From Dukejan1 at aol.com Sat Nov 1 09:18:12 2008 From: Dukejan1 at aol.com (Dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:18:12 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Luke is One Year Old! Message-ID: I'm thrilled to announce that on Saturday Luke turns one year old! I randomly picked the date since I remember him being for sale at the pet store in mid-December of last year. I thought for sure someone would take him home for the holidays. But that didn't happen. Many of you remember the health issues Luke had when he came home in June. I really thought that he might not make it. But after a combination of great vet care, oatmeal bath presses, and loving care, Luke is now a strapping young fellow. He outweighs his sisters, Isabel and Lily, and at 2 1/2 pounds is a likely candidate for LAPS in the future. Luke is the ultimate snuggler and loves to talk as well as play hide and seek. His sisters still aren't sure about him, but they live in one room and communicate with each other. Happy Birthday Luke, my little sweetie! Janet **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 1 09:57:15 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: P.S. wishing you fast recovery Message-ID: <167237.39925.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear little Princess Snowflake; We send all our little paw hugs to you for a fast recovery.Lets see thats 14 guineas and that makes 28 paws!!? Drink drink drink:) Our mommie has been keeping us posted on you:)? So fast recovery to you little lady:) We love our Princess Snowflake stories:) Love, the misfits 14:) From jocelynm at umich.edu Sat Nov 1 11:16:33 2008 From: jocelynm at umich.edu (Anderson, Jocelyn M) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:16:33 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Fireball's bladder stone Message-ID: Hi All, I found out yesterday Fireball has a bladder stone and will be going in for surgery Monday. He's on antibotics, and will be dropped off at 8am for the surgery at 2 pm, and they'll keep him until 5pm. Is there anything in particular that I should be feeding him before he goes in for surgery (this weekend and the morning of)? He's on Critical Care now and down to 888 grams. My Vet told me (if you're eating you might want to skip this part) that reseach has shown that taking poops from a healthy guinea pig and making it into a slurry has been known to help guinea pig with bladder stones from recurring. The idea is that it will help normalize the gut flora in the piggy with the bladder stones. Has anyone else heard this or tried it? She said to try it before surgery, after surgery, and about a week afterwords. Many thanks for all the advice I've gotten before!! Thanks, Jocelyn, Fireball the Fat, Little John, and Flashbang Fatbottom (who threw a huge squeaky fit when his friends went to the vet without him.) From juwles at bigpond.com Sat Nov 1 09:26:36 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:26:36 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS: Missing Digest Message-ID: <13922099F874491CA13C09B890812597@JuliePC> Hi all I seem to have missed either receiving, or maybe I accidentally deleted it, but I can't find Digest Issue No. 321. Would any wonderful piggy slave be able to forward me a copy of that missing digest? My email is juwles at bigpond.com. Warm regards to all Julie & her precious boys From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Nov 1 04:35:51 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:35:51 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc; emails not appearing on digest Message-ID: Is anyone else having problems with their posts not appearing on the digest, over the last couple of weeks a number of my posts have just not appeared, they have not come back to me as rejected by admin and some but not all of them are in the archive. I sent a birthday message to Glynis and Penny that doesnt appear anywhere, I also sent a message about PS bladder which is in archive but not on any digests I have received, I also sent a message about Mieke's shelter which again is not on digest or archive. I wonder if admin could have a look at this for me and let me know if there is a problem or if they never received these emails, I cc'd the people concerned and know that Mieke received her email about the shelter. Also if anyone has seen the posts I mentioned in their digest could you let me know, then at least I know people are seeing them even if I am not. Hope this sorts itself out soon. M + Fugly the Frustrated From ebak at ca.inter.net Sat Nov 1 12:22:22 2008 From: ebak at ca.inter.net (Evelyn Baker) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:22:22 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [Fun] Santa Piggy Message-ID: <649AFAA1-F292-4BC3-94CE-080A38D55C60@ca.inter.net> Is it too late to get on the Christmas Card Exchange list? Evelyn From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Nov 1 12:51:21 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:51:21 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Happy Birthday Luke Message-ID: <6C35BEC473CE4D5DB2E4C952867EC3B1@inspiron1150> We all want to wish Luke a very happy birthday!! After such an inauspicious start in life, hasn't he done well thanks to your loving care. Congratulations Luke, Love and hugs from Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Nov 1 12:51:34 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:51:34 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Emails not appearing on the Digest Message-ID: M, I receive my GPDD in individual posts rather than in digest format but the only post of those that you mentioned that I have seen is the one about PS's bladder trouble. This one reached my Inbox on 28th. October at 18.27. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Nov 1 12:52:08 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:52:08 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Fireball's bladder stone Message-ID: <9A3D3F13AE4C414A886A133878C345FC@inspiron1150> Jocelyn, I have never had a piggy needing surgery for a bladder stone but I have ground up poos from a healthy piggy and syringed them in a slurry to a poorly one. It is a good way to improve gut flora. A similar effect can be had by breaking up a Brewer's yeast tablet and crumbling it in a little water. This is particularly good for boars who have become impacted and may be missing out on the contents of their own caecal pellets. We will be thinking of the little orange boy on Monday and wish him all the very best at the vets. Good luck Fireball, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Nov 1 15:57:46 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:57:46 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Luke Message-ID: <490CB4BA.3060904@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish Luke a very Happy 1st Birthday! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Nov 1 16:12:01 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:12:01 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Fireball's bladder stone and surgery Message-ID: <490CB811.7030800@geeksnet.com> Jocelyn, Fireball the Fat, Little John, and Flashbang Fatbottom, we are very sorry to hear that Fireball has a bladder stone. As for what to feed him before surgery, we would certainly recommend that you keep up with the Critical Care, although don't feed it within two hours of giving his antibiotic; CC has acidophilus in it, which is great for piggie health but can cause an antibiotic to be less effective. Probably other than that you should just keep up with his regular diet, so that he doesn't have any unexpected changes. If you want to give him more pellets to try to get his weight up, you could mix them with water and syringe them as you do the CC. We also highly recommend that you begin giving Fireball bottled water -- not distilled water but regular bottled water. We had trouble finding some of the special bottled waters that bladder stone piggies often get, so we just buy regular bottled water at the grocery, and that has been a tremendous help to Friday (who used to have bladder sludge). We hadn't heard about using poops from a healthy piggie to help prevent bladder stones, but it couldn't hurt! Your vet is going to let Fireball eat until an hour or two before surgery, I hope? Since his surgery is at 2 p.m., it wouldn't be good if he fasted after midnight. Hope this helps. We're sure others who know more will offer additional information. Our best wishes to both you and Fireball. You will be in our prayers. Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Nov 1 16:21:36 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:21:36 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Barnee Message-ID: <490CBA50.9060105@geeksnet.com> Kacee, is Barnee continuing to do well on the antibiotic? How is he doing with the Lasix? It is so wonderful that he is seven and a half, but we hope he will rally and make it to eight and more. We send best wishes to him and also to Kramer. Please do give us an update on them when you get a chance. All of you are in our prayers. Best wishes. Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Nov 1 16:25:51 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:25:51 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Princess Snowflake update Message-ID: <490CBB4F.9020202@geeksnet.com> Leah, Princess Snowflake, and Bertie Pig, we are very glad to hear that Princess Snowflake does not have stones or blood in her urine. It is good that the Shilintong is helping her, and we hope she will also respond well to the antibiotic and the "water therapy." All of you are in our prayers, and we send best wishes. Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sat Nov 1 16:47:05 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:47:05 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: bladder stones and diet Message-ID: <490CC049.6080100@geeksnet.com> As some of you know, I have some experience with bladder stones in piggies, having lost my Sunshine to them last year, despite surgery and all of our best efforts . I think I have learned some things about foods for piggies that might help those with bladder stones or sludge. Will share those in case they might be of help to others. About the time Sunshine passed away, I noticed that someone, either Friday or Tumbleweed, had bladder sludge, and my heart sank. It turned out to be Friday. However, a couple of months ago I realized that Friday no longer has sludge. Friday's diet changed when Sunshine's diet changed, and, from what I can tell, it took perhaps eight or nine months for Friday's sludge to go away. This is what I feed each day: timothy hay and pellets, small bits of green-leaf lettuce, a few small carrot pieces, a small piece of apple, dill, corn/corn silk/corn shucks, cucumber, red bell pepper, and turnip (the white root, not the turnip greens). I feed half a grape tomato to each piggie a few times a week and uncooked oats (uncooked oatmeal) several times a week. I also give bottled water (not distilled), just the generic kind from a grocery store. It seems that one of the biggest helps was eliminating cilantro. I also eliminated parsley and kale (although kale was only an occasional treat). It is very hard to know what to feed a stones piggie or a piggie with sludge. I'm not saying this diet is perfect, but on this diet, Friday's sludge has gone away. I also want to give thanks to all of the diet help I received from GPDD members and members of the bladder stones group. This certainly is not a diet I developed on my own. Could not have done it with the advice of others! Hope this will be of some interest/help to others. Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Nov 1 15:30:52 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:30:52 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Luke Message-ID: <20081101.123052.25716.1@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Happy birthday Luke! My you have many, many more!!! ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m4pDFPUz5usEXOMhvkzJFyvC60CkHiEdROCYmk4LKdajhrH/?count=1234567890 From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Nov 1 15:36:16 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:36:16 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- Fireball's surgery Message-ID: <20081101.123616.25716.2@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Jocelyn- Yes, I have heard of the "poop theory" before! That's all fine & good if you have another piggie to get the poos from. Be sure to keep him warm when you get him home. The vet told me that was important after Albert had his bladder surgery. You & Fireball will be in our thoughts & prayers, esp. Monday. Take care. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Click here to learn more about nursing jobs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3nEvqQRjt7WFpfqnRz6Jgeb0NKIMIcX7qjqlo827RV6Ok02e/?count=1234567890 From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Nov 1 16:46:45 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:46:45 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement; Luke Message-ID: Happy Birthday Luke, make sure your slave spoils you rotten. Fugly the Fantastic From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Nov 1 16:46:06 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:46:06 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] health; Fireball Message-ID: We wish Fireball the best of luck for his surgery, sorry I have no advise about the poop information but its certainly interesting, would a pro-biotic help? M From Guineapigfilms at aol.com Sun Nov 2 02:27:30 2008 From: Guineapigfilms at aol.com (Guineapigfilms at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:27:30 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Princess Snowflake & Berties Halloween Website Message-ID: I am so sorry that my mom and I have been so remiss in posting on the GPDD for so long now. I wanted to thank everyone again for their wonderful good wishes and cards and gifts after my car accident and resultant surgery. I am feeling much better these days (although still in a lot of shoulder and back pain), and going to school full-time and also am back working at the Humane Society part-time. I also foster animals for the Humane Society, and right now I am fostering two little sick kittens. At the moment, I am owned by a Westie and a Yorkie, a dwarf hamster, a gerbil, a rat, a ferret, and a very vocal guinea pig named Otto! My mom and I both read the GPDD regularly, and feel so attached to all of you. I was so thrilled to see the new Halloween website of Princess Snowflake and Bertie! Oh, Leah, your new little piggy is so adorable! And the Princess looks as gorgeous--and yes, as haughty--as ever! LOL Tell her that she'd better get well soon, as her adoring subjects are all worried about her. My old webpage was taken down by AOL a couple of days ago, and my mom made this new one: Http://www.carrotwars.com She's still working on it (the pictures need to be rescanned and resized, for one thing), but I wanted you all to be able to see it. Algernon, I sent you an email ages ago, but didn't hear back. I hope that you got it. I am so thrilled for you that you have a new little piggy to love! I am so sorry for all of you whose little ones have crossed the Rainbow Bridge. Love and WHEEEEEEEEEEPS, Alyssa (and the guinea pig movie stars, long remembered) ************** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http:/ /travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) From juwles at bigpond.com Sun Nov 2 08:55:56 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 23:55:56 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE, SCAMP, Scrabble Message-ID: Dear Debbie I am absolutely heartbroken for you. Your story of Scrabble's last moments on earth have me bawling my eyes out. I am so very sorry for your loss, and so very, very sorry you and your precious boy had to suffer in the effort to bring eternal peace to your beloved one. I don't know what else to say - I'm so distraught at your experience, and even more so for Scrabble's final moments. Thank God he is now in peace, at that beautiful place reserved for our special friends. I hope that you too soon find peace Debbie, my thoughts and prayers are with you. Sadly Julie & her precious piggies From Guineapigfilms at aol.com Sun Nov 2 11:59:23 2008 From: Guineapigfilms at aol.com (Guineapigfilms at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:59:23 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc.: Club Critter Guinea Pig Profile Message-ID: Hi! I sent this message earlier, but forgot to include a heading. (Sorry.) I just wanted to let you know that Onion Ring's profile is up on Club Critter now, and it includes a photo of him riding in an elevator, when he was playing Hokey One Spumoni in "Carrot Wars." The URL is http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/blog/viewbio.aspx?apid=108816, if you would like to see or vote for little Onion Ring!? :) Love and WHEEEEEEEEEEEPS, Alyssa (and the guinea pig movie stars, long remembered) ************** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) From Guineapigfilms at aol.com Sun Nov 2 12:01:56 2008 From: Guineapigfilms at aol.com (Guineapigfilms at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:01:56 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc.: Re: Princess Snowflake & Bertie's Halloween Website Message-ID: (I posted this earlier, but forgot to include a heading.) I am so sorry that my mom and I have been so remiss in posting on the GPDD for so long now. I wanted to thank everyone again for their wonderful good wishes and cards and gifts after my car accident and resultant surgery. I am feeling much better these days (although still in a lot of shoulder and back pain), and going to school full-time and also am back working at the Humane Society part-time. I also foster animals for the Humane Society, and right now I am fostering two little sick kittens. At the moment, I am owned by a Westie and a Yorkie, a dwarf hamster, a gerbil, a rat, a ferret, and a very vocal guinea pig named Otto! My mom and I both read the GPDD regularly, and feel so attached to all of you. I was so thrilled to see the new Halloween website of Princess Snowflake and Bertie! Oh, Leah, your new little piggy is so adorable! And the Princess looks as gorgeous--and yes, as haughty--as ever! LOL Tell her that she'd better get well soon, as her adoring subjects are all worried about her. My old webpage was taken down by AOL a couple of days ago, and my mom made this new one: Http://www.carrotwars.com She's still working on it (the pictures need to be rescanned and resized, for one thing), but I wanted you all to be able to see it. Algernon, I sent you an email ages ago, but didn't hear back. I hope that you got it. I am so thrilled for you that you have a new little piggy to love! I am so sorry for all of you whose little ones have crossed the Rainbow Bridge. Love and WHEEEEEEEEEEPS, Alyssa (and the guinea pig movie stars, long remembered) ************** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) From ebak at ca.inter.net Sun Nov 2 12:43:43 2008 From: ebak at ca.inter.net (Evelyn Baker) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:43:43 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Bladder Stones and Diet Message-ID: <07861E0A-5A9C-4A8B-BB4F-ED94F01ECD29@ca.inter.net> I too have had many experiences with stones and sludge. Dill is also high and calcium, closely related to cilantro. I had to take that out of my guinea pig's diet as well. The other thing that should be avoided is foods with high sugar content like corn on the cob. The shucks and silk are fine and excellent for bladder and kidney health. The foods with high sugar content can raise blood sugar as well as encourage bladder infections. Once I cut back on Phoebe's carrots, fruit and corn she stopped getting the chronic UTIs that she had for most of her life. Also, cat grass which is wheat and oat grasses are rich in calcium. I've found everything in moderation. Like us, if we love it, it's probably not good for us. Evelyn From faststats at faststatschecks.com Sun Nov 2 15:05:24 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:05:24 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Back Alyssa Message-ID: <003801c93d26$57657bd0$0200000a@MaryFran> Hello Alyssa Wheee are so glad to hear from you and that you are doing better. My girls send big WHEEEEKS to Otto. --Mary Fran with Gingerpuff and Miss Muffet From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sun Nov 2 19:10:02 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Luke's Birthday Message-ID: <10069.21079.qm@web52301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Janet I want to wish Luke a very Happy Birthday! May he have many more birthdays! Dawnda and Dexter http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From cmartinez36 at comcast.net Sun Nov 2 21:02:13 2008 From: cmartinez36 at comcast.net (cmartinez36 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Carrot Wars director/producer featured in book! In-Reply-To: <131495321.1964621225677120837.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1285051906.1965561225677733393.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I wrote to the gpdd about this once before, but it bounced back for some reason. Alyssa's e-mail from the sunday gpdd reminded me to try again. There is the cutest booklet in my classroom which is all about Alyssa and her start in making guinea pig movies! Do you have a copy, Alyssa? We do individual reading tests twice a year to see how students are progressing in reading on grade level. I was so tickled when I saw that one of the reading selections for fifth-grade level is called "Lights, Camera, Action!" and subtitled wlth Alyssa's name! There is a big picture of her and, I think, her guinea pig Hazel on the cover! I've had several students who selected Alyssa's book to read for me. It is very engaging with several photos, and contains great technical info for junior film-makers. This book is part of a reading company's packaged reading testing service, so unfortunately probably is not available to purchase. But I am just so thrilled to make the connection between the gpdd and Alyssa for my students, because I never "knew" anyone from the books before. Just thought you'd like to know -- Admiring wheeks from Carla, Apache and Remy From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 13:59:10 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:59:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Hershey's new pigpen Message-ID: <63977.89226.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yesterday I threw together a large playpen made of those interlocking wire cubes and zip ties?I made her cage out of. I lined it with a waterproof mattress cover with a large, thick beach towel over it. We've had our cuddle time on my recliner (similarly covered to protect from the fountains of pee that accompany her). This is the first time she could choose to distance herself from me. I used little blades of grass to convince her that I'm a fun junglejoan to climb on. It was so nice to be approached by her!! There's nothing like a piggie in your lap. I put a velour pillow in there with us. You should have seen her perched on it. Can something be majestic and cute at the same time? I'm going to try and get some photos of her, and hopefully my kids'll pigure out how to make them available to my fellow pigiphiles. Pigfully, Joanie From gwendolynsnyder at verizon.net Mon Nov 3 21:27:03 2008 From: gwendolynsnyder at verizon.net (Gwendolyn Snyder (Verizon)) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:27:03 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MITES Message-ID: What can anybody recommend for saw dust mites. A friend of mine gave me Revolution , indicating to put one drop , but this made him sick , so I don't plan on using any flea type product . He is very healthy , but over the last couple weeks starting scratching , and I was told it is mites. We did give him a bath last Saturday , and that seemed to help , we changed the brand of chips and that too had helped, but ever once on a while he still scratches. Can anybody suggest something, preferably all natural to combat mites?? Gwen & (Woobie) to see Woobie's picture go to http://woobie1.shutterfly.com He is an adorable Teddy Bear Guinea pig, a gift from the President of a local Cavy Club . I plan on showing him , very soon. From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Tue Nov 4 09:19:14 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:19:14 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Princess Snowflake is Drinking her Wah-Wah!!! (water) Message-ID: Hello there, Piggies & Slaves! I meant to write sooner, but I just have to tell you guys that the Princess is drinking water (on her own)!!! Yippee!! She actually started drinking again this past wheeekend on Friday night. Her Daddy Slave (my almost ex-Hubby) came by and so I think she didn't like me talking to someone else (and ignoring her). So, she ran over to one of their water bottles and started vigorously attacking it, as if she were thinking, "Heeeeellllllloooooooo??? Look at ME! Look at MEEEEE!!! I'm drinking my Wah-Wah!!!" hee hee It's funny cuz both PS & Bertie Pig know what I mean when I say, "Drink your Wah-Wah!" and when I say it, they drink. Those piggies are so smart, I tell ya. So, she has been drinking a lot of water, which is good. That's the piggie I'm used to! I guess that Cipro stuff (antibiotic) is working. I'm still giving her Shilintong every other day. And I will check her urine tonight using the urine strips. It's so Good to have the 'ole Princess back...Wheeek! THANK YOU again for all of the advice and well wishes for my Baby Girl!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to PS & BP :-) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 4 12:29:52 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:29:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: bedding Message-ID: <214987.6060.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Woobie is absolutely adoreable!!! And he looks like a Woobie, too. If he's getting bugs from his bedding, it might be a good idea to switch to a recycled newspaper product. The sawdust may be itching him all by itself, too. My piggies loved their newspaper bedding. I've switched to a fabric bedding which is more work but less expensive and softer on the feet. Good luck with those bugs! Joanie and Hershey From pandameisje at gmail.com Tue Nov 4 13:39:23 2008 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:39:23 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Health/Silly: Hi Woobie, my name is Woopy! Message-ID: Dear Woobie, My name is Woopy. I am a rex piggy just like you. At least judging from your pigtures, I think you are a rex, could also be a US teddy... I was stunned when my slave showed me your pigture. We look very much alike!! Are you sure you are not a far cousin of mine? We seem to have the same hair structure and the same color. Are you a grey (brownish that is) or a Silver agouti piggy? You can see my pigture here... http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/j5sUCwdzRG0oLc5v0qdDng See how much we resemble each other? If i have to guess your age I think you are also the smae age as I am which is 6 months old, am I correct? Our names are also very similar! Did your slave give you that name? I got my name from the breeder I came from... We do have some differences: I am a girl piggy and if I understood correctly you are a guy piggie.. And I have this little creme-colored stripe on my left shoulder. You can see that on this pigture: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/exgiwMJY-Ute2xRWC5QP3g But anywayz *Giggle* I think you are a very handsome piggy! *Blush* Would you maybe like to be my PenPig (penpal)? Lots of wheeks from the netherlands, Woopy of the Winky girls. P.s. Uncle Igor and Aunties Suus and Yaya came to visit us this wheekend... Of course our slave had to take loads of pigtures of us during floortime (having divided the kitchen into 3 sections) If you want you can see these here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pandameisje/PettingZooGuinyDunyaWoopyChicoTobySuusYayaIgor# -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com m.staaks at pecoma.nl Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From Guineapigfilms at aol.com Tue Nov 4 17:22:11 2008 From: Guineapigfilms at aol.com (Guineapigfilms at aol.com) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:22:11 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Onion Ring is Critter of the Day!!!! Message-ID: Onion Ring is Critter of the Day!!!!!! I am thrilled to announce that our little Onion Ring was voted Critter of the Day today! What a great day for a little "rescue pig" who was deemed