From pandameisje at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 12:52:10 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:52:10 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Toby's teeth Message-ID: Hello everyone, First we all want to wish you a happy new year!! May this new year bring lots of fresh veggies, sick piggies getting better and maybe even more friends here on the digest. Whee are looking forward to this year, Guiny should turn to SCAMPS age in a few months. Woopy will turn one, and Dunya will already turn three years old. We hope the boys get to stay, at least they will be here for another months since they too have to be treated for mites... We want to thank all the kind people on the Gpdd who mailed our slave about Toby's teeth and Guiny's fur. She was pretty sure having his teeth fixed would be unnecessary and you've just acknowledged that. Yesterday our slaves checked on Toby's teeth again and his top teeth that had broken off, are gone... So he cannot hurt himself anymore by touching something with the loose teeth. And we are happy to report the teeth seem to be growing back fast...! Our vet said we should get back in 10 days or longer to see how the teeth are doing, but if all goes well and his teeth are even, we're probably not bothering him by that. I think Toby will really soon be able to eat again on his own! I haven't seen much change in Guiny's fur yet, but it probably takes a few days... the shedding does seem to be a bit less... but i could be mistaken... I'll keep Cindy's remark in mind, since she did use to have blakc flakes, but now it seems to be mostly white... But if she doesn't improve...i might want to try that. The vet we saw did not seem to know a lot about Guinea pigs. She was adoring Toby's nice greyish/silver agouti fur, she had never seen it before...she did not seem to know how quick guinea pig teeth grow back... And when looking at Guiny she was alerted by the bald spots behind her ears.... I don't know but aren't bald spots behind ears sort of normal for guinea pigs? Guinea lynx says it is... Just makes you wonder how much this vet knew about guinea pigs.... We were wondering however wether age and (hair) type influence how big the bald spots can be? Guiny who is smoothhaired had pretty big bald spots, Dunya (also smoothhaired and younger) has them too but smaller and Toby also has them but even smaller (also smoothhaired and even younger). Chico and Woopy don't seem to be having that big bald spots, but both are younger than a year (or maybe just over in chico's case) but this could be because of their fur being rex and teddy the hair just stands out en seems to cover most of the bald spots... How is it with your piggies? do this have big or small bald pots behind their ears? and does it differ with age or hair type? Best wishes, ow, and just want to point you guys at our website, I think I mentioned it before: www.guinygirlz.nl (just click on the winkygang banner) there you can read up on all of professor Igor's PLAY's so far... or see Suus and Dunya's city trip to the Hague. We plan to make more, but will wait till weather gets better, it's very cold here right now... I know Janneke is still correcting the PLAY's i've translated, so more are on the way!! Lots of Wheeks and piggy kisses, The Winky girls: Guiny, Dunya and Woopy the Shelter boys: Chico and Toby and slave Mikey -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com m.staaks at pecoma.nl Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From jocelynm at umich.edu Thu Jan 1 17:47:35 2009 From: jocelynm at umich.edu (Anderson, Jocelyn M) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Happy New Year to All! Message-ID: <3AF9B038A6B07641B36C799ED4EBB0D78DE666@ITCS-ECLS-1-VS3.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu> Little John, Flashbang Fatbottom, and myself would like to wish all you wonderful and amazing people and piggies a very Happy New Year! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/3156374261_d430af3663.jpg Jocelyn From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jan 1 18:50:53 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:50:53 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Bald spots behind ears. Message-ID: <5E2DEB0E5E854E2F957A220BC95AF301@inspiron1150> Hi Mieke, Glad to read that Toby's teeth are mending already. I hope that you have a more competent vet in case of any future problems as this one definitely does not know her piggies. All piggies have a bald spot of varying size behind their ears. It is more noticeable on some piggies than others depending on the way that their coat lies and also the shape of their ears. I always tell people that this is a special place to kiss a cavy and, having just looked at GuineaLynx, I am delighted to see that they agree with me. Good luck with Guiny's coat. I just had another look at the "piggies" trip to the Hague. This is such fun and would make a lovely little book. Gelukkig NieuwJaar ( hope that's right ) Penny and the Piggyfriends. From KSkosich at msn.com Thu Jan 1 21:23:13 2009 From: KSkosich at msn.com (J D) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:23:13 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] misc: condolences to Grace, Mike, Carly, Corrine Message-ID: I have been reading weeks of back issues of the Digest and I was shocked to see all the losses for 2008. My sympathies to Grace for the loss of Pork Chop, Corrine for the loss of Mini, Carly for the loss of Emma and Mike for the sad year of five losses, Buster, Emily, Daisy, Miss P and Stella. I am sure I have missed some people, but please know that all the Digest readers are thinking of you at this time. Kathy S (with Millie bloodhound, cats Shaggy and Larry Lynx, piggies Pookah-Darryl and Ginger Jellyroll) From liz_kennedy at hotmail.com Thu Jan 1 23:51:27 2009 From: liz_kennedy at hotmail.com (liz_kennedy at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:51:27 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Liz's Piggy Set Up In-Reply-To: <915085.55661.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <915085.55661.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the wonderful compliments Joanne! The spare cage I have is about 6 inches lower than my C&C, so I just made a ramp out of extra cubes and connected the 2 cages with zip ties. I basically have a rounded one going from the C&C and then connected to a flat one to go down into the spare cage, so it sort of looks like an upside down "J". I put some rolled fleece on the bottom of both sides of the ramp to make it even easier to climb over. At first no one used the loft or the ramp to the spare cage. I was really afraid no one would ever use either, but eventually all but 2 pigs figured out how to easily use the ramp into the extra cage, and 5 piggies frequent the loft (though really Willa has claimed it for her own sanctuary). Dot won't use either ramps, but I think she has some trouble seeing due to her cataracts (she's around 7), so I'm sure the heights make her a little uncomfortable. Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:55:11 -0800From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.comSubject: Misc: Liz's Piggy Set UpTo: gpdd at gpdd.orgCC: liz_kennedy at hotmail.com Hi Liz!Thank you so much for the pictures of your set up. I really appreciate you taking the time to post them. It's great! It looks like your piggies have everything they could ever wish for! I want to jump into that huge pile of hay myself!!! The idea of using the cage you already had is great...I have thought to do that myself, but somehow just wasn't sure how to do it. How did you attach it to your existing C&C? As for the loft, I think if I was one of your piggies, that's where you'd find me. It is so cute and cozy!Lucky piggies! I wish every pig could live in such luxury!Thanks again for the pictures.Joanne and her crew of 6 Happy 2009! _________________________________________________________________ It?s the same Hotmail?. If by ?same? you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 From pals4pets at cheerful.com Fri Jan 2 04:22:42 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:22:42 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Broken teeth Message-ID: <20090102092242.9C3F91059C@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> I remember Zebra broke both his upper front teeth gnawing on the bars of his cage when I experimentally put his cage in with those of the girls for company some years ago. I panicked because I remembered reading somewhere that if one set were broken, the other set would overgrow and one would have a permanent malocclusion problem. I have no access to anyone here who can trim teeth, so that would be a disaster for me. So I contacted Cavies Castle, and the rodentologists there advised me to trim the 2 lower teeth with a nail clipper, to about the same length as the broken upper teeth. Luckily my daughter was here at the time, and she has spent some time with Chris and Tich so was more confident about it than I would have been if I were on my own. Anyway, we did this, and of course had to hand feed Zebra his veggies whilst waiting for the teeth to regrow, but within a week or so his teeth were back to normal. I'm surprised Penny hasn't mentioned this, as I know she has a lot more experience than me, both of piggies in general and of the expert rodentologists at Cavies Castle. Maybe I have mis-remembered something? But it does seem logical, doesn't it, that if piggie teeth are growing all the time (which we know they are), and they need to be nibbling hay all the time to keep them from overgrowing, then if they are unable to nibble hay for any reason, the teeth will overgrow. If the bottom ones overgrow into the space normally occupied by the missing top ones, then when the top ones start growing back, they will not be able to resume their normal positions, and thus may grow inside or outside their usual place, thus making it impossible, or at least very difficult, for the piggie to cut/bite with its teeth. It has always stuck in my mind what the rodentologists told me when my dear departed Red Dandy was dying. Yes, his teeth had needed trimming, but in his case, as in the greater proportion of piggies with overgrown teeth, he had had another, underlying problem first which had made him stop eating because he was feeling sore. The stopping eating made the teeth overgrow, which then made it more difficult for him to eat, which then exacerbated whatever the original problem was. So I am paranoid about teeth now!! I do hope Toby makes a speedy and full recovery. Under no circumstances let the vet remove his teeth!! HAPPY NEW YEAR, everyone - or "BONNE ANNEE" as they say here in France. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From Algernon07 at aol.com Fri Jan 2 05:06:28 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 05:06:28 EST Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Hershey's earlier timidity Message-ID: Hi Hershey, We hear that you've become quite the brave and outgoing piggy. We're certain it would have happened anyway, without any encouragement from us, but we do like to think that perhaps we helped at least a little bit. Us pirates you know, we love to be praised and appreciated your lovely comments. Always at your command, The Jolly Rodent Piggy Pirate Crew ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From juwles at bigpond.com Fri Jan 2 08:04:02 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:04:02 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE Condolences to Mike In-Reply-To: <9D8C7B0B899F49CC99D2CE5F47E6514B@inspiron1150> References: <9D8C7B0B899F49CC99D2CE5F47E6514B@inspiron1150> Message-ID: <9035FB11F2414EA48F7666A03B2DCDCB@JuliePC> ----- Dear Mike I'm so sorry to read of your loss of your five precious babies. What a sad way to start the New Year, my heart goes out to you at your loss. It's hard enough to cope with 1 death, but 5 babies going to the Bridge must be close to impossible for you to cope with. Please know that there are so many piggy lovers around the world saying prayers for you to find some comfort in your loss. My heart and prayers are with you, and I hope you find some peace & comfort following your piggies going to greener pastures, soon. Warm regards Julie, and her 4 precious boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba) with Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Angus, Brandy forever with me in my heart & soul From juwles at bigpond.com Fri Jan 2 08:06:37 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:06:37 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health, Toby's teeth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FFCC3719F8C497196BF756551B17D27@JuliePC> Hi Mieke Please don't let the vet put Toby under anaesthetic for his teeth. You will be amazed how quickly they grow back. Whilst they are growing, you could try syringe feeding him some critical care, and even syringe feeding him some vitamised vegetables. As Cindy said, you might be able to cut the food into very fine strips, and actually help him by putting the food past his front incisors to the back molars, which is actually where they do all their chewing anyway. My very first piggy decided to go for a jump and ended up breaking one top incisor off. The vet told me not to worry, and within 2 weeks (possibly less because my memory is failing a bit after 7 years of the event), he was back eating normally, even with the smallest bit of incisors having grown back through the gums. Malaseb is called the same downunder in Australia, and if Guiny has a mite or lice problem, I've used Selsun shampoo which Peter Gurney's website recommends. It's always worked for me, but be careful to not use too much of the shampoo on a piggy, they only need a small dab of shampoo into the middle of your palm. Kind regards Julie and her 4 precious boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey and Kimba) with Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie & Brandy forever in my heart & soul From Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com Fri Jan 2 12:06:51 2009 From: Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com (Schumann, Jan) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: teeth AND another SCAMPS member Message-ID: <97D9DEF598590A4C9466AE49E94D4546040A205F@KMHPEXSC20.kmhp.com> My boy Zathras has knocked out his front teeth twice! The vet calls him the Wonder Pig because his teeth have grown back perfectly both times. Wait until the teeth come back before you decide to do anything about them. They may come back as perfectly as Zathras' teeth have! Speaking of my big boy, I am declaring him 5 years old since he was a rescue and I don't know is real age. Please put him on the SCAMPS list. Way to go boy-o! Jan Mom to Tribble, Zathras, and Leela Lokai in my heart Jan Schumann Medical Affairs Data Analyst Select Health of South Carolina PO Box 40849 Charleston, SC 29423-0849 843.569.4847 p. 888.824.7788 f. www.selecthealthofsc.com Mission: We help people get care, stay well and build healthy communities ============================================================================== CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic mail or its contents by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. ============================================================================== From MFug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 2 12:25:48 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:25:48 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; Chatroom Message-ID: Hi all, just to let you know the chatroom is experiencing problems at the moment, yesterday we couldnt get in at all and today it is going straight into a support chatroom, where anyone who is trying to get to their own chatroom is ending up. If you click in and its full off strange people you are in the support room. I am hoping they will fix the problem and we will be able to use it normally soon, in the mean time just keep trying and see what happens M From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Jan 2 15:43:44 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:43:44 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- bald spots Message-ID: <20090102.124344.4413.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Mieke- All piggies I've ever seen have some form of a bald spot behind their ears. I think it's normal. Mimi says "wheek" to a fellow agouti! Can you send us a pic of her so we can see her? There aren't any agouti piggies around where I live. Mimi was the first one I've ever seen. Take care! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~(& Holli too!) ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Smell Sexy! Top Perfumes. Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2rDg4ox2vMCV0vGgSMCZdNxTLMcEKcHs4ac8z4HDFSNXcUW/ From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 2 16:56:54 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:56:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Hershey's getting braver Message-ID: <694314.11638.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hershey and I spent New Year's Eve watching Carrot Wars. She hid inside her basket during the scary parts, but watched nonetheless. It's safe to say we both enjoyed the movie! She sure has made tremendous progress. It's a joy to watch. Yesterday she gently put her paws on my face. Awwww... Joanie From matildalucet at earthlink.net Fri Jan 2 22:22:28 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:22:28 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Broken teeth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <102C4157-6578-46E7-A0AD-9504EF8EC994@earthlink.net> Mr. Mike T. Pig broke one of his lower incisors sometime near Christmas. We noticed him having trouble eating carrots a couple of days before and took him to his vet on the 26th. It was cracked quite badly at the gum line. His vet thought the best thing to do would be to trim it and let it grow back in. He was given injectable sedation and then isofluorane. I think if there is ever a next time, I will ask that he not get the injectable because he was groggy for quite a while, hours even, and it was scary for us. We saw the tooth and it was chisel shaped on the tip (normal) and where it had cracked almost off (not normal). I'd worry about him swallowing it, so clipping it seemed good. Because it was right at the gum line and the gum line now had an opening, he's on antibiotic to prevent infection. He had Metacam for five days for pain, and we've been giving him Benebac a few hours after the antibiotic to try to keep up the good gut flora. The tooth is growing back, albeit slowly. The gum is kind of ugly. He eats a little hay on his own and romaine and parsley, though more of the greens if he is hand fed. He refuses carrot and pepper, pushing them out with his tongue. Pffft! He has just decided cucumber bits are tasty again. He has been on Critical Care since the trimming to try to keep his weight up. The last day or two, he has been trying to get out of that, too. Today, he dribbled out some of his antibiotic. That sneaky pig! I'm glad he's opinionated again, but I wish getting the meds to stay in was easier. -ginger co-slave, with Steve, to Mr. Mike T. Pig From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jan 3 08:05:53 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:05:53 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Piggyfriends say "Thankyou" Message-ID: <24D4CD7CA575404E8C05DE18C193B6E7@inspiron1150> Gulliver Piggyfriend here. The mailman has just arrived with a pile of bills for our Slave and more cards for us. How exciting! We have a lovely card from Auntie Glynis with a picture of koala bears. They look so cuddly and a lot like our Roscoe. Slave says that she once saw koalas in San Diego Zoo a long time ago. Thank you very much Auntie Glynis. Slave says that she would love to make cards with our pigtures but she doesn't think that we would sit still in a row. Maybe a few at a time next year. Maybe....... Next there is a pretty card from our Secret Santa, Evelyn, all the way from Canada. This has a picture of a polar bear and a penguin. It is so cold outside here that we expect to see polar bears any day now. Our grass is frozen so our Slave cannot cut any for us this morning. Thank you very much Evelyn! Then we have a New Year card from Donna and the S.C. piggies together with a calendar with a pigture of Thatcher, Aunt Polly and Big Jim. They are wrapped up in their cosies, the best place to be an a cold day like this. I wonder if Slave could learn how to make a calendar of us. She always says "So many pigs,so little time". We will have to nag. Thank you very much Donna. Thank you to everyone and everypig who sent us cards. Slave will fasten them to our pens so that we can all share them ( but not nibble them as she puts them up high ). Hope pushed her sleeping box close to the wire, jumped on it and munched her name card so her group will have to look at the cards on the pen next door. Her little friends, Petunia and Peony, copy her and jump on the boxes too. They learnt this from me as I like to sleep on top of my box but I would not nibble anything that was not food so Roscoe and I have Sarah's card for ourselves. Roscoe doesn't jump as he is too fat. Lots of love and piggy kisses to everyone and everypig from Gulliver on behalf of all the Piggyfriends. xxxxxxxxxxx Hope says that I should not have typed that as only girl piggies can send kisses to "everypig". I stand corrected. The Piggyfriend girls can send kisses to the boys and I ( on behalf of the Piggyfriend boars ) can send kisses to the girls . O.K. Hope? Good. Now members can get on with the rest of the messages. From godfreys at paulbunyan.net Sat Jan 3 09:19:01 2009 From: godfreys at paulbunyan.net (godfreys) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:19:01 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] Secret Santa ThankYou Message-ID: <495F73D5.8070800@paulbunyan.net> This is VERY late in coming and we apolagize!! We had a very long Christmas at our house with people coming and going at various times. But we really, really, really want to Thank Joanie and Reese for our wonderful Christmas gifts. I think Lucy's favoite so far is the "Tamale", she could hardly wait for me to take it out of the package! She is also adjusting to her new colorful stick house although that took a few days becasue it was just to new for her. Thank You! Thank You! and we hope you all had a great Christmas! Ann & Lucy From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Sat Jan 3 13:30:18 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:30:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Santa Pig Message-ID: <41401.88671.qm@web50512.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, This is Miss Perky, and I want to let everyone know that momma finally got to the mail box to pick up my Pigmas gift. I want to thank Gingerpugg and Miss Mufftet for the Apple Strudels treats that I recieved. Momma Slave liked the M&M Candy too. I am sharing my treats with Miss Pooky since she didn't get anything yet. I offered some to Spunky but they weren't to his liking. He very paticualar and sometimes doesn't eat what Momma Slave gives him either. Anyway thanks again. Love to you all and Mary Fran too. ? Miss Perky From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 3 17:11:37 2009 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:11:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Lizzy Message-ID: <962418.55359.qm@web46403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi I think bald spots behind the ears are normal because Lizzy my piggy has that too. And speaking of Lizzy her shedding stopped finally after I cleaned my room, her cage, and her pen. Is this heathy? I clean her ccage every week and I clean her pen every week. I've been doing this after I had her for a year and now she is 3 and will be 4 in April. I've been busy and I meant to send this out Happy New year and Merry Christmas. Lizzy got a blanket for Christmas and loves it if you want to see a pigture of it e-mail me. guineapig97 at yahoo.com . Thanks, ?? Katie and Lizzy From kaplans at peoplepc.com Sat Jan 3 17:47:47 2009 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:47:47 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Mics: what is SCAMPS? References: Message-ID: <002901c96df5$4e173a50$c11df304@stephensucks> Hi Everyone. I have been wondering what SCAMPS means for a while now. Can anyone tell me? Not know in Oregon Sarah and the piggy gang ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Gpdd Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 > Send Gpdd mailing list submissions to > gpdd at gpdd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gpdd-request at gpdd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gpdd-owner at gpdd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gpdd digest..." > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The GPDD moderators frequently reject messages that do not follow > these guidelines: > A lack of a Topic label is the most common reason for message rejection. > Please use a Topic Label (HEALTH, CARE, ANNOUNCEMENT, RAINBOW BRIDGE, > BEHAVIOR,PETER GURNEY, RESCUE, BREEDING, SILLY, PIGLETS, MISC. or > VIRTUAL) and DESCRIPTIVE SUBJECT. 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Health: teeth AND another SCAMPS member (Schumann, Jan) > 2. misc; Chatroom (M) > 3. HEALTH- bald spots (Jaime) > 4. ANNOUNCEMENT: Hershey's getting braver (GARY HESS) > 5. Re: HEALTH: Broken teeth (Ginger Fitzsimmons) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Gpdd mailing list > Gpdd at gpdd.org > http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org > From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jan 4 08:04:30 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:04:30 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; new chatroom Message-ID: As you may know by now, we are having problems with the chatroom it is still not sorted. Here is our new chatroom http://xat.com/piggypeople This has more features than the last one, but Glynis has confirmed it is easy to use. Look forward to seeing you there M From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Sun Jan 4 08:46:25 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:46:25 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC]: Did our secret santa receive thier parcel safely? Message-ID: Dear piggie friend BG and Artie sent you some hay, nibbles and a guinea pig mug for your slave before Christmas as secret santa gifts, but we've heard nothing and were worried your parcel may not have reached you. Please let us know. One of you cheeky chaps was called Marmite. Please let us know you received your parcel safely. Many thanks BG, Artie and Carole From pandameisje at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 13:40:24 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:40:24 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Care: SCAMPS and LAPS Message-ID: Dear Sarah, You asked what SCAMPS are. This is from the SCAMPS website I manage: The idea for SCAMPS was born Please find below the first post on the GPDD about SCAMPS: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:42:46 EST From: DebJonSara at aol.com Subject: [Gpdd] [CARE]: Anyone for SCAMPS? To: gpdd at gpdd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There are only 12 Dolly Mixtures left now, and Fidget has been losing weight steadily for weeks, in spite of a healthy appetite and regular worming. He would be 5 on 3rd February next year, but somehow I doubt he'll make it. Scarecrow and Soulage were rescued as teenagers on 8th January 2003, so I think could be deemed as sharing their birthday with Jesus - I am so hoping they'll make it to 5. Sable was rescued unweaned with her mother the same day, so could maybe celebrate her 5th birthday on 7th January. I was wondering whether we could have a "virtual club" for piggies aged over 5 years? I thought SCAMPS might be a suitable title - Senior Citizens Ageing Miracle Piggies Society. None of the Dolly Mixtures could belong yet, but I know from replies to my previous posting that there are already a lot of SCAMPS out there - what do they and their slaves think? We could share tips for Care of the Elderly, and anecdotes etc. A still grieving Debbie and her dozen Dolly Mixtures Read more about it on: http://scamps-gpdd.blogspot.com/ There is also a LAPS group for large piggies of 3 lbs and over, they also have a site. Unfortunately it has not been updated for quite some time: http://cavies-laps.blogspot.com/ Hope this explains things. SCAMPS can still be added to the pages. If you want to enter your piggies, send me an email and attach photo of the SCAMP if you have one digitally and write some lines about your SCAMPS. Also SCAMPS that have gone over the rainbow bridge can be added. Lots of Wheeks, Mikey and the winky girls and shelter boys: Guiny, Dunya and Woopy (the girls) and Chico and Toby (the boys) -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Sun Jan 4 15:34:14 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:34:14 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- Mimi has something in her eye Message-ID: <20090104.123414.20957.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com> When I was holding Mimi today I noticed that it looked like she has something in her eye. I was under the light in the kitchen so I could see very clearly. It looks like a piece of fuzz or that she possibly scratched her eye. Is there anyway I can rinse the eye to see if I can get it out? Then I would know if it was fuzz or if she needs to go to the vet. Could I fill a syringe with water & try to rinse it? She blinks it every now & then, like it annoys her, but doesn't seem to be in any pain. Any suggestions would be very appreciated. Thanks! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~(& Holli too!) ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click to get a free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2PNPKfEoMo3j3NgRrWTFwmzFLNuYtLACUFWWQoU1RuUSeX8/ From kaplans at peoplepc.com Sun Jan 4 23:41:52 2009 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:41:52 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] [Care] fleece on cage bottoms. Message-ID: <88DABD15891D4DD592943697E35D7303@stephensucks> Hi everyone, I need some help. I have a piggy that needs to get onto some fleece due to a health condition. How do those that use fleece keep the pigs from burrowing under it. What do you use for potty corners. and any other help you can give me will be very appreciated. Thanks Sarah From Algernon07 at aol.com Mon Jan 5 03:44:42 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:44:42 EST Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Thank you! Message-ID: Dear Secret Santa Piggies, We wrote to your mommies (Jan S. and Dawnda) when our packages arrived but we haven't written to thank you, our Secret Santa Piggies, for the wonderful gifts once Chrsitmas came and we finally got to open them. We are very sorry. We love everything and momma liked her giftees, too. She's still wearing her Christmas pin since she didn't open our boxes early. We sure are gonna stay snug and warm this winter in our new cozies and we both love the tunnel -- and the treats! We will write a more detailed note sooon but right now we can hardly keep our eyes open -- which is saying something for a piggy. Alge claims to be even more tired than us, though we don't see how that can be. However, we (and she) may have Christmas cards that haven't been opened. The mail got mixed in with the magazines and she ony realized that today. Also, Katie, we would love to see a picture of Lizzie and her Chrsitmas blanket. Please email us a picture. Also, what is Lizzie's SAC # again? We would like to stop by and see her and leave a vote but we've forgotten where to find her. Happy New Year Everyone. Capt'n Jack and Barnacle Bill, the Jolly Rodent Piggy Pirate Crew ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Mon Jan 5 11:26:11 2009 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:26:11 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: THANK YOU, Secret Santa!!! Message-ID: Dear Zathras! I just wanted to THANK YOU for my Awesome cozy tunnel. My Slave has it sort of hanging from our play pen so we can run through it or hide in it at our leisure. I LOVE it!!! But, the funny thing is that my brother, Bertie Pig Loves it even More. He has sort of claimed it as his own. And he's a silly boy so I let him pretend like it's his...but it's really MINE...Wheeeek! Again, Thank You for my secret santa pressie!!! I hope that you and your Family had a lovely Holiday Season... Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeps, Princess Snowflake :-) From magbfouts at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 12:40:09 2009 From: magbfouts at gmail.com (Maren Fouts) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:40:09 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Mimi's eye Message-ID: Jaime, Charlie got a small piece of hay in his eye not too long back and it did get scratched. I, fortunately, had an appointment for a check up in a couple of days so I went out and got eyedrops that are supposed to be just like tears to flush his eye. I had gotten the hay out (with my fingers) but he still seemed uncomfortable. The drops really seemed to help him. My vet said they were just fine to use for piggies. It's called "Refresh Tears Lubricant Eye Drops". I wouldn't use straight water as that has many minerals in it that could harm her eye further. You should probably have her to the vet in case she did scratch her eye. She could develop an infection from it. Charlie had 2 eye drops. One for pain and the other was an antibiotic. I used them for about a week. Good Luck! Piggy Kisses, Maren, the freshly healed Charlie, and Kaylee From christina.daniels.smith at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 12:58:02 2009 From: christina.daniels.smith at gmail.com (Christina Smith) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:58:02 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Secret Santa Thank-yous Message-ID: <331eac0b0901050958x353fc3b5i73c148ba5bcb01dd@mail.gmail.com> Mimi & Jaime- Wheek. Thank-you so much for all the goodies!!! My Slaves goodies looked yummy, but mine were for sure. My slave made me, imagine that a slave making ... (sigh), share with Shady. At first we thought the herbs were weird smelling, but after awhile we decided they tasted just fine. We are not so sure about the other treats, but we do keep sniffing them. The wood pieces sure brighten up our cage. Also thank you for the extra large sleeping bag, there is enough room for both of us!!! ~..~ I hope y'all continue having a Happy New Year! -Simon Jan and Tribble- Wheek!!! We have never seen a collapsible tunnel before!!! It is the coolest. Yeah, I have to share with Simon, but that is okay. Every time our slaves look at us we hide in the tunnel, but somehow they can still find us! Is there a window I have not noticed, or is it our happy squeeks that give us away? We like to run through, then popcorn, and repeat. It is also great to sleep in. Sometimes we are butt to butt, so we can both look out, and other times we are side-by-side so we look like one mutant piggy! Wheek. My slave is going to try and make some more! We can not wait. She says some of them will be for other piggies, but we might have to test them all out! She also says thank-you for the magic glasses. We wanted to use them, but they were waaaay too big! I hope y'all continue having a Happy New Year! -Shady From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 5 17:20:38 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:20:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Fleece tips Message-ID: <375654.3409.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey, Sarah, I'm no expert, but have been using fleece for several months now. I sewed the first layer of fleece to a large bathtowel, which she peels back, but have another couple layers of fleece under that, followed by two bath towels and newspaper. Sounds like a lot of work, but it isn't really. I suppose you could use large stones to hold the edges down if that doesn't work for your would-be mole. Or maybe provide a mutually?acceptible tunnel like a Quaker's Oats box? It's really hard being as resourceful as our piggies. That's why we gpdd folks need each other. ? Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 5 17:27:56 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:27:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] BEHAVIOR: Hershey nipped! Message-ID: <497626.25161.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It was bound to happen. Hershey was eager for treats and cuddle time. She explored my hands, which smelled of lamb (should have been a deterrent to an herbivore, I would think), and then gave me enough of a bite to elicit a small yelp (didn't break the skin, fortunately). I gently pushed her away, but she was undeterred. I'm afraid if I'd left my hand in there I might've gotten bitten again. In dealing with a piggie who has had fear issues, I'm not sure what to do. I'd like to approach this from a piggie perspective. What would a piggie do if it were nipped? She has been so gentle up til now, and if she wanted to really hurt me, she would have, so I don't think she was necessarily being aggressive. Suggestions? I don't want this to become a habit, but I don't want to discourage her curiousity and outgoing behavior either. Nippedly, Joanie From bunzella at yahoo.ca Mon Jan 5 13:47:49 2009 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:47:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Secret Santa Thanks Message-ID: <619938.54232.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, This was my first year participating in "Secret Santas" and the girls (Doris, Audrey and Olivia) and I had such a great time! We had a lot of fun shopping for gifts for our Secret Santa piggies; I was responsible for the actual ordering and packaging, but I must admit I could not have done it without their generous advice and constructive criticism. Then, a week before Christmas, a huge brightly decorated parcel arrived on the doorstep addressed to "Doris, Audrey and Olivia" --- they were SOOOO excited. To be honest, they don't get much mail, and I think they would have been happy just to have a big colourful box with their names on it... But they couldn't resist opening just a teeny corner and peeking inside --- Well! It turned out to be FULL of piggie treats and presents (even some for their long-suffering slave)! I was forced to take charge and dole out the treasures one by one; I'm sure there was a new treat or toy for every day of the week leading up to Christmas. They loved everything, and almost two weeks later, they are still happily playing and munching. I want to thank Alicia for all her hard work organizing Secret Santas, especially during such a sad time right after Squeakers and Sailor Willie departed for the Bridge, but I was so happy to hear that Dodger and Beau arrived in her life in time for Christmas. Also, a very big THANK YOU to our Secret Santa piggies, Poppy, Holly and Miss Otis (and slave Martha Coburn) in Ontario --- you definitely made my girls' Christmas extra special this year! Pat (who continues to receive ongoing advice and constructive criticism from Doris, Audrey and Olivia!) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From oreochockc at yahoo.com Tue Jan 6 07:18:50 2009 From: oreochockc at yahoo.com (corrine sakumoto) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:18:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Thank you to our secret piggies! Message-ID: <734778.20401.qm@web54601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Whee would like to thank our secret piggies who revealed themselves to us! Thank you to APACHE and REMY and mommy Carla for the goodies from the Winking Cavy. In the box was a note only saying that it was from our 'GPDD friends' so whee didn't know who they were until we got this lovely card in the mail revealing that it was APACHE and REMY!!! Mommy Corrine loves mugs, especially with guinea pigs, so she really loved that. Along with the dish for us and the neat poster! Thank you so much APACHE and REMY for being such wonderful secret pals to us. Whee shall always treasure the happiness you brought to us. Wheeeek!!! Take care, Snoopy and Snowy Bear and mommy Corrine From oreochockc at yahoo.com Tue Jan 6 07:36:30 2009 From: oreochockc at yahoo.com (corrine sakumoto) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:36:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Thank you Judi and piggies!!!! Message-ID: <788151.98998.qm@web54603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello everyone and everypig. Whee need to explain something. Our secret piggies had sent a holiday box of goodies to us on December 8th. Well, we waited and waited and.... got nothing. Whee felt so bad when slave Judi asked if we had gotten her box of goodies and we had to say 'no.' But then, on monday, January 5, 2009, we received her box of goodies! What is puzzling is that the post office sticker on it says that it was delivered to our post office on December 11th! Where it's been for nearly a month, we'll never know. Whee're just happy that it arrived! Whee love the delicious hay! Whee gobbled up a bunch of it. Whee were nice and shared with the boys too. There was a beautiful towel embroidered by slave Judi! And cozies which we love because it's gotten very cold here (there's a mountain near us with snow on it!!). We always love cavy madness stuffs! Piggie calendars (mommy loooves calendars!!!). Whee really love everything and want to send a big wheeking thank you to Pinky and Wilbur and Sheena and Millie the Bunny!!! Whee are so happy that you were our secret piggies!!!! Whee really love your pigture! Thanks so much for your generosity and for being so wonderful to us!!! Wheeks of love from, Blossom, Baby Truffles, Sparkles and mommy Corrine From pandameisje at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 08:34:47 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:34:47 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: New PLAY: Baskets Message-ID: Dear all, Whee are glad to announce that there is a new PLAY online!!! This time professor Igor has investigated baskets, aka cuddle cups. Check it out at: http://www.guinygirlz.nl/WinkyGang/Igor%27s%20PLAY/PlayBaskets.HTML You can still leave a message for professor Igor in his guestbook and encourage him to write more... Slave Mikey has updated the website layout a bit with a menu. Hope this works, will put a link there leading back to the Winkygang and Playpage. Any comments are welcome!! Enjoy! Wheekz the Winky Gang -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Tue Jan 6 09:25:55 2009 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:25:55 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Bertie Pig is a LAPS Pig...Wheeeek! Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! I have been meaning to tell you all that my Bertie Pig is eligible to join the LAPS group!! He's actually been a little over 3 pounds for about a month now, but I just kept forgetting to tell everyone/pig. He's such a Big Boy, my goodness and he is constantly eating. I tell him to slow it down otherwise he'll explode one day, but he just looks at me funny and bats his big, beautiful, sweet eyes at me. Well, the last time I weighed him, he was 3 lbs/1 ounce. WOW. He gets lots of floortime, and boy! does he need it--heeee! He has a Huge crush on Sweetie, Joanne's master and I think he's getting ready to see if he can take their relationship to the next level. I just hope that Sweetie doesn't mind being with a 'bigger' pig. I know there's a LAPS website and I'm not sure if I am supposed to send a pigture of Bertie, so just let me know. I can't access the LAPS website from work, and my new computer is being delivered today, I believe. So, I'll be happy to be back in business and I should hopefully be able to copy my pigtures from my 'ole busted computer to my new one...hopefully. Also, I know that many piggies and slaves are wanting to see PS's and BP's Holiday 2008 website... So, Please WELCOME my Big Bertie Boy to the LAPS club...Wheeeeeek! Love 'n Wheeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake & Bertie Pig :-) Bertie says, "I'm NOT Fat...I'm just Big-Boned!!!" From faststats at faststatschecks.com Tue Jan 6 13:58:54 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:58:54 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Nippy Hershey Message-ID: <005901c97030$d269a5d0$0200000a@MaryFran> Hi Joanie, Well, sounds like little Miss Hershey is getting ahead of herself. Here, the proper treatment of a real (as opposed to thinking your finger is lunch) bite is to place the flat of your index finger on the offending piggy nose and push down gently but firmly about 1/3 inch while saying "Baaaad Piggie" in a stern voice. Wheeks! --Mary Fran with Puffy and Muffy From selenacanada at yahoo.com Tue Jan 6 12:14:59 2009 From: selenacanada at yahoo.com (Selena Simonetti) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] {SILLY} Guinea Pig Song Message-ID: <423586.64557.qm@web63308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-TonEGQqM&feature=channel_page Very funny!:-) ?******* Selena Simonetti selenacanada at yahoo.com http://www.librarything.com/profile/selenacanada From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Jan 6 17:46:06 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:46:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Bertie Pig is a LAPS Piggy Message-ID: <501083.10904.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congratulations, Sweet Bertie!?? Sweetie here! I love big, burly piggy guys so you must be more handsome than ever! I think of you all the time and I have your pigture by my cage to look at all the time. I'm a lucky lady to be your "special friend"? ***smile*** Hugs, Sweetie Master to Joanne Happy 2009! From rzm.2 at juno.com Tue Jan 6 20:30:16 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:30:16 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- Mimi's eye Message-ID: <20090106.173016.10524.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Just wanted to let everyone know Mimi's eye seems ok. Sunday night I looked & whatever it was appeared to be gone. I flushed it out anyway, but everything looks ok. Thanks to all for your help & advice! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Win the battle of the bulge with great liposuction solutions. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2auytvbzEyitAUkFGs2ZvzB1w8Mytc0BdrlNWxBrJUu4Oqy/ From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 6 21:33:04 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:33:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY PIGGIE: Hershey's plush pals Message-ID: <781655.7582.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Today I intoduced Hersh to my collection of plush piggies. She discovered she could get her head under the adult sized one and fling it. I made it turn its head and look at her. She squeaked and popcorned. She seems to like the medium sized one the best. She keeps sniffing its nose. The little one she pretty much ignored. Any other piggie/plushie experiences to share? Joanie From Algernon07 at aol.com Wed Jan 7 03:35:18 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:35:18 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Behavior: Biting Slave Message-ID: Dear Hershey, Maybe you have carried this new bravery thing a bit too far (or a bite too far -- wheeek, wheeek, wheeek). Wheeze be pirate piggies and its been a long time since either of us nipped our momma. It just isn't done. (Tho some pggies are nibblers and a few slaves have been bitten.) Maybe for the next few days your momma should go back to using your cavy cozy when getting you out of the cage. Jolly Rodent Wilson (long at the Bridge) had fear issues and he nibbed momma several times we've heard -- enough to draw a drop blood on either side of the teeth marks. Our momma started wearing long sleeved sweat shirts for a while (the weather was right) so that he wouldn't learn to control by nibbing or worse, biting. Later, after the sweatshirt period, he would ever so gently nip momma on the arm when he wanted to be put down. There are nips and then there are nips, and then there are real bites. We seldom inflict a real bite -- guinea pigs in general, I mean. Leah's famaous Brownie Bear was a nipper at times but they got on well together. But be careful. We think you'll start doing better Hershey. You've made a lot of progress and you don't want to scare your momma. Your friend, The Jolly Rodent Caribbean Piggy Pirates, Capt'n Jack and Barnacle Bill ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From Algernon07 at aol.com Wed Jan 7 03:44:04 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:44:04 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Alicia, Coordinaor Message-ID: I'm behind on my digests as everyone knows, but I just saw where Pat thanked Alicia for being the coordinator once again. I have meant to do that, so am doing it now. You've done a great job Alicia, yet again. I think we get so caught up in the buying and sending that we forget to thank you for all you've put into it. Alge and the Jolly Rodent Pirate Piggy Crew ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From gracetheface at yahoo.com Wed Jan 7 10:46:34 2009 From: gracetheface at yahoo.com (grace ramp) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:46:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Behavior In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <771221.83999.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder to all that piggies love to chew. I had been feeling guilty about not letting the girls out enough so I started letting them have free range for almost a whole day on the weekends. When I had Oreo and Pork Chop I would lift up the lamp cords, but this time I just forgot about it. I know these three are terrible gnawers. I can hear them chewing on my end table. Bad Pigs!!! But just as an afterthought I lifted up the lamp cord and actually got a shock from it. It was extremely badly chewed in places. I'm lucky that none of the girls got hurt or that my apartment didn't burn down. So, just a reminder to all you slaves. Watch those electrical cords. Love, Grace, Gus, Babe and Rusty (with Oreo and Porkster at the Bridge) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 7 13:48:02 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:48:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: bad, bad video on utube Message-ID: <812165.90734.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When you listen to the adoreable song that Selena brought to our attention, don't let it scroll down too far to neighboring videos. There's one you WON'T ever want to see. I was lucky I was reading headings and saw the word "python" mentioned. People can be so sick! I'll have to listen to the piggy song again just to cheer me up. Joanie From faststats at faststatschecks.com Wed Jan 7 14:51:37 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:51:37 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Wheeks to Bernie Pig and Luke Message-ID: <004501c97101$5a36b310$0200000a@MaryFran> Dear Bernie Pig and Luke (brrrrrrrr), We've been wheeking non-stop at our slave, who's getting ready for tax season (Whee say NO to the carrot tax--whee hardly got any carrots at all last year!) to send thank-you's for being our Secret Santas!!! Wheee opened all our presents on Pigmas morning and it was so exciting. We had lots of special veggies and ate like pigs (wheek, wheek wheek). Wheee loved the new blankie and chewie sticks and all the other great stuff. Slave has TWO pigtures of Princess Snowflake on her desk now, and she says we're leaving the calendar set on February all year! Wheee know how you love your big sis, Bernie! Slave loved the snowflake towels too, Luke. It was a very "snowflake" Pigmas. Silly slave got everything kind of mixed up, so if we missed mentioning anything, be sure that we got and are loving it. Whee love Pigmas..... Sigh. Gingerpuff and Miss Muffet and slave Mary Fran From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 7 18:18:44 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:18:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Alternative when hay racks don't work Message-ID: <51822.47924.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sarah and the Piggy Gang, I was going over old digests and came across your request for adapting your piggies to a hay rack. Hopefully, that's resolved by now, but I have an alternative if it hasn't. I use a small triangular bunny litterbox with a stone in it to hold it down. Then I fill it with hay. I rarely find urine or droppings in it. It's too narrow for her to snuggle in. Now her Cozy Sack, that's a different matter! Joanie From cmartinez36 at comcast.net Wed Jan 7 21:03:00 2009 From: cmartinez36 at comcast.net (cmartinez36 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 02:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Plush pals In-Reply-To: <1465162652.1057921231380104953.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1280211083.1058071231380180308.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Just had to make a quick response to Joanie's post about the plush pals. It is a rare thing for me to find a plush guinea pig. Of course, that doesn't stop me from looking every time I'm in a store with stuffed animals. So this past Christmas, we got to actually double our collection --- from two to four! My piggies have only a mild and fleeting interest in the plush ones, but I still get a kick out of the stuffed representations. Previously I had one from a company called Folkmanis, and another one from Blockbuster, of all places ("Ray"). Then at Barnes and Noble while perusing the children's section, I couldn't believe it, but yes they actually had a little stuffed guinea pig. It looks like a teddy, maybe. Then my husband surprised me with one from the internet, it is from a company that makes something called "FurReal". Have you seen it? It runs on a battery, and you pat its back and it makes sort of guinea pig noises, moves its head, and opens and closes its eyes! And the little feet are very detailed, four toes in front and three in back, with plastic pads on the bottoms. And it has a baby bottle! Curious! We took my stepson's baby son shopping at a toy store, and they have Wonder Pets in the baby section! You know, the super-hero guinea pig, Linny and friends? Amazing...I have yet to acquire anything from the Wonder Pets, but you never know..... Okay! Well that's just to share your interest in plush piggies, Joanie! Wheeks, and Happy New Year, Carla, Apache and Remy (with Snowball and Snickers at the Bridge) From pals4pets at cheerful.com Thu Jan 8 08:48:40 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:48:40 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCEMENT] SCAMPs Soulage and Sable are 6 years old! Message-ID: <20090108134841.491601CE302@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> It was exactly 6 years ago today that I rescued the 27 guinea pigs from the Crocodile Woman who was selling surplus and freezing piggies to be fed to crocodiles here in Northwest France. That 27 eventually became 45, as 5 were pregnant sows, but most were rehomed and those who returned to me have mostly gone to The Rainbow Bridge. However, I am delighted to announce that Soulage and Sable, who were both unweaned babies when they arrived here with their mothers that day, are miraculously still with us, and seem to be doing fine, although Soulage has lost quite a bit of weight since her 5th birthday, going down from 1033g to 821g, which is a big worry for me. Both continue to eat well and exercise, although they don't live together in the winter as they have never really got on; Soulage lives with SCAMP Caramel and Sable lives with SCAMPS Ambree and Gisele. They do, however, all share a big outdoor hutch and run in the summer. I went out today to hunt for fresh grass for their celebratory birthday meal, and will be shopping for special veggies, as the frost has killed everything in the veg plot. I never thought I would be lucky enough to have these piggies' company for as long as 6 years - I was dreading the year they turned 5! So a big "thank you" to them both for resisting the temptations of The Rainbow Meadow for a further year - and to all of you who have advised me when they have had health problems!! They are both featured on the SCAMPS website if you want to see how beautiful they are. I'm ashamed to admit I still haven't got round to putting Caramel, Gisele and Ambree on there - I will try to do so before the month is out! Debbie (and the 8 Dolly Mixtures) "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From staileys at comcast.net Thu Jan 8 09:23:58 2009 From: staileys at comcast.net (staileys) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:23:58 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Secret Santa Thank You from Frodo and Zoe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Dodger and Slave Alicia, Whee are a bit embarrassed that this thank you is so late but whee couldn't get to our computer. Whee were at Charlie and Kaylee's house while our Mommy was back in Ohio. But now whee are home and can thank you properly. Dodger, whee hear that this is your first year being a Secret Santa and we are soooo honored to be your first giftees. Whee really enjoyed all your treats!! All those different snacks!! It is hard to choose a favorite. And, whee especially liked the willow ball. Whee are determined to get that treat inside someday. Mommy also says a big thank you for her treats, too. (Whee thought the box was just for us!) The tea and chocolates are helping her stay calm and happy..... Whee hear her talking a lot about an upcoming wedding for one of our younger slaves. And whee are wondering if you made the cute holiday pillow. Mommy says it's for her, but we're trying to convince her that it would look nice in our cage. Whee also heard Mommy say "Awwww" and look a bit sad when she opened your box because Dodger was the name of one of her first piggies who is now at the Rainbow Bridge. Whee hear he lived to be over 6 years old. Whee hope you have a long and happy life, too, and get to be a Secret Santa many more times. Thank you so much again Dodger (and Alicia) for all your gifts!! We really enjoyed them all. Happy New Year!!! Sir Frodo the Vacant, The Lovely Miss Zoe and Slave Laura From jocelynm at umich.edu Thu Jan 8 12:39:56 2009 From: jocelynm at umich.edu (Anderson, Jocelyn M) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:39:56 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: Re: bad, bad video on utube Message-ID: <3AF9B038A6B07641B36C799ED4EBB0D78DDFBD@ITCS-ECLS-1-VS3.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu> Joanie, I know the video you're talking about! I watch a lot of piggy videos on YouTube because they make me happy, and then that video popped up under "Suggested Videos For You" because it has tag "guinea pigs." Even just the picture is awful!! :( Jocelyn, Little John, and Flashbang Fatbottom From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 8 13:25:40 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:25:40 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- happy birthday Message-ID: <20090108.102540.1153.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Debbie- Please wish Sable & Soulage a very happy 6th birthday from us. How wonderful! I hope someday I have a piggie that makes it that long! Hope you are doing well & give them piggie kisses from us... ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~(& Holli too!) ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Need cash fast? Click now to get cash for your gold jewelry. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw4E12SqUMlEMR6o0SNgiCdLYEqLi5EzBaUmdC3foxZUqhuaa/ From calliope at geeksnet.com Thu Jan 8 14:00:55 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Soulage and Sable Message-ID: <49664D67.2040207@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish a very Happy 6th (!) Birthday to both Soulage and Sable! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jan 8 14:39:56 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 19:39:56 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Happy Birthday Soulage and Sable Message-ID: <840007641CD243B3A52157A931DAEB04@inspiron1150> Debbie, How wonderful to read that Soulage and Sable have reached their 6th. birthdays after such a terrible start in life. Our grass and other forage has also been frozen solid and our own produce is stuck fast in the veggie plot. I hope that this cold weather will soon be over for us all as Soulage and Sable really deserve that tasty grass. Please give them celebratory hugs from us all. Heureuses anniversaires chers petits cochons d'Inde. We hope that you are doing well yourself. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jan 8 17:48:28 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:48:28 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY Plush Pals Message-ID: <9F01D51D1770417BB49E4E52D0C8622B@inspiron1150> I have quite a collection of plush piggies, gathered over many years. I won two different ones on a WWF stall at a local fair. These are made by Leosco. I have one from a company called F.A.O. Schwarz, which I believe to be American. There are two by Hansa, one from Hamley's Toy Store in London and one by Merrythought, an English company. My son gave me a Steiff piggy some years ago and also brought back a glove puppet piggy from a business trip to the U.S. This is made by Folkmanis, like Carla's piggy and I see that they also make a finger puppet in a similar design, available from the Winking Cavy online store. I used to take mine when I had a table at the RSPCA Pet Days and was amazed at how many people were fooled by it, despite me carrying a real piggy as well as this puppet. I have two little key ring plushes, made for the old BBC tv programme, Pet Rescue. They made lots of plushes featuring some of the pets that they rehomed. I used to buy "Wagg" dog bix and when the company started producing nibbles for small pets too, one could choose a free plush with every purchase so I managed to acquire five piggies before the promotion ended. We never do things by halves at Piggyfriends. I made a lot of toy piggies to sell at the Pet Days and kept two of these. I was rather proud of these as I used pink felt to the little ears and by gathering the material managed to produce a good copy of a real piggy ear, whereas many of the factory made ones have thick plush ears which don't do justice to a real, sweet little piggy ear. I also have an assortment of piggies by unnamed makers, most of which came from visits to zoos and safari parks here in England, where there are often toys for sale in the gift shops. There is also my Gupi, an electronic plush piggy, a birthday present from my son. I was away on holiday when I opened it and had it running around the hotel room. It is very lifelike and must have given the maid a shock when she came in to clean the room. I hadn't seen the Fur Real toys but have just looked them up on the Internet. Thank you Carla. One of those is now on my wish list. I had never heard of Wonder Pets either. Maybe they are in English stores! I nearly forgot my "Sylvanian Families" set of piggies. I need one more babe to complete the set of six. I think that I nearly have as many as our Rodentologist, who keeps hers in cavy cosies and baskets all around her house. I used to take many of my plushes to the Pet Days, when I crammed them into a tiny hutch for a display showing "How not to house your guinea pig" alongside photos of the Piggyfriends' spacious pens. You don't have to be mad to be a member of this group, but it helps. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 8 18:03:31 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:03:31 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY- stuffed animals Message-ID: <20090108.150331.29397.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Carla- I love Wonderpets too! They're adorable. My little cousin likes to watch them with me (I'm starting him off early!) I have 3 stuffed piggies, but am always looking for more for my collection. I have 2 TY piggies & a piggie I got at the Boyd's Bears store in Gettysburg. I'll have to check out the ones you mentioned & see if they're on the internet. I love the piggie & hamster from the Blockbuster commercials too. Ok, I've babbled long enough! Take care... ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~(& Holli too!) ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the low cost way to send and receive faxes by email! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw19e5wCNNq4olvmsipXddRE2lcVbifh9vH3pEdI1LHO4K83E/ From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 9 07:51:07 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:51:07 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; Chatroom Message-ID: Hello everyone who uses the chatroom, just to let you know we seem to have a bug at the moment where once the last person logs out all the chat and people vanish. If you go in and there is nothing there dont worry it still works, you just need someone online to chat to. I have sent email about it, but it takes a week for them to come back so please bear with me. Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 9 07:52:39 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:52:39 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly; Squeakers Message-ID: We think Fugly must have a squeaker in his tummy like a squeaky toy, he cannot move about with squeaking, not very clever when he is getting up to mischief. M _________________________________________________________________ Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Fri Jan 9 09:56:17 2009 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:56:17 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Will you be my Girlfriend, Sweetie??? Message-ID: Dear Sweetie, Wheeee have been Pen Pals for a very long time now and I have enjoyed our Friendship very, very much. But, I must admit now that I fallen for you and I hope you feel the same about me. I stare at your pigture everyday and hope that you will always be in my life. So, now, I would like to know if you would be my Girlfriend??? You don't need to answer right away. Take your time. But, I hoping that your answer will be "YES!". Love Always, Bertie Pig :-) From faststats at faststatschecks.com Fri Jan 9 12:36:19 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:36:19 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Piggy snacks Message-ID: <000b01c97280$c87e4ab0$0200000a@MaryFran> Dear Misfits 14, Thanks for the treat, you guys. Whee weren't sure about them at first, but then we were fighting over them. --Gingerpuff and Miss Muffet (NOT Cinn. Girl, a stupid name my slave picked out grrrrr) with slve Mary Fran From luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de Fri Jan 9 12:16:58 2009 From: luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de (luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:16:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Horrible YouTube Video Message-ID: <1264.77.185.15.128.1231521418.webmail@portal.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Dear Joanie, Jocelyn and all, I know about this video, too, and its horror haunted me for weeks, even though I turned it off immediately. I think it ranks a complaint to YouTube as clearly sadistic and pathological. If enough of us complain, perhaps they will remove it. Anyone who would videotape such a thing is, I think, a criminal. Luita Bert and Cinja From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 17:02:32 2009 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:02:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Bad video on utube Message-ID: <901358.19761.qm@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> i didn't see it is there violence in it? what's so bad? Katie and Lizzy From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 17:05:24 2009 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:05:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] PIGGLETS : HI Message-ID: <930759.13790.qm@web46404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi I've nevr used this before so how does it work the subject (piglets) From diana_barbour at hotmail.com Fri Jan 9 19:54:08 2009 From: diana_barbour at hotmail.com (DIANA BARBOUR) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:54:08 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Christmas Piggie Needs Votes! Message-ID: This little cutie has only 5% of the vote so far, but the voting doesn't close until Monday, so please, vote for Christmas Pigger!Here's the link:http://www.wpxi.com:surveyresults:18413810:index.html%3Ftaf=burg _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009 From Dukejan1 at aol.com Fri Jan 9 20:58:22 2009 From: Dukejan1 at aol.com (Dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:58:22 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Happy Birthday Soulange and Sable! Message-ID: Soulange and Sable, A very happy 6th birthday to both of you. Wow! We know your slave will make it a very special day for you. Hope you get lots and lots of your favorite veggies! Isabel, Lily, Luke, and slave Janet **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From cmartinez36 at comcast.net Fri Jan 9 21:02:24 2009 From: cmartinez36 at comcast.net (cmartinez36 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Plush Pals In-Reply-To: <394085154.302031231552752536.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2057011649.302311231552944918.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> It is fun reading about other people's plush piggies! My goodness, Penny, you don't do things "by halves" at all, do you? I would love to see your collection! Maybe you could snap a photo for us? Sounds like fun to put them in cozies around the house. So I guess your house is decorated in guinea pig ;-) Way to go Jaime with your little cousin! Thanks, y'all, for alerting me to other sources for plush piggie tributes. Carla, Apache and Remy From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 11:58:58 2009 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:58:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCEMENT] SCAMPs Soulage and Sable are 6 years old Message-ID: <530240.17431.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Debbie It is wonderful news that Soulage and Sable have turned 6 years old. We all feel blessed when we have piggies living longer than their expected life span. I like you dread the 5th birthdays. My Dexter has his birthday coming up in April. He seems to be healthy and happy though. He has not even lost weight like they usually do as they get older. Again, congratulations on your older pigs! Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jan 10 13:15:55 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:15:55 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC A Lucky Escape Message-ID: <018102BA7489466DB9859BE1A163AB76@inspiron1150> I have just had a visit from two friends, who volunteer for our local wildlife rescue society, looking after injured hedgehogs and nursing them until they can be released. The Piggyfriends' garden is one of their release sites for hogs that cannot be returned to the area in which they were found. The wildlife organisation share their premises with a local vet and, when they went in to clean out their unit, the head vet nurse called them in to see "something nice". They peered into the large pile of hay, expecting perhaps to see a hedgehog in need of their help but there was a little baby piggy. Claire, the nurse, told them that she had been handed in at the vets by the owner of a cat, which had come in through their catflap carrying this precious babe. The cat owners thought that their pet had caught a mouse but on closer inspection realised what was in the cat's mouth and retrieved the little piggy. Not knowing what else to do they had taken the piggy to the vet hoping that they could find her a home. Luckily the piggy was unharmed by this ordeal. My friend, Monica, used to have piggies of her own some years ago, before she and her husband became full time hog carers and she immediately wanted to take the piggy home. This little one is about 5/6 weeks old and how she came to be caught by a cat is anyone's guess. No-one living near the cat's owners' home has piggies. Whatever was she doing out of doors in this freezing cold weather where a cat could find her? The little piggy has been set up in the lap of luxury but they wanted a companion for her and came to see if I knew of anyone with piggies in need. I called our Rodentologist, who knows many rescuers and two babes from GBH ( Guineas, Buns and Hammies ), the organisation that was involved with that big RSPCA rescue that I posted about recently, will shortly be on their way to join this lucky piggy. This piggy, called Piglet pro tem as Monica is an avid Winnie the Pooh fan, very nearly became a Piggyfriend as Claire, the vet nurse, is one of my clients and would probably have phoned me had Monica not arrived at that moment. Another precious piggy saved. It is good to post a story with a happy ending. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 13:30:38 2009 From: ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com (Stacy Harvey) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:30:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] (Bridge) Tigger Message-ID: <951179.43311.qm@web53003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It is with a heavy heart that I must announce the passing of my sweet little Tigger. ? Some of you may remember that she was one of the 240+ piggies that was rescued from a man's garage in Maryland by the GPDD. She was missing a back leg, most likely from having been kept in a rabbit cage. She was small, but spunky, and got around like she didn't have an infirmity at all.?I was one of the volunteers that helped clean cages and I knew I had to have her as soon as I first saw her. Had to wait almost a year until the trial was over (and what a joke that was...) but she came home with me in August of 2004. ? She never had any health problems, until the?past few?months when she started losing weight rapidly. She was eating and drinking like a horse, but still the weight kept coming off. She was tested for diabetes and everything came back normal, as did her radiographs. I finally called the exotics doctor in Raleigh, NC and he mentioned that she might be hyperthyroid. We (the vet that I work for and I) took some blood and, sure enough, her thyroid levels were almost three times the norm. We got her on medication, and while she didn't gain back a whole lot of weight, she at least stabilized and started acting more like her old sweet self--she was one of my "kissy" pigs, and she loved to give kisses on your hands and face. She had been on the anti-thyroid medication for about 2 1/2 months. ? She was fine Thursday night, gobbling down her greens and baby carrot as usual. When I got up to feed everyone on Friday morning, I knew something was wrong. She?went over to her greens but then wouldn't eat them. She also wouldn't eat any Critical Care (which she loved), nor the little baked treats that she liked. When I sat her in my lap, she just kind of flopped down like she was so tired and she really didn't want me to bother her. I considered taking her in to the clinic with me, but then I thought if she was going to die I at least wanted her to be comfortable in a clean cage with a nice soft bed, instead of stressed out in a carrier around all that activity, and the barking dogs and such. She didn't seem to be in pain, just very, very tired. I knew she wanted to go and I told her it was okay but?that I didn't want her to, and I loved her and hoped she had enjoyed her time with me as much as I enjoyed mine with her. Then I kissed her, put her in her little cavy cozy and went to work. ? I called my husband to tell him that she was sick and if he got home at a reasonable time to maybe bring her in right before we closed. Instead he showed up at about 6 p.m. with her little body; he said she was still warm when he got home so she had most likely passed right before he got there. I hope I did the right thing in leaving her at home. I know they hide their pain well, and I worry that maybe she was really suffering but just didn't show it. ? She had such a bad start in life; I hope that I was able to do right by her for the few years that she was with me. Goodbye, Sweet Tigger.?I'm sure that you are running free on all four legs, whole and happy, in the clover fields beyond the Rainbow Bridge. Please say hello to the other members of the Squee Squad who are there, and the other precious piggies from the GPDD who have gone there too. ? -Stacy and the grieving Squee Squad From wheekwheek at mcmilton.plus.com Sat Jan 10 13:43:15 2009 From: wheekwheek at mcmilton.plus.com (McMilton) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:43:15 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: THANK YOU, Secret Santa!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c97353$4db531d0$990a7257@milton643a1f19> Milton and the Lads would like to say a very special thank you to our Seekrit Pals for the great Edible Log, which a couple of the lads have nibbled, those too fat to run through it that is. The vegetable mix treats have been put in paper bags for us to seek and destroy, and we are working our way through the herb treats, yum yum! Thank you also for the great fashion-conscious headgear card and the photos of you all enjoying our little parcel, that was a great surprise! We hope you all had a good Xmas and a have a wonderful 2009!!! Milton and the Lads Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 27/12/2008 20:49 From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jan 10 14:28:14 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:28:14 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement; Soulage and Sable Message-ID: A very happy 6th birthday to Soulage and Sable way to go guys. Also a massive well done to slave Debbie M + Fugly From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jan 10 14:29:42 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:29:42 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly; Cuddly toys Message-ID: I have a Ty keyring beanie baby called Twitch and a lifesize black, white and brown piggy from Suma, I also have a gupi although he doesnt get much floor time now, I could never get Gupiana website to work, has anyone else had any luck with it? M From pandameisje at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 16:33:19 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:33:19 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Update on Toby's teeth Message-ID: Dear all, Just a mail to inform you all how Toby is doing, after breaking his top front teeth from the gums. Well, he is doing splendid!! His teeth are back to normal length again and he can bite again, which means he can cut his own veggies in pieces again!! I think all this feeding veggie strips and checking Toby's teeth, has gotten my boyfriend Erwin and Toby more attached to each other. Which of course is good, because this increases my chances of being allowed to keep the boys... The shelter has not asked me yet when the boys come back, and Boyfriend has not told me to take them back... So as long as neither one of them wants them gone or back, I'm keeping them right where they are ;) His teeth grew back at an enormous speed, even this fast that his new teeth just grew over the old stumps, but I think they have fallen out by now. At first we thought this was a problem since this stump pushed one of his teeth to the front, so his new teeth became uneven, but last time we checked, they looked just fine (same length and straight) and the stumps were loose. Thanks to everyone on your advice on what to do with Toby!! it's unbelievable how quick these toofies grow back... Toby says wheek to all the beautiful girls over the world, and Chico joins him in doing so!! Wheeks, Chico and Toby, the shelter boys Guiny, Dunya and Woopy, the Winky girls and Slave Mikey -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Sat Jan 10 17:45:25 2009 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:45:25 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake & Bertie Pig's Christmas 2008 Website is coming soon!!! Message-ID: Hola Piggies & Slaves! I am Happy to report that I got my new computer on Tuesday and I've almost got it all set up and stuff. Luckily, my 'ole computer crashed before Christmas so I was able to take pigtures and keep 'em on my camera until I got my new computer. So, I'll be working on their Holiday website this wheeekend. Unfortunately though, their Thanksgiving pigtures are still on my 'ole 'infected' computer, so if I can get that data off of that machine, then I'll do their Thansgiving website at a later time. Better late than never, I suppose. Last night, I was up late editing their Holiday pigtures and I went ahead and put them on my Facebook page, so for you Facebook-fanatics-->you can sneak a peak at their pigtures. I hope that all Piggies and Slaves are doing Well. I know that there are many sick ones out there and just know I Pray for you all every night and of course, I Grieve with you when wheee lose one of our little Friends... Have a Good Wheeeekend!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake and Bertie Pig--who seems to have found True LOVE :-) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 10 21:21:19 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:21:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Horrible guinea pig video Message-ID: <729544.36831.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Luita, Do you know how to contact utube? I'm not good with computers, but I sure as heck can write! Just aim me. Can you imagine the trauma that could be done to a child stumbling across that video? I'm traumatized just by reading the heading. We are a worldwide community of piggie lovers. We should make our voice heard. The question is, "How?" Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 10 21:23:49 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:23:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Bad video Message-ID: <291301.30169.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Katie, I hate to tell you that video we've been emailing about contains violence towards piggies. That's as much as I feel comfortable saying. Joanie From cavyfriend at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 06:56:22 2009 From: cavyfriend at gmail.com (Sherry B.) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:56:22 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Little Suzy has a heart condition Message-ID: Hello, Last weekend my sweet Little Suzy began to have trouble breathing. Of course, these things always seem to happen on a weekend when there is no help to be found for a little guinea pig. By Monday morning she was nearly exhausted from her struggles. I was able to drop her off at the vet's office that morning, but was not even sure if she would be able to survive the examination. I have had very few piggies who did not struggle to some extent when being examined, and I felt sure that if she put up too much of a struggle it would not go well for her. I was afraid that there might be a problem with her heart, as her mother died before she was a year old of a heart attack...the second one that she had had in her short life. Anyway, they had to put her on oxygen just to be able to do the examination, which I was told they did very quickly to keep from stressing her out too much. She was then given a shot of lasix, which, after it had taken effect, allowed them to be able to do an x-ray of her chest. They couldn't make a definitive diagnoses from what they saw on the x-ray, but she was stable enough for me to take home with meds and instructions to bring her back in 3-5 days for a re-check. They were better able to hear her heart sounds after much of the fluid had moved out of her lungs, and it was then that I got the news that her heart was not in good shape...instead of the normal "lub dub" sound, hers was more of a swoosh swoosh...with some arrythmia as well. To look at her now you would never know that she is ill, although her breathing is still a little labored at times. When she is resting, her breathing looks almost normal. She has a good appetite, but doesn't seem to be drinking alot of water, which really worries me because she is still on lasix and may have to be for the rest of her life. She is perky and still gets excited at "salad time", wheeking away along with all the other piggies. My question is this...has anyone out there had a similar experience with one of their piggies? If so, I would love to hear from you. Any advice or info. that you would be willing to share would be of great value to me. We have another vet visit coming up in about 10 days, and I understand that there are other meds that can be tried if the lasix does not prove to be enough. I look forward to hearing from you. Whee hope that everyone is enjoying a happy and healthy New Year! :o) With love, Sherry & the Piggie Pals From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jan 11 07:31:58 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:31:58 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Tigger Message-ID: <4EE67E9EE6E142A8B41DE0972B5FAC8F@inspiron1150> Stacy, I am so sorry to read that Tigger has left you for the Rainbow Bridge. What a wonderful life she enjoyed as one of the pampered Squee Squad. This must have made such a difference to her after the most dreadful start and enabled her to achieve such a good age. It is such a shame that she could not have come to you straight away after being rescued. I have never understood why animals that are part of a court case should have to wait to be rehomed until after the trial, especially when, in this country ( England ) at least, this can take a ridiculously long time. I had a three legged Piggyfriend called Ping. Like your Tigger she could run as fast as her friends and was never bothered by the missing leg. I like to think that she is running on four legs now and maybe she has met your Tigger at the Bridge. My most sincere sympathy on your sad loss. R.I.P. sweet Tigger. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jan 11 10:24:10 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:24:10 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY Plush Pals Message-ID: <1FDD80B0366741DCA7630366B7E4D997@inspiron1150> Carla, I promise that I will take a photo of my plush collection for you to see when I have a little of that scarce commodity, spare time. Yes, I suppose that my house is decorated piggy style. As well as my plushes ( and the large herd of Piggyfriends ) I have a collection of assorted guinea pig models in ceramic, glass and wood, many framed pigtures, a large poster, a gallery of GPDD piggies which I have printed, a sign by the front door saying "Beware of the Guinea Pig", a sign in the window saying " Piggyfriends Guinea Pig Rescue" and a sign right by my desk with the words " This house is ruled by Guinea Pigs", which just about says it all. Oh, I forgot the two clocks with pigtures of piggies and the row of mugs with images of piggies ( never to be used in case they get chipped ) and the half finished cross stitch pigture on my frame................... So many pigs so little time and I wouldn't have it any other way! My family is never at a loss to know what to give me for my birthday. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jan 11 12:47:38 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:47:38 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow bridge: Tigger Message-ID: Stacey, thank you for sharing Tiggers life with us, I was not a member of the digest when she joined you so her history was new to me. What a precious little piggy she sounds and such a tribute to your care that she had a happy life. You did the right thing letting Tigger decide when to go in the comfort of her own home, with no disruptions to her peace. Run free Tigger M + Fugly From luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de Sun Jan 11 13:39:23 2009 From: luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de (luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:39:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Youtube address Message-ID: <1534.77.185.2.116.1231699163.webmail@portal.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Dear Joanie, and everyone else, Anyone who is interested in complaining to Youtube about their sadistic video can reach them at this address: YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave. San Bruno, CA 94066 USA Phone: +1 650-253-0000 Fax: +1 650-253-0001 I believe our complaints will be important, and may stop future videos of this nature. I know there is a very similar, equally disturbing video that involves a rabbit on Youtube, and maybe the GPDD folks with contacts to rabbit groups can spread the word. Luita Bert and Cinja, safe from human monsters From luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de Sun Jan 11 14:03:41 2009 From: luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de (luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:03:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: example YouTube letter Message-ID: <1563.77.185.2.116.1231700621.webmail@portal.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Here is the letter I am going to send to YouTube: I am writing to express my horror and disgust regarding one of the YouTube videos that continues to be available on your site. To be specific, this is a video that records a snake killing a guinea pig. I understand that animals kill and eat each other in the wild, but such spectacles are hardly recreational viewing. Animals kill and eat each other out of necessity; some people record and watch such activities ?for fun? because they are, in a word, monsters. I am sure that it comes as no new information to you that people who enjoy sadism towards animals often eventually turn their sadistic pleasure towards people. The history of murderers is riddled with people who ?graduated? from animals to their own kind. The video that your site carries encourages this pathology, and as administrators and owners of this website, you carry the ultimate responsibility for this encouragement. What is particularly terrible is that a reference to this video appears when the subject of ?guinea pigs? is entered into YouTube?s search engine. I am sure that many people, including children, have been subjected to this appalling video simply because they were trying to pursue their interest in, and love for, a well-loved companion animal. I hope this letter, as well as the others that you will undoubtedly receive from other concerned individuals, will prompt you to act responsibly, and either remove the video entirely from YouTube?s site, or direct only to those people who enter something like ?animal sadism? into the search engine. Such a subject line speaks for itself. Luita Spangler From rzm.2 at juno.com Sun Jan 11 19:42:40 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:42:40 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090111.164240.5829.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Stacy- I'm so sorry to hear about Tigger. I do remember that incident in Maryland very well. She was so lucky to have found happiness after all she went thru. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click for air conditioner info, reduce energy costs, affordable prices. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1sp2G5pLdr3hpfdibzjNdIa0Xvv33Vzy3Kc5jA6vbI8zVye/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 10:17:33 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:17:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Tigger Message-ID: <659843.65888.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Stacey... My condolences to the passing of your special little pig, Tigger.? You gave her a great life after the start that she had and I hope you can look back at your times together and just smile. Rest in Peace, Tigger. With sadness, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci and Sweetie We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare, and love we can spare.? And in return, dogs give us their all. ????????????????????????????????? - M. Facklam From magbfouts at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 10:15:02 2009 From: magbfouts at gmail.com (Maren Fouts) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: condolences for Tigger Message-ID: Stacy, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss of Tigger. At the very beginning of your post it sounded exactly like a hyperthyroid condition as my Rosie had that about a year and a half ago. My vet said there is no real "normal" level for guinea pigs as there hasn't been enough information but I know her levels were high as her highest was reading off their scale. Medication never worked for her as she had a tumor (albeit benign) that was causing the trouble. We had no choice but surgery and she died 14 hours later. It was tough to watch her little body go through so much. She would run and run and run until she just crashed and slept so deeply I thought she was dead more than once. I would give her fruits and veggies 9 times a day, set the alarm to wake her in the middle of the night to make her eat, my husband would go to work late and I would come home early to have her alone only about 5 hours a day, I added flax seed oil and oats to her food and gave her a constant source of Critical Care and she still lost weight. I even stopped putting her on floor time (which broke my heart as she loved floor time) to limit her exercise. She was around 800 grams when she died (down from around 1050-she was always small). She only lasted this ordeal for about 6 weeks. She started hating the vet and would bite and pull on the arm of his coat when he would carry her to the back. I'm glad you had 2 more months with Tigger. It's always hard to lose a piggy, especially when you spend weeks worrying about them and caring extra for them. You certainly did the right thing for Tigger. I would prefer to pass away in my own bed rather than in the hospital too with all the poking and prodding. Piggy kisses and healing wheeks to you and the Squee Squad, Maren, Charlie, and Kaylee From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Mon Jan 12 14:55:53 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:55:53 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: example YouTube letter In-Reply-To: <1563.77.185.2.116.1231700621.webmail@portal.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: I've sent my You Tube letter in from the UK. Thanks for the example letter, Luita. For anyone who missed Luita's letter, here it is again below. Carole I am writing to express my horror and disgust regarding one of the YouTube videos that continues to be available on your site. To be specific, this is a video that records a snake killing a guinea pig. I understand that animals kill and eat each other in the wild, but such spectacles are hardly recreational viewing. Animals kill and eat each other out of necessity; some people record and watch such activities ?for fun? because they are, in a word, monsters. I am sure that it comes as no new information to you that people who enjoy sadism towards animals often eventually turn their sadistic pleasure towards people. The history of murderers is riddled with people who ?graduated? from animals to their own kind. The video that your site carries encourages this pathology, and as administrators and owners of this website, you carry the ultimate responsibility for this encouragement. What is particularly terrible is that a reference to this video appears when the subject of ?guinea pigs? is entered into YouTube?s search engine. I am sure that many people, including children, have been subjected to this appalling video simply because they were trying to pursue their interest in, and love for, a well-loved companion animal. I hope this letter, as well as the others that you will undoubtedly receive from other concerned individuals, will prompt you to act responsibly, and either remove the video entirely from YouTube?s site, or direct only to those people who enter something like ?animal sadism? into the search engine. Such a subject line speaks for itself. Luita Spangler From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Mon Jan 12 12:38:33 2009 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:38:33 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Message-ID: Hi Liuta, Actually, youtube has stated that exactly in their guidelines: I quote: "Don't post videos showing bad stuff like animal abuse, drug abuse, under-age drinking and smoking, or bomb making. " However, since there are so many videos on youtube they cannot actually control all the content. So it is indeed up to us users to let them know. If a video offends you, you can flag the video (red flag right below the video). The administrators review flagged videos all day and remove them if neccesary. The youtube admins are also not responsible for the tags added to a video. Users do that themselves. You can read more about the guidelines here: http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines Grtz! Janneke _________________________________________________________________ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 12 13:11:55 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:11:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Tigger Message-ID: <551283.49973.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you for letting us newcomers get to know Tigger. What an exceptional piggie, and what an exceptional slave! You demonstrated your love for her in so many?tangible ways. I know she appreciated all you did and, from the Bridge, she thinks of you fondly and often. ? Joanie From stuart.watson at dunelm.org.uk Mon Jan 12 15:38:33 2009 From: stuart.watson at dunelm.org.uk (Stuart Watson) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:38:33 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Neutering Message-ID: Hi, I have been keeping guinea pigs for about 9 years so far, and have never had to have any neutered. Recently however one of a pair (Oscar (survivor) and Wild (RIP)) died suddenly from what appeared to me to be a major stroke; leaving Oscar behind. I have tried introducing him to sever males but is having none of it; hence I am considering adopting a lady friend for him from a rescue centre; but first want to get him neutered. Does anyone have any advice of how to find a suitable vet in general for this type of operation? And if anyone lives near Durham in the UK I would welcome specific recommendations. If you want to contact medirect please feel free to use panda at durge.org. Yours, Stuart (me), Oscar, Cuprum, Hydragyrum, Charlie and Elpis. From agbmcmd at yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 17:37:27 2009 From: agbmcmd at yahoo.com (Audrey Binder) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:37:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [Misc.] Condolences for Tigger Message-ID: <346066.79507.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Stacy, Please accept our deepest condolences on the loss of Tigger.? I remember that Maryland Incident well, and I even wrote a letter to the judge of that county expressing my thoughts on the handling of the case.? I am glad that at least one of the rescued piggies went on to have a good life with you.? It sounds like Tigger's life was as rewarding to you, as yours was to Tigger.? Our thoughts are with you. ? Audrey and her GP, Gordon (Remembering Reese) From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 18:37:32 2009 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:37:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Horrible Utube video Message-ID: <751471.85143.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi I went to search for this utube video (not to watch it) and i found something it was this girl saying she?is an animal lover and wanted everyone to stop this I wanted to commet but it wouldn't let me. When I was 9 my friend and I looked on utube and watched cute rabbits and animals and we saw the horrible video of a rabbit. I started to cry because it made me think of Lizzy. I guess I couldv'e guessed it was a bad video because the name. From gracetheface at yahoo.com Tue Jan 13 10:31:07 2009 From: gracetheface at yahoo.com (grace ramp) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:31:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <656343.35045.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Stacy, I'm so sorry that Tigger has gone to the Bridge. I had a pig, Oreo, from that same horrible situation in Maryland. She went to the Bridge in May of 2007 and I still miss her. She was such a sweet girl. My thoughs and prayers are with you. Love, Grace, Gus, Rusty and Babe (Oreo and Pork Chop at the Bridge) From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 13 10:35:59 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:35:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: question on cereal? Message-ID: <876791.71459.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello all fellow piggie lovers:) First our deepest sympathies to all slaves on piggies passing to the bridge. It breaks my heart to read of the passings but I know each piggie in our care is loved and missed?so much when they pass. My question is I was at a pet store buying hay, and I walked by the piggies.. I always ask to hold each piggie when I am there. They keep them locked up in a large glass cage. While I was snuggling each piggie I noticed in their food bowl the pet shop had cereal?besides the pellets.. it looked like cheerioes and rice crispies.. So I asked.. he said he brings in the stale cereal??from his?home and puts it in all the rodents cages.. he said it was great for their teeth.? I was a little concerned so I thought I would ask all of you about this.. is that ok to do? I have never feed any of my piggies cereal, only the pellets and hay and veggie plate in morning.. just wondering what you all thought of this.. Thanks for your advice in advance. I learn so much reading the posts on all the piggie knowledge you all have. I am learning something new all the time about the care of? piggies. Our little Trigger was sick with a "cold" running eyes and nose,?but went on antibotics and is doing as good as new:) Hugs to all of you and your piggies, Jean and the misfits 14 From pals4pets at cheerful.com Tue Jan 13 04:16:26 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:16:26 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Tigger Message-ID: <20090113091626.534101BF28D@ws1-10.us4.outblaze.com> Stacey and the Squee Squad We just want to add our condolences to the many you have already received on the departure for The Rainbow Bridge of your beloved little fighter, Tigger. How delighted we are that you were able to rescue her and give such a wonderful life with you. She was certainly a SCAMP, which is a tremendous tribute to the care you were able to give her, given her horrendous beginnings and resulting disability. We are sure you did the right thing, allowing her to slip away with dignity in the peace and security of her loving home. This is how most of the departed Dolly Mixtures have chosen to make their exit, and we are sure it is the kindest option in many cases, especially for SCAMPs who have been ill for a while. As you say, Tigger now has 4 good legs and is dashing around that Rainbow Meadow gorging herself on the lush green grass and dandelions and delighting in meeting old friends and making new ones. She will certainly have known how much she was loved, and no doubt feel sorry for the hole she has left in your lives and your hearts. But she will know that you are happy for her to be free from discomfort at last, and of course will feel eternal gratitude towards you for having given her such a wonderful life after she had all but given up hope. Thank you for rescuing her, and for sharing her story with us. We are thinking of you at this sad time and wish you well. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From pals4pets at cheerful.com Tue Jan 13 04:21:26 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:21:26 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Thanks for birthday wishes Message-ID: <20090113092126.E198711581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> SCAMPs Soulage and Sable and their slave, Debbie, just want to express our very sincere thanks to all the kind piggies and slaves who sent us good wishes as Soulage and Sable celebrated their 6th birthday. Though we are far from you in miles, you all feel very close to our hearts and we are touched to feel part of this wonderful global family. "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Tue Jan 13 09:34:03 2009 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:34:03 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake & Bertie Pig's Christmas 2008 Website...FINALLY!!! Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! Well, I Finally finished the piggies' Christmas 2008 website. Sorry it's coming so late. But, hopefully it will be worth the wait. Oh, and Bertie Pig had a Secret Santa, but there was a mix up, so his gift hasn't arrived yet. I didn't want anyone to think that only the Princess had a Secret Santa. If that were the case, then my ankles would have bite marks all over them--heeee! Check it out at: http://home.roadrunner.com/~lconsuela/Christmas2008.html ENJOY!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake & Bertie Pig :-) From joedee1986 at verizon.net Tue Jan 13 16:48:16 2009 From: joedee1986 at verizon.net (Dee and Joe) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:48:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Hello from Florida Message-ID: <768556.9868.qm@web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, ? Joe and I made it to Florida.? We got out of Massachusetts just in time to miss the latest round of cold and snow. ? We left Pumpkin and Peaches with my sister in NJ.? I thought that was better than carting them from motel to motel on our way south.? My sister is an experienced GP slave. ? I miss my fur babies!? We are in Port Charlotte, anyone near with piggies I could cuddle?? The local shelters seem to just have cats and dogs. ? Dee, missing her cuddle pigs. From faststats at faststatschecks.com Tue Jan 13 16:06:38 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:06:38 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] misc : sad story about cows Message-ID: <00d801c975c2$d37d01a0$0200000a@MaryFran> This dairy's going out of business and selling their cows to slaughter to keep milk prices high. --Mary Fran http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/01/12/news/inland/vc/z747cc134150508fe8825753600672c15.txt From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 13 17:18:34 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:18:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Stasis Message-ID: <809349.47572.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Bun's suffering from stasis. Hershey's being very quiet. She knows something's wrong. ? Joanie From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Tue Jan 13 20:07:32 2009 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:07:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Little Suzy has a heart condition Message-ID: <663443.5271.qm@web52303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sherry I have had 4 guinea pigs with conjestive heart failure. Most lived years longer on diuretics. Sophie lived six months. The vet said she had to have been born with the heart defect to be so bad so young. Lasix is a good diuretic, but all diuretics can irritate the bladder. Sabrina was always getting bladder infections from the irritation. She eventually started forming stones. We switched her to a very old diuretic, Diuril. It was used before Lasix and irritates her bladder less, but it is an every 12-hour drug instead of a 24-hour like Lasix. I gave the Diuril, as needed. When it was time for a dose, I would listen to their breathing. If they were congested, I gave them a dose. If not, I would skip that dose. That way it irritated the bladder less. The vet said it was a good idea to give just as needed. When Sabrina first got CHF, I couldn't skip any doses. She was always congested at the next dosage time. I had to increase the dosage until she wasn't badly congested by the next dose. Then, her breathing was better and I was able to cut back on the dosage. She was on lasix and diuril for years before she had a heart attack. The Diuril had to ordered through my pharmacy and mixed. The pharmacist laughed when I told him it was for my guinea pig. I bet he never laughed at dogs on meds. Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com From cmartinez36 at comcast.net Tue Jan 13 21:28:29 2009 From: cmartinez36 at comcast.net (cmartinez36 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Thanks to Snoopy and SnowyBear! In-Reply-To: <977483664.974171231900096934.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <339627331.974191231900109407.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Dear Snoopy and SnowyBear, We are writing to send you big wheeks for the lovely Hawaiian treats and surprises, your terrific pigture and note cards featuring K.C. By the way, KC was beautifully photogenic! Our slavey loves the CavyMadness bag, and whee hope she uses it all for our veggies!?That's right, Carla, fill it up! We don't know who did the packing, you or Corrine, but you guys sure know how to fit the ma ximum in the smallest envelope . Great spatial skills! Snoopy, did you know that you and I look enough alike to be brothers!? (that is Apache talking) We need to post a pigture so you can see for yourself. Snowy Bear looks like Apache's faithful friend Snowball who has gone to the Bridge. Itwas really fun to be your Secret Santa Piggies, and we're glad you liked the stuff we sent you. Thanks for returning our packing slip. Slavey realized after the purchase that she had not found a way to prevent that from going to you, instead of to her . your pigture is on top of our pen, together with Charlie's and Kaylee's holiday greeting. Thank you for your sweet note and thoughts. Happy New Year! Apache and Remy *********************************** From cmartinez36 at comcast.net Tue Jan 13 21:32:46 2009 From: cmartinez36 at comcast.net (cmartinez36 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Plush Pals In-Reply-To: <1108916130.974461231900298907.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <86938508.974721231900366952.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Penny, We would love to see your collection! I know everyone on the GPDD would love to see! A small gallery! That is funny that your family always knows what to get you. I can relate :-) Wheeks, Carla From Glynis at garnay.com.au Tue Jan 13 21:57:44 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:57:44 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] missing posts...... Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220545@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Would a kind person please send me 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 from this year? Thankyou i think it was cause our puters crashed over the summer break, all is well now but lots of things went missing grrrrrrrrrrrr I'll post properly later and send my condolences to all the sad slaves who lost a dear little furbaby over the past few weeks, i'm so sorry and know how you feel :o( Chat to you all soon Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From kaplans at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 13 21:54:13 2009 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:54:13 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Health [cereal] References: Message-ID: <0F682A02E023400B96024BEE486B8764@stephensucks> Hi Jean and the misfit 14, I would think that the cheerios would be fine as long as they are the plain ones, not the sugar or honey coated. I do not know about the rice crispies as I don't know weather rice is good for piggies or not. : ) Sarah and the piggy gang ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Gpdd Digest, Vol 8, Issue 13 > Send Gpdd mailing list submissions to > gpdd at gpdd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gpdd-request at gpdd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gpdd-owner at gpdd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gpdd digest..." > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The GPDD moderators frequently reject messages that do not follow > these guidelines: > A lack of a Topic label is the most common reason for message rejection. > Please use a Topic Label (HEALTH, CARE, ANNOUNCEMENT, RAINBOW BRIDGE, > BEHAVIOR,PETER GURNEY, RESCUE, BREEDING, SILLY, PIGLETS, MISC. or > VIRTUAL) and DESCRIPTIVE SUBJECT. 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Re: Misc: example YouTube letter (Cazza177) > 2. [MISC] (Janneke Staaks) > 3. RAINBOW BRIDGE: Tigger (GARY HESS) > 4. [Health] Neutering (Stuart Watson) > 5. [Misc.] Condolences for Tigger (Audrey Binder) > 6. Misc: Horrible Utube video (katelyn newcomb) > 7. Re: Rainbow Bridge (grace ramp) > 8. misc: question on cereal? (ANDREW SILL) > 9. [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Tigger (Debbie Jones) > 10. [ANNOUNCEMENT] Thanks for birthday wishes (Debbie Jones) > 11. Announce: Princess Snowflake & Bertie Pig's Christmas 2008 > Website...FINALLY!!! (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Gpdd mailing list > Gpdd at gpdd.org > http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org > From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 14 13:01:44 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:01:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: stasis and Pine Sol Message-ID: <759469.7144.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm happy to report that The Bun is eating and pooping again, though we still have six days of subcutaneous fluids and three oral meds (antibiotic, antigas, and motility). Man, that's scary. Hershey's no longer subdued, so that's a good indicator that her housemate's improving. ? We have dead rats in our walls (How's that for a change of topic?), and the smell is atrocious. The pest control guy said to spray Pine Sol to mask the odor, but I remember that pine oils are toxic to buns and piggies. Any suggestions? I really need to know right away before my hubby insists on following the pest guy's instructions ? Joanie From agbmcmd at yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 13:42:49 2009 From: agbmcmd at yahoo.com (Audrey Binder) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:42:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [misc.]reply to cereal question Message-ID: <675986.27687.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Reply to Jean, My guinea pig Gordon occasionally gets a Cheerio when I am having some.? I hold one out to him, and he takes it, and thinks it to be a special treat.? We don't do this often, and he only gets about 3 little "O's", at most.? Whatever fruit I am having with the Cheerios, Gordon also get some of that, too.? We have never had any problems with this, and he loves the crunchiness. ? Audrey, Slave to Gordon (Remembering Reese) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 14 15:59:24 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:59:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Princess Snowflake's Christmas site Message-ID: <268359.54348.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've been so stressed out with The Bun's illness and the stinky dead rats that I've had to visit Princess Snowflake's Christmas page three or four times so far just to get my smile back. Thanks, Princess.. Your loyal subject, Joanie From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Jan 14 16:08:46 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:08:46 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Question about cereal Message-ID: <1EB3A1F18EA9400C8651F81B31DB695A@inspiron1150> Jean, I cannot see the logic behind your pet shop man giving his piggies cereal as it is great for the teeth. Surely the fact that it is stale implies that it has gone soft and, therefore, would not require a lot of chewing. I am not familiar with Cheerios. I don't know if they are sold in the UK but, as I don't like cereal myself I am no expert. I know that Rice Krispies contain sugar, which I would not want to give to my piggies. His rats and mice would probably enjoy the cereal, being omnivores. Maybe hamsters too? When I have fancy mice, they get the occasional cornflake. I don't imagine that any harm would befall the Misfits if they had the occasional cereal piece as a treat but I think that a fresh piece would be tastier. My Rodentologist's rabbit enjoys a bite size Shredded Wheat but she doesn't feed these to her piggies. Regards from Penny and the Piggyfriends. From sarah19e at yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 17:58:18 2009 From: sarah19e at yahoo.com (Sarah Erickson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:58:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Hello from Florida (Dee and Joe) Message-ID: <376660.27123.qm@web42108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Dee, This is actually the first time I've posted to the GPDD, but I had to respond to your post.? Guess where I live?? Port Charlotte, FL!? :)? How long are you down here for?? Hope you're having fun...you are down here just in time for the "cold" weather! :) I guess I will introduce myself!? My name is Sarah, and I have a female Abyssinian named Ginger.? I adopted her from a rescue almost a year ago.? I got my first guinea pig, Chewie, in 2001.? He went to the Rainbow Bridge in 2007, and I miss him a lot.? He was very vocal and a "mommy's boy".? I got Ziggy in 2003, hoping that he and Chewie would get along.? They didn't, but they were content to live next door to each other.? Ziggy was quiet and a little shy, but he would give lots of kisses :)? Ziggy piggy went to the Bridge in 2008.? I loved them both dearly, and when Ziggy died, I started looking at shelters for a new little piggy. That's where Ginger came in!? She's adorable and I love her to pieces.? She's a bit shy, but I've worked with her a lot, and she's made a lot of progress since I first got her! I also have a Holland lop bunny that I adopted last year, after my first bunny Zoie went to the Bridge (yes, I lost all of my pets one right after another - it was horrible).? Ginger LOVES Chloe (don't worry, they're housed separately!)? So that's my "furry family".? I've been reading the digest for years, and always enjoy reading everyone's stories.? Hugs to all who have lost a beloved piggy.? Nice to meet everyone! ~Sarah, Ginger, and Chloe the bunny From dukejan1 at aol.com Wed Jan 14 19:19:40 2009 From: dukejan1 at aol.com (dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:19:40 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Thank you Scooter! Message-ID: <8CB44BE17409046-D8-1406@webmail-dd11.sysops.aol.com> Scooter,? I just can't thank you and your Mommy slave enough for sewing such beautiful snugglies for me!? I was thrilled to receive my cozies from Secret Santa, especially 'cause it's starting to get really cold and I love to snuggle.? The scarf was really cool--Mommy slave loves lady bugs---and I agreed she could share.? But she made me promise to share my cozies with my sister Isabel and baby brother Luke.? Thanks also for the miniature pig carvings that are now sitting on a shelf on Mommy slave's secretary.? The card is so pretty---I'll keep that up to look at it and think of you.?? With warmest wheeks, Lily From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jan 14 20:07:23 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:07:23 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ABUSE- piggie on you tube Message-ID: <20090114.170723.16692.3@webmail09.dca.untd.com> I feel like a jerk writing this but I have not watched the video on you tube. With all my mental health problems watching stuff like that just kills me. I go into an even deeper depression when I see or hear about stuff like that. I know that sounds selfish & immature, but sadly that is my mental state right now. Since I can't bring myself to watch it I feel I have no right to write them a letter concerning it. I would like to suggest that someone, perhaps Luita?, you are good with words judging from your letter, could start a petition on a website called Care2. You could get as many people to sign it as possible & mail that to them as well. I completely agree with Luita's letter. If someone wants to start a petition & needs help with the Care2 website let me know. I have done my own petition on there before. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. I have been thinking about something I wanted to write to ABC about since the other night, but can't find the stuff for you guys to watch. On America's Funniest Videos there were 2 videos that really pissed me off. The one had a cat sitting on a lazy boy recliner & someone jumped onto the end of the recliner & flung the cat thru the air. The other one had a guinea pig who was floating on a raft in a swimming pool. A dog swam up & nosed the piggie to the edge of the raft until he finally fell into the pool & was swimming frantically to try to get out of the water. He ended up in one of the drains of the pool. I was really angry about both. I went to their website though & can't find the videos or a address or e-mail to write to. Has anyone else seen these? I'm sorry I can't help more with the you tube video. I just wanted to let you know why. Thanks. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Live the good life! Click now for great retirement planning assistance! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1hgiPe68b7Mb49kSbrGQU7sn12zKcqUwgfuwIV2WKwSxDHg/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jan 14 20:10:59 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:10:59 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- my website Message-ID: <20090114.171059.16692.4@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Does anyone know of a website where I can post my piggie photos? My current site won't let me post anymore. I need something free & idiot proof! I'm a computer moron! I really wanted to post pics of our foster piggie Holli & some other stuff & I haven't gotten to yet cause all the sudden my website doesn't want to work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on a variety of project management tools. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2SNNjyTF6N0iNcTHO1lZrntaRupFllJFv5p5bLt3pExKR4i/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jan 14 20:13:58 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:13:58 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY- digest piggie pics Message-ID: <20090114.171358.16692.5@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Speaking of piggie pics, I would like to start my own little scrapbook of our digest piggies. Can ya tell I'm not working?!? If you could send me a pic of your piggie(s) & their names I'd be really happy! =) Thanks! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ No more waiting. Click now to experience the thrill of high speed Internet! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2W8UzHw0QDNDCVOZEg3CWicWRYpWNWgFlWB1nB1UR2O7wwO/ From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Thu Jan 15 12:36:03 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:36:03 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Stasis In-Reply-To: <809349.47572.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Joanie Someone else on GPDD had a gp who suffered with gut stasis. Hopefully they are reading this and can give you some of their advice and experience on this subject? I hope Bun feels better v. soon. Kind regards Carole ---------- From: GARY HESS Reply-To: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:18:34 -0800 (PST) To: gpdd at gpdd.org Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Stasis The Bun's suffering from stasis. Hershey's being very quiet. She knows something's wrong. ? Joanie From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Thu Jan 15 12:48:14 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:48:14 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Question about cereal Message-ID: Dear Jean I think a tiny bit of cereal would do no harm, but if it were a whole gp-sized dried food bowl full, this might be dangerous, as cereals swell in the stomach unless taken with plenty of fluids. If the cereal were mixed with water for a gp, this might be a nice treat, but high in sugar and of no use to their teeth. Kind regards Carole From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 15 12:52:16 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:52:16 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- pine-sol Message-ID: <20090115.095216.2153.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Joanie- I wouldn't spray that stuff around myself & my pets like that. It's strong & full of chemicals. It might not only make your animals sick, but your family too. Do they know where the rats are at in the walls? I would think it would be safer to open the wall & remove the rats. It can't be good for your health to have dead, rotting animals in the wall! Obviously, this is simply my opinion & not an expert answer in any way, shape or form. Maybe if you call around, other exterminators can give you some suggestions? I hope all works out for you. Let me know. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Embrace e-commerce and sell your products or services online. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3DOF3mIJe3yNCRUNuDcDonD7RnW8bs7pKBkxs41uWBXyqto/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 15 13:02:28 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:02:28 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- welcome Message-ID: <20090115.100228.2153.1@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Sarah, Ginger & Chloe- I'm sorry to hear of your losses of Chewy, Ziggy & Zoie. Welcome back to the digest! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the low cost way to send and receive faxes by email! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw19e520n5B0HeRgyiYPiTBN1MIINF1aJ30NsJJneHJxeln1s/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 15 13:06:03 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:06:03 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- cereals Message-ID: <20090115.100603.2153.2@webmail19.dca.untd.com> I occasionally give a few *plain* Cheerios to my critters if I eat some. My hammie Daisy loves them! I don't think having them every once in a while will hurt them. To use them as part of their regular diet though, is stupid. They have no nutritional qualities to our critters. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Home prices too high? Click here for interest only loans to buy the home of your dreams. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1hUaYzOPtkymRb4XVjzOhJPwIEEPzs3hz9W2n5AqBTtalzo/ From faststats at faststatschecks.com Thu Jan 15 19:33:34 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:33:34 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] silly: treats Message-ID: <0ce501c97772$10f1a9e0$4501fea9@MaryFran> Dear Misfits, Thanks for the treats! We really appreciate them, as our slave NEVER FEEDS US! --Gingerpuff and Miss Muffet From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jan 15 19:31:55 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:31:55 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Stasis and Pine Sol Message-ID: Joanie, That is great news about The Bun. I do hope that he/she continues to improve and makes a full recovery. Stasis is very bad news. As to your rat problem, I had never heard of Pine Sol - no doubt it has never made its way over to the UK - but from what I have read about it on the Internet, it does not seem to be the sort of stuff to be spraying around. I've seen several instances of people suffering from respiratory problems and skin irritation after using it. Is it possible for The Bun and Hershey to be relocated temporarily? I can't imagine how you could retrieve dead rats from what I assume is the wall cavity without actually dismantling the wall. I presume that the smell will linger for some time. The aroma from a bowl of pot pourri will surely not be enough to mask the pong but you need something safe. Any builders or pest control experts amongst our readers? Hugs for Hershey and The Bun. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 15 22:29:41 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:29:41 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Kacee? Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220555@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> I've lost Kacee's new email address, could somebody pass it on, i've not heard from her for ages and i'd like to know how she and the Munchees are doing. love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From ussoccerpro9 at aol.com Thu Jan 15 23:02:36 2009 From: ussoccerpro9 at aol.com (ussoccerpro9 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:02:36 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] New Piggies in the House! Message-ID: <8CB45A666958854-FA8-1509@WEBMAIL-MY06.sysops.aol.com> Hi all! I was searching the internet for guinea pig websites and I came across the GPDD. It sounded like fun so I thought I would join. I've had guinea pigs my entire life, and currently have two wonderfully hilarious piglets named Nutmeg (we all call her Nutty) and Zoey. I purchased Nutmeg from a Pet Store over a year ago. When I got her she was very ill and so I took it upon myself to hand feed her. She wouldn't even drink from the water bottle when I got her. Now she is a fat, snuggly, and very happy piggy. Zoey actually came from a breeder but was?considered "pet quality" and so ended up in a small family-run pet shop. I had hopes that they would live together (I built a very large cage made from storage shelving and cloroplast -?http://www.guineapigcages.com/) However, they do not get along in one cage! They chatter their teeth, nip at one another, and chase each other around. I had Nutmeg first and so?she must have been?jealous when I brought Zoey home. I've tried everything I can think of to have them live together, but for now they live with a barrier between them. Has anyone else had this problem? I've had guinea pigs live together in the past, and I know by nature they are social creatures...but Nutty really can not stand being with Zoey. She is so sweet to her human (and even my dog) companions, but with other guinea pigs she freaks out. Anyway, it's great to join a community that is as nutty as I am about my Nutty and Zoey. Hope to share lots of piggy insights! ? Thanks! From kaplans at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 15 21:35:02 2009 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:35:02 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] GPDD [misc] I lost some posts Message-ID: <3CF4D3E0689042ACB1675E87E120C618@stephensucks> HI Everyone, Can someone please send me the post of the sixth through fourteenth. I was loading a program and something went wrong and I lost all of those posts. Thanks Sarah and the piggy gang From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 16 06:00:31 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:00:31 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc; Website Message-ID: Hi Jaime, if you mean website like Leah makes I would have no idea where to start. If you just want somewhere to store and share photos then I use photobucket, its free of charge and straight forward to use, it takes a while to upload photos so I generally upload 10+ in one go and leave it uploading while I go and do something else. You can then use link either direct to photo or to a whole album to share your pictures. Hope that helps M http://xat.com/piggypeople _________________________________________________________________ Imagine a life without walls.? See the possibilities http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465943/direct/01/ From maeve100 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 16 12:08:04 2009 From: maeve100 at hotmail.com (Liz Parker) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:08:04 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Vertically Cracked Incisor? Message-ID: Hello out there, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this issue before, and could let me know what happened? My piggie Monty, who only has his two top incisors left, somehow managed to vertically crack one of the top incisors from the bottom of the tooth to the root! I have an appointment made, but its not for two weeks (the soonest my vet is open, sigh.) So any tips in the mean time are helpful. Thank you! Liz _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 From magbfouts at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 12:35:32 2009 From: magbfouts at gmail.com (Maren Fouts) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:35:32 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Stasis and Pine Sol Message-ID: I honestly don't see how Pine Sol would get rid of the problem. I would think that until the rats are gone (in one way or another) the smell will still continue to come back. If you could get them out of the wall (and find out how they got in so this doesn't happen again) that would be best, I would think. Then the Pine Sol would be effective, although I wouldn't use it. There are plenty of safe, non chemical solutions to neutralize bad odors. A lot consist of citrus essential oils or some such. I usually look into www.care2.com for healthy living alternatives for things (such as how to deal with the slug problem I have in my garden without using pesticides that will harm my pigs, me, or the ground water). I would do a search on that site or perhaps just a google search for "decomposing animal odor eliminator" or something until you find what you are looking for. We used to get crickets in our house from time to time and my husband went to his dad for suggestions. He suggested Diazinon (sp?) which I was FIRMLY against. I found a great alternative that is plant based and doesn't include chemicals. They are out there, you just need to find it! Good Luck and piggy kisses, Maren, Charlie, and Kaylee From bunzella at yahoo.ca Fri Jan 16 14:21:02 2009 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:21:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Cystitis & Barley Water Message-ID: <824476.79229.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, I seem to have run into yet another question where my inexperience with piggies is showing, and I'm hoping you wiser and more experienced folks can help. Last week when I was cleaning litterboxes, I noticed my piggie Olivia smelled a bit of urine, and being well-versed with such signs of UTI from my experience with Doris (who has been blessedly free of UTIs since being treated with Baytril three months ago --- YAYYY!!!), I scooped Olivia up and had a look. Sure enough, her little butt was wet. (I'd also noticed she was not finishing up her veggies and pellets with quite her usual enthusiasm for a few days, either.) It didn't seem like a severe infection that needed immediate vet intervention yet, so I decided to try Peter Gurney's remedy of barley water, cranberry juice and honey. I was amazed at Olivia's enthusiasm for it --- she absolutely sucked it out of the feeding syringe, 20cc at a time --- and sure enough, within three days, she was dry and cleaning up her food as usual again. Now for my dilemma. Olivia is one of those pigs who literally does not seem to drink at all on her own. (She has both a water bottle and a bowl in her cage, and I must have been through six or eight different kinds of bottled and filtered water, trying to find one she likes, without success.) I know that this (not drinking enough) is a major risk factor for UTIs, and I'm afraid she will continue to develop these unless I can get her drinking more. (I'm already serving her veggies soaking wet to try to up her intake that way.) After seeing her enthusiasm for the barley water mixture, I decided to put it in a bowl for her and see if she would drink it on her own; she will drink some that way, but only if I don't water it down too much. Here is the real question, though: how long can/should I continue to do this? All of the material on using this I've seen only talks about giving it for a few days when a UTI is present. I'm pretty sure the barley water and cranberry juice would not hurt her, but I wonder about the honey (and it's unsweetened cranberry juice, so I'm not sure she would take the mixture if it wasn't sweetened with the honey). Has anyone tried this over a longer term? Even an educated guess would be helpful, since my best guess is not that educated! THANK YOU!!!! Pat (slave to Doris, Audrey & Olivia) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From gypsy1sato at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 13:29:42 2009 From: gypsy1sato at sbcglobal.net (Donna Lenz) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:29:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MSC:- For Lilly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <274076.77565.qm@web82208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lily,Whee are so happy you like your snuggly warm cozys and blanket. Whee also like those treats and hope yuo do too!Thank You for our treats - we are sharing them with the Ratties & Prairie Dogs.My Cage Slave loves the towels and says to thank your Slave furry much for her.Popcorning in Happiness?Scooter, Buttercup, Squeakie & Annie??? From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 17:03:16 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:03:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Stinkin' rats Message-ID: <725123.50162.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I talked my hubby out of the Pine Sol, which contains the dreaded phenols, and tried an antibacterial called Oust, which is safe to use around birds with proper ventilation. You know how sensitive birds are, so I feel a lot better. And yes, it's working! We just don't spray too close to the girls' cages. Whew! Thanks, everyone, for your advice. Now if I could only keep the ratties out of the walls in the first place! ? Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 17:10:54 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:10:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Cereal Message-ID: <369379.76283.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Go lightly on the cereal with your piggies. It can unbalance the gut flora, especially if it's really sweet. I'd hate to see any of them get tummy aches.The Bun just reminded me of the importance of a happy gut. Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 17:20:07 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:20:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC.: Another complaint against America's Funniest Message-ID: <925212.1052.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> America's Funniest Home Videos also aired a clip with a kid singing a song and squeezing his piggy at the end of each line, making it squeak along with the music. I'd forgotten about it until now. It was sad.:( I hope they're not teaching people to be callous to their fellow beings, but I suspect they are, in their ignorance. ? Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 17 02:12:06 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:12:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome Zoey and Nutmeg! Message-ID: <771478.15549.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Welcome to a very nice and helpful community. I'm a newcomer, too, and have already learned so much! Looking forward to hearing more about you and your piggies. ? Joanie From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Sat Jan 17 11:17:09 2009 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:17:09 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Artie isn't well Message-ID: Dear all Artie has some form of respiratory condition at present, for which I have given him a diuretic (Lasix). I have also been given Baytril and Metacam by the vets agter they saw him today. Artie has not had Metacam before, and since giving it to him, he seems to have gone off his food. Has anyone else given their gp's Metacam and experienced this as a side effect? Thanks Carole From ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 17 12:27:53 2009 From: ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com (Stacy Harvey) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:27:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] (Health) Re: Artie Message-ID: <764555.78851.qm@web53009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Carole, ? The combination of the Metacam and the Baytril is probably upsetting his tummy. Metacam is an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) and can cause stomach upset. If you've ever taken ibuprofen (Motrin) or even aspirin on an empty stomach, you know what I mean. Try offering Artie something tasty before the Metacam to be sure you actually see him eat something; you could also syringe him some Critical Care first. ? We hope Artie is feeling better soon. ? -Stacy and the Squee Squad From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jan 17 12:19:08 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:19:08 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY - digest piggy pics Message-ID: <401169D15D0C4C468E49A31650AC56BD@inspiron1150> Jaime, My elder son, Sean, ( the pigsitter ) is home this weekend and we are taking pigtures of all of the Piggyfriends as his camera is much better than mine. When they are sorted out, I will send the best ones for your scrapbook. Penny and the photogenic ( if bribed with veggies ) Piggyfriends. From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Jan 17 12:29:39 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:29:39 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ABUSE- Pig squeezing Message-ID: <20090117.092939.29503.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> I saw that stunt on the show "Pet Stars" that used to be on animal planet. I wrote & complained, for all the good it probably did, & stopped watching the show. I guess these shows are getting desperate for things to entertain people. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Free information - Learn about Internet Advertising. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2SpgMlxfLMprzYUBGH0fxEeLje8jbh2we1mPhnT4tn30Hjw/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Jan 17 12:31:55 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:31:55 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- metacam Message-ID: <20090117.093155.29503.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Carole- Albert went off his food some when he was on Metacam. Hope Artie will be ok. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Find the perfect Wheel Chair. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1lvUsSIrARcLJmikVWQ2DfDjVA6ue5lUaLFL1hnbZDJjV46/ From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jan 17 13:20:05 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:20:05 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc; Piggy treats Message-ID: Hi all this is really for the UK slaves, my local Tesco which is one of these big ones that sell everything you could ever want have a range of animal products in stock at the moment. They have what they call a cat tube and what Fugly calls a nap place as shown here http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/piggypals/Fugly%20Feb%202007/PICT0434.jpg they are ?2 at the moment but be warned dont wash in the machine as I did the wire escapes and the tube collapses. They also have carriers for vets trips and what they call a cat hideaway which looks remarkably like a piggy hide away to me lol. I also got Fugly some hay cookies from P at H today, someone on here mentioned them awhile ago, Fugly loves his when he had munched all he could he used it as a pillow. So thats my piggy treat tips for now if anyone has anymore please let me know M From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jan 17 13:27:01 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:27:01 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] health; emergency tips Message-ID: Hi all I thought it would be a good idea if we could share emergency tips for those things that happen either late at night or when you cant get a vet appointment and need to act straight away. I know when you cut a piggy nail to the quick you can use styptic pencil to stop the bleeding but I am sure there is something else you can use if you dont have a styptic pencil, something you may already have at home does anyone know what I mean?? A few months back now Fugly woke me in the early hours as he was coughing it was obvious to me he had something stuck in his throat, instinctively I turned him onto his back and opened his mouth at which point some carrot came loose and his coughing stopped. 1) Is turning them on their backs the correct thing to do or did I just get lucky? 2) How would/has anyone else treated a coughing/choking piggy? If anyone else has emergency tips to share I would love to hear them, I am trying to put together a piggy medical folder for myself and all help is much appreciated. M From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Sun Jan 18 12:31:06 2009 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:31:06 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH - emergency treatments Message-ID: Good idea to have an emergency list. For a nail cut too short, apparently dipping it in cornflour or melted candle wax will stop the bleeding. I've only ever done it once, but you should have seen me trying to get this wriggly foot into flour and wax whilst in a complete panic. Jaime, I have 18 piggies and sending you a photo of each one would probably clog up your inbox and fill your scrapbook! Would you like a selection?! Stefanie and The Surrey Squeakers _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC?? Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Jan 18 13:00:54 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, Fireball Message-ID: <49736E56.2080403@geeksnet.com> Jocelyn, Little John, and Flashbang Fatbottom, please excuse our very belated condolences for Fireball. We had so hoped that he would be able to recover, and we are so very sorry for his passing. Our hearts were with you when he went in for his bladderstone surgery, and it was so great that he came through with flying colors. It was with much sadness, then, that we read of his liver problems and possible diabetes, as well as the noise he made when he was breathing. Sometimes piggie illnesses remain such a mystery. Please know that you indeed did everything you could to get him well. It was so touching to hear of how you told the court office about him when you had to be a juror the day his liver was being checked. Thank you for sharing some of your memories of him, such as how he would wheek to wake you up for his breakfast and how looking into his face could take away your stress. Fireball was a lucky boy to be so loved, and we have no doubt that he knew of his good fortune. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Jan 18 13:06:10 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:06:10 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: P.S. for Fireball Message-ID: <49736F92.3040307@geeksnet.com> Jocelyn, we also meant to say that we're so very sorry that Fireball's passing happened right at Christmas. Piggie passings are always difficult, but going through saying goodbye during the holidays seems to be even harder. We know, having lost our Sunshine in December 2007. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From cindyb at gmail.com Sun Jan 18 13:15:16 2009 From: cindyb at gmail.com (CindyB) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:15:16 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Introducing Our Herd Message-ID: I'm a new subscriber and wanted to introduce myself and the family herd. My husband and I live in a very rural area of Virginia. We recently lost our much-loved bunny (8 years old) to a bunch of infections, and decided to rescue a few cavies from local shelters. We wound up with 4, and here they are: Peaches: She's the largest, the most well-adjusted, and the most athletic. The vet says she's right around a year old. She's a tad overweight, but doesn't eat any junk and is very active. Reese: She's a gorgeous dark brown with some lighter brown highlights. Her hair is a little longer than the norm, so perhaps there is some Peruvian in her background? She is *very* shy, but we are spending more time with her and she's starting to relax a bit. Peaches and Reese came from different people but were housed together at the shelter. A couple weeks after they moved in with us they started fighting, so we quickly came up with new coroplast & grid apartments. Now they both live by themselves and are much happier. Jay is our only boy, and we had quite a scare with him. We got him neutered, and while getting an injection, the main nerve in his back right leg went numb. It took several weeks to get the nerve to recover and get the use of his leg back. He also stopped eating for a day or two during all this, and he's our tiniest cavy so we worry. We're still trying to put the weight back on. Jay's companion was supposed to be another boy, but surprise!, she was a girl, and, of course, pregnant (because the shelter housed the 2 together). We named her Diva (for her wheeking ability) and the vet had us set up a special maternity ward in our bedroom where it's quiet and the lighting is dim. She'll be giving birth any time now (2 babies according to the x-ray) and we're very, very nervous. As soon as Diva delivers her babies and the vet says it's OK, we'll be moving her, the kids, and Jay into 1 huge apartment. CindyB From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Jan 18 13:22:25 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:22:25 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: belated condolences, Tigger In-Reply-To: <496AC106.7000107@geeksnet.com> References: <496AC106.7000107@geeksnet.com> Message-ID: <49737361.2060103@geeksnet.com> Stacy and the grieving Squee Squad, it was with much sadness that we read of Tigger's passing. We definitely remember the Maryland piggie rescue of 2004 -- Sunshine (RIP) and Tumbleweed came to us from that awful garage. Thank you for being part of the rescue efforts by volunteering to clean cages. We are so sorry that Tigger had lost a leg, but how lucky she was that you adopted her and how wonderful that she knew such love by being a cherished member of your family. Please know that you did your best to get her well and to help her gain back her weight; it is good that you were able to find out that she had hyperthyroidism so you could get her on the proper medication and keep her weight stable. We know it was so difficult for you when she didn't want to eat and was so tired as she sat in your lap on her final day. Yes, we imagine that she indeed was glad to stay in her warm cozy in a clean cage when you had to go to work, and we are sure her journey to the Bridge was a peaceful one. Please accept our belated condolences on her passing. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Jan 18 13:10:12 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:10:12 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, Buster, Emily, Daisy, Miss P, and Stella Message-ID: <49737084.3020609@geeksnet.com> Mike, we were so very sorry to hear of the piggies you lost in 2008. Please accept our very belated condolences on the passings of Buster, Emily, Daisy, Miss P, and Stella. It's hard enough to lose one piggie in a year, and we know it must be exponentially harder to lose five. It was very poignant to read the notes you placed by each piggie's name; it's very obvious that each was a beloved member of your family. We know Buster, Emily, Daisy, Miss P, and Stella enjoyed all of their days with you, and we're sure they've been reunited at the Bridge. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sun Jan 18 17:00:48 2009 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:00:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome Zoey and Nutmeg! Message-ID: <82548.48341.qm@web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A big welcome to Zoey, Nutmeg, and their slave. We call ourselves guinea pig slaves because we are always taking care of and giving food and treats to our piggies. You will learn so much about guinea pigs here. It is a very good and caring group! Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com From rzm.2 at juno.com Sun Jan 18 17:36:57 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:36:57 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- nail trimming Message-ID: <20090118.143657.6558.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> M- I have heard of dipping the toenails in cornstarch or in flour. When I used to trim Molly's toenails I always kept a Dixie cup of flour next to me just in case. I only ever cut too short one time & immediately dipped it in the flour, which stopped the bleeding. I felt sooooo horrible! I don't cut Mimi's toenails cause they are jet black & I can't see the quick. I'm so afraid I will cut too short that I take her to the vets & let them do it. It only costs $7.00 every couple months, so I don't think that's too bad. As for other emergency tips, I always keep a bottle of baby's simethicone on hand, in case of a gas attack & some liquid Immodium. Also I keep painkiller & motility meds on hand just in case too. My vet ok'd the painkiller & motility meds after I talked to him about it. Also important is to make sure they don't get expired either, since I don't need them often (thank God!) If I think of anything else I'll let you know. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ See the Internet how it was meant to be seen with Cable Internet. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1Zvc2PrCaWoBcVaanHYcBEOZmWhdjlKpWnyUVxZQR4hBzQC/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jan 18 17:43:51 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:43:51 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Hello and Welcome! Message-ID: <3554CDE1B20A4B91B9994F2D32DBD38C@inspiron1150> We would like to welcome Nutmeg, Zoey and their slave to the GPDD. It is a shame that Nutmeg and Zoey do not get on together, especially when you have created such a big cage for them both. I expect that you have already tried shampooing them both and introducing them in neutral territory. I always have my sows in groups and they get on well together with one exception. Years ago, my Freya lost her elderly companion, Lima, and although she loved to interact with all the other sows when they went out into the big garden pen, she would not share her indoor space with any other pig. Maybe some piggies just do not want to share. Most times, when a new sow arrives, after quarantine she goes straight into one of the groups without the slightest fuss. Usually it is a case of "Hello, let's eat" and away they all go. We hope that you will enjoy being a part of this lovely group of piggy slaves worldwide. Penny and the Piggyfriends ( a piggy sanctuary in England. ) P.S. We also want to say " Hello" to Sarah, Ginger and Chloe in Florida. Having sent your first post, we hope to hear from you again. From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 18 19:00:00 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:00:00 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Ancouncement: Dexter/ Secret Santa Message-ID: > Dear Dexter, > I am so sorry that its taken me so long to write to you. Slave Alge and I really enjoyed our Christmas package even though she did make us wait until Christmas to open it. She's sorry too, that she waited because some of the gifts could have been used before Christmas. But not to worry. My ornament still got on the tree and with all this snow and ice here, her snowman pin in very fitting. We are arguing over which of us should have the adorable hand made Christmas pillow -- its quite beautiful." She seems to think I'd "soil it." Indeed. I've been snuggling in my comfy cavy cozy and eating my treats, sharing them with Barnacle Bill. We both thank you very much. Your friend, Barnacle Bill and Alge ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 18 19:26:33 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:26:33 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Tribble/ Secret Santa Message-ID: Dear Tribble, Thank you for the pictures and the wonderful cavy-cozy "tunnel." I don't think I should have to share it with Barnacle Bill but even when I'm in it he comes charging in and will give me no peace. Of course if he's in his cage, I don't get bothered. But to tell the truth, it has been fun with both of us playing in it. And I shouldn't be mean to Baracle Bill; he's on antibiotics and has had blood in his urine. (None now, but it cleared up and then came back all while on his UTI medication. He's stilll on the medicine which he loves.) He's only7 months old so a bladder stone is unlikely, but momma had him x-rayed for one anyway, just in case. Ebeneezer was misdiagnosed as having a UTI and it was a bladder stone and the odds were against a successful surgery by the time Momma found an exotics vet. She says, "the weekend thing." You know how she is about "suffering." She doesn't want us to suffer. But I digressed. The tunnel is really unique and I thank you and your ever-so-nice slave for picking something I'd so enjoy as well as being so different. Momma has enjoyed the glasses and has been saying someting about feeling like an old hippie -- watching a light show on the Christmas tree. Your friend, Captain Jack (and Alge) ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/def ault.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 18 19:43:30 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:43:30 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Piglets Message-ID: "Piglets" can be used as part of the subject line, like Announcement, etc. by younger members of the GPDD. You could use it but you don't have to. Love to Lizzie from the Caribbean PiggyPirate Crew. Alge and Crew ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgI D=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 18 19:49:56 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:49:56 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc.: You Tube email address Message-ID: Does anyone have You Tube's email address? Please send it to me directly (as well as posting here) and if it is returned to you because my mail box is full, send it again in another day or two. I appreciate it. ALge ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bc d=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 18 19:52:28 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:52:28 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Link to the horrible GP/Snake video?? Message-ID: The subject line is the question. Thanks, Alge ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bc d=DecemailfooterNO62) From jocelynm at umich.edu Mon Jan 19 08:58:48 2009 From: jocelynm at umich.edu (Anderson, Jocelyn M) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:58:48 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Introducing Edgeworth Message-ID: <3AF9B038A6B07641B36C799ED4EBB0D701F043F9@ITCS-ECLS-1-VS3.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu> Hello peegies and people, Yesterday Little John and Flashbang Fatbottom took a trip to meet a rescue for a piggy meet-and-greet hosted at a PetCo for a possible new cage mate. Little John has been moping since Fireball left, while Flashbang tries to snuggle up to Little John like he did to Fireball, but he's having none of it. A clean towel was laid down in the bottom of a shopping cart and all three piggies were introduced. I was expecting a grand piggy melee, but Little John decided the towel was more interesting and starting licking it. Flashbang was bug eyed for a while before sniffing around. There was some chasing after that, but I was amazed how well they were getting along! We tried some other piggies, but they were much more feisty and there was some tooth chattering going on. We took this first piggy home and named him "Edgeworth." There has been some chasing going on between Flashbang and Edgeworth, but it looks like normal piggy play. This morning Flashbang and Edgeworth were snuggled together in a pigloo! It seems like a really good match. :) Here's a picture of Edgeworth: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3206568363_4b5031a640_o.jpg ! Jocelyn, Little John, Flashbang Fatbottom, and Edgeworth From dfhakes at aol.com Mon Jan 19 10:11:09 2009 From: dfhakes at aol.com (Dana Felice) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:11:09 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005401c97a48$295dfff0$7c19ffd0$@com> M, If you accidently cut a nail, you can make a paste of water and flour. Oftentimes, just gentle pressure will stop the bleeding. The girls have taken the picture of Fugly in the tube and hung it on their walls, like you might hang up the picture of a rock star. They think Fugly is very handsome. Dana From MFug at live.co.uk Mon Jan 19 11:21:50 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:21:50 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; LAPS Message-ID: Hi all, I have just been on the LAPS page and it has been updated to add Bertie Pig. Still no sign of Fugly on there though, could someone let me know where to send his details to so he can appear on the blog to. Thanks M http://xat.com/piggypeople From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 19 12:20:57 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:20:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Finding the horrible GP/snake video Message-ID: <603214.48377.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alge, I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but it can be found by following the link that appeared a couple weeks ago that had the adoreable piggie song. It was one or two videos past that if you're looking for the title. I'd like to know how to flag the video as mentioned in yet another video to let the YouTube folks know it's objectionable, but I don't know how. Instructions? ? Joanie From luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de Mon Jan 19 13:30:13 2009 From: luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de (luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:30:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: YouTube's email address Message-ID: <1297.77.185.53.87.1232389813.webmail@portal.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Hello everyone, YouTube does not make it easy to contact by email, but I did come up eventually with this address: service at youtube.com Don't feel like you need to watch the video to complain! I only watched the first two seconds of it, and that was enough. Luita Bert and Cinja From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Jan 19 17:15:56 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:15:56 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- piggie pics Message-ID: <20090119.141556.29935.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Stephanie- A selection would be good. Surprise me! =) ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Visit the Big Apple. Click here for information on vacation packages and tickets. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2hdOUBltTep4lfu56HVXN17nv1F2c2HlvlqVHlgjjzCJA2q/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Jan 19 17:19:00 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:19:00 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- welcomes Message-ID: <20090119.141900.29935.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Cindy- We welcome you & "the herd" to the digest! We look forward to hearing more about you & your piggies & hope the pregnancy goes ok & everypiggie is healthy. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ The strong, silent type. Click here for great looking bamboo flooring! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2d22kGmYRTZKXWB2p2TzSRSvANoQwyruMo29tEFNfGmoGqS/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Mon Jan 19 18:04:59 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:04:59 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Welcome new piggies Message-ID: <71361AC5976F4DFEACCF617F0EF959A3@inspiron1150> We would like to welcome Cindy B to the Digest along with Peaches, Reese, Jay and Diva. We wish Diva well with the forthcoming birth and sincerely hope that you will have some healthy babes to introduce to us all. Poor little Jay. What a shock that must have been. I'm so pleased that he regained the use of his little leg. Regards from Penny and the Piggyfriends ( a cavy sanctuary in England ). From piggyfriends at tesco.net Mon Jan 19 18:11:05 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:11:05 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Welcome Edgeworth Message-ID: Jocelyn, I am so pleased that you have another little boy to love after losing dear Fireball. He looks so handsome in his pigture and is the same colouring as my Peony. I wonder where his name comes from? The town in England? The attorney from the anime series? If it is the latter, he will come in useful when those little pirates get into trouble. Congratulations. Give him a hug from us all. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 19:08:01 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:08:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Edgeworth! Message-ID: <298947.13398.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi to Jocelyn, Little John, Flashbang Fatbottom, and Welcome to handsome Edgeworth! He is gorgeous!? Enjoy him and please keep us posted on the antics of your new little boy. Congrats! Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci and Sweetie We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare, and love we can spare.? And in return, dogs give us their all. ????????????????????????????????? - M. Facklam From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 19:13:36 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:13:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Cindy & Pigs Message-ID: <731429.65677.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi CindyB.? Welcome to this wonderful group!? I am Joanne from Mahopac, New York. I have 3 dogs, 5 cats, 6 piggies, 1 (foster) bunny, and fish...ALL rescues!? I know how nervous you must be for Diva to have her babies.? I adopted a baby pig from a rescue and she shocked everyone by being pregnant (by her father).? She had 2 baby boys and amazingly, did just fine even though she was so tiny and young herself.? I wish you the best of luck with the upcoming babies.? They are absolutely precious and so special!? Enjoy your new pigkids! Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci & Sweetie We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare, and love we can spare.? And in return, dogs give us their all. ????????????????????????????????? - M. Facklam From sarah19e at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 19:20:20 2009 From: sarah19e at yahoo.com (Sarah Erickson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:20:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Thanks for the welcome! Message-ID: <916076.25392.qm@web42104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi everyone!? Thank you to everyone who has sent such a kind welcome to me and Ginger and my bunny Chloe!? We just love to read everyone's funny stories, and it's nice to have piggy people to talk too. We're glad to be here!? Well, it's almost veggie time for the girls, so I had better go!? :) ~Sarah, Ginger, and Chloe the bunny P.S.? Condolences to anyone who has recently lost a beloved piggy :( From Algernon07 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 19:31:04 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:31:04 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Contacting You Tube-- snake videos Message-ID: I thought I read that there was a place beside each video where comments could be made or the video could be flagged. Maybe videos are numbered -- even in thumb nail size and reading only titles I couldn't see any way to identify these horrible videos. There are several such videos -- I guess I could just write to you tube (thank you Luita for sending general email address for them. I think I deleted it acidentally. Cannot find it. Think the subject so shook me up that I hit the wrong buttom. Could you send it again??) again, I could just write to you tube and give my response to the whole sick category. And yes, it is a category!! Not an isolated single-- what do you call those mini videos on you tube?? Thanks! Alge ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bc d=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 19:46:59 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:46:59 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Anouncement: Welcome Edgeworth Message-ID: He's adorable. What a friendly and personabe looking little character. And welcome to the other new piggies I've missed! Alge and the Caribbean Piggy Pirate Crew ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/def ault.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 19 17:49:39 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:49:39 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Belated Condolences for Tigger Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF92322056C@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Stacy and the Squee Squad i was so sorry to hear that little Tigger lost her fight :o( RIP Tigger run free at the bridge, have fun popcorning and munching on all the green grass and dandelions xxxxxxxxxxxx (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))) and special loves from me to you and the SS's xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Thankyou for such a beautiful tribute for the little sweet girl, i remember her antics so well, another of our loved piggies at the gpdd. Lots of love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 19 18:10:27 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:10:27 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome to Stuart, Oscar, Cuprum, Hydragyrum, Charlie and Elpis Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF92322056F@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HELLO AND WELCOME to the gpdd from me in OZ xxxxxx I have no piggies at the moment as our dear little man Dukey passed over to the bridge in October last year :o( I was so sorry to hear about Oscar and his little friend Wild RIP Wild run free at the bridge, have fun popcorning with the other piggies and munching on the clover and grass xxxxxxxxxxxxxx You've come to a very friendly forum, everyone is totally in love with all their animals :o) Looking forward to hearing more about your lovely piggies. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 19 17:50:40 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:50:40 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] SCAMPS Bertie Pig Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF92322056D@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> CONGRATULATIONS Bertie Pig well done on joining the SCAMPS, keep on munching you gorgeous boy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 19 18:36:26 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:36:26 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Zoey and Nutmeg Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220571@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HELLO AND WELCOME to the gpdd from me in OZ :o) Really looking forward to hearing more about you two little ones :o) You'll love being on the gpdd, you might be able to go to one of the virtual occassions soon, i'm sure we'll be having one again soon!! Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 19 18:55:00 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:55:00 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Edgeworth Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220572@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HELLO AND WELCOME Edgeworth, i'm sure you're going to love your forever home with your friends Flashang Flatbottom and Little John xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You'll be thoroughly spoilt by mummy slave Jocelyn too (just ask the other two how to get more treats from her, i know that they're real good at doing that ) Looking forward to hearing more about you real soon xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 19 18:16:58 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:16:58 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Cindy B, Peaches, Reese, Jay and Diva Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923220570@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HELLO AND WELCOME to the gpdd from me in OZ :o) What a wonderful thing you did going and rescuing all your piggies, i'm sure they love their forever home xxxxx Ooooops sorry to hear about little Diva being pregnant i hope all goes well xxxxxxxx Please keep us updated, particularly if you could show us their pigtures and even the mini's when they arrive :o) I'll be looking forward to hearing more about your little ones, you'll love being on here everyone is so friendly and very very helpful. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 19 18:03:25 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:03:25 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Belated Birthday wishes for Soulage and Sable Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF92322056E@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Congratulations little darlings on turning 6 years old, i hope you got spoilt with extra treats (silly me of course you would've i know your slave just adores you) Wishing you both many more wheeeeeeeeking good times and years ahead, sending you both lots of nose rubs and kisses on those cute little ears xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From cmartinez36 at comcast.net Mon Jan 19 21:23:18 2009 From: cmartinez36 at comcast.net (cmartinez36 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Edgeworth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1557470613.2213471232418198498.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Edgeworth is so cute yet handsome. Adorable! Friendly looking. he looks very happy to be home with you guys! Congratulations to Flashbang and you guys. May you all have much happiness and health together. Carla, Apache and Remy From pandameisje at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 03:38:53 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:38:53 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: LAPS site and contact Message-ID: Hi all, I think people who have a LAPS piggy can email heather at: eickmeha at gmail.com (that's what is on the site) The website of the LAPS is: http://cavies-laps.blogspot.com/ I hope the update on Bertie will mean Heather is back..? Grtz Mikey the Winky girls: Guiny, Dunya and Woopy and the shelter boys: Chico and Toby (teeth tip top in order!) -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From MFug at live.co.uk Tue Jan 20 04:26:17 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:26:17 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement; welcome to new piggys Message-ID: A big welcome to Cindy and piggys Peaches, Reese, Jay and Diva and of course the bubs cant wait to hear more about them and of course you must share photos. Edgeworth- Jocelyn he is a gorgeous boy Glynis will go mad for those little piggy lips and I love his piggy antennae also known as whiskers Zoe and Nutmeg and slave a big welcome to all Its great we are getting lots of new members M + Fugly http://xat.com/piggypeople From juwles at bigpond.com Tue Jan 20 08:39:25 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:39:25 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: - disgusting and horrific snake videos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E7EBFD576134B3DBB2071250B51C61F@JuliePC> Hi all I cannot bear to watch or even think about watching those disgusting sounding videos. It is making me sick just thinking about what those creeps known as human beings are doing to those precious and adorable piggies. If someone was to grant me 3 wishes........... I would put all 3 wishes into asking that no animal ever again suffers at the hand of any human being! I can't see u-tube doing anything about the videos - they probably are getting such a large audience and wouldn't want to lose the audience! To think that the life of a dear little animal could be reduced to a ratings number is so very very sad and pathetic that creepy people get their kicks out of such behaviour. Let's all pray that someone with some goodness in their heart stops this behaviour and stops recording the behaviour; Julie & her very precious & beloved piggies here (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba) and at the Bridge (Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie, Brandy - oh!, how desperately I miss my boys! From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 20 13:57:01 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:57:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to Cindy and piggies Message-ID: <946123.29569.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is really exciting having new friends and piggies. Can't wait to hear more from you and, of course, your piggies, which have been known, in other herds, to sneak into the computer room and type us messages with their cute little paws when we're not looking. Joanie From cindyb at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 14:01:04 2009 From: cindyb at gmail.com (CindyB) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Thanks for the welcome & A Question Message-ID: Thanks to everybody for the wonderful welcome. And particularly to Joanne--hearing about your adopted baby who (successfully) had babies was the most reassuring thing we've heard. Our vet has said that everything "should" go just fine, although he wasn't very happy about how small our little Diva was. Of course she's a lot bigger now LOL, but she *is* very young. We've been trying to get pictures, but it's tough. Reese is very dark, almost black, so she is generally just a black blob in the photo, and our expectant mom runs into her grass hut if she even sees a camera. It's amazing, because she's totally calm until the camera shows up. Guess some ladies just don't like their picture taken on a bad hair day. :) Question: The vet says we should leave mom & kids alone for a couple days, but we've got her on towels (didn't want the babies covered in aspen shavings), which we change twice a day. We absolutely *can't* leave 3 cavies on 1 set of towels for 2 solid days. Would moving them from one half of the apartment to the other while we change towels upset them too much? What do you think? CindyB From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jan 20 16:34:23 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:34:23 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE Cindy B's question. Message-ID: Cindy, I can sympathise with you about taking a pigture of a black pig. I took a lot of pigtures last weekend for Jaime's scrapbook and Shadow, my black Texel boar, looks like a blob too. Even his eyes don't show up very well. I tried sitting him next to a white friend for contrast but I am not impressed with the result! I have had 18 babes born here at Piggyfriends to rescued sows who came in pregnant and I can assure you that moving mum and babes will cause no problem to any of them. Babes can safely be picked up from day one with no worry about mum rejecting them as can happen with some other animals. The sooner you handle them the tamer they will become. So go ahead and change their bedding as often as you feel is necessary. The babes will be running around on their first day so you can change one end of their towels when they are at the other end of their home. Our Rodentologists, who only treat piggies, often have mums and babes in their hospital and they move them around too. It is not ideal for Diva to be pregnant at so young an age but three of my mums were little more than babes themselves and coped admirably with the birth and care of their little ones. It is always amazing to watch them come into the world and then, after only a few hours, set off on their own to explore their pen and start picking up food. Have a hotline to the vet ready in case of any emergency with the birth itself but hopefully all will go well. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 20 17:12:21 2009 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:12:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Pigglets: Lizzy Message-ID: <992898.61817.qm@web46402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi it's Katie again thank you for giving me the e-mail address I have sent them?a letter and I'm hoping they will do something about this. I also have some questions about guinea pigs. Lizzy has pea eye. It's fat around the guinea pigs eye. I can't seem to get rid of it. If you would like to see a pigture of it incase it isn't what I think it is my e-mail is guineapig97 at yahoo.com . Thanks, Katie and Lizzy From Algernon07 at aol.com Tue Jan 20 21:44:20 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:44:20 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: You tube snake videos Message-ID: yes-- videos, plural. I did a you tube search on snakes and guinea pigs. I saw only the tiny pictures beside each title so think that the only way yo address it to You Tube is to protest the categry. Surely there is some legal was to prevent ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%2 6bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Tue Jan 20 21:54:32 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:54:32 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: You tube snake videos complete Message-ID: Yes-- videos, plural. I did a you tube search on "snakes and guinea pigs." I saw only the tiny pictures beside each title (and tried to avoid looking directly at them) so think that the only way to address it to You Tube is to protest the category. Surely there is some legal was to prevent this. But probably not. Rodents aren't yet offered legal protections to the best of my knowledge and then there's the old fall-back of "feeder animals." The thought sickens me. I'm sure one could run a "rats and snakes" search among others and come up with things equally abominable. Thanks for an address, Luita. If anyone missed it, it was: service at youtube.com Alge, who just doesn't understand.... ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Tue Jan 20 22:08:00 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:08:00 EST Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Wretched videos Message-ID: One can create petitions at care2.com I don't have it in me any longer to set up such a thing but what a potentially good way to let "You Tube" know how strongly many feel about this horrifying practice, let alone permitting it to be viewed on You Tube. Even organizations like the SPCA could be contacted to participate. Alge ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bc d=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Tue Jan 20 22:13:07 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:13:07 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Virtual Events Message-ID: <<>> Glynis, Mary Fran twice mentioned what a good time it would be for the piggies to go on a pirating excursion now that hurricaine season is over. It just occurred to me this A.M. that this is now tax time for her!! Drats! Also, welcome to all the new piggies and peoples. Alge and the Caribbean Piggy Pirate Crew ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/def ault.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From matildalucet at earthlink.net Tue Jan 20 23:17:01 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:17:01 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] health: weight loss Message-ID: Mr. Mike T. Pig's broken tooth has mostly grown back in beautifully. He is off his antibiotic and eating independently pretty well. We're still supplementing him with Critical Care because he has been dropping weight. Before the whole tooth incident, he weighed in at 1670 or 1680 grams. He bounced up and down for a while, but now has dropped below 1600 for two nights running. This has made Steve Slave quite concerned and I confess I'm a little perplexed. For about a week, he was peeing bright yellow, the color of highlighters his vet said. She had never seen pee that color from a pig before and ultrasounded him, but there were no stones or sludge bits. (She let us watch and it was cool.) The bright yellow pee seems to have mostly stopped. There was some blood spotting in the pee after that vet visit, but that cleared up and we don't know what it was about. Now he is drinking water more and losing weight. Any ideas what's going on with our boy? His normal vet is out of town but there are a couple of other exotics vets in her practice so we could take him to be seen, but I'd like to go in with some ideas. -ginger co-slave to Mr. Mike T. Pig remembering Niles Cougar, Butterscotch J. Furpants, and Clover Bud From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 21 10:15:27 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:15:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] health: trigger Message-ID: <248021.2605.qm@web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello fellow guinea pig lovers:) well not a good day.. little Trigger is still not better.. and today he seems to have turned worse.. just when i think he was getting better.. so have a visit with vet today.. he is having labored breathing.. was on sulfamethoxazole? twice a day for 10 days.. he seemed like he ws turning around.. but this morning is another story.. Ihave been giving him cc to keep up his strenght while i was doing the antiboitic..? I just feel so bad for the little fellow.. he is such a sweet pig.. Will let you know what i find out.. but just wanted to up date you on little Trigger. he is only 4 months old.. He was one of two surprises our little rescue piggie amilea? gave us:) Paw hugs to you all, Jean and misfits 14 From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Jan 21 10:42:09 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:42:09 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Weight loss. Mike T. Pig. Message-ID: <0EC28C02D332432A84AE9CFAD0C7A07A@inspiron1150> I am pleased to read that Mike T. Pig's tooth has grown back properly. A few suggestions about his health. There are various causes of yellow urine. It can be the body's way of excreting a surplus of either Vitamin C or betacarotene ( the colouring agent in carrots ). Asparagus also does this but it is probably not on Mike's menu. My son has seen this happen in rabbits at the shelter when their urine can turn a frighteningly bright rusty orange colour if they have had too much Vit C. Dehydration can be a cause of yellow urine though this seems unlikely if he is drinking more. Drinking extra water combined with weight loss might be a sign of diabetes, about which there is a wealth of info on GuineaLynx http://www.guinealynx.info/links.html#diabetes Also follow the link at the bottom of the page through to " Hazel and Ginger's story." Years ago, my Miss Piggy had similar symptoms to Mike T. Pig - losing weight and excessive thirst. I wondered if she was diabetic but could not find a vet who could do a blood test for this, let alone prescribe medication so I experimented with dietary change ( similar to that which is now on GuineaLynx ) and she lived to be a very elderly lady. Best of luck with Mike T. Pig. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From Algernon07 at aol.com Wed Jan 21 12:41:47 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:41:47 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Lizzy's Pea Eye Message-ID: Hi Katie, You can send me a close up picture of Lizzy if you like, but I think your diagnosis of "pea eye" is quite accurate, Jolly Rodent Mr. Cooders had pea eye though it was mild when he was younger. It gradually became more pronounced and finally, when he was about 5 years old, the fatty tumor part of his eyes was quite prominent. My vet declared him "obese" and said that was the cause of it. Silly man! (the vet) Cooders later did lose some weight but not because I put him on a diet, which I didn't do. However, less of the fatty tumor (the cause of pea eye) was visible after the weight loss. But the weight loss was because he was a sick piggy and getting older. I wouldn't worry about pea eye at all unless it crowds out the seeing part of the eye and I've never heard of that. From the picture I've seen of Lizzy, she looks just fine! As for your letter writing -- bravo! I'm proud of you - I'm sure we all are! You're a delightful young lady. Alge and the Caribbean Piggy Pirates ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default .aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From bunzella at yahoo.ca Wed Jan 21 12:00:17 2009 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:00:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Barley Water, Take 2: Much Shorter!!!! Message-ID: <492421.54839.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello again, I didn't get any replies to my earlier message about cystitis and barley water, but I now realize that my original message was so long and boring that most of you had probably fallen asleep before reaching the end where the questions were! I'd still like your opinions, so here is a much shorter version... My piggie Olivia had a UTI which I treated with the traditional remedy of barley water and unsweetened cranberry juice with a tiny bit of honey. The UTI cleared up, but I'm worried she might keep getting them if she doesn't start drinking more (and I've really really tried to find a kind of water she likes already, without success). So I've continued to give her a bowl of the barley water & cranberry mixture (with more water added to it) in her cage and at the moment, she is still drinking it quite well. If this is the only way to get her to drink, do you think I should continue or not? (All the material I've founded on barley water only talks about short-term use when the piggie actually has the UTI.) THANK YOU!!! Pat (slave to Olivia, Doris & Audrey) __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 21 12:50:07 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:50:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Trigger Message-ID: <200690.9668.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, Just got back from Vet with Trigger.. Well? Vet said his right lung is giving him heck which is making him wheez. his cold is now worse.. even with the antiboitcs, and ccare. so she switched him to? Metolopromide 2 to three times a day to get him to start eating. Ihave been giving ccare.. and gave him doxycyline? 2 times a day, and enrofloxacin two times a day also... sure hope this helps the little fellow out..? any other ideas to help him would be greatly apprieated. He is such a dear little boy. Very very worried mommie, Jean From Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com Wed Jan 21 12:17:46 2009 From: Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com (Schumann, Jan) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:17:46 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health:Lizzy and pea eye Message-ID: <97D9DEF598590A4C9466AE49E94D4546042D7B0D@KMHPEXSC20.kmhp.com> Katie, My Tribble has pea eye (also called fatty eye.) It does not seem to bother her so the vet said to leave it alone. Sometimes, it will absorb back in and sometimes it won't. Tribble is not fat so it's not from that. If it doesn't seem to bother Lizzy, I would leave it alone unless it changes shape or color. Then, I would take her to the vet. I hope this helps. Jan Mom to Tribble, Zathras, and Leela, Lokia in my heart Jan Schumann Medical Affairs Data Analyst Select Health of South Carolina PO Box 40849 Charleston, SC 29423-0849 843.569.4847 p. 888.824.7788 f. www.selecthealthofsc.com Mission: We help people get care, stay well and build healthy communities ============================================================================== CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic mail or its contents by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. ============================================================================== From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 21 13:52:10 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Hershey's first successful photo shoot Message-ID: <656256.18114.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I managed to get some nice shots of Her Hershiness, and was wondering how to make them available to her potential admirers, especially Fugly, whom she considers a boar to be adored. I know nothing about computers, but my kids do, if I?tell them?what?they're supposed to do. She should be getting another hair cut today, and I'll take another round of pictures of her in her new style. Maybe I'll even be able to see her feet and legs! ? Joanie From eickmeha at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 16:06:02 2009 From: eickmeha at gmail.com (Heather Eickmeyer) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:06:02 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Laps Message-ID: Hi Laps Members, I'm sorry for leaving you in the dark for so long. I've been ignoring the LAPS blog for quite some time now. Both of my piggies had some major health problems in the spring (Seussy had cancer and Hamlet had a stone.) They had operations within weeks of each other. Honestly, it scared me and I promised myself that I would spend less time on the computer and more time with my babies. My pigs have a terrific (grand understatement) vet and I don't think either would be around if it wasn't for her. Seussy is 7 years and 3 months old. I think that qualifies him as a SCAMPS member. In the spring, he was diagnosed with cancer. The vet wasn't able to remove it all. Some of it was located behind a major neck vein and as a result was given a very grim prognosis. With much prayer and help from God, I honestly believe he was healed. Everything looked on the up and up until the past month. He was having problems breathing and I was sure the cancer was back. I was wrong but the news still wasn't good. The vet diagnosed him with a heart problem. Fluid is building up in his heart. Really bad news, I know. He's on medicine every twelve hours and luckily is having more good days than bad now. So that's very good. I think he likes all of the extra attention. It could be all of the snacks that I give him as bribes to take his medicine. Hamlet is doing well. He had a bladder stone removed but I'm terrified he will get yet another stone. You know how these stone piggies are prone to recurrences. He's 5 years and 2 months and that's not young for a piggy either. He also goes to the vet every month for a teeth trim. One of his bottom teeth refuses to grow so he has to have all of his front teeth trimmed. He is a real trooper about it. He's used to getting his snack chopped up into tiny bites and being hand fed. Strangely he can eat hay and Cavy Cuisine just fine. But if anything happened to Seussy, I'm afraid he would die of a broken heart. Hamlet adores Seussy. And then there is my dog who we adopted as a special needs pup a year a half ago. She's not operating at a full lung capacity because of an illness she had before we adopted her. While we finally seem to have that problem under control, she's now having unexplained allergies. We have to rub ointment on her belly everyday. We've already cut out wheat, corn, beef and chicken from her diet. So she's on a special diet and she goes to the vet a lot!! Our next step is to take her to a vet dermatologist - I didn't even know they existed. So that's the jist of my story and the reason I've been ignoring the LAPS blog. I didn't really want to burden you with all of my problems but I felt you needed to understand. I hope I didn't depress anyone but writing this. The good news is all of my animal babies are happy at the moment and my vet is a gift from heaven. So I'm thankful. But I want you all to know that I didn't leave you guys hanging for no reason. I know how all of your piggies are very special so let me know what I need to update on the blog (http://cavies-laps.blogspot.com/). I'll try to update what I can in the coming week. It may not be as detailed as it once was. I may disappear again but don't take it personally please. I'm just focusing on my own family. Heather From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Jan 21 17:05:52 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:05:52 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Barley Water Take 2. Message-ID: Hi Pat, I read all of your original post and I replied. Where did my post go? Lost somewhere in the ether along with all the other lost emails. I always read every post however long it may be. I wonder if any other messages have met a similar fate. The short version of my reply was that I have never given piggies barley water long term but my guess was that it could do no harm as you are making a perfectly natural product. I have only used it until the UTI has cleared up ( and we have mercifully been free of UTIs for a long time ). I guess that is tempting Providence and I will be brewing up the barley water next week. I know that you can continue with the plain, unsweetened cranberry juice for as long as you like, as a preventative. Many of my piggies never drink but they do get a vast amount of juicy veg every day so I would not be worried if Olivia does not drink. I'm not sure about the honey but I will be seeing our Rodentologist on Friday and I will ask her advice. Don't worry - no one is ill - just a routine visit. Hope this post makes it. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From faststats at faststatschecks.com Wed Jan 21 17:11:49 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:11:49 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual: Message-ID: <004401c97c15$421ddaa0$4501fea9@MaryFran> Ahoy, ye porky piggy pirates! Aaaaaarh, wheethinks it's time for a piggy sail in the Carribean on the first of May. What say ye all ??? Wheeks, First Mate Gingerpuff and First Cook Miss Muffet (and [tax] slave, Mary Fran) From faststats at faststatschecks.com Wed Jan 21 17:17:28 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:28 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] health : highlighter pee Message-ID: <004b01c97c16$0c12e760$4501fea9@MaryFran> Hello Ginger & Steve, Glad to head Mike T Pig's toofie is better. Were you giving him Vitamin C? That makes "highlighter" pee! --Mary Fran with gpuff and mmuff From faststats at faststatschecks.com Wed Jan 21 17:19:47 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:19:47 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] health : Vit C Message-ID: <005201c97c16$5ef8acd0$4501fea9@MaryFran> By the way, I don't think yellow pee is from an "excess" of Vit C. The body just pees away whatever it do?sn't need, so it's not toxic or anything. --Mary Fran From ussoccerpro9 at aol.com Wed Jan 21 17:40:01 2009 From: ussoccerpro9 at aol.com (ussoccerpro9 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:40:01 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Questions Message-ID: <8CB4A3054E420DE-984-4EC@WEBMAIL-MY07.sysops.aol.com> Thank you everyone for the warm welcome to Nutty and Zoey! A few questions/comments from your responses: 1. What exactly are virtual occasions? 2. I think that everyone here has it right when they refer to g-pig owners as "slaves." I often find myself sneaking past the room where the piglets are kept to avoid loud wheeking fits. You'd think they had been starved for days. My boyfriend gives in to their cries with lots of cucumbers, but I try my best to keep them on a feeding schedule. Nutmeg is much too large in my opinion. 3. Are we allowed to post images of our piggies? I have some really funny and cute ones that I'd love to share, but it does not seem as though the discussion board has this capability. Hope to hear from you all shortly! From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 21 20:47:47 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:47:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Triggers Message-ID: <507334.96938.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear fellow piggie lovers, Its with the saddest of hearts I have to tell you that our little Triggers passed to the bridge this afternoon.. It still doesn't seem real.. Our little boy fought so hard too. Even after a second vet visit it just wasn't enough to help him.? After his vet visit (which is 30 min drive) I brought our little Trigger in? the house and again held and sang little piggie songs that I make up.. and told him soon his daddy would be home from work as his daddy only worked a half day today as He was to take me to Dr for some medical tests that I needed this afternoon. So little Trigger looked? at me with his lovely big dark eyes that could just melt your heart, and it looked like he was saying I am waiting for my daddy to get here... so when Andy came home I put little Trigger on his chest while he sat in his "big chair" as we affectionately call his lazy boy chair.. and little Trigger continued to labor his breathing.. but he was? snuggling into? Andy just like old times.. he loves to snuggle up next to his warm neck. Then about 5 mins into the snuggle time little Trigs looked like he was gasping for air.. opening his mouth wide.. and looking at Andy and me.. he never whimpered or said a thing.. then he gave a big jerk movement.. and we both knew he just had a stroke as he then couldn't move.. we petted him and cried and told him how much we loved him.. as our little boy? drifted to the bridge..? aww my sweet little boy..? I will miss him terrible..? His brother will miss him terrible too..? I watched this little boy enter into the world?with his brother?on that Sept 18th at 3 in the morning..? and such joy he has given us.. such a beautiful marked piggie...? I am just heart broken..? I know all to well that you all understand our pain... Heart broken mom and dad. Jean and Andy and the now misfits 13 (missing triggers and lavern) From ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 21 22:57:06 2009 From: ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com (Stacy Harvey) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:57:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] (Bridge) Thanks Message-ID: <226944.1078.qm@web53004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My thanks to all who wrote to me personally and/or on the Digest about Tigger's passing. Just knowing that other people understand the pain of losing a precious piggy makes it much more bearable. ? I'm sorry I haven't been able to answer everyone yet; work has been crazy and we've been short-staffed because of the unusual 6 inches of SNOW we got here in North Carolina (how much did you get Leah?) I've been coming home exhausted. The hubby and I are going out of town this weekend for our anniversary...I promise I'll answer your posts when I get back, if I haven't already. ? Again, thank you so much. ? -Stacy and the Squee Squad From lconsuela at yahoo.com Wed Jan 21 23:37:03 2009 From: lconsuela at yahoo.com (Leah McNeil) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:37:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Princess Snowflake & Bertie Pig's Holiday 2008 Website Message-ID: <360651.50876.qm@web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hola Piggies & Slaves! I didn't realize that my piggies' Holiday website was down. So, I just fixed everything and it's back up and running. Sooooo, if anyone/pig had trouble getting on, then please try again cuz it's back up: http://home.roadrunner.com/~lconsuela/Christmas2008.html Have a Good Night!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake & Bertie Pig :-) From MFug at live.co.uk Thu Jan 22 01:57:14 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:57:14 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Trigger Message-ID: Hi Jean has the vet listened to Triggers heart? I know in humans laboured breathing can be a sign of heart problems which once identified can be treated with a diuretic to start with while more research is done. Of course this may be different for piggies, just an idea of something else to look at. Hope Trigger is feeling better soon M From dfhakes at aol.com Thu Jan 22 12:46:31 2009 From: dfhakes at aol.com (Dana Felice) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:46:31 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: UTI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004101c97cb9$5d01c1c0$17054540$@com> >From Pat's post: (All the material I've founded on barley water only talks about short-term use when the piggie actually has the UTI.) Hi Pat, I'm a fan of simple over complex but in certain circumstances you need to rely on the guidance of a veterinarian. Many non-exotic vets incorrectly diagnose a condition as a UTI when in fact it is symptom of a larger problem. So, the first red flag for me is, does the piggy actually have a UTI or something worse? Second, there is a pain component to the UTI that is not addressed with a barley/cranberry beverage. Experiencing pain will delay the healing process and possibly lead to other issues such as not eating (and then you have a really big problem). I just talked to a lady this week who did all these things and tried all these things to clean up a severe case of mites in a rabbit with internet-suggested remedies. She caused the bunny severe pain and prolonged the issue when 1-2 trips to the vet to receive a shot would have solved the problem. She was trying to save money at the expense of causing harm to the rabbit. Hope your little one feels better soon. Dana From dfhakes at aol.com Thu Jan 22 12:58:10 2009 From: dfhakes at aol.com (Dana Felice) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:58:10 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: Pirate Activities Message-ID: <004b01c97cba$fd1f2d90$f75d88b0$@com> Hello everypig, Mommy thinks whee are sleeping but whee are very busy. Whee want to go on the Caribbean trip in May and whee are hoping that the flotilla will depart from the Port of Tampa, where whee live. Also, whee would like to invite anypig that can't wait until May to join us at Gasparilla in Tampa in early February. This is a real pirate fest with ships and beads and fun. Here is more information: http://gasparillapiratefest.com/index_event.shtml Love, Penny, Lucy & Mina From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 22 13:12:11 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:12:11 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- babies Message-ID: <20090122.101211.14349.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Cindy- When Mimi had her babies, we left everyone alone for the first 24 hours or so, then the next evening I got Mimi out & put her in the playpen on some towels. Then carefully got each baby out & put them in with her. They did fine. Baby piggies are born ready to go. Sure, they are delicate, but they are born with their eyes open & ready to run around & munch some food within a couple days. They just need their mom to nurse & get the nutrients from her milk. They're tougher then we give them credit for. I hope everthing goes smoothly. Keep us up to date! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Save up to 30% on student health insurance. Click here to compare programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1gFmFLZUXiEyufDPvIaWl5g4hOErzDqbII3BNGnrTnBF9bw/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 22 13:31:13 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:31:13 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- labored breathing Message-ID: <20090122.103113.14349.1@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Jean- Sorry to hear little Trigger is still having problems. Labored breathing can be a sign of heart failure. He may need some Lasix. Ask your vet. Keep us updated. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Make sure your shower gets you clean. Click now for a high quality shower filter! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1wwjbjU4VUCSBRJpaPSK9xd7gzeYCpm6s7DX2tzQp4WSL8y/ From matildalucet at earthlink.net Thu Jan 22 13:45:02 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:45:02 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] health : highlighter pee Message-ID: <1481A173-4D13-4D9F-8DE2-89EF3C327B51@earthlink.net> You know, I think Steve Slave was giving Vitamin C water every day for a while there. It's funny, we've seen orange pee and brown pee and clear pee and sludgy pee, but never that particularly bright shade of yellow before. Piggies keep you on your toes! -ginger co-slave to Mr. Mike T. Pig still losing weight, now below 1600g > Hello Ginger & Steve, > Glad to head Mike T Pig's toofie is better. > Were you giving him Vitamin C? > That makes "highlighter" pee! > --Mary Fran > with gpuff and mmuff From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 22 13:49:50 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:49:50 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- water drinking Message-ID: <20090122.104950.14349.3@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Pat- I did read your original message (the whole thing, no napping I swear!!!) but I don't really know what to tell you. Have you tried just syringing her some plain water? Maybe she'll take it that way. Sorry I don't have any better advice. I hope she feels better soon. Keep us updated. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here for great quotes from top international movers! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw28IuvBb3xVG7PdAYuA1IV1XLmF9IuR3ooIqYdtvvZ0ewFJU/ From matildalucet at earthlink.net Thu Jan 22 13:53:47 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Triggers Message-ID: <9B4D6B66-4FB2-46A5-93C7-C7009CD50905@earthlink.net> I'm so sorry Triggers lost his fight. Thank you for sharing his last snuggles. It made me cry, but it also helps to know what to expect when it is time for a pig to go. How lovely that he was able to snuggle before he had to go. Holding you in our thoughts, -ginger > Dear fellow piggie lovers, > Its with the saddest of hearts I have to tell you that our little > Triggers passed to the bridge this afternoon.. It still doesn't > seem real.. Our little boy fought so hard too. Even after a second > vet visit it just wasn't enough to help him.? After his vet visit > (which is 30 min drive) I brought our little Trigger in? the house > and again held and sang little piggie songs that I make up.. and > told him soon his daddy would be home from work as his daddy only > worked a half day today as He was to take me to Dr for some medical > tests that I needed this afternoon. So little Trigger looked? at me > with his lovely big dark eyes that could just melt your heart, and > it looked like he was saying I am waiting for my daddy to get here... > so when Andy came home I put little Trigger on his chest while he > sat in his "big chair" as we affectionately call his lazy boy > chair.. and little Trigger continued to labor his breathing.. but > he was? snuggling into? Andy just like old times.. he loves to > snuggle up next to his warm neck. Then about 5 mins into the > snuggle time little Trigs looked like he was gasping for air.. > opening his mouth wide.. and looking at Andy and me.. he never > whimpered or said a thing.. then he gave a big jerk movement.. and > we both knew he just had a stroke as he then couldn't move.. we > petted him and cried and told him how much we loved him.. as our > little boy? drifted to the bridge..? aww my sweet little boy..? I > will miss him terrible..? His brother will miss him terrible too..? > I watched this little boy enter into the world?with his brother?on > that Sept 18th at 3 in the morning..? and such joy he has given > us.. such a beautiful marked piggie...? I am just > heart broken..? I know all to well that you all understand our > pain... > Heart broken mom and dad. > Jean and Andy and the now misfits 13 (missing triggers and lavern) > From bunzella at yahoo.ca Thu Jan 22 15:28:29 2009 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:28:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: UTI In-Reply-To: <004101c97cb9$5d01c1c0$17054540$@com> Message-ID: <693290.52703.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Dana, Thanks for your input! I have been "around the block" with urinary problems with one of my other piggies, Doris, and believe me, if there had been any sign of blood in Olivia's urine, squeaking while she was peeing or ANYTHING more dire than a damp bottom, she would have been whisked in to the vet immediately. I was using the cystitis remedy from Peter Gurney's book, which stipulates clearly that if the barley water mixture does not clear up the problem in three or four days, you do need to see a vet. (Fortunately, in this case, it did work, and Olivia has been dry and vacuuming up her food with her usual enthusiasm in the ten days since then.) I am definitely not a fan of people who play fast and loose with their animals' health for the sake of a few bucks, but be assured --- I'm probably at the other end of the spectrum; amongst the three piggies, my three cats and two bunnies, I think I am probably putting several of the vet's kids through college! (I do know that I singlehandedly paid for the vet practice to acquire proper piggie and rabbit dental tools because I happened to be the first of their owners willing to pay for those procedures!) Pat --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Dana Felice wrote: > From: Dana Felice > Subject: HEALTH: UTI > To: gpdd at gpdd.org > Cc: bunzella at yahoo.ca > Received: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:46 AM > From Pat's post: > > (All the material I've founded on barley water only > talks about short-term > use when the piggie actually has the UTI.) > > Hi Pat, > > I'm a fan of simple over complex but in certain > circumstances you need to > rely on the guidance of a veterinarian. Many non-exotic > vets incorrectly > diagnose a condition as a UTI when in fact it is symptom of > a larger > problem. So, the first red flag for me is, does the piggy > actually have a > UTI or something worse? Second, there is a pain component > to the UTI that > is not addressed with a barley/cranberry beverage. > Experiencing pain will > delay the healing process and possibly lead to other issues > such as not > eating (and then you have a really big problem). > > I just talked to a lady this week who did all these things > and tried all > these things to clean up a severe case of mites in a rabbit > with > internet-suggested remedies. She caused the bunny severe > pain and prolonged > the issue when 1-2 trips to the vet to receive a shot would > have solved the > problem. She was trying to save money at the expense of > causing harm to the > rabbit. > > Hope your little one feels better soon. > > Dana __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jan 22 14:47:35 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:47:35 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Triggers Message-ID: <4E39ACDBDB28405C92EA8DBB1AA2091E@inspiron1150> Jean and Andy, I am sorry to read that little Triggers hs lost his fight for life. All of us here understand how heartbreaking it is to lose one of our little ones but it especially tragic to lose a young one, who has not had the chance to experience a happy piggy life. I was about to post suggesting that a diuretic might help with Triggers' breathing when I saw your sad message. We all send our most sincere condolences on your loss. R.I.P. precious Triggers. With our utmost sympathy and hugs to the Misfits. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 22 16:39:07 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:39:07 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- LAPS website Message-ID: <20090122.133907.10633.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Heather- I'm sorry to hear you've been having so many problems with Seussy & Hamlet & your dog. Of course your family (pets included as family!!!) comes first! I don't blame you at all. More people should prioritize like that. I hope things get better & I will keep you & the critters in my thoughts & prayers. Take care of yourself. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here to earn your certificate or MBA online to jumpstart your HR career. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1ScpMca6XMWNFiFGxDpvqVhBRWIzM4AYlW7cmMov26p5epI/ From bunzella at yahoo.ca Thu Jan 22 17:06:13 2009 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:06:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- water drinking In-Reply-To: <20090122.104950.14349.3@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <135844.20184.qm@web31508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Jamie, Thanks for responding. Olivia was VERY unhappy about getting plain water from a syringe --- I tried that during the original infection. (On the other hand, she sucked the barley water mixture out of the syringe as fast as she could, which was what gave me the idea that she might drink it herself out of a bowl.) For the moment, she's fine; all symptoms of the UTI disappeared after three days on the barley water mixture. I'm just concerned that we will run into more trouble down the road if I can't increase her water consumption. Also, my piggies are very social with me, but they all get a little stressed about being picked up. I know part of this is that usually the only time they get picked up is for *bad* things like medicine or nail trims; I've thought many times that I could make it easier on all of us if I made a concerted effort to get them more used to handling and having good associations with it, I just haven't done anything concrete about it yet... Pat --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Jaime wrote: > From: Jaime > Subject: HEALTH- water drinking > To: bunzella at yahoo.ca, Gpdd at gpdd.org > Cc: rzm.2 at juno.com > Received: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:49 PM > Pat- > I did read your original message (the whole thing, no > napping I swear!!!) but I don't really know what to tell > you. Have you tried just syringing her some plain water? > Maybe she'll take it that way. Sorry I don't have > any better advice. I hope she feels better soon. Keep us > updated. > > > ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ > ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ > http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ > > ____________________________________________________________ > Make sure your shower gets you clean. Click now for a high > quality shower filter! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1wwj9ahRr6Bj9P62nn6VscxhqmDJqp6Ks0etrJdNPokmRx0/ __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 19:09:06 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:09:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Triggers Message-ID: <424783.35830.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh...we are so sad to hear that Triggers has passed.? It must have been so comfy and reassuring for him to be among his mom and dad who loved him so. I hope you're doing okay.? It's soooo difficult to lose these precious little ones. "Rest in Peace, Triggers". With sympathy, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci and Sweetie We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare, and love we can spare.? And in return, dogs give us their all. ????????????????????????????????? - M. Facklam From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 22 19:21:23 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:21:23 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090122.162123.25335.2@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Jean & Andy- I am so very sorry to hear about Trigger. You did everything possible for him & I am positive he realized that. I have never been there when one of my piggies passed away, but I have heard others talk about them opening their mouths & sometimes making running motions with their feet. I guess it's just a normal reaction from them. I don't think it means they're in pain, they probably don't even know they are doing it. I'm glad he got to spend his final time with the people who loved him most, snuggling with his daddy like he loved to. Mimi had her babies on Sept. 18th too. His life was far too short, but at least filled with love. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on college degrees. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1U6RpqjCZtMUzriwee1PPvXbSII8DgYe3t5WlvbuwZNfVgq/ From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 22 21:35:22 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:35:22 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Virtual Even for May Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205A3@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Mary Fran and Alge well done!! I'll look forward to reading all about the upcoming event :o) Maybe i could be slave helper? Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 22 21:36:16 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:36:16 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Mike T Pig Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205A4@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Glad to hear your getting better little guy, we'll keep our paws crossed that you improve more each day XXXXXXXXX Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 22 21:37:57 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:37:57 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Hershey's pigture Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205A5@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Hi Joanie, me the original dino when it comes to computers (just ask M she can tell you how hopeless i am), i use Photobucket and have had lots of lessons from M and i can manage quite well. If you log onto www.photobucket.com and sign up you can then paste the link into a thread when you next post. Good luck!! love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 22 21:44:27 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:44:27 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Hamlet, Seussy & Doggie Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205A7@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Heather i was so sorry to read what a terrible time you've been thru with your little darlings :o( I hope that the 3 of them improve quickly xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Of course we all understand you not being on ((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))) to you. Take care and i hope we do hear more from our precious little ones i love hearing about Seussy and Hamlet they were always a fav of Dukey's. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 22 21:51:03 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:51:03 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Questions from Slave of Nutty and Zoey Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205A8@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> 1. What exactly are virtual occasions? Answer: these are events that we 'dream' up, last year in February all the piggies flew via PigAir (don't you just love the name?) out to Australia to be with me and our boy Duke to celebrate his 6th birthday. Everyone joined in and wrote their accounts of what the piggies were up to..........if you go back thru the archives and have a read during late Feb early March you'll get some good laughs it was such a good time had by us all. We also had the PigOlympics held in the US and that was a huge event that all the piggies and us slaves enjoyed. 2. I think that everyone here has it right when they refer to g-pig owners as "slaves." I often find myself sneaking past the room where the piglets are kept to avoid loud wheeking fits. You'd think they had been starved for days. My boyfriend gives in to their cries with lots of cucumbers, but I try my best to keep them on a feeding schedule. Nutmeg is much too large in my opinion. Answer: Sweetie my opinion is that noooooooo piggie is fat, i prefer to say cuddly and as far as im' concerned (my opinion of course) they're better off with a little bit of weight on them cause if they get sick they loose it way to fast........ LOL we can all relate to sneaking past a piggie, no such luck tho is there, they ALWAYS hear you and then demand attention, which as you've learned is what us slaves do so well :o) 3. Are we allowed to post images of our piggies? I have some really funny and cute ones that I'd love to share, but it does not seem as though the discussion board has this capability. Answer: I just posted a note to Joanie, you can put up links to your photobucket or other account and then we can go and check them out and all go awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, so yes please put up some links for us all to admire. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 22 21:56:08 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:56:08 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Trigger Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205A9@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Jean, Andy and the greiving Misfits I was just devastated to read that little Trigger didn't make it.......you tried everything love and i know that Trigger loved you and daddy slave and will continue to look over you and his mates xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx RIP Trigger run free at the bridge sweet little one, have fun popcorning in the meadows and munching on the clover and dandelions, you'll be at home now with many other of the gpdd piggies i'm sure they all welcomed you with open paws xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))) and lots of loves from me, i have sobbed my way thru your post and feel so sorry for you all. Please know that i was willing little Trigger to keep going, but he knew best he knew he had to rest his weary little body, he'll be so sadly missed but NEVER forgotten xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From juwles at bigpond.com Thu Jan 22 22:01:16 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:01:16 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS - NEW PIGGY!!! Message-ID: Hello everyone, Firstly, to those who have lost their beloved piggies lately (and there have been quite a few), I offer my sincerest condolences and pray for your comfort in your time of sorrow. Secondly, I've got some happy news.......... I bought another piggy!! I had always wanted to find a friend for my Wheeky, who is a bit of a bully and whom I've had separated from the others since I bought him. During the day time, I put all my piggies on to towels on the floor - two of them, Donald & Hamish, has free run. My Wheeky gets put underneath the wire top of his cage for his and Donald's protection (they hate each other!). Then, my next new ones which I bought on 1 October (Joey and Kimba) are also put under their wire top for protection. Kimba is now quite a big boy, and comes to his mummy - boy, did my heart sing when he did that for the first time! I felt like Julie Andrews running in the hills like she did Sound of Music! Anyway, I went to a pet shop yesterday to buy more piggy food, and there was a very little baby (8 weeks), so I thought I'd give it a go. I bought him (he's called Snowdrop) and have been sitting in front of the cage with him and Wheeky in - and I am overjoyed to say I think I may have finally found Wheeky a friend!! If anything, that little boy gives Wheeky a nip if Wheeky's being too attentive! I moved their cage into my room last night so I could keep an ear out for any trouble - and am pleased to say that, apart from the rumbling of Wheeky all night, there was no trouble at all. If anything, I think Wheeky is quite possessive of his new mate, warning Donald (who has run of the floor in the day) to keep well away from his baby. I'm going to leave the cage with the other cages tonight, because I feel quite confident that things are going to work out with my new baby - and get myself some sleep tonight!!!! Many happy wheeks to all, Julie & Donald & Wheeky & Joey & Kimba & Snowdrop with Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie & Brandy forever in my heart & soul - desperately missed When Satan is knocking at your door, simply say,' Jesus, could You please get that for me. From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 23 05:53:16 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:53:16 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; Sharing photos Message-ID: Hi Joanie, as Glynis the dino has already mailed to the digest we use photobucket to share out pigtures. All you need to do is log into the website and create a free account you can then upload the pigtures you want from your pc. Once they are uploaded underneath the photo you will have about 4 box that give you various options, if you click on the box that says direct link you can copy it and then paste it into your post to the GPDD, we can then click the link and see your photo. Fugly is looking forward to seeing photos of Hershey, although he is fearful that Samantha will find out and be jealous. Hope that helps M _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 23 05:55:55 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:55:55 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Trigger Message-ID: Jean and Andy we know how heartbroken you must feel with the loss of your little Trigger all you can do is treasure the short time you had together. Trigger was very lucky to be in the place he loved most when he crossed the bridge, with his mummy and daddy knowing how much he was loved. Run free little Trigger have fun and make lots of new friends over the rainbow bridge. Jean and Andy my thoughts are with you at this sad time. M _________________________________________________________________ Love Hotmail?? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 23 08:10:04 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:10:04 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc:LAPS Message-ID: A massive thank you to Heather for the wonderful LAPS introduction she has posted for Fugly and all the other piggies of course. We all understand that your furbabies and real family must come before anything else, and I am sure everyone will join me in sending loads of love to you and your piggies. The great thing about the GPDD is we understand, there is never a need to apologise for being missing, we are more concerned with your and the piggies well being than how you choose to spend your time. You will just have to accept though that if you are missing people will be concerned about you ;) M _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 23 08:14:30 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:14:30 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly: Pirating Piggies Message-ID: Penny, Lucy and Mina, I hope you are prepared to keep Fugly under control he has already booked his pigair flight for the piratefest. He doesnt want to miss a thing and has booked his flight to arrive Thursday 5th cheeky little devil, I hope your mummy doesnt mind keeping an eye out for him for the extra time. He will of course be touring the Caribbean in May as well, I have told him he needs to leave room in his suitcase for mummy lol M _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ From agbmcmd at yahoo.com Fri Jan 23 14:08:25 2009 From: agbmcmd at yahoo.com (Audrey Binder) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:08:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [Misc.] Condolences for Triggers Message-ID: <169774.1295.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Jean, Andy, and the Misfits, We had so hoped that little Triggers would get well.? He was so young, but at least he had as much love as anyone or anypiggie could hope for in a full lifetime.? I am sure he knew how much he was loved, and he is now happy and free of pain, at the Rainbow Bridge. ? Our thoughts are with you and your herd at this sad time. ? Audrey and her GP Gordon (Remembering Reese) From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jan 23 13:42:01 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:42:01 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC LAPS Message-ID: <5A737FC29ECC459695F24AB9A95C591A@inspiron1150> Heather, I am so sorry to read about your pets' health problems and am glad that you have such a great vet. Hugs and wheeks to Hamlet and Seussy and a pat for your doggy. I know that your time is limited but when you do get around to updating the LAPS blog I have to tell you that my dear Daisy left for the Rainbow Bridge on 1st. August 2008. In your absence, we voted that Orinoco take over as President. I'm not sure that we named a Vice President. I can send you Daisy's story if you want to write a few lines. With all good wishes, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From matildalucet at earthlink.net Fri Jan 23 19:41:38 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:41:38 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] health: Mike won't pee Message-ID: Mike had another trip to the vet today for blood and urine tests, which he hated. We should have the test results by Monday. However, despite being given 15cc water by syringe at midday, he has not peed in about seven hours, unless he has been exceptionally clever hiding it. (We've checked everywhere he's been.) If this goes on much longer, we'll call the emergency vet. He has held pee for a while before, but this seems to be a new record. Examination of the penis showed a drop of blood on the tip, once I got the penis to expose, which was harder than usual. He left a drop of blood (but no pee) on the towel I had him on for the midday feed. He peed a little blood after his last vet visit too, which seems odd. I washed the penis gently with warm water. I'm hoping he'll pee on his own. But for future knowledge as well as the present case, how long can a guinea pig go without peeing? -ginger worried co-slave to Mr. Mike T. Pig From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 23 16:56:14 2009 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:56:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] health: pee? Message-ID: <27005.99842.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi it's Katie I noticed Lizzy's pee is reddish. Do guinea pigs have periods too? Katie From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Jan 23 19:12:30 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:12:30 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- welcomes Message-ID: <20090123.161230.29369.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Julie- We welcome little Snowdrop to the digest!!! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ All is not lost! Click now for professional data recovery. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw25hCrP9XxiiThGL6ZaBZ4aTZCAOh4pygyzfCoQ7DWNWCLEi/ From matildalucet at earthlink.net Fri Jan 23 21:44:24 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:44:24 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] health: Mike won't pee Message-ID: Answering myself, a little. I have a friend who is a vet. I hate to bother her on a Friday night, at home, but we were scared. She talked to me, came over to the house (!) and gave Mike a feel. She confirmed that his latest ultrasound showed no stones. Her opinion is that he is not blocked and looks pretty good. She suggests we put more fluid into him and see how he does overnight. If he still hasn't peed by morning, we should call his vet for further instructions. Fortunately, his vet's office is open Saturday mornings. Whew! So the answer, at least in this case, seems to be the little rascal can go many hours without peeing if he is showing no other signs of distress. Almost time for a Power Hour with the water syringe. -ginger co-slave to Mr. Mike T. Pig From pals4pets at cheerful.com Sat Jan 24 11:01:25 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:01:25 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Triggers Message-ID: <20090124160125.376A51BF28D@ws1-10.us4.outblaze.com> Jean and Andy and the now misfits 13 We were so sorry to hear that your precious little boy, Triggers, had finally given up his brave fight and headed for the Rainbow Bridge. We always feel terribly sorry that we can never give advice to slaves who have poorly piggies, but the truth is that we do not have access to decent vet care here ourselves, so never have anything constructive to offer, though we do always remember our poorly friends across the globe in our nightly prayers. We hoped against hope that Triggers would come through this, though we have been around long enough to know that only too often such tragic stories do not have happy endings. Our furbabies put up such courageous battles for us, but at the end of the day they are fragile, ephemeral creatures, and sometimes the lure of that lush green meadow at The Bridge is just too much for them to overcome. We have seen that final huge gasp and the jerk - they are not pleasant to witness, but at least we can know that afterwards the piggie has gone to a better place, where there is no more suffering or pain and they are reunited with all those wonderful piggies we all know that have gone before. Everyone here understands and shares your pain. The heartbreak will never completely go away, but we hope it will ease with time, and that you will gradually be able to dwell more easily on your happy memories of Triggers than on the sad ones. Please accept our heartfelt condolences, and know that we all wish you well at this bitterest of times. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 24 11:50:36 2009 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:50:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] mis:thank you Message-ID: <154742.74407.qm@web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you all my dear guinea pig friends, It ment alot to recieve all yours words of sympathy??for our dear Trigger. Poor little Ringer seems so lost to lose his best friend.. they were brothers and have been together since birth... so we have been giving Ringers extra time out..? He is 4 months old.. we are not sure if we should try to give him another cage mate? I have read that it only works if the two males are brothers... and have never been seprated.. any ideas on this? His cage is next two Patches a almost year old piggie and they look and talk to each other daily.. Thanks agin. Jean & Andy and the misfits 13 (missing Trigger and Lavern) From matildalucet at earthlink.net Sat Jan 24 14:12:18 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:12:18 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Mike T. Pig Message-ID: <8B52D098-8D54-48C7-AD14-49EBA5326DD3@earthlink.net> For reasons we still don't understand, Mike T. Pig left us today for the Bridge. He never did pee again, though another vet trip revealed no blockages. He left with food in his belly, pooping almost to the last minute, in the arms of his slaves. At his final weigh-in this morning, he tipped the scale at 1615 grams, so he died a LAPS pig. RIP, my fat little boy. -ginger remembering Mike T. Pig, Butterscotch J. Furpants, Clover Bud, and Niles Cougar From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jan 24 12:50:18 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:50:18 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Welcome Snowdrop Message-ID: <8E9796F6FF564A4AB4B68758CA13AF20@inspiron1150> Julie, We all want to give a big piggy welcome to little Snowdrop. We are so pleased that Wheeky now has a companion. Everypig needs a friend. I used to have a Piggyfriend called Snowdrop. She was a wonderful girl with such a placid temperament - a real sweetheart. Love and wheeks to all of your little ones. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jan 24 14:31:28 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:31:28 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC A friend for Ringer Message-ID: Jean and Andy, I am sure that little Ringer will be lonely without Trigger. I nearly always keep my boars in pairs and if one loses his companion, I look to rescue a new friend for him. I have brothers, a father and son and pairs of non related boars. Sometimes I introduce a pair of adults or I might put a baby boar with a bereaved adult, depending on who comes along. It can make a world of difference to them both. If Patches is on his own, why not give it and try and pair them up? Do it very gradually. I have been doing this for very many years and usually meet with success. My only current failure is my dear old Sam but, as I was asked to take him because he was fighting at his previous home, this did not surprise me. Despite being neutered by his first owner, he did not even want to live with a group of my sows. He is very happy to chat to Roscoe and Gulliver, the boars next door, but likes his own space. There's a lot to write about introducing boars, so to save me a lot of typing and boredom setting in amongst our readers, why not have a look at this website http://www.susieandpigs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/optionsmenu.htm It is badly written with atrocious spelling and grammar but it does contain lots of helpful info on this subject as well as some lovely pigtures ( and no, I am not responsible for the contents! ) Love to the Misfits, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Jan 24 14:24:47 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:24:47 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- blood in urine Message-ID: <20090124.112447.4893.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Katie- No, guinea pigs do not get periods. Blood in her urine could mean she either has a UTI or possibly a stone. She should see a vet ASAP. I hope she's ok. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2ROkBrbiNw89jZ0QMjjlDVSwQktd05ZDCEBSO5yQXFsk5BU/ From DebraStory at aol.com Sat Jan 24 16:42:33 2009 From: DebraStory at aol.com (DebraStory at aol.com) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:42:33 EST Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Calico very ill Message-ID: Hello Friends: I have been very sorry to hear of all the health problems our sweet cavies have been having lately, and also to hear how many have crossed the bridge. We all send our condolences to those who have lost a fur baby and our healing prayers and wishes to those who are ill. Our dear Calico has been very ill the last couple weeks as well. He has made trips to two different vets and has been taking antibiotics and reglan for his condition. He completely stopped eating and pooping. He also has blood in his urine. His regular vet was off last week, so he saw a new vet. She got him started on the antibiotics and reglan. The reglan helped him to start pooping a little bit again, but he still does not want to eat on his own. When his regular vet came back this week, we also saw him. He examined Calico, changed his antibiotic and did a few tests. Unfortunately, Calico has lost about 10 oz. already even with the regular force feeding of Critical Care and probiotics. His vet is afraid that he has multiple issues going on. Some are due to old age and some due to the fact that he is a stone piggy who always has sludge problems as well. We are all very worried about Calico and are trying our best to keep him warm and hand fed. He is to go back for a recheck in a week. He would appreciate any prayers and well wishes that are sent his way. Calico is going on five years old (March), and we all hope and pray that he will recover and be able to celebrate his fifth birthday in style. Debra and The Story Piggies **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 24 19:25:32 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:25:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: A farewell to Triggers Message-ID: <872854.67522.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Little fellow, your life was not to be measured in those few days, but in cuddles and treats and the love and concern of those who knew you.? We all wish you could've stayed longer, but we thank you for gracing our world for as long as you did. With melancholy wheeks, Joanie From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 25 00:53:02 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:53:02 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Bridge: Triggers RIP little guy Message-ID: So sorry about the loss of Triggers. It seems to have all happened so fast. I know how you must be grieving, but it's good that he was there with you when his time came. Your presence must have been a great consolation to him. Condolences during this time of sadness, Alge ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bc d=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 25 00:55:24 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:55:24 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Gpdd Digest, Vol 8, Issue 24 Message-ID: OK Every Piggy, We're set for our great Pirate adventure the 1st of May. You may even get to dig for buried treasure. The Caribbean Jolly Rodent Piggy Pirate Crew ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm /default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 25 00:57:10 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:57:10 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Care: What is barely water. Message-ID: I have a pretty good idea about what constitutes barley water but how do you make it, how much of what, etc.? Alge ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bc d=DecemailfooterNO62) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Jan 25 01:00:55 2009 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:00:55 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Welcome aboard Slave Glynis Message-ID: Wow, Glynis, we'd love to have a slave helper. Thank you so much for volunteering! Captain Jack and Barbacle Bill ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx? sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62) From warmbreath at comcast.net Sun Jan 25 09:12:10 2009 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:12:10 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] health: Mike won't pee References: Message-ID: <6D31CA5A3A2D4EE587F47099E3D66616@SNADY> Did your vet check the penis itself by extruding it? Sometimes Semen and the fluids dry the whole apparatus stuck to itself. The bath is the fist step, ten gently extrude the penis its full length and then wash it with some oil, as a lubricant. Everyone should do this for their boar once a month. A Warning, inside the last part of the penis to be extruded is a long whitish/ clearish long hook, I'm sure it has something to do with how they copulate. Anyway, that part doesn't extrude so don't try to. Over the years several people have written in with this problen you have and the gentle cleaning fixes it. If the penis gets so gunked up it cant pass urine it beomes a medical emergency After this the cleft between the balls should be cleaned as well, and this can be mild to majorly toxic smelling depending on your boar. When they rumblestrut they drag their nether parts picking up everything but the kitchen sing in the "slot". Before the bath I do a quick clean with Qtips and oil and try to get the big globs of stuff, before the bath. Then in the bath with soap on a gloved (or ungloved hand) finish cleaning with soap or shampoo and wash very thoroughly. Clean the penis in clean water. After these 2 jobs I wash the body with baby shampoo or kitten flea shampoo. Sandy and Manny the Boar, and Manny's pet, Little Pig From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jan 25 11:30:02 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:30:02 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE How to make barley water Message-ID: <5CAD63D2307F4AF4B87122F4D70B70A7@inspiron1150> Alge, Here is the recipe for barley water, though you are unlikely to need it for your little pirates. One part of pearl barley to 8 parts of water. Boil for 20-30 minutes ( you have to watch it as some barley absorbs more water than others and it might burn.) Drain off the water and let it cool. The resulting liquid, which is very viscous, is what you give to the piggy via a syringe. The barley residue can be liquidised along with a favourite veggie and enough water to make a thick soupy consistency. The piggy can eat this from a dish or it can be syringed. Only make a small amount as it must be used within 24 hours. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From pals4pets at cheerful.com Sun Jan 25 12:35:47 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:47 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Mike T. Pig Message-ID: <20090125173547.03DA2606861@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Ginger We were so very sorry to hear that Mike T. Pig had departed for The Rainbow Bridge after his puzzling symptoms had caused you such concern. It can be terribly frustrating when a vet seems unable to diagnose the cause of a problem, as we know only too well from experience. We suspect that sometimes, as has been said so often here, it is just the piggie's time to go. At least he was able to make his final departure from the arms of his devoted slave, and we are sure he knew how very dearly he was loved. At least now he is free from discomfort and running free in that lush green meadow beside The Bridge, stuffing himself with his favourite veggies and meeting all our wonderful piggies who have gone before. We understand only too well how devastated you will be feeling, bewildered and heartbroken. May it bring you some tiny grain of comfort to know that piggie slaves all over the world are thinking of you at this dreadfully sad time, and wishing you well. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jan 25 12:52:22 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:52:22 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement; Welcome Snowdrop Message-ID: Julie and Wheeky we are glad you have found a new friend in Snowdrop. Welcome to Snowdrop we look forward to hearing about your adventures soon. M + Fugly From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jan 25 12:53:51 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:53:51 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Calico Message-ID: Debbie and the Story piggies we are sending loads of healing thoughts and wheeks for your special friend Calico. Calico we hope you can feel the love we are sending you, and we hope to hear all about your 5th birthday soon. M + Fugly From ebak at ca.inter.net Sun Jan 25 14:30:22 2009 From: ebak at ca.inter.net (Evelyn Baker) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:30:22 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [Care] Barley Water Reciepe Message-ID: <1EE105D1-E6F9-40BC-80E2-32FBC5B1A853@ca.inter.net> Hi Alge, I've used this recipe by Peter Guerney for my guinea pigs. They love it. You don't even need to add the cucumber. Here's the link: http://www.oginet.com/pgurney/cystitis.htm From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jan 25 12:50:56 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:50:56 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge: Mike T Pig Message-ID: Ginger and Steve we are so sorry that your little boy never recovered from his mystery peeing problem, at least he was with you and has given you many happy memories to treasure forever. Run free Mike T Pig surrounded by friends old and new Love M From rzm.2 at juno.com Sun Jan 25 16:59:51 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:59:51 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090125.135951.9744.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Ginger- I'm sorry to hear about Mike T. Pig. I always loved that name, by the way. I can't figure out why he would have just stopped peeing like that if there was no blockage. My condolences to you. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family at this very sad time. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Make sure your shower gets you clean. Click now for a high quality shower filter! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1wwj6uOcfyoz70OtE1qKiljlBjnRgAJGZqB2o8c3XCN3shw/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jan 25 17:01:31 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:01:31 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Calico Message-ID: <7B3475A7481E4C5BAF732613988F114E@inspiron1150> Debra, We all our send our best wheeks and wishes for Calico and look forward to his 5th. birthday. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jan 25 17:07:38 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:07:38 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE Mike T. Pig Message-ID: <9AC5E4C7F2824D59A2EB0A530DAAFC37@inspiron1150> Ginger and Steve, We are so very sorry that dear Mike T. Pig has left for the Rainbow Bridge. It is so frustrating when a piggy is ill and even the vet cannot tell what is wrong. We hope that all the memories he has left behind will help comfort you at this sad time. R.I.P. Mike. Many GPDD friends and a host of Piggyfriends past are waiting to greet you at the Bridge. Penny and the Piggyfriends From rzm.2 at juno.com Sun Jan 25 17:06:08 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:06:08 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- Calico Message-ID: <20090125.140608.9744.2@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Debra- We will certainly keep Calico in our thoughts & prayers. I hope he can make it to his 5th birthday too. It sounds like he has a wonderful support system with you & lots of loving care. Keep us updated. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Become a religous scholar today. Click here for more information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3gXOhE0OWqjBkWqkagd8faBFM9ZZcgK1qePeVhAC8miPIUW/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 17:37:58 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:37:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Mike T. Pig Message-ID: <216387.73133.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Ginger: We are sad to hear that you lost your little guy.? Please know that we are thinking of you. "Rest in Peace, Mike T. Pig" Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci and Sweetie "May all that have life be delivered from suffering." ????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? - Buddha From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 25 18:16:18 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:16:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CONDOLENCES: Mike T Pig Message-ID: <802848.20604.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I sure am sorry to hear of Mike T's passing. Even in the short time I've been aboard, I can see he was a special little fellow. I can just almost hear him?wheeking to you from The Bridge to let you know he's all right now. Was he an only piggie like my Hershey? That can be doubly hard. You have our love and sympathy in this difficult time, for sure. ? Joanie From cavyfriend at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 04:44:24 2009 From: cavyfriend at gmail.com (Sherry B.) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:44:24 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] My Beautiful Golden Message-ID: Dear friends, The piggie pals and I are grieving tonite. In the early hours of this morning we said goodbye to our beautiful Golden, who had to be helped across the Bridge at an emergency veterinary clinic. This has all come as quite a shock. I'm still trying to come to terms with what has happened, but it is hard...it all seems so unreal...like a bad dream. I noticed earlier this week that Golden's breathing had begun to look a bit labored at times...not continuously... and when I held him I could hear a "click, click, click" with each exhalation, so I made an appointment for him to see the veterinarian. Other than the breathing issue, Golden seemed his usual bright-eyed and loving self. His appetite was good, he was interested in the things going on around him, and didn't seem to be experiencing any discomfort. After examining him, the vet diagnosed an upper respiratory infection, prescribed an antibiotic, and gave him a vitamin C injection. He didn't seem too concerned, which put my mind at ease, and I took my baby home and started him at once on his medication. This was on Wednesday. Fast forward to Saturday afternoon. I fixed up a bowl of salad for the piggies and made the rounds...Golden was always very eager for salad time, but not today. He poked his head out of his pigloo, took a bite or two from a piece of romaine, and then withdrew back into it. I thought that maybe the medication was upsetting his tummy, so I didn't think too much about it at the time. I had a few errands to run that afternoon, so I thought I'd try again to give him a little treat when I got home. He loved baby carrots, so when I got home I gave him a couple and he took them eagerly. I checked back in a bit and noticed that he had only partially eaten them, but he WAS eating. I certainly didn't imagine that he was getting ready to take a turn for the worse. I had placed a soft, quilted blanket under his pigloo for him to sleep on and later that evening decided to replace it with a clean one. When I lifted the pigloo, he was sitting there...fur all fluffed out and his breathing still labored...could it possibly even be a little worse? It had seemed a bit better on Friday. Shouldn't it have been even better today? I couldn't understand it. Here he was on an antibiotic and it didn't really seem to be helping him very much. How could this be? He was less than 2 years old, very strong, weighed over 3 lbs. and had never been sick a day in his life. He was one of the most loving and energetic piggies I've ever known. There was no mucous around his nose or discharge from his eyes. He had no swollen lymph nodes...no sneezing or coughing...in fact, up until this day he had been moving around like the busy little "tiger" that he was, even with the somewhat labored breathing. Shouldn't he have been well on the road to recovery by now? I moved him to a smaller enclosure, set up a humidifier near his cage and made a tent from an old bed sheet, hoping that the moist air would help to relieve some of the congestion. It didn't seem to help much, but I wanted to try to make him as comfortable as I possibly could until his medicine kicked in. Instead, he seemed to become more and more uncomfortable as the hours passed. By now night had fallen and I was becoming very concerned. I gave him one of Little Suzy's Lasix tablets, hoping this would help to move some of the fluid out. I could now hear more than just the little "click" with each breath that I had previously heard. It wasn't really a wheeze...I don't know how to describe it, only to say that he sounded very congested. What was going on? I mean, he had taken his medicine every day like the little champion that he was. Other than to nibble on a little hay, he hadn't eaten much since I had given him the carrots and his water bottle looked untouched so I tried to syringe some water into his mouth. It was then that I noticed that the color of his lips and tongue had become grayish. I am now a weepy bundle of nerves. He had to have help ASAP, and my only option was the emergency vet clinic, which is about 30 minutes away from our home. I have used the emergency clinic only one other time for one of my piggies and the result was that my piggie died several hours after I got him home. He had received anesthesia and some kind of opiate pain killer during treatment and was never able to throw off the effects of these drugs. He was barely able to raise his head in the hours between the time I got him home and his passing later that night. The vet on duty that day was not very experienced in the treatment of exotics, but he needed help, and it was a Sunday so we had to take the only help that was available. The vet on call last night was very kind, and told me that he did not often treat exotics but that he would do the best he could for Golden. He had placed him in an enclosure with a heating pad and oxygen. He told me that Golden's temperature was lower than normal, and that his heart rate was slower than it should be. He explained that he would need to do an x-ray in order to know how best to proceed with treatment, and after this was done, he gave us the bad news. It was definitely not what I had expected to hear. Golden did not have pneumonia...which was what I thought he had. I thought that the antibiotic that our vet had prescribed was just not working and that his infection had probably turned into pneumonia. I thought Golden would probably get an injection of Lasix and a different antibiotic, and possibly have to stay in the hospital until Monday morning, at which time I would take him back to our regular vet. He explained to us that Golden's entire chest cavity was full of fluid...so much so that he couldn't even see his heart. He said that this could mean that he either had a badly diseased heart, or cancer. Either way his prognosis was very poor, and he felt that the best and most humane choice was euthanasia. I could hardly come to grips with this. I mean, here was a piggie that was very sick, I knew, but surely not at death's door. He was very active in his carrier on the ride to the clinic, as I had him in the same one that I used to transport Suzy to the vet and I guess some of her odor was still there. His breathing was labored, yes, but he surely wasn't lying on his side gasping. I asked him if there wasn't something he could do to help him...to get rid of some of the fluid so that we could do another x-ray later and see what was really going on. He said that he could try tapping into his chest with a needle to pull some of the fluid off, but he thought the procedure would be too stressful for him in his condition and might even cause him to go into respiratory arrest. I asked him if there were anything at all that he could do other than this to help Golden and he shook his head "no". And so, sadly, we consented to the euthanasia. I couldn't put him through a painful procedure that might not help him anyway, and I wanted his last moments to be peaceful, without pain. I wondered if he was, and had been, suffering more than he showed...how could he not be? And then I thought that maybe, if he could just make it until Monday morning, I could get him to our regular vet and maybe he could do something to help him, like he had with Little Suzy, our piggie with the heart condition. Was I being selfish to want to hang on? I loved him so much and it broke my heart to have to let him go. But the thought of him suffering was even worse. I had hoped never to have to make this decision again...there are always so many "what if's" that run through one's mind. Did I do the right thing? Was there really no other alternative? Rest in peace, my beautiful boy. You brought so much joy into our lives from the moment you were born, and we hope you realize how much you were loved. Sorry for such a long post. It has helped me to be able to share this with you. It was such a horrible night. We offer our heartfelt condolences to all who have lost a precious piggie friend...we are grieving with you...and healing thoughts to those who are sick. With heavy hearts, Sherry & the Piggie Pals From juwles at bigpond.com Mon Jan 26 05:48:08 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:48:08 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Mike T. Pig In-Reply-To: <8B52D098-8D54-48C7-AD14-49EBA5326DD3@earthlink.net> References: <8B52D098-8D54-48C7-AD14-49EBA5326DD3@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4CE67C791E8844B1AE03667D19C36063@JuliePC> Dear Ginger Please accept my deepest condolences on the passing of Mike T. Pig. He sounded like a wonderful little (big) boy, and obviously will be sorely missed. He won't be lonely where he's gone - he's with so many wonderful piggies in paradise now. May God help you in your time of sorrow, Julie and her precious boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba & Snowdrop) Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart and soul - desperately missed From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 13:10:37 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:10:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Golden Message-ID: <593940.55719.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Sherry: My heart is breaking for you.? The entire event is so sad and what shocking news to find out. When we need a professional opinion, as you did, and euthanasia is recommended, we have to believe that the vet is right and it was the best thing for your little boy.? It's so terribly sad that Golden was young and had been healthy.? Please don't second guess your decision.? I know we all do, but you saw his decline and didn't want to prolong his suffering.? These babies mean the world to us and I know how much you're hurting.? I am so very sorry. "Rest in Peace, Golden". Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie "May all that have life be delivered from suffering." ????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? - Buddha From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Jan 26 13:40:55 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:40:55 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090126.104055.25006.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Sherry & the Piggie Pals- I am so sorry to hear about Golden. Judging by what you said of his symptoms, it sounds like maybe congestive heart failure. I know how traumatic the emergency vet is. They almost never have anyone who is familiar with exotics. Personally, I think you did the right thing. Putting him thru having a needle stuck in his chest would have just been horrible for him & probably wouldn't have helped in the long run. I had to have Albert put to sleep at the emergency vets in the middle of the night. They were very nice & gave me all the time I needed with him to say goodbye. My husband finally had to take him away from me. They even sent me a sympathy card afterwards. It sounds to me like you did everything right & I'm so sorry you lost him. Please know my thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click to get the coolest ring tones on your phone, fast and easy http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw19Wzwb5sE6fmSVTxUyc6QBUCwMpfnUFXFFf18NFiR0M4uWq/ From suzy at dunser.com Mon Jan 26 13:54:06 2009 From: suzy at dunser.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suzy_D=FCnser?=) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:54:06 +1300 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] My Beautiful Golden Message-ID: Dear Sherry, I am so sorry to hear about Golden. It is hard enough to lose a piggie, without the addition of that terrible second-guessing. Reading your post brought back to me how horrible I felt with Cocoa, when he was getting worse and worse, and I couldn't get any useful help from a vet until finally I was told euthanasia was the only option. But in these cases, all we can do is trust our instincts and know that the decisions we make are out of love for our piggies. You did the right thing, because you loved Golden and made the choice for him that your heart told you was best. He had a good and happy and healthy life while he was with you, and at least this way he didn't spend too long battling a chronic condition that would have compromised his quality of life. I know it's hard to feel comforted, but I hope you feel a little better soon. I can finally look at my photos of Cocoa again without feeling sick, so hang in there, it does get somewhat better with time. You did a great thing by giving a piggie a happy life, and from the Bridge he is smiling and thanking you for that. My thoughts and prayers are with you, and with everyone who has lost a piggie recently, or has a sick piggie... it seems like we're going through a wave of this again. )-: I hope with spring things will get better. Love and wheeks from Suzy and Rocky and Cocoa in our hearts From pals4pets at cheerful.com Mon Jan 26 13:34:11 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:34:11 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Golden Message-ID: <20090126183411.D8D87BE407B@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> Sherry and the Piggie Pals We were so very sorry to hear of the sad departure of Golden for the Rainbow Bridge. We experienced very similar circumstances with the very first Dolly Mixture that ever lived here, Bafreur. His initial symptom was just lack of appetite, and at that first vet visit he showed no real sign of illness to the vet, though to the slave he was obviously very ill. We were given antibiotics to be given by mouth (not much use to a piggie who wasn't eating) and, of all things, liquid paraffin in case he was constipated. Bafreur went downhill fairly rapidly, eventually being treated by drugs recommended over the phone by Vedra of the Cambridge Cavy Trust, but it was all too little too late, and he went to The Bridge at home in the slave's arms, but in a horrible way, not at all peacefully. It was thus we learned that our local vet was clueless about piggies, and we can so identify with your struggle to get appropriate medical attention for Golden. It has been said so many times, our piggies are such masters at hiding illness that they often seem to go downhill incredibly fast once they do actually show any sign of being off-colour. Nature designed them that way so they could try to cheat predators, but it really does make it tricky for slaves to get help to them in time. What you must not do is in any way blame yourself or start dwelling on "what ifs" or "if onlys". It is evident from your narrative of events that you did absolutely all you could for Golden, even as far as making that terribly difficult last decision for him. We are sure he knew just how dearly he was loved, and that he understood that you were doing everything you could for him, even to the point of assisting his final departure, knowing how dreadful you were going to find life without him. I think most of us have been in a similar situation as yours at some time, and we all empathise with your anguish. Losing a piggie is NEVER easy, but when the final days are filled with frantic vet visits and ineffective treatments, combined with increasing distress for the piggie (and, consequently, the slave), the final departure can be harder than ever to bear. There are no words we could ever utter which could ease your pain or reduce your sense of shock and loss, but we hope that you may find some comfort in the fact that gpdd-ers like us, all over the world, are thinking of you at this tragic time, and wishing you well. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From matildalucet at earthlink.net Mon Jan 26 14:41:07 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:41:07 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] My Beautiful Golden In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43DD0C0D-A083-4EC2-AF68-E6CFDFA5D4E9@earthlink.net> Oh, Sherry! We so feel for you. We lost our Clover Bud under similar circumstances. You did your best for Golden and I'm sure he felt your love. Condolences to you and the Piggie Pals. -ginger remembering Mike, Butterscotch, Clover, and Niles From MFug at live.co.uk Mon Jan 26 15:17:39 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:17:39 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Golden Message-ID: Sherry your story about your precious Golden has me in tears, your love is obvious in every word you wrote. The most selfless thing we can do when a piggy is suffering is to help them cross the rainbow bridge so they can be pain free again, and you did that, there is no need for guilt or what ifs, you acted with love and kindness and Golden knows that. Run free Golden meeting friends old and new. Sherry I am sending you loads of love at this heart breaking time M From DebraStory at aol.com Mon Jan 26 17:52:59 2009 From: DebraStory at aol.com (DebraStory at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:59 EST Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Calico's Illness Message-ID: Hello Friends: Thanks to all of you who have sent advice and well wishes to Calico. GPDD people are truly the best! Calico is still not eating on his own, but the bleeding has lessened considerably with the new antibiotic Ciprofloxin. He is still being hand fed and resting on a Snuggle safe pad to keep him warmer under his pigloo. I hope now that the bleeding has slowed down, that maybe he will start eating more on his own. We have stopped the Reglan. Has anyone heard of Reglan being a problem with the stomach or digestive tract as far as eating goes? Our vet said to stop it and see if he would eat better due to the fact that it may be bothering his stomach. I know it is used to get things moving again, but should it be discontinued after the cavy starts pooping again? I will try to keep you posted on Cally's progress, and thanks again for all of the advice and well wishes. Sincere condolences to all who have lost dear fur babies. It seems like far too many have been crossing the Rainbow Bridge lately. Wheeeeeps from Debra and Calico **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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It sounds as though Golden might have suffered congestive heart failure and the nearest thing to the correct treatment was probably when you gave him one of Suzy's Lasix tablets. If I could have a wish come true it would be for all vets to be experts in the treament of our beloved guinea pigs. The Piggyfriends used to have a wonderful vet, who told me that his tuition on guinea pigs amounted to one optional lecture but he made it his life's work to learn all that he could about all the little furries and people would travel miles to consult him. He always sent a sympathy card to anyone who lost a pet. You had a most horrendous experience at the vet and I hope that you will be able, in time, to remember all the good times with Golden. R.I.P. Golden. Enjoy the fresh grass at the Rainbow Bridge with all the GPDD piggies gone before. With our most sincere condolences. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 26 17:59:18 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:59:18 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Mike T Pig Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205B0@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Ginger and Steve, i'm so terribly sorry that darling little Mike T Pig has gone to the bridge :o( He will be very sadly missed by us all at GPDD another of our little favourites. RIP Mike T Pig run free at the bridge you brave little trooper, popcorn in the green meadows and munch on the best of the dandelions and clover xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))) and lots of loves from me to you both xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You tried so hard for this little guy, it seems he may have been a lot sicker than anyone realised, they're so good at hiding things :o( I'm glad that you were with him when his time came to travel to the bridge, he knew your love and he trusted you so much that he had to be with you just one more time for a cuddle, bless him. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 26 18:00:21 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:00:21 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Calico Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205B1@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Debra and The Story Piggies we will have paws crossed for sweet little Calico xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Please pass on some little kisses and cuddles from me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Jan 26 18:04:01 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:04:01 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Golden Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205B2@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Sherry and the Piggie Pals i'm so sorry to hear about Golden travelling to the bridge :o( RIP Golden run free at the bridge, i'm sure you're now able to breath easily and popcorn with the other piggies and chomp on the dandelions and green grass xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You'll be so sadly missed by your friends and you slave and all of us here at GPDD :o( ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and lots of special loves from me to you all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love you tried everything and i'm sorry you had to make that decision, i'm glad you were able to be there for Golden. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 26 18:42:25 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:42:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CONDOLENSES: Golden Message-ID: <3864.65622.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sherry, you did a very brave and selfless and carefully considered?thing, allowing Golden to escape his flooded body into a perfect, whole one. I hope we can all follow your example?if we ever have to face that difficult decision. We grieve with you. ? Joanie From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Jan 26 20:23:10 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:23:10 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- piggie photos Message-ID: <20090126.172310.27220.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Ummm...this is so embarrassing...can the people who sent me piggie photos for my scrapbook resend them? I pressed the wrong button & now they're gone. =( Sorry! Thanks! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click to get freedom from your annoying glasses. Save on LASIK surgery. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2aqwSjZvrFOn91x5FqQiWt6pphJ8GIWuOtRjBlXUX6XUfNE/ From jaaladog at bellsouth.net Mon Jan 26 22:28:52 2009 From: jaaladog at bellsouth.net (jaaladog) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:28:52 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: HOME AGAIN AND CATCHING UP Message-ID: <004301c9802f$61067080$6500a8c0@usertnivpjein4> Hi guys and gals I haven't been on in a good while. First, there was the holidays and then, we got a call for a job that was totally unexpected. We have been down in Tampa, FL at a factory there. Earl is an electrical engineer and I do all the office/grunt stuff. So, I went with him to keep up on the paperwork. There was no internet connection though so I had to do without my daily pig digest fix! At any rate, we are home now, the girls are great and getting fatter every day. They were soooooo happy to see us get home, bless their furry little hearts! :) I have *tons* of mail to get through so will get back here as quickly as possible. Hugs and whisker kisses, Lynnn, Samantha & the oh so spoile Tabitha From MFug at live.co.uk Tue Jan 27 03:00:08 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:00:08 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Silly; Pirating Message-ID: Hey guys, count me in for the Caribbean trip in May!! Did you guys see the post from the Tampa girls about the pirate fest this weekend, I have copied it below in case you missed it. I already have my pigair flight booked to arrive Thursday so I dont miss any fun, so you guys had better hurry and get booked to, it will give us a chance to work on our plans to take over the world heeheehee. Maybe slave Mieke could help me put together a last minute pirate costume, what do you think Chico and Toby will you ask her for me?? Mmmmmmmmm food arrived time to go, get flight booking you guys Fugly the Fearless (my new pirate name) Hello everypig, Mommy thinks whee are sleeping but whee are very busy. Whee want to go on the Caribbean trip in May and whee are hoping that the flotilla will depart from the Port of Tampa, where whee live. Also, whee would like to invite anypig that can't wait until May to join us at Gasparilla in Tampa in early February. This is a real pirate fest with ships and beads and fun. Here is more information: http://gasparillapiratefest.com/index_event.shtml Love, Penny, Lucy & Mina From pandameisje at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 07:15:04 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:15:04 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Guiny's ovaries, Chico's nose Message-ID: Hi all, Yesterday I noticed that it hurt Guiny when I touched below her tummy near her back legs. My guess is that she is developing Ovarian cysts again... Apart from this she seems just fine, no baldness or extra dominant behaviour e.g. mounting the others. I read on guinealynx that crusts around the nipples also is a sign/side effect of ovarian cysts. She does always have this, and has had this for a long time... I'm not sure it's really crusts, it looks like it might just be dirt accumulating there. Has anyone else ever seen this with their girls? Seeing so does not have extreme discomfort or displays extreme behaviour, what should I do? It is really uncomfortable when I touch her there, but it's not a place she will usually be touched, and thus hurt, by the rest, I guess? Last time she had these symptoms it just passed over after a while. The other option would be to have her spayed, but she will turn 5 in March, so I'm not that fond of that option. Any ideas would be welcome, or experiences of other with their sows and ovarian cysts and possibly spaying... Just out of interest, If I do have her spayed, would she then be allowed to run with the guys without running the risk of getting pregnant? I ask, because this weekend someone visiting the shelter said she had her sow spayed because of ovarian cysts. The cage mate of her sow died, so she came looking for a new friend, which could be a boar because she had her ovaries removed. That seemed plausible, but is it? Eventually she decided to get a female friend, because the spayed sow was already 3,5 years old. There would be a chance that she'd have to find a new friend for the new one, if her other sow died in time... And then there is Chico and Toby. They are doing okay, and Toby's teeth have grown back at a marvellous speed. The teeth even grew so fast, that in the start Toby just had a double row of top teeth! However with getting his teeth back, Toby seems to want to use them to chatter at Chico more and more. Sunday we noticed Chico has a little wound, might be caused by the boys fighting, looks like a nail scratch, on his nose. Guiny once had that, probably after getting into a fight with Suus, and it healed just fine. So I do anything with it? Maybe clean it a bit with a Q-tip? Or should I just leave it be, and let it develop a crust until that comes of, and his nose had healed nicely? The boys seem so have their quarrels, but usually no one is hurt, so far I do not see any reason to actually take them apart. Also the boys are really fond of each other, when ever I take on out of the cage, the other will start looking for him. And they will start to talk to each other, wheeking away... Wow, I must say I feel a bit like an unexperienced slave here... Any suggestions are welcome! -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From matildalucet at earthlink.net Tue Jan 27 12:59:50 2009 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:59:50 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: routines Message-ID: <332C50E4-727E-477C-8B7C-FFC74A6173AB@earthlink.net> A guinea pig question popped into my head today, and who better to ask then you all? Do piggies, as a rule, prefer there to be daily routines or do they not care? Mr. Mike seemed to like to know what was what, so having his humans do predictable things at predictable times seemed to make him more comfortable. I think Niles lived a somewhat unpredictable life up until he moved here so I don't think the routines mattered as much to him, though maybe he was just harder to read. I don't remember with Butterscotch and Clover. So, do your piggies prefer steadiness or is some variation a good thing in their lives? -ginger remembering her four boys From ebak at ca.inter.net Tue Jan 27 14:00:56 2009 From: ebak at ca.inter.net (Evelyn Baker) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:00:56 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Guiny's ovaries Message-ID: At Guiny's age, I would not have her spayed. I've had three guinea pigs spayed. Two had complications during the healing. None of them had long lives which I don't attribute to the spaying. All three had the spaying done under three years of age. I would definitely have her checked out by a vet, just to make sure it isn't anything serious. I always like to err on the side of caution but these things can be cyclical so if it isn't hurting the quality of her life than I'd leave it alone. I'm sure she would agree with me. Evelyn From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jan 27 14:47:30 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:47:30 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Guiny's ovaries, Chico's nose Message-ID: <1FA7AD143FE24CE19A59937ABE1EDB03@inspiron1150> Hello Mieke, You don't sound like an inexperienced slave!! Just one who wants to know what is best for her piggies. It is always good to discuss options. Years ago, one of my sows, Posy, had ovarian cysts. I did not want to run the risk of having her spayed as finding a good cavy vet in England was well nigh impossible. She had to be separated from her group as she was for ever mounting her friends and annoying them. There was no treatment available at that time but Posy lived to be a very old lady. Currently my Lavender has an ovarian cyst. With softer cysts, our Rodentologist is able to disperse them manually but Lavender's feels leathery so she is having hormone treatment for it. She had one HCG injection in December and has recently had her second. It takes quite a while for the cyst to shrink so I do not yet know how effective this is going to be. Since she had the first one, she has definitely been less dominant over her group so that's a good outcome even if the cyst does not shrink. Under no circumstance would I ever have a sow spayed. I do not have a vet that I would trust in our area and any operation carries its risks. I never have my boars neutered for the same reason. If you did decide to have Guiny spayed, she could certainly live safely with a single boar. Putting her with Chico and Toby would be asking for trouble as they would be fighting over her as well as with each other. It is such a shame that they do not get on that well but I am pleased that they have not gone back to the shelter. As for Chico's nose, cleaning it up with a Q-tip would be the best thing to do. You could apply some antiseptic cream to the wound to stop any infection. A blob of Vaseline or Savlon is fine. I don't know what products you have in the Netherlands but I'm sure that you have something similar. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From faststats at faststatschecks.com Tue Jan 27 15:47:34 2009 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:47:34 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Tampa Message-ID: <004301c980c0$7b1af450$4501fea9@MaryFran> Where are wheee staying for the Tampa Pirate Fest?? Puffy and I want to go. Our slave is totally worthless at tax time and wheee are anxious to get away. She won't even notice whee're gone. Miss Muffet and Gingerpuff (while slave Mary Fran isn't looking, like ALWAYS) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 27 16:15:43 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:15:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Hershey got her nails trimmed for the first time!! Message-ID: <947866.65157.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Her makeover is complete! I've been dreading this for weeks now. With my son holding her and feeding her, I managed to find limbs under all that hair. They are apparently retractable. I've never really gotten a good look at those cute pink toes before. A revelation of cutefulness. Yes, the trimming was done with nary a squeak or drop of blood. Whew! Is anyone else paranoid about nail trimming? It's hard to calm the piggie when they can tell we're anxious about it. ? Joanie From rzm.2 at juno.com Tue Jan 27 16:42:51 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:42:51 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- Reglan Message-ID: <20090127.134251.12566.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Debra- Reglan is a motility drug & I was also told by my vet that it helps reduce nausea. Once they start pooing normal, their appetite usually comes back & you can stop the drug when things are "moving" the way they should. I hope Calico will be ok. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Get a life insurance quote online. Click to compare rates and save. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw35BaCi1i3k2SRlEE8DuvsaITfkGWabpubkUEClvy5Av8mU2/ From ussoccerpro9 at aol.com Tue Jan 27 17:31:42 2009 From: ussoccerpro9 at aol.com (ussoccerpro9 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:31:42 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Pigtures of Nutty and Zoey! Message-ID: <8CB4EE629935CB6-23C-8E5@FWM-D40.sysops.aol.com> I created a Photobucket account to share photos of Nutmeg, Zoey and my other pets. Here are a few to start! http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/ussoccerpro9/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Jan 27 20:54:28 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:54:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Get Well Wishes for CALICO Message-ID: <893975.93019.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Debra & Calico:? We're thinking of you!? Hope Calico feels better really soon! Sending hugs 'n wheeks, Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie "May all that have life be delivered from suffering." ????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? - Buddha From me at buddies.org Wed Jan 28 02:43:07 2009 From: me at buddies.org (ME) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:43:07 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: routines In-Reply-To: <332C50E4-727E-477C-8B7C-FFC74A6173AB@earthlink.net> References: <332C50E4-727E-477C-8B7C-FFC74A6173AB@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40DD4AF7-202A-4824-95D7-D8EA7A003325@buddies.org> I think pigs prefer to have daily routines ... though they don't mind a bit of variation in their schedule. Of course, every hour on the hour they'd like to have a treat or two. :) From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jan 28 13:06:59 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:06:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Pigtures of Nutty and Zoey Message-ID: <377269.35399.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Your pigtures are all so cute.? I love the Christmas pigtures with them wearing their little bows!? Nutty matches your dog!? All of your pets are so cute!? I also have 2 Betta fish!? Thanks for sharing. Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie "May all that have life be delivered from suffering." ????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? - Buddha From warmbreath at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 13:25:16 2009 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:25:16 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Guiny's ovaries, Chico's nose References: Message-ID: <609A717759314DE8A55F6BEE86A16898@SNADY> It's very hard to tell ovarian cysts from something worse and as long as her equipment is intact it can become cancerous. If you have a great surgeon, and I mean great, and her health is and has been good, then I would seriously consider a complete spay. And after a 6 wheeks or so she could be paired with a male, if he is too randy she will either teach him manners and they will come to some accommodation or the relationship will fail, then try the other male. She can only be with one guy though, multiple males will fight over her I hade one sow spayed, but she ultimately died 2 weeks later The reason was she was a very "gassy girl" so the vet gave me reglan to calm her gut but maintain motility and it worked great. It ran out after two weeks so I put her back with her girl mates, which meant she again ate veggies, she got gas again, it caused the stitches to itch and she ate through her belly and intestines. The vet, who is an amazing surgeon tried a bowel resection but she didn't wake up. My advice since that and other surgeries my piggies have had is to treat them as invalids for 6 wheeks. That may seem extreme but my (their) survival rate went way up. There is a danger with nipple crusting that there is breast cancer so try to rule that out before surgery. My surgeon preferred to spay sows as they get probs much more often than boars and although its a bigger surgery, he liked it that the incision was far enough up the abdomen to be out of the dirtiest part more often, so easier to keep clean. But I re iterate, you should ask the surgeon how many spays he has done and what the survival rate is. On my bunny site they recommend experience on over 100 plus a failure rate of 15 or less, if this vets sees allot of dogs and cats forget it. If his practice is exotics buns, ferrets, and piggies, and he has a lot of surgery under his belt then feel better about surgery. You have to be prepared to nurse her for the 6 weeks, keeping her very close to you and monitoring every bite, esp if she is gassy If you clean the nose don't use hydrogen peroxide, it actually kills tissue, use betadine on a swab, then leave it alone unless it starts to look infected, then get him to the vet ASAP Good luck. its a tough decision Sandy and Manny the Boar, and his pet Little Guy. From dukejan1 at aol.com Wed Jan 28 13:24:04 2009 From: dukejan1 at aol.com (dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:24:04 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Guiny's ovarian cysts Message-ID: <8CB4F8CBC11A008-938-85A@WEBMAIL-MC20.sysops.aol.com> Mieke, My Isabel is now 5 1/2 yrs old and was diagnosed with ovarian cysts last March.? She too had the crusty nipples.? She has been taking lupron (hormonal) injections monthly since March and is doing quite well.? Her last sonogram showed that the cysts had indeed shrunk.? The crusty nipples?have vanished.? She has some abnormal tissue growth in the uterus that the lupron won't help, but so far, so good.??Her vet recommended against surgery because of her age. Hope this helps. Janet From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jan 28 14:10:22 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:10:22 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- piggie pics Message-ID: <20090128.111022.28206.3@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Your pictures are precious! Is Zoey an agouti? Both piggies are gorgeous! Thanks for sharing them with us! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click to find great rates on life insurance, save big, shop here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2PVUsOEG4XSli4ZnY64BmcS1yqMpGj6KlF1zualTmqzeDo6/ From Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com Wed Jan 28 17:08:18 2009 From: Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com (Schumann, Jan) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:08:18 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: routines Message-ID: <97D9DEF598590A4C9466AE49E94D4546043B6B44@KMHPEXSC20.kmhp.com> My piggies love routine, except that they want food any time and ALL of the time. Jan Mom to Tribble, Zathras, and Leela Lokai in my heart Jan Schumann Medical Affairs Data Analyst Select Health of South Carolina PO Box 40849 Charleston, SC 29423-0849 843.569.4847 p. 888.824.7788 f. www.selecthealthofsc.com Mission: We help people get care, stay well and build healthy communities ============================================================================== CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic mail or its contents by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. ============================================================================== From Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com Wed Jan 28 17:14:15 2009 From: Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com (Schumann, Jan) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:14:15 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Piggie toenails Message-ID: <97D9DEF598590A4C9466AE49E94D4546043B6B47@KMHPEXSC20.kmhp.com> OMG! It's a festival of wheeking, squirming, wiggling, squealing like I am killing them when it's toenail time! My mom says it's payback for how I behaved as a child. I try to ply them with celery while I am doing their toes and I always, always, always wear long sleeves for some protection from those chompers that they have. Tribble, the oldest, is actually the best now. Leela earned her nickname Ferret Pig from the contortions that she achieves while trying to avoid the clippers. Zathras just screams whenever I even touch a foot. Due to the theatrics when he is fine, I can never tell if I've actually hurt him until too late. Poor baby. Jan Mom to Tribble, Zathras and Leela Lokai in my heart Jan Schumann Medical Affairs Data Analyst Select Health of South Carolina PO Box 40849 Charleston, SC 29423-0849 843.569.4847 p. 888.824.7788 f. www.selecthealthofsc.com Mission: We help people get care, stay well and build healthy communities ============================================================================== CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic mail or its contents by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. ============================================================================== From ussoccerpro9 at aol.com Wed Jan 28 19:18:34 2009 From: ussoccerpro9 at aol.com (ussoccerpro9 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:18:34 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Zoey...piggie pics In-Reply-To: <8CB4FAFF0E7C00C-964-A72@WEBMAIL-MZ37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB4FAFF0E7C00C-964-A72@WEBMAIL-MZ37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CB4FBE41C3678B-994-D81@MBLK-M34.