in time? she was only able to stay in one spot. That didn't stop her from giving and receiving love.. We took her everywhere with us... due to she needed to be syringed water. but was still able to eat by herself.. We would even take her to ball games to watch our son in law play. We would take our "bag" with all her goodies in it and away we went. She loved the attention and would sit with her head held high like a princess with her yellow bow in her hair:) We always say the time we have with our piggies is never enough... and I must say it again with our princess...The time just wasnt enough... She enjoyed sitting outside nibbling on the grass in front of her.. and when she would need to be "moved" she would turn and look at me like " ok mommie do your thing" she was a sweet heart...and we are sad to see her leave for the bridge. missing our princess, jean & andy (misfits) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 30 16:48:35 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC.: G Force model Message-ID: <460436.89994.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I actually got to meet Stella, the teddy piggie who posed for one of the characters in the movie. She lived with the movie makers for three months, and they studied her movement and?anatomy?to get things?right. Stella?was already?a show pig (as in the show ring), by the way. Jet black, very mellow, and unaffected by her three months of fame. And she had the densest hair I've ever felt. It was an honor to meet her. My twenty-one-year-old son is taking me to the movie for my birthday. I'll make my report as soon as possible. Joanie From bunzella at yahoo.ca Thu Jul 30 22:13:02 2009 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Anastasia Message-ID: <34352.35729.qm@web112613.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Jean and Andy and all the Misfits, I was so sad to hear of the passing of the spirited and regal Princess Anastasia. What a lucky girl she was to find her way to you just when she needed a helping hand to live out her life in happiness and dignity! I wanted to thank you, too, for taking the time to remind us of her wonderful and uplifting story, even though I can imagine it would have been very hard to tell it with the loss so recent. It's a fitting tribute to Princess Anastasia's life and her place in yours. (I always feel as if these announcements on GPDD are a bit like a human funeral and the telling of everypig's life story like the eulogy --- they all deserve to have their stories told and even though the end is sad, I love hearing how they all came in their various ways to find love in the hands of their devoted slaves...) Pat S. (slave to Doris, Audrey & Olivia) __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 30 22:15:34 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC.: G Force Message-ID: <516982.91244.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I saw the movie and really enjoyed it. It was replete with humor, adventure, suspense, surprises, and tenderness--everything anypig would want in a movie. The animation was excellent, and the characters were loveable and believable. I cringed every time a piggie fell, though,?remembering the horror of having Hershey squirm out of my hand so many times. I would've loved to have seen more swagger in the males and heard a purr or wheek escape on occasion. It would've captured even more of the native cuteness of the piggies. And they might've been tempted to snatch at the grass during the lawn scene. Overall, it was a movie I'll have to buy. Hershey will love it, no doubt! One of my all time favorite animals is the mole. How sweet to see two favorite animals together. I even have a mole collection along with my GP collection. Is that weird or what??? ? Joanie From bearkat1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 30 22:18:26 2009 From: bearkat1 at yahoo.com (Carol Riley) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: More on Arthur and "G Force" Message-ID: <306840.24787.qm@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Thanks all for the congrats...it certainly was very hollow in the home without wheeking... ? Arthur is mostly a red haired short haired American pig.? He does have some white and brown in him, hence my husband's comment "We can call him Art for short - he's got enough color on him."? He is a good sized boy - I am guessing about 2 pounds or so.? He does have an odd, yet funny, habit.? He loves cucumber peels!? I'll put a slice or two in the cage and he will eat all of the peel off first, then eat the middle - kind of the opposite of an oreo cookie.? ? A quick note on kids now possibly wanting guinea pigs after seeing "G Force" ... the local Petsmart does sell guinea pigs - for $40.00 each.? I think the price alone will hopefully be a deterrent. ? Hope all slaves and pigs are doing well. ? Carol, Arthur pig, Oxford rabbit, and Kaitlynn dog ? From tmacallister at musician.org Fri Jul 31 12:49:11 2009 From: tmacallister at musician.org (Tiffany MacAllister) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:49:11 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [misc] G-Force and Anastasia Message-ID: <20090731164911.56113BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> As for the price being a deterrent to impulsive Guinea Pig buys, I think it will be more of a deterrent to a good lifestyle. With a price that high, a few weeks of chores will be enough to get most parents to buy one, but they would probably never think to get it a buddy for while their kids are at school or out to play. A $40 pig is one thing, but two for $80? Same will probably go for a big enough cage. They have those cheap "Guinea Pig Starter Kits" with a small cage and all kinds of other stuff. ?Jean and Andy, ?Sorry to hear about your girl! She sounded like a model lap pig. What a wonderful story, and I'm sorry she has left. But remember, she'll always be in your hearts (as cliche as that sounds.) -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750 See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! at Freecreditreport.com From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 31 14:21:50 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Sweet Anastasia Message-ID: <78448.14970.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What an inspiration the Princess has been. Her positive outlook, I'm sure, came from being loved so thoroughly and not being discarded for being?"defective." It gives us all something to aspire to in loving our own piggies. I'm sorry she had to go, but can't help but picture her trying out her new legs with unfathomable joy. Please accept my condolences. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jul 31 16:45:33 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:45:33 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Anastasia Message-ID: Jean and Andy, I was so sorry to read that Anastasia has left you for the Rainbow Bridge. When older piggies come to live at Piggyfriends, I always wish that I had had them as babes so that I could enjoy them for longer but whatever time they are here with me it is never enough. It is such a shame that the Potter's tablets did not help Anastasia as they did my Diamond. One becomes even more attached to the ones that need our special help and the memories of taking Anastasia around with you will stay with you forever. I have had piggies that travelled everywhere with me and I think that the saddest part of losing them is when I turn up for work without my carrier and portable pen and have to explain to my clients why my invalid is no longer with me. I am glad that Anastasia shared some wonderful times with you both as one of the precious Misfits. Our sincere condolences on her passing. R.I.P. little princess. Safe at the Rainbow Bridge, free from pain and able to run about with all of your friends. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jul 31 17:07:18 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:07:18 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC G.Force Message-ID: <8758FF6A3BB04B5F880484A632431701@inspiron1150> I haven't seen the movie so I cannot comment on its contents but I am very concerned about the impact that it will have on the impressionable children who will see it and want guinea pigs without a thought as to their care. I have seen a trailer which shows piggies travelling around in balls so I can imagine unscrupulous pet stores selling large hamster balls with the intention of them being used for piggies, resulting in nasty injuries. Who remembers the Ninja Turtles films, when every child wanted to own a "turtle"? In England, tiny terrapins were being sold in pet shops everywhere. The owners probably did not realise how large these terrapins would grow or how unsuitable they were as pets. Consequently many of them were discarded and my local animal rescue centre has dozens of them filling a large pond in their grounds. They are unlikely ever to be rehomed and cost the centre a lot to maintain as our climate is unsuitable for them to winter outside and they have to be kept in a heated pool during the coldest months. No-one enjoys cleaning out the pond as it gets very smelly, the terrapins can bite and they can carry salmonella. The producers of those films have a lot to answer for. I have printed out a lot of the fliers that GuineaLynx have designed, explaining the difference between the G Force piggies and real ones. These are on display in Reception at the centre and at my local petshop ( which I patronise for the very reason that it does not sell pets ). My son maintains the website for the rescue and he has asked to be allowed to add a piece about the movie in the hope of preventing an influx of piggies in a few months time. Penny and the Piggyfriends.