unsaleable at the pet shop because they thought that he was blind! Thanks so much for voting for him! Here's the link to his bio: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/blog/viewbio.aspx?apid=108816&breed=&PageSource=PhotoGallery Nancy (& Alyssa) www.carrotwars.com ************** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntu strav00000001) From juwles at bigpond.com Tue Nov 4 20:23:47 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:23:47 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] MITES In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <027E1E976B4B4897A6E961A046A6F9AD@JuliePC> Hi Gwen, I use Ivermectin - 1ml per 1kg bodyweight. Then, 7 days later another dose. I also use Selsun to bathe piggies in - that was recommended by Peter Gurney in his fantastic website, and sometimes the Selsun bath is enough to rid them of the mites. The Selsun also works against lice. I have heard of some people using the spot on stuff, but it needs to be for the smallest size animal, and the same as would be given to a cat, not a dog. I myself won't use the spot on stuff. Good luck with your little boy, Julie & her precious piggies From Glynis at garnay.com.au Tue Nov 4 23:05:34 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:05:34 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Happy Birthday LUKE Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092169@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK Happy birthday little man, so pleased you've reached this milestone, it's been a struggle but from now on let's cross our paws that you'll stay forever well xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Janet i'm thrilled for you love, after what you've both been thru.....ahhhhh isn't it lovely to celebrate a birthday with our babies xxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Tue Nov 4 23:16:18 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:16:18 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Back Alyssa Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF92309216A@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY So lovely to see you're back on again love, we've all missed you so much. Your mum was been wonderful keeping us up to date. I'm very sorry it's taken so long for you to be back on your feet again, but very pleased to hear that you're nearly healed up again xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx awwwwww sounds like you're really enjoying the rescue and society work, WELL DONE xxxxxx Looking forward to hearing from you both more often in the near future. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Algernon07 at aol.com Wed Nov 5 03:33:27 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:33:27 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Care: Mites Message-ID: Is he scratching a lot or is it just an occasional scratch? If he has mites, you can get a product called ivermectin. You can of course go to your vet, have him give the piggy his first shot or administer it orally and request that he send you home with a couple capped needless syringes to repeat his dose at 10 day to 2 week intervals so that all the mites are gone. (No point in having to go back to the vet 2 additional times.) Ivermectin is also avaliable from feed stores. It is a wormer for horses and dog people also use it. The trick is in knowing HOW to use it. Get a q-tip and cut the cotton bud off, leaving only the, umm...stick?? I'm not sure what to call it. Then put an amount the size of a small pea on the end of the little stick and get it into his mouth! You'll want to do this 2 more times (at 10 days to 2 weks apart) as above. Only one minerature dollop at a time. You do NOT want to overdose him. This can also be made into a liquid -- if you do that, I think you put oe drop of the liquid behind each ear. I've never done it that so someone else will have to tell you how to mix and measure. But its always a tiny amount thta you're working with given that most tubes of horse paste, while relatively inepensive, are designed for a 1250 pound horse. I reread your post, every "now and then" he scratches. My piggies alsso scratch every now and then but it doesn't mean they have mites. We did do battle a couple of years ago, however. Anyway, occasional scratching is normal. Is your little guy biting at his back? His his skin showing irritation? You might go to guinealynxs also and look up mites. I wouldn't recommend treating him if you don't need to. Also, having him tested for mites is usually quite painful for the piggy (they do a skin scrapping) and much of the time the results are not accurate. Hopefully, someone else will also post a reply to your question. Good luck, Alge and the Jolly Rodent Pirate Crew ************** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! 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Way to go, Humane Society! Alge, Captain Jack and Barnacle Bill <-----throwing confetti all around ************** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) From pals4pets at cheerful.com Wed Nov 5 03:49:40 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:49:40 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Nuage, 3rd Dolly Mixture in a month Message-ID: <20081105084940.CD92211581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> You all know that Nuage had a huge swelling around her side/abdomen, and I thank those of you who wrote suggesting what it might be. Your consensus of opinion seemed to be that whatever it was, it was incurable, so I put her on "hospice" care. Gradually her mobility became reduced by the swelling, and her eating and drinking reduced, although she was always there wheeking with her cagemates at foodtimes and getting excited. She would just sniff round the greens but not actually eat them. The last couple of days, all she would eat was cucumber and banana, so I got her out and gave her as much as those as she could eat. She had been drinking and urinating a lot, and had a brown "tide mark" around her rear end, plus her butt area had become dried and scabby and uncomfortable looking. So Monday morning, my 52nd birthday, I asked someone to help me bath just that butt area. Nuage didn't like it, though we were as gentle as we could be and I have bathed many piggies before. When I started blow-drying her, she suddenly gasped 4 or 5 times, opening her mouth incredibly wide, and I was very alarmed as I have never seen that. Then she went limp in my arms and my quickly sent for stethoscope confirmed the worst - she had gone to The Rainbow Bridge. I don't think I killed her. I think she was on her way out anyway, and I just hastened her departure. If anything, the lack of adequate vet care where I live killed her. But I am very sad that she went like that, as she was obviously frightened and uncomfortable. I would rather just have found her dead in the hutch one morning. But I think she did realise that she was loved and that I was trying to help her and make her more comfortable. Nuage was one of the 5 piggies bought for me after 5 of my original rescues were killed by dogs on 6th May 2003 - so she was definitely a SCAMP, though I don't know her exact age - probably about 5 and a half. I have never got round to putting her on the SCAMPS website, but will do, in conjunction with her fellow SCAMPS Gisele, Ambree and Caramel. Her name means "Cloud" in French, and I named her that because she was white and grey, like a cloud. She was always a "piggies' pig" rather than a slave's pig, although, as has been mentioned here before, when she became ill she was much more willing to accept contact with her slave and let me cuddle her. She had started making that puppy wimpering noise - am I the only slave to hear this, or do other people's piggies make that sound when they are really poorly? She had an extra toe on one of her back feet, and when I first got her this had a huge ball of pooh wrapped round it, which I had to gradually remove, which wasn't easy, but I think she felt better for it afterwards. Like all the Dolly Mixtures, Nuage loved to be outside in the summer, and had her own special place in the run where she'd nibble grass and sunbathe. I am sure she has found herself a similar special place there in that Rainbow Meadow, where she has been reunited with previous hutch mates Cannelle, Poivre, Muscade, Pirouette, Scruff, Chestnut, Cherry and Scarecrow. She was the 3rd Dolly Mixture to leave for The Rainbow Bridge within the past month - Zebra went on 3rd October, and of course poor Scrabble 21st October. I was always dreading the year the Dolly Mixtures turned 5, and it seems I was right to do so, as Fidget, Cherry and Scarecrow have also left this year. There are only 8 Dolly Mixtures left now. Luckily, Nuage had always lived with the other 3 "Young 'Uns", as we called those that were bought for me after the massacre, so she hasn't left anyone alone, although 3 piggies do rattle about a bit in their great big indoor hutch! I'm really sorry to be so behind with my emails - I do still intend to send condolences for Huck. Life has been a bit hectic just lately - I found out on 30th October (my partner's 58th birthday) that I have secondary cancer in my liver and lung areas, so I am waiting to know what chemotherapy I must have and trying to start "putting my affairs in order", just in case! Debbie "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From bunsnpigs at aol.com Wed Nov 5 12:11:36 2008 From: bunsnpigs at aol.com (bunsnpigs at aol.com) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:11:36 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Accouncement: Off Topic But Fantastic! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB0D80B1C111BA-858-6F0@WEBMAIL-DC12.sysops.aol.com> Proposition #2 has passed in California -- its objective is to reduce the suffering and the horribly inhumane living conditions on what we've come to know YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!? Now if the rest of the country would follow suit... Judi Lainer Metropolitan Guinea Pig Rescue http://www.mgpr.org Fosterer/Educator House Rabbit Society MD/DC/NoVA Chapter http://www.rabbitsinthehouse.org http://www.rabbit.org From ebak at ca.inter.net Wed Nov 5 11:28:33 2008 From: ebak at ca.inter.net (Evelyn Baker) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:28:33 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Mites Message-ID: If your guinea pig has mites, I would take him to a vet to confirm it. Generally, Invermectin is for mites. Be very careful what drugs you use on guinea pigs and quantity as they are very sensitive. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 5 12:25:51 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:25:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge: Debbie Message-ID: <191806.90164.qm@web80202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dearest Debbie, Our deepest sympathy to you? for your loss of little? Nuage. She was a lucky to pig to have you as her slave.?I am deeply sorry for your recent news of cancer. We will be praying for? you.? May little Nuage run free and enjoy all that the?meadow over the bridge has to offer. Our deepest sympathy, Jean & Andy and? the 14 misfits. From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 5 13:14:57 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:14:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE--Condolences Message-ID: <452960.28422.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh, Debbie, I'm just a newby here, but I've quickly come to appreciate your wisdom and your great love for all piggies and their slaves. I'm SO sorry you're going through so much right now. You and your little ones and partner are in our prayers. Know that you are loved! Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 5 13:18:08 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:18:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Wormers Message-ID: <245742.66855.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you are going to use a horse wormer, be advised that there are several different kinds, so check to make sure it's ivermectin you're using. Your horse and pig fan, Joanie From pals4pets at cheerful.com Wed Nov 5 13:06:11 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:06:11 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Belated condolences for Huck Message-ID: <20081105180612.16A541642A6@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Donna and the SC pigs Please forgive the belatedness of this expression of our condolences. We were so very sorry to read of the departure to The Rainbow Bridge of your precious little soldier Huckleberry. We are glad he was able to choose his own departure time, and that you were able to spend that precious time together shortly before he went, but we know the deep pain you must feeling at the loss of such a dearly beloved friend. We know he is in excellent company, as the Dolly Mixtures Zebra, Scrabble and Nuage have only just gone to The Bridge themselves - they will no doubt all be exploring that wonderful sunshine-filled meadow together, delighted with the discovery of each old friend. When piggies become frail it is comforting to think that they are at last free from discomfort and have fit, healthy bodies with which to popcorn to their hearts' content. Words are never adequate at times such as this, but please take some solace in the knowledge that members of the gpdd community all over the globe are thinking of you and wishing you well. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Wed Nov 5 20:23:39 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:23:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Nuage, 3rd Dolly Mixture in a month Message-ID: <232936.6080.qm@web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Debbie I hate it that you have had such a hard time lately with your guinea pigs! I can't believe it, even on your birthday! How awful! I found my Katie on Christmas morning and that was awful too! I have lost several in a short period of time and I know how bad it makes you feel. I know she knew she was loved. It sounds like she had a heart attack which probably saved her from much pain and suffering. Going quickly is much better and you did not have to put her to sleep. May the rest of your babies stay healthy and happy. I send my deepest condolences to you. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Wed Nov 5 20:36:46 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:36:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Health Message-ID: <324793.13175.qm@web52307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Debbie I so sorry to hear that you have cancer. I live in the Appalachian Area in the US and cancer is extremely common around here. Chemotherapy will suck, but try to keep your spirits up. A positive attitude helps tremendously! I will be praying for your healing and I am positive everyone else here on the digest will be doing the same. May God give you his healing touch! I will have my church pray for you healing, as well. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From Algernon07 at aol.com Thu Nov 6 08:03:56 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:03:56 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Onion Ring/ COTD Message-ID: Hi Alyssa, I'm putting another URL here for you and everyone. This one won't take you to Onion Ring's photo gallery page but straight to his critter club profile page. > http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/blog/viewbio.aspx?apid=108816 > We're so happy to have him! I think we missed him being COTD -- just because we didn't log on when we usually do. But congratulations to both of you. Lots of "critters" have been to his profile page. Captain Jack and Barnacle Bill (and Alge of course) ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) From Algernon07 at aol.com Thu Nov 6 08:07:26 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:07:26 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: oops -- both URL's take you to Onion Ring's profile Message-ID: ooops -- we made a mistake -- both URL's take you straight to Onion Ring's profile page. We shsould have tested before we sent the other email. Alge and the Jolly Rodent Pirate Crew ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.a ol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 6 12:44:40 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:44:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] BEHAVIOR: Trust Message-ID: <331947.10532.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had such a nice snuggle time with Hershey last night. I've had her since Mother's Day, and she's finally starting to enjoy being petted. She was making her darling cooing noises almost an hour, and looking up at me with the beginnings of trust in her shiny, dark button eyes. Who cares if I got peed on a little? She's worth it! I've been able to take horses and feral cats and my rabbit to that just beginning phase, but there's a level that I've never been able to attain with any of them. I guess I lack the confidence in myself to handle them when they don't want to be, such as for catching, bathing (she's a loooong-haired piggie whose hind end must be clipped and rinsed with water at least once a week), nail clipping, and other for-their-own-good activities. Any suggestions as to how to take the Mother Role and overcome my fear while maintaining her trust? Trust, I believe, is one of the greatest gifts one creature can give another. ? Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 6 12:57:14 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:57:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Nuage Message-ID: <895772.23618.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I once knew an elderly lady who took in sick, injured, and baby birds. I asked her how she could stand losing so many of them (back before any formulated foods were available and mortality rates were so high most people would've been discouraged and given up). She said something that has stuck with me some forty years. She said that any bird under her care would either live or they'd die warm, clean, fed, sheltered, and loved. Nuage was all that and more. I'd call her a lucky girl. The very last thing she experienced was loving hands taking care of her needs. May we all be so fortunate. ? Joanie From mfug at live.co.uk Thu Nov 6 12:18:43 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:18:43 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge Message-ID: Debbie I am sorry that you have lost your little Nuage on top of Scrabble and Zebra this must be such a hard time for you at the moment. I think Cloud is a beautiful name for a piggy and every time you look up at the sky you will be reminded of your furbaby. I am sending you loads of love and support especially as you yourself are unwell at this moment in time, I hope it all goes welll for you and that we will soon here you have the all clear. All our love M and Fugly _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Nov 6 14:42:19 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:42:19 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE Nuage Message-ID: <087983EA52AB4D6AB8A9AA59309CB484@inspiron1150> Debbie, I am so sorry to read that you have lost little Nuage, especially so soon after Zebra and Scrabble. Don't think for a moment that giving her a bath was responsible for her departure. She knew that you were trying to help her and would have enjoyed being nice and clean afterwards. Her time had just come, sadly on your birthday, but you were with her and she will have known how much she was loved. I have seen piggies open their mouths like that before leaving. I believe that they are trying to take in extra oxygen when their bodies are failing. I once had a Piggyfriend whom I named Cloud. She was a beautiful white Rex, with a lovely nature, who presented us with 5 little babes not long after being rescued. We all send lots of love as you are not well at the moment. All of us on the GPDD will be wishing you well as you embark on your chemotherapy. Take care. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From cuttlefisharts at comcast.net Thu Nov 6 16:32:48 2008 From: cuttlefisharts at comcast.net (Cuttlefish Arts) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:32:48 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Older than we think? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We have a female GP that we believe to be somewhere between 4 and 5 years old -- she came from a shelter, and was supposed to be "about a year old". Over the last year, she has become thin and lost much of her ability to walk. At first she just "bunny hopped". Now she's really very nearly unable to get around. She has an appetite, and eats on her own, but can't seem to gain weight. She's in good spirits, I keep her clean and give her critical care to keep her weight up; she doesn't appear to be in any particular pain. She isn't really able to squeak anymore, either, almost like she's lost her voice. Let me just say; we've worked with a reputable exotics vet, and we have been able to find no organic reason for her problems, other than some arthritis and some slight spinal fractures that might have happened when she was small; we've researched her problems very intensely and not come up with anything. We just keep her going the best we can. Her housemate, a 4 year old neutered male, adores her. In the past 6 or more months, we have noticed white hair appearing on her black areas (she's a dutch/mixed) and kind of wonder if she just isn't really very, very, old? I know it could be stress from her illness, but I've never actually had a cavy get extremely old, they all seem to end up passing away at about 5 1/2 years old, despite our very good husbandry. She was pretty large when I got her from the shelter and the more I think about it, I wonder if it's typical that a 1 year old female would be that big (almost 3lbs when we got her.) Of course, if she had babies before that, that's maybe not THAT big. Anyway, anyone out there have any experience with elderly guinea pigs? Any insight would be appreciated, especially what really old age looks like in a GP so we can better evaluate her. We're dedicated to keeping Angela going as long as her life is comfortable. From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 6 16:52:34 2008 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:52:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge for snickers Message-ID: <398692.65783.qm@web46404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> hello everyone this is katie and lizzy again lizzy and I would like to tell you her friend Snickers had passed away but we don't know why we need help. thanks From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Nov 6 21:30:51 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:30:51 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Nuage Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092172@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Oh Debbie i'm sitting here sobbing for you love :o( what a terrible time you've had, yes i remember you saying that you were nervous about this year............. RIP Nuage run free at the bridge sweet girl, have fun popcorning and munching the dandelions and grass with the family members already there, you're going to be so sadly missed but NEVER forgotten xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))) and lots of love from me to you lovely lady and the greiving Dolly Mixtures xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Thankyou also again for sharing so much of her little life with us, she knew she was very very loved by you xxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Nov 6 21:35:09 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:35:09 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Debbie Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092173@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Oh love i'll be thinking of you all the time, i do hope that the chemo knocks the cancer out!! Stay positive we'll all be here for you and you know you've got many many little piggies who'll have their paws crossed for you too xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx When the DM's came to Dukey's party they told me often just how kind and lovely you were and how spoilt they were (yes they finally admitted it!!!) and all the cuddles you gave them all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Take care love HUGE HUGS Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Nov 6 21:38:21 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:38:21 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] condolences for Snickers Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092174@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Oh love i'm so sorry to read this :o( Perhaps little Snickers had a heart attack? RIP Snickers run free at the bridge little one, popcorn with the other piggies and munch on the lovely green grass too, you've left behind a very sad mummy and friend.....but you'll NEVER be forgotten xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))) and loves for you sweetie and for the greiving Lizzy too xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Dukejan1 at aol.com Fri Nov 7 10:15:52 2008 From: Dukejan1 at aol.com (Dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:15:52 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Re: Nuage Message-ID: Deb, I'm so sorry to hear that yet another Dolly mixture has crossed the bridge. You have so much to deal with at one time. My thoughts and prayers are with you as you deal with the chemotherapy. Janet **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 7 12:11:29 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:11:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge:snickers Message-ID: <691052.79869.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Katy, So sorry for your loss of little Snickers. May little Snickers run free and fast at the bridge:0 and enjoy all that is there.? Give little Lizzy a big cuddle for us as I am sure she is very sad also. Take care of yourself as Lizzy needs lots of cuddles and hugs from you :) sympathies to you, Andy & Jean and our misfits 14 From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Nov 7 12:15:12 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:15:12 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Snickers Message-ID: HI Katie and Lizzy we are sorry your little friend Snickers has gone to the bridge so suddenly. Was Snickers a young piggy? they sometimes have heart problems or genetic defects which can cause sudden death. Run free Snickers enjoy the lovely meadows and new friends. Love to Katie and Lizzy left behind M and Fugly _________________________________________________________________ Win ?1000 John Lewis shopping sprees with BigSnapSearch.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Fri Nov 7 12:17:08 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:17:08 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20081107.091708.5649.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Debbie- I'm so sorry to hear about Nuage & how hard things have been for you lately. I guess that old "when it rains it pours" expression must have some truth to it. You have been through so much & I wish I could make it better for you. I am also very sorry to hear you are sick with cancer. Please know I will be thinking of you & saying prayers for your healing every day. Please also give my condolences to your partner. My thoughts & prayers are with you both. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Get help now! Click to find the right drug rehab solution for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3nCeLMIBjFi5klNIBbsi7FteidAUliAbeKJ8boiA3PoCESW7/?count=1234567890 From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 13:30:28 2008 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:30:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Possible bladder stone Message-ID: <523872.82556.qm@web50504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello fellow slaves, I had to take Spunky to the vet because his bottom had been wet for 3 days. He also had a whiteish milkish color to his urnine Of course I had to wait till monday to take him and of course when monday came Spunky's bottom was dry and he wasn't nearly as unhappy either. I thought well it would be a good chance to get the herd a check up anyway so I halled all 3 of their buts to the vet.?Spunky had a UA cause he peed on the doctor's table and then an xray to make sure that he didn't have bladder stones. All test turned out fine, no infections or stones. The vet and I agree that he posibly had passed a bladder stone and that he seemed healthy otherwise. Miss Perky was determined to be "Fat" as she weighed in at 2.7 pounds. Little did he know about our LAPS piggies and that Miss Perky was merely in training (LOL). Miss Pooky was not quit as heavy weighing in at 2.4 pounds. Spunky weighed about the same as Miss Perky so he is no longer still a LAPS piggie but I'm sure that's due to old age. Birdie From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 13:47:41 2008 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:47:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Spunky's reaction to Meds Message-ID: <172488.37250.qm@web50511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> After taking Spunky to the vet I had to give him a liquid med SMZ TMP Susp 240mg, what ever that is. Well Mr. Spunky was not that eggcited about the meds, just about as eggcited over the? $108 vet bill, and balked a bit about taking it. I sat him down on the table in front of me to syringe him the meds and he smelt it and promptly turned his head. The look on his face stuck me as funny and I laughed. It was the look of what the heck is that stuff you are trying to give me GLARE of which he is so good at. Well after laughing at him I was given another look that was basically, "What is wrong with you mom? You are giving me nasty stuff and then you have the nerve to laugh at me as well! Usually he will open his mouth and take the syringe with little discussion. This time he was so ticked at me I had to hold his mouth open enough to get the tip in. After giving him his dose he must have forgiven me as he charged right up to his usual spot? between my shoulder and my neck. Either he forgave me or he thought that was the one place I couldn't give him more meds. In any event what ever the reason he carried on with his usual retine of the headbutt gave that we play. It like our way of saying to each other we cann't get close enough to each other, then he settles in and toally colaspes in bliss on my shoulder. Birdie From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 16:06:44 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:06:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Snickers Message-ID: <837411.73762.qm@web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Katie I am so sorry that you and Lizzy lost Snickers. It is always a shock when they pass away really fast. It is usually a heart attack when they go fast like that. I have had 4 die with a heart attack. I know how hard it is. Maybe after you have both grieved for Snickers, you can get Lizzy a friend. If you give her lots of attention, she will be OK living alone. She may act very depressed at first though. Again I am sorry for your loss. Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 16:17:58 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:17:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Re: Older than we think? Message-ID: <755953.33909.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It sounds like she is elderly. They do change their color of fur when they get older. Some colors change more than others. I have learned with so many that I have had to recognize the older look in guinea pigs. Their fur even looks different when they are older. The bunny hop is definitely arthritis. It can get very bad like in humans. It sounds like that is her main problem. My guinea pigs with arthritis was on metacam for the pain. My oldest guinea pig's digestive system shut down and she quit eating. The vet said it would be best to put her to sleep before she starved to death. That was hard because I had her the longest, but you do what is best for the pig. Just keep her clean and comfortable. They get sweeter as they get older too. Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From Guineapigfilms at aol.com Fri Nov 7 16:05:09 2008 From: Guineapigfilms at aol.com (Guineapigfilms at aol.com) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:05:09 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement-Re: Onion Ring is Critter of the Day! Message-ID: Alge, Thanks for printing out the link again! I almost missed the announcement, too! I'm not on the computer as much anymore, because of schoolwork, schoolwork, and MORE schoolwork!!!! But my mom just happened to see the picture, probably right before the Small Animal Channel took it away! (I don't think they put them up there for very long.) I still can't get over that he won Critter of the Day. I never expected that. And on the same day as the US election for President, too!!!! :) (You see, every vote counts!) I guess the voting actually goes on for awhile, since he could still be named "Critter of the Month." Here's the link again: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/blog/viewbio.aspx?apid=108816&breed=&PageSource=PhotoGallery Love and WHEEEEEEEPS, Alyssa ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holiday s-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 19:06:35 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:06:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Nuage Message-ID: <496737.73683.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Debbie...you lost another piggy baby?!!!? I guess I missed your post but just read the condolences on the digest. I am so so sorry!? I'm thinking of you, sending a giant hug, and hope you know how much I care. Please take care of yourself. May Nuage Rest in Peace.? I hope she frolicking with her piggy friends and gets to meet my own Annie, Abbie, and Monkee. Hugs to you, Joanne and her 6 piggies "There is nothing in which the birds differ more from man than the way in which they can build and yet leave a landscape as it was before."? ~ Robert Lynd From ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 21:09:15 2008 From: ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com (Stacy Harvey) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:09:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] (Health) Elderly Piggies Message-ID: <885329.54971.qm@web53007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My Maxine is 7 1/2+ years old, so I guess that makes her geriatric. We don't know how old she is for sure as we got her from a friend, but I can say that she has outlived all my other pigs that were around when she came to live with us. ? Maxine?is a red color, but her "muzzle" is now peppered with white. She seems to see okay (no cataracts) and her hearing is good although she produces a lot of ear wax. The biggest problem that I have with her is she doesn't move around a lot so we are constantly battling urine scald and UTIs (she gets around fine, just a little slower than in her youth.) She does bunny hop occasionally (x-rays show some arthritis in the hips), and on those days I give her a few drops of Metacam. She does some "hooting" when she breathes and I usually hear it in the morning. Some days she has it, others she doesn't. Her appetite is?good. Her "wheeker" is also broken--she can wheek but it sounds like a whisper and she used to be a very vocal pig. She also has ovarian cysts that make her abdomen look rather large, but they aren't causing her any problems right now. ? There is something that older piggies have?been known to get called "wasting disease". Even though they eat well they continue to lose weight. That happend to my Max who passed a few years ago; it started with problems with his teeth and just got progressively worse. We don't know if the teeth problems?caused this "wasting"?or if they were a?result of??it.?He was about 5 1/2 years old when I had to help him across the Bridge. ? There is some anecdotal evidence that the wasting may be hyperthyroidism, which my little Tigger is experiencing now. There is hardly any information out there about it, which is very frustrating when you have a sick piggy. ? We hope your little Angela is doing well. ? -Stacy and the Squee Squad From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Nov 7 20:11:32 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:11:32 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Older than we think? Message-ID: <1F3736F35347497D861DAEE587B899FD@inspiron1150> I have been very lucky to have many of my Piggyfriends reach extreme old age. As they are all rescued I never know their true age, unless they arrived in utero, but they have lived with me for enough years for them to counted amongst the really elderly. I have found that they often lose a lot of weight as they age. Currently my Diamond, fast approaching her sixth birthday, weighs much less than she used to. As she is a Peruvian, this is not noticeable until I pick her up, as all that long hair covers quite a bony piggy underneath. She eats as well as ever and is always on the lookout for more food, sitting up to beg just as she did as a piglet. In April, she started bunny-hopping, a sure sign of arthritis. On the advice of my Rodentologists, I started her on Potter's Tabritis tablets as per Peter Gurney's Old Age page http://www.oginet.com/pgurney/oldage.htm With days she was bouncing around her pen. I make no apologies for mentioning this wonderful remedy again. I have posted about it before but there could be new members in the UK with arthritic piggies who could benefit from this. For members in the UK, these tablets are available from Holland and Barrett, who do ship to Europe. I wonder if this is available elsewhere? Diamond loves her Potter's and grabs the syringe to get every last drop. Until 2007, I had Ash and her daughter, Sylvie, both of whom lived past their seventh birthday. Their coats were pale grey so it is hard to say whether they lightened with age. They both lost weight in their last months. Elderly piggies often sleep most of the day and consequently eat less so the weight loss is not