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: ussoccerpro9 at aol.com To: gpdd at gpdd.org Sent: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 5:36 pm Subject: piggie pics It's funny you should ask that about Zoey. I was actually on the web last night and realized that she must be a Satin Golden Agouti (from the other black piggies I found on the net). She was deemed "pet quality" but did come from a breeder somewhere in MD (so I was told by the pet store owner where I found her). I'm not sure if her breed has anything to do with her personality but she is unlike any pig I've ever owned! She is soooooo talk-a-tive and active, climbing over anything she can find. Her favorite place to sit is right up on your shoulder like a parrot and she has the most pathetic cry I've ever heard when she wants a cucumber (Nutty and Zoey's favorite evening snack!). If you have any information on Agoutis I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks much, Jaime, Mimi and Daisy! Nutmeg and Zoey's Slave Get instant access to the latest & most popular FREE games while you browse with the Games Toolbar - Download Now! From wrraffles at aol.com Wed Jan 28 20:38:36 2009 From: wrraffles at aol.com (wrraffles at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:36 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Guiny's ovaries Message-ID: <8CB4FC96FEF57AE-8E0-1911@webmail-mf03.sysops.aol.com> There are some studies that say ovarian cysts and breast lumps are caused by an iodine deficit in humans. ?Iodine is a necessary nutrient, and is a halogen. ?Our water is currently treated with Flouride and Chlorine, both halogens, that tend to block the iodine receptors in our bodies. ? You may wish to consider adding a drop of Lugol's iodine to Guiny's water bottle. ?If in doubt, give her two bottles, one with, one without iodine, let her choose. ?Stop using tap water, and buy bottled water without flouride for her to use. ?I don't have any scientific articles about guinea pigs and iodine supplementation to offer you, but it is an non invasive option for you to try. Calliope and Honey's slave From ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 29 09:21:00 2009 From: ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com (Stacy Harvey) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:21:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] (Bridge) LuLu Belle Message-ID: <843913.60604.qm@web53012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It is with a heavy heart that I must announce the passing of yet another member of the Squee Squad, LuLu Belle. ? Some may remember that she had bladder stone surgery about a year ago, and it took her some time to recover. She seemed to be doing well, but lately we noticed that she had started losing weight and squeeking when she peed so we assumed it was a UTI or another stone. I took her in to the clinic and did her x-rays--sure enough, a very large stone. Her surgery was scheduled for Wednesday (1/28/09). She hadn't been eating very well, so I was syringing her Critical Care and water to keep her strength up. ? We prepped her for surgery and the procedured started smoothly. The vet was concerned because LuLu Belle had developed adhesions (scarring) from the last surgery, and she already had a slightly deformed bladder to start with. Doc couldn't feel the stone anywhere and it was very large on the xrays. We rushed her into xray again (silently hoping that maybe she had somehow passed the stone) but it was still there. Doc sent me in to study the old xrays because she felt that the stone looked to be too "high" in the body wall. I came back and asked if it could be in the ureter--she started gently probing and found the stone in the ureter below the left kidney. It was completely blocked. Just goes to show that even really good radiographs can be deceptive sometimes, especially with very small animals. ? During the surgery, LuLu Belle seemed to be doing okay, although she would seem to hold her breath occasionally, and her heart rate was strong. As the doctor was trying to determine how to safely remove the stone from the ureter she stopped breathing. After about a minute of gently massaging her sides and pumping her front legs, she started breathing again. Another minute later she stopped breathing, as did her heart. There is no way to "shock" a guinea pig heart into beating again like they do with humans--you can only do gentle chest compressions. The doctor tried her best to get the heart going again but it just wouldn't. At least LuLu Belle slipped away while she was under the anesthesia, unconscious and feeling no pain. ? There's always the "coulda-shoulda-woulda", and the guilt, and the second guessing. I do know that if we had opted not to do the surgery she would have died a painful death as she would have most likely been going into kidney failure. It's still very difficult because I was monitoring the anesthesia--one minute she was "there" and the next she wasn't. And there was nothing I could do to save her. Nothing anyone could do. Still doesn't make me feel any better. LuLu Belle wasn't even 2 years old yet. ? Goodbye, little one. Say hello to Tigger for me--I bet she's holding the door for you since she just left for the Bridge herself. ? -Stacy and the still grieving Squee Squad ? From bunzella at yahoo.ca Thu Jan 29 13:09:24 2009 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:09:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] (Bridge) LuLu Belle Message-ID: <98607.6788.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Stacy, I'm so sorry! I know it must have been so hard to be there, witnessing all this, but at least there can be no doubt in your mind that everything possible was done, capably and kindly, to save your sweet LuLu Belle. She was such a lucky little girl to have found a mum like you who could and would take such excellent care of her, despite all those challenges in her short life. There is absolutely no reason for guilt here --- it was just Fate intervening, not any wrong decision on your part; you were giving her the best chance at life and health that anyone could have. I hope you can take some comfort in the thought that she and Tigger are keeping each other company at the Bridge, safe and happy and free from pain (though probably missing you and the Squee Squad, like you are missing them)... Pat (with Doris, Audrey & Olivia) --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Stacy Harvey wrote: > From: Stacy Harvey > Subject: [Gpdd] (Bridge) LuLu Belle > To: "GPDD" > Received: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 8:21 AM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The GPDD moderators frequently reject messages that do not > follow > these guidelines: > A lack of a Topic label is the most common reason for > message rejection. Please use a Topic Label (HEALTH, CARE, > ANNOUNCEMENT, BEHAVIOR, RESCUE, BREEDING, SILLY, PIGLETS, > MISC. or VIRTUAL) and descriptive subject. 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Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From hunte1mj at yahoo.com Thu Jan 29 13:24:50 2009 From: hunte1mj at yahoo.com (Michael Hunter) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:24:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Murphy Message-ID: <634357.9767.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> After a long fight, I had to help my brave little buy Murphy across the bridge today. He had contracted an inner ear infection which even with several weeks of antibiotics did not clear up, and he became unable to move without falling over. He struggled very bravely, and I thought he was improving on Monday when he started to eat by himself for the first time in several days. Unfortunately, he had a relapse yesterday and I couldn't let him suffer any longer. He was a beautiful and feisty little pig and I will miss him very much. Mike Hunter From MFug at live.co.uk Thu Jan 29 17:10:07 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:10:07 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc;chatroom date Message-ID: Hello everyone, on Saturday 7th March we are attempting a get together in the chatroom, to try and suit everyone we have decided to meet at 19:00 UK time which is 20:00 in Europe and between 12:00-14:00 in the US it is also 06:00 in Oz so any early rising Ozzies can join us. Here is the link again http://xat.com/piggypeople Hope to see you there even if you just pop in and say a quick hello M From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 29 13:23:47 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:23:47 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090129.102347.23602.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Stacy- I'm so sorry to hear Lulu Belle passed to the bridge. I can't imagine how hard it must have been to be there during surgery on your own piggie & to experience that. You are a very strong person to be able to do that. I know I never could. ALbert died of kidney failure & I'm glad Lulu Belle didn't have to go thru that. You're right, it is a horrible way to go. I'm glad she got to go peacefully. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Come clean with a brand new shower. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1wsg4x5vxVOmttMTxFhdqWG1kiy2xLp7WbZCAJS65qjQ4iq/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jan 29 13:28:42 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:28:42 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- agouti piggies Message-ID: <20090129.102842.23602.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> It's funny you should ask...Mimi is unlike any piggie I've had before too. She's so quirky! And she is very talkative too. I don't know much about agoutis per say, I've never paid much attention to the different breeds of piggies, I love them all! Agoutis are beautiful though. C-ya! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click to get free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2PNOzF1pvnkeYrunEFo0xS1wu69XsHKm6FvqsM7YcJqoeJQ/ From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 29 18:26:19 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:26:19 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for LuLu Belle Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205CB@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Stacy and the grieving Squee Squad i'm so sorry that you've lost another of the little darlings so quickly :o( RIP LuLu Belle run free at the bridge have fun with your family and friends and popcorn with them all in the green meadows xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and lots of special loves from me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh love she was such a little fighter i remember your posts about her last year, you did everything for her, her little heart must've just given up. I'm glad you were with her and that she did not suffer. A little sweetie that will NEVER be forgotten. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 29 18:33:09 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:33:09 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolence for Murphy Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205CC@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Mike i'm so sorry to hear that you had to help Murphy to the bridge :o( RIP Murphy run free little guy, popcorn with the other piggies from gpdd and munch out on all the green grass and clover xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))) and special loves from me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Poor little guy having the inner ear infection it must've been so painful for him and such a worry for you :o( A hard decision but as you said it was the kindest thing to do for him. I'm sure he knew the love you had for him xxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 29 21:59:40 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:59:40 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Routine for Piggies Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205DB@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Hi Ginger, i know that Sully and Dukey EXPECTED routine, if i was late with breakfast or coming home from work it was WHEEEEEEEEEEEEK you're late Granny!!! Of course i had to oblige with more treats and loves to pacify them :o) I think Niles will get used to your routine and let know if you're not quite doing what he wants *wink* Bless him, enjoy him he sounds such a little darling. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 29 22:00:54 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:00:54 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Guiny's ovaries Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205DD@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Mikey i'm sorry i'm of no use on this subject but i'm sending my little girl HUGE hugs from her surrogate Granny Glynis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jan 29 22:05:27 2009 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:05:27 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [VIRTUAL] Tampa Pirate Fest Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9232205DE@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh me little ones, why don't you just go down to the marina and hijack a ship yourselves!! I'm the Caribbean Piggy Pirate Crew and Fugly the Fantabulous will help you. Love Your Auntie Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From dfhakes at aol.com Fri Jan 30 11:03:41 2009 From: dfhakes at aol.com (Dana Felice) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:03:41 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; Pirating piggies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <014601c982f4$53024aa0$f906dfe0$@com> Well, the good news is that Fugly arrived safely. What the little scamp didn't tell you is that the Super Bowl is in Tampa this weekend and there are nonstop parties. There are limousines, and celebrities and all sorts of things a chap can get into. So, Fugly will no doubt spend most of this weekend on the football festivities and then have the week to recover before the Gasparilla Pirate Invasion next weekend. Dana From: M Fug [mailto:mfug at live.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:01 AM To: gpdd at gpdd.org Cc: Dana Tampa Girls; Mieke Staaks Subject: virtual; Pirating piggies Well I packed Fugly off on his pigair flight last night he should have arrived by now, but being an excitable young boar he has not thought to let his Mummy know he is ok. Penny, Lucy and Mina when you see him remind him to get in touch with me. In amongst his luggage he has bought his own tent, so he just needs a patch of grass to pitch it on, he also has carrot wine for the girls and beetroot beer for the boys, assuming he has not consumed it all himself. He also has eye patch and hat kindly made at short notice by slave Mieke. I hope you all have fun and remember to keep in touch with your anxious slaves. M _____ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! = From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jan 30 07:00:35 2009 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:00:35 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; Pirating piggies Message-ID: Well I packed Fugly off on his pigair flight last night he should have arrived by now, but being an excitable young boar he has not thought to let his Mummy know he is ok. Penny, Lucy and Mina when you see him remind him to get in touch with me. In amongst his luggage he has bought his own tent, so he just needs a patch of grass to pitch it on, he also has carrot wine for the girls and beetroot beer for the boys, assuming he has not consumed it all himself. He also has eye patch and hat kindly made at short notice by slave Mieke. I hope you all have fun and remember to keep in touch with your anxious slaves. M _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ From juwles at bigpond.com Fri Jan 30 08:09:31 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:09:31 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [CONDOLENCES - GOLDEN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <360C288CD6B3452788E56D14C68BC872@JuliePC> Dear Sherry & your piggy pals, Your post has brought me to tears. I am so sorry about the loss of your beautiful Golden. What a dear little piggy he sounded. I think you did everything humanly possible to heal your boy, to give him the love & comfort & care to try and help him through his illness, but maybe he had piggy friends at the Bridge who were calling him, wanting & missing his company, and the call was too strong for Golden. I think Golden knew how much you loved him and wanted to help him, and even though he didn't want to leave you, he knew you loved him enough to help him and that eventually, with time, you would find comfort and eventually, as time goes by, be able to smile with love when you think of your beloved Golden boy. Thank you on behalf of all piggies and their slaves for being so strong, for having so much love in your heart that you didn't want him to suffer, and that you didn't think of yourself at that time. (I must admit I feel guilty about keeping one of my boys alive for so long because I couldn't bear to part with him, and I have been feeling this guilt now for about 18 months. I have sworn that I will not be so selfish again, and the courage you have shown with Golden has helped me to confirm those feelings. To love, one must be selfless and think of the welfare and comfort of our beloved furry friends.). I pray for your comfort in this time of your sorrow. Julie and her precious boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba & Snowdrop) with my beloved Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart & soul & desperately & daily missed From pandameisje at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 08:29:46 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:29:46 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Pirating Message-ID: Ahoy, This is Treasure hunt Toby! We've arrived at the pirate fest, looking for Fierce Fugly and the other pirates... Anyone heard if Captain Igor is coming as well? I bring me mate Caribbean Chico an our Mom made us pirate outfits and one for Fugly and Igor as well, If only we could find them!! Is kind of hard since it's our first time here on a virtual event! Oh, yeah, we've also brought the lasses Woopy, Guiny and Dunya who still need to find their pirate names... See you Lasses and Lads there Arrr! Toby and Chico p.s. did you know there's an international talk like a pirate day? http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jan 30 09:09:26 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:09:26 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Murphy Message-ID: <24D3700196C8469DBD1A1012E13C0725@inspiron1150> Mike, I am so sorry that your Murphy had to be helped to the Rainbow Bridge. Middle ear disease can be the very devil of all illness to overcome as antibiotics can fail to reach the centre of the infection. You were very brave and did the right thing in giving him the help that he needed. R.I.P. Murphy, out of pain now and making friends with the GPDD piggies at the Bridge. With our utmost sympathy and condolences for your loss. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jan 30 09:18:58 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:18:58 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Lulu Belle Message-ID: Stacy, I was so sad to read that another of the Squee Squad had departed for the Rainbow Bridge, so soon after losing Tigger. You do have the comfort of knowing that everything possible was done for Lulu Belle as you were there to help. I would much prefer that than sitting in the vet's waiting room, panicking, but unable to be present to assist. I remember when she had the previous bladder stone surgery. It is so unfair that she suffered with another stone. It does seem that some piggies are prone to this, despite being given the very best and most suitable diet for their condition. What can I say except extend my sympathy and condolences? We all know how upset you must be. Most of us have been there and know exactly how you are feeling. R.I.P. Lulu Belle, reunited with Tigger. With all our love to you and remaining Squee Squad. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 11:29:44 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:29:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc Roll Call Message-ID: <785807.16967.qm@web50510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all, Seems wheek have some new members again. How wonderful!!! I would love to update our roll call with a list of our members names and birthdays. For new comers this is simply our email addys and our Masters and Slaves names so we know where everyone is from. It's nice to be able to check up on members in case of natural disaster or when something else happens. For those who would like a copy all they have to do is email me perosnally or thru the gpdd and I will send it. It's fun to me to keep it up. ? Here's the info needed for the list, I will use myself as an example. Slave(s) name(s) and birthdays Birdie 6/8/59 Year optional. Steve 3/17/59 Master(s) Spunky Miss Perky Miss Pooky Location Counry, State, City USA, Nebraska, LaVista ? Birdie From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 11:38:12 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:38:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; Pirating piggies Message-ID: <125261.52866.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> aarrrgghh maties. Spunky here. Don't tell mom but?I heading down to Florida to catch the action before sending PigAir for my silly sisters. I think I'll join the superbowl party. (I stole Miss Perky's eggmoney card so that I can max our her card first. Tee Hee. I just got mine paided off and don't want momma mad at me yet. After the superbowl I'll have the girls come down. I'm afraid that they will get into trouble if they come down too soon and I don't want to waste time getting them out of trouble. Hmmp those silly sisters of mine. I'll be down soon! Spunky ? From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 11:46:53 2009 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:46:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Pirating Message-ID: <208536.12027.qm@web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Miss Perky & Miss Pooky here. Wheek are heading down for the Treasure Hunt. Wheek looked for our eggmoney cards couldn't find Miss Perky's so we stole Spunky's since wheek know where he keeps it. First the Superbowl Parties. Party, Party, Party. You know us, TEE HEE. We are going to charge all the food for the party on Spunky's card. Wheek made up some costumes so we can convort with all the matties. Wink Wink. Got to keep our guys tummy's full so that wheek and make away with the treasure. Birdie From pals4pets at cheerful.com Fri Jan 30 12:19:50 2009 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:19:50 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for LuLu Belle Message-ID: <20090130171951.14A57478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Stacy and the Squee Squad We were so very sorry to hear of LuLu Belle's sad departure for The Rainbow Bridge. It sounds as though she put up quite a fight to stay with you a little longer, but obviously it was her time - maybe Tigger was lonely without her? How traumatic it must have been for you, especially coming so soon after Tigger's departure. You obviously did all you could for her, and of course she will have known how very dearly she was loved. She was a brave little soul, and it is tragic to think of her having such a short little life, but at least she was cherished and well cared-for, and now she is free from pain at the Rainbow Bridge, stuffing herself full of all her favourite treats and surely feeling grateful to you for the extra time you bought her on Earth by allowing her to have the first bladder stone surgery. As ever, we will remember you in our thoughts and prayers at this difficult time, and send you comforting hugs and wheeks across the miles. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From anifair at comcast.net Fri Jan 30 12:38:40 2009 From: anifair at comcast.net (Anita Fair) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:38:40 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc---roll call Message-ID: <39907A62B51248F6A3E92A3649A22A3B@PENGUIN> Hi Birdie! Here's my info: Anita Fair 12/6/ Oh God, No! Nuttie (Nutella) Beanie ('Nilla Bean) Langhorne, PA, USA anifair at comcast.net From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 12:40:30 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:40:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Murphy Message-ID: <39062.49217.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Mike: I am sending you my heartfelt condolences on the loss of your little guy, Murphy. I didn't know that ear infections could be so serious.? Thankfully, he isn't suffering anymore even though your heart is hurting. "Rest in Peace, Murphy" Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie "May all that have life be delivered from suffering." ????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? - Buddha From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Jan 30 19:34:39 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:34:39 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090130.163439.8392.1@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Mike- I'm sorry to hear about Murphy. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Save on Cell Phones. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2nxX9c4WEcmQJafhB7Z7k6qdLHwUG1Eqe1bDoU59Eimr5X4/ From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 21:03:24 2009 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:03:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Condolences Message-ID: <513911.35838.qm@web52311.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Unfortunately, There have been so many little piggies crossing the bridge. I want to send my condolences to all of the slaves that have lost their little furry friends. The rest of us need to enjoy our piggies while we have them with us. I am happy that my two piggies seem to be healthy today. I know it can change in a day. Give all your pigs a hug. They just do not live long enough. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com From juwles at bigpond.com Fri Jan 30 20:10:15 2009 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:10:15 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Condolences: Golden, Lulu Belle & others Message-ID: <50F614A779B84424A6F4B1FEC0B00EC0@JuliePC> Yet again, it saddens me to have to send condolences to more wonderful slaves over the loss of their furry masters. There have been so many little ones leaving this earth, but they are at peace now, enjoying eternity with their furry mates (and Peter Gurney to look after them) - and one day all of us will be reunited with our most beloved friends. To Mike and Stacy, may you find comfort, eventually, knowing that so many piggy lovers are sending their love and condolences. Julie and her precious boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba & Snowdrop) with Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart and soul - desperately & despairingly missed When Satan is knocking at your door, simply say,' Jesus, could You please get that for me." From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jan 31 04:37:45 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:37:45 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Lulu Belle Message-ID: Stacey and the Squee squad we are so sorry you another little friend has left you for the rainbow bridge. Run free Lulu Belle with lots of friends old and new to meet you. Love to those left behind here M + Fugly From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jan 31 04:39:04 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:39:04 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Murphy Message-ID: Mike we are sorry that your furbaby Murphy has left you for the rainbow bridge, he sounds like an adorable little piggy. Run free Murphy make friends old and new Love M + Fugly From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jan 31 04:59:31 2009 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:59:31 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly; message from Fugly Message-ID: ahoy there Mummy, I got my dates wrong I am a whole week early (embarrassed) but I have met up with Toby, Chico, the Girls and Spunky. My tent is set up on a nice patch of grass and guess what this weekend is superbowl weekend!! loads of partys heeeheeehheee maybe my timing wasnt wrong (evil grin) Spunky has an egg card so we are going to have fun,fun,fun we have already opened the beetroot beers and there is a rumour about visiting disney world as well as learning to talk like pirates, I need more practice. We are still waiting for Igor to show up he must be lost in his pink car somewhere along the way. Any way time for more food Bye Fugly the Fearless From pandameisje at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 07:28:35 2009 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:28:35 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] silly; message from Toby Message-ID: Ahoy Mom, As you might have heard by now via M, we arrived a wheek early... Whoops... but apparently it Superbowl weekend here.. We've got know Idea what that is, but apparently it's going to be a lot of fun! Fugly and Spunky will show of what it is... we've pitched our tent next to Fugly, the girls prefer to have some privacy, so we usually party in ehm visit Fugly's tent and end up crashing there... The girls are a bit annoyed whee arrived this earlies, but then we told them about disney land, and the pretty princesses en princes that live there and now Dunya really wants to go to Disney Dunya land. I had to ask you if you can send them some ot the disney princess dresses you made... Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaasse, can we go there? Dunya is driving us crazy, singing about disney land at the top of her longs... Woopy usually joins in.. IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER AAAALLL, IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALAALLL... So we are going to enjoy ourselves we think, and hope you will let us stay until the pirate fest is? (angel faces) Guiny will keep an eye on us... She seems to have taken an elderly lady, sort of a Lady bug double, role...Saying someone has to watch the little ones.... pfft, like we are little, we are the heaviest around! Except for Fugly who's a LAPS piggy of course We haven't heard from uncle Igor yet, maybe he did get the dates right? Lots of excited wheeks, Toby, Chico and the girls Guiny, Dunya and Woopy 2009/1/31 M > ahoy there Mummy, I got my dates wrong I am a whole week early > (embarrassed) but I have met up with Toby, Chico, the Girls and Spunky. > > My tent is set up on a nice patch of grass and guess what this weekend is > superbowl weekend!! loads of partys heeeheeehheee maybe my timing wasnt > wrong (evil grin) > > Spunky has an egg card so we are going to have fun,fun,fun we have already > opened the beetroot beers and there is a rumour about visiting disney world > as well as learning to talk like pirates, I need more practice. > > We are still waiting for Igor to show up he must be lost in his pink car > somewhere along the way. > > Any way time for more food > > Bye > > Fugly the Fearless > -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia website: www.guinygirlz.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jan 31 08:26:30 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:26:30 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE Frodo Piggyfriend Message-ID: We are in mourning here at Piggyfriends as we have lost our beloved Frodo. He had munched up his supper with his usual gusto and rushed to take his late night slice of cucumber with every indication of being in good health. I always watch the herd eat their last slice so that I can go to bed in the knowledge that everypig has eaten up. The following morning, he did not want his breakfast. He did not want to move and when I picked him up out of his pen he seemed very wobbly. I suspected a stroke, gave him some pain meds and rushed him off to see our Rodentologists. A thorough check up ruled out not only a stroke but just about everything else. He had no tumours, his motility was fine, his heartbeat strong, if a little on the slow side, his respiration was OK.......I had to leave him at the piggy hospital as I had to go to a funeral. I gave him a syringe feed before I left and he even managed to munch some parsley. He looked a little brighter when it was time to go and I felt a little more hopeful. Sadly he did not make it. Every time that I called for a bulletin, he seemed to be a little worse and he made his own way to the Bridge in the small hours. He was not alone as our Rodentologists treat everypig as their own and he had lots of cuddles from them. He knew them very well as he had spent some time in their hospital in 2007 when he had a really nasty abscess. He was a wonderful character, a big LAPS boy, who loved his food. The story of how he came to be a Piggyfriend is on the LAPS blog http://cavies-laps.blogspot.com/. At the moment it is the third story down. He has left behind his friend, Shadow, who continues to eat up well but seems very lonely. He has company nearby as Cadbury and Bramley's pen adjoins his own but it is not the same. He and Frodo always slept snuggled up together, Frodo's long coat covering them both on these chilly winter nights. I had been in the middle of writing a little story for the Tampa Piratefest and he and Shadow were the main protagonists as Shadow, a black Texel, has enough dreadlocks to equip a whole crew of Captain Jack Sparrow wannabes. I haven't the heart to finish it now so my little herd will have to wait until May for their pirate adventure in the Caribbean. There have been so many piggies lost to the Bridge recently and I am so sad to have to add another name to that roll of honour. Frodo has his original friend, Maple waiting for him at the Bridge, together with a whole crowd of Piggyfriends past. I had previously offered a home to a young neutered boar, whom I had intended to put with Hope, Petunia and Peony when he arrived. Maybe he will be a new companion for Shadow instead but that will be another story. It is always so hard to lose a piggy but, not knowing why makes it even harder. Dawnda said it all in her post today. "Our piggies may seem to be healthy today, but it can all change in a day." R.I.P. Lovely Frodo. You were a joy to care for and love and we will always remember you. At least you had a life with us that you would not otherwise have had. I only wish that it could have been longer. Penny and the sad Piggyfriends. From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Sat Jan 31 12:34:39 2009 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:34:39 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] Message-ID: Hi All, OMG... this morning Igor left in a total hurry, dragging the girls with them. Hotmail finally decided to grant us a peek at all the people that have been emailing us and the gppdmails. I have never seen Igor so stressed out. Now i'm kinda worried because I saw on the amsterdam news channel that the 'Amsterdam' has gone missing (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOC_ship_Amsterdam, It's a 18th century cargo ship from the dutch VOC..) Any news, anyone?... Worried slave Janneke _________________________________________________________________ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/ From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Jan 31 13:06:32 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:06:32 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: belated condolences, Wild Message-ID: <49849328.8000005@geeksnet.com> Stuart, Oscar, Cuprum, Hydragyrum, Charlie and Elpis, please accept our belated condolences on Wild's passing. We are so very sorry for your loss, and for Oscar's loss. It must be very sad when one piggie of a pair goes to the Bridge. You are right that it would be good to get a friend for Oscar, and we know others have given suggestions of how to introduce two boars. Please do give us an update, when you get a chance, about how Oscar is doing and if you've found him a friend. We have no doubt that Wild enjoyed all of his days with you and with his buddy; he was a lucky piggie to have such a loving home. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Jan 31 13:07:46 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:07:46 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: belated condolences, Chewie, Ziggy, and Zoie Message-ID: <49849372.3060903@geeksnet.com> Sarah, Ginger, and Chloe the bunny, we are sending belated condolences on the passings of your piggies Chewie and Ziggy and your bunny, Zoie. Losing one sweet friend at a time is hard enough; we know it was so much harder to have them pass away so close to one another. Perhaps when Chewie left for the Bridge, he decided he was missing his neighbor, Ziggy. It sounds as though Zoie then decided to join them, too. Please know that you gave them all wonderful lives and they were lucky to be so loved. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Jan 31 13:08:30 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:08:30 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: belated condolences, Cindy's bunny Message-ID: <4984939E.6070206@geeksnet.com> Cindy, we're very sorry to read that you recently lost your bunny to a series of infections. We, too, had a bunny (E.B. White), and we know how special bunny personalities are! Although it is sad to go through such a loss, it is wonderful to hear that your bunny was eight years old. That is a very good lifespan; your bunny was so lucky to be a beloved member of your family. Please accept our belated condolences. On a happier note, how wonderful that you have adopted four guinea pigs from local shelters. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Jan 31 13:09:48 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Trigger Message-ID: <498493EC.6060202@geeksnet.com> Jean and Andy and the Misfits 13, it was with much sadness that we read of Trigger's passing. We had so hoped that he would be able to recover, and we are so very sorry that he went to the Bridge at such a young age. Please know that you did all your best for him, giving him his antibiotic and supplementing with Critical Care, and taking him back to the vet. Sometimes, despite all of our best efforts, we can't prevent our piggies from making that journey to the other side. It was so touching to hear of how you held him, sang to him, and told him his daddy would be home soon, and how sweet that he snuggled up to Andy when Andy got home. Trigger obviously understood what you were telling him, and we know he knew how much he was loved as he passed to the Bridge from the safety of Andy's arms. Please accept our condolences. We also send best wishes to his brother. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Jan 31 13:17:56 2009 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:17:56 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Mike T. Pig Message-ID: <498495D4.8040504@geeksnet.com> Ginger, we had so hoped that Mike T. Pig would be able to pee again, and we are so very saddened that he passed to the Bridge. We couldn't think why he might be unable to pee, but sometimes piggie passings remain baffling. We hope you will find comfort in knowing that you did all you could for him, taking him to the vet and getting blood and urine tests done, as well as monitoring him to see if he was able to urinate. We know that he felt all of your love and concern. How touching that he was continuing to eat and poop until the last and remained a LAPS piggie. Please accept our condolences on Mike T. Pig's passing; we always thought it was cool that he had a middle initial. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From matilda at ptsi.net Sat Jan 31 13:19:41 2009 From: matilda at ptsi.net (Marsha Neely) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:19:41 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] Roll Call References: Message-ID: <94CED967B6F04894B0FA247417E8F1D6@yourat5qgaac3z> SUBJECT: ROLL CALL Hi Birdie, I have one update to my family. GracieBallet Female Abby Birthdate: approx. 6/21/08 Thanks, Marsha & Bart, the big dog Prince Bubba, Princesses KissaBella and GracieBallet In memory of Tigger and the BeJabbers Five: Muttley, Ozzy, Elvis, StinkerBelle, and Trixie www.bejabbers5.blinkz.com From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 31 13:53:55 2009 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:53:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY]Pirate Igor is missing no more. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <648310.41004.qm@web39506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is Joan, slave to The Lady Bug writing to tell you that Igor is not missing, he just took a detour to Northern California.? Both Lady Bug and I were so surprised to find Igor on our doorstep early this morning. ? Igor tried very hard to get Her Majesty to go to the Pirate festivities telling her what a great time she'd have and so forth, but she told him she still just misses her Duke too much.? (So much for Guinea Pigs having short memories huh?) ? The Lady Bug was very much impressed with how much Igor has grown up and become very manly.? She was also glad to hear that Guiny is going to take on her role of watching the younger ones this time.? She even offered to send her cane in case Guiny might want to use it but Igor managed to talk her out of it.? (I wonder why he didn't want Guiny to have it.? Maybe his nose still hurts at the memory? : )? ) ? Igor told her about all the princesses and whatnot at Disney World but she said that since she was Queen of the Universe she didn't think she'd be terribly impresses with a bunch of mere Princesses so that didn't interest her at all.? ? It wound?up this morning with Igor taking Lady Bug for a "spin" on the Amsterdam (lovely ship BTW) and Lady Bug promising to consider the next outing that comes up.? Igor promised her she'd be well taken care of and treated with the utmost respect by everyone. ? Lady Bug also reminded Igor that Duke had taught all the guys and some of the girls how to play American Football so he sort of remembered the game when he left. ? Her Majesty sends good wishes and thoughts to all and says someday it would be nice to meet all the new members. ? Joan, slave to The Lady Bug From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jan 31 14:17:23 2009 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:17:23 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY Pirate Igor is missing Message-ID: Janneke, If Igor has stolen the replica of the Amsterdam, I hope he meets with greater success than the crew of the original, which was shipwrecked, in 1749, just a few miles along the coast from where I live. I have walked out to see it at very low tide. I am sure that Igor's navigational skills are exceptional and he will have negotiated the English Channel before the next lot of storms. I will listen out for any reports from the coastguard. I hope that he contacts you soon. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Jan 31 15:11:49 2009 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:11:49 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20090131.121149.22426.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Penny- I'm so sorry to hear you lost Frodo. I am glad he at least had you in his time here on earth. He couldn't have asked for a better slave. Stacy's right, we must cherish ever moment with them. They are never here long enough. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ FTD.com Shop now and save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/u4MuScM2CQr6DrmdRA575XdyXaQItmXwf6t26wPwK8Eb9UjxL09R0/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jan 31 18:02:56 2009 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:02:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Frodo Message-ID: <804390.14867.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Penny & Piggyfriends: I am so terribly sorry that Frodo has gone to the Bridge.? It is just shocking how many piggies are leaving us these days.? Are you okay?? I'm sending you a hug and thinking of you.? I'm so sad for you. "Rest in Peace, Frodo". Hugs, Joanne, Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, and Sweetie "May all that have life be delivered from suffering." ????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? - Buddha From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 31 23:32:24 2009 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:32:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Condolences: Lulu Belle, Murphy, and Frodo Message-ID: <206230.93313.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Your slaves and friends are missing you. Please speak to their hearts to remind them of the joy you shared, and how we should live as piggies, taking every day as it comes and enjoying the moment. You were good teachers and examples to us humans. Thank you, Joanie