surprising but they also lose muscle tone as they exercise less too. Some of the elderly ones have thinner coats and lose the glossy sheen of their youth. My Rowan, in his seventh year, lost weight as he began to have dental problems. As he slept so much more, he ate less hay and his teeth overgrew. I did not have the benefit of my Rodentologists in those days to do the dental work without an anaesthetic and I know that the repeated anaesthesia at the vets took a toll on him and his recovery took longer each time. I remember how his coat, cinnamon agouti, would stand out rather than lay flat and looked dry. The first two piggies that I ever had, back in the mists of time, both lived to be seven. I wonder if that was normal for those bygone days? Has more and more inbreeding changed their genetic make-up? Are they more susceptible to 21st. century diseases? Something to think about. Elderly ones often have runny eyes, which can be helped with Optrex. My old Rolo's eyes ran so much that the tears crystallised beneath his eyes. I dissolved this with cocoa butter cream from Gorgeous Guineas as the crystals can burn the skin. He used to love this being done and I wonder if he enjoyed the pleasant smell of the cream. Their eyes often look dull too and some lose their eyesight as they age, although this never seems to present them any problems. If they are unable to get around, I give the aged piggies a square of Vetbed to sit on. This keeps them dry and comfortable and is cosy in our miserable English climate. The oldest piggy that I ever met was Amazing Maisie, who belonged to my Rodentologists. She lived to celebrate her tenth birthday. She had heart trouble and I doubt that she could have survived that long without instant access to meds but she was a lovely old lady. She had the wildest hair, red and white, and never looked small but underneath all that coat, she became tiny. She hardly moved but enjoyed her food to the last and to a piggy, that is all important. Our own Sarah cared for her Monty for eight years and might post some more info. I have seen pigtures of him as he aged and he reminds me so much of my Rowan. There is just a look about an elderly piggy. I think of them as wise and thoughtful, remembering their own early years when they watch the young ones cavorting about but content just to sit and munch and put the piggy world to rights with their aged friends. Remembering all these piggies past has brought a few tears to my eyes. All those lovely piggies, departed but always loved. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From calliope at geeksnet.com Fri Nov 7 21:26:46 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:26:46 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Nuage Message-ID: <4914F8E6.1050100@geeksnet.com> Debbie and the Dolly Mixtures, it was with much sadness that we read of Nuage's leaving for the Rainbow Bridge. You have had a hard year, and particularly a hard last few weeks, and our hearts go out to you. We are so very sorry that she is your third piggie to pass away since the beginning of October. Please know that you didn't hasten her trip by bathing her. You were worried about her butt area becoming scabby and uncomfortable looking, and, if it is any consolation, we, too, would have bathed that area. We hope you will find comfort in knowing that she was happy to be in your arms as she left this world; what better place could she have been? It is so poignant to hear of how you did all your best to feed her whatever she would agree to eat in her final days. She certainly had no doubt of how lucky she was and much you loved her, and her becoming a SCAMP certainly is a tribute to your excellent care. Thank you for sharing some of your memories of her. We do remember when she joined your family after five of your rescues were killed by dogs. How sweet that in the summers, she found her own special place to sunbathe and eat grass. Yes, we bet she now has the celestial version of that place. Please accept our condolences on Nuage's passing, and our deepest sorrow that she took her final journey on your birthday. Please also know that you are in our thoughts and prayers as you go through chemotherapy. In fact, people all around the GPDD world are praying for you. Best wishes and healing wheeks. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Fri Nov 7 21:31:27 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Snickers Message-ID: <4914F9FF.70504@geeksnet.com> Katie and Lizzy, we are so very sorry to hear that Lizzy's friend Snickers passed away. There are many reasons Snickers might have gone to the Rainbow Bridge; perhaps Snickers was very old or had heart failure or any number of other things. Perhaps you could give us more information, and we might be able to be of more help. However, of course, it is hard to be sure. We hope that Lizzy will be all right. Sometimes piggies mourn when their pals leave, so it would be good to give Lizzy extra attention. Please accept our condolences. We're sure Snickers was a lucky and loved piggie. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From warmbreath at comcast.net Sat Nov 8 00:12:07 2008 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:12:07 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] MITES References: Message-ID: The normal treatment for mites (there are many kinds) is Ivermectin which is administered by a vet in 3 shots about 10 days apart, the only option is Revolution which is supposed to be by prescription also, What kind of probs did he have with it Sandy and Manny the Boar From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sat Nov 8 11:50:24 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 08:50:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Introducing Blackberry Message-ID: <849594.89721.qm@web52310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone I took in an unwanted guinea pig named Blackberry. A teenager had gotten tired of Blackberry and was not taking care of her. Her Mom remembered that I had guinea pigs and called me up. When she said she was all black with long hair, I said I would take her. She reminds me so much of my Sabrina. Sabrina was a Abby. Blackberry has long hair. She said she just gave her a hair cut. I think she is about 2 1/2 years old. She is afraid, but I can tell she is a sweet pig. I just hope my landlord doesn't come in and see her. I will keep her in the back craft room when I am not here. Dexter is afraid of her right now. He will change his mind when she comes in heat. She may have to stay in another room. She is so beautiful though. You can see here on my tripod.com website under "My Pets". The link is below. Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Nov 8 14:35:06 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:35:06 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Welcome Blackberry Message-ID: Dawnda, Welcome to your new piggy, Blackberry. I had just given my Shadow, a black Texel, a haircut and a shampoo, when I saw her pigture and they do look alike, at least until their respective coats have regrown. She is a lovely girl and I hope that she will refrain from wheeking if the landlord comes calling. I am sure that Dexter will come to love her too. Thank you for giving her a loving home. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Nov 8 15:08:47 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:08:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Blackberry Message-ID: <572136.14770.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Blackberry is a beauty!? Congrats on the new little girl!? I'm glad you have her now. Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie "There is nothing in which the birds differ more from man than the way in which they can build and yet leave a landscape as it was before."? ~ Robert Lynd From faststats at faststatschecks.com Sat Nov 8 15:02:54 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:02:54 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] health: Earwax Message-ID: <001401c941dc$fd0df250$0200000a@MaryFran> Hi Stacy, I've found that liquid vitamin E (d-Alpha not dl-Alpha) given by mouth works for earwax. My Cookie had no wheeker and did the Hoo-hoo's too. This from birth. --Mary Fran with Gingerpuff and Miss Muffet From faststats at faststatschecks.com Sat Nov 8 15:20:22 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:20:22 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] wise and thoughtful Message-ID: <002901c941df$6d460e70$0200000a@MaryFran> Dear Penny, Your post reminded me so much of my dear Brownie. Her sense of peace in her old age was wonderful to watch and really an inspiration. In fact, I was posting to the gpdd about it one day. When I went outside to check on the girls -- Brownie and CA Cookie then, she had passed away. It was in the very same digest that I announced her passing to the Rainbow Bridge. She died a very contented pig. It must have been 8/14/06. I've just gone to my own archive and apparently didn't save that post. But I do have dozens of condolences from digesters. --Mary Fran with Puffy and Muffy From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Sat Nov 8 16:48:45 2008 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:48:45 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENTS: Best wishes from The Surrey Squeakers Message-ID: Dear Dolly Mixtures We are so sorry that you have lost another of your herd. We also send our love and best wishes to your slave as she starts her chemo. We haven't had a brilliant time recently either. Our elderly grand-slave fell off a ladder and hasn't been back to normal since. He can still get us our daily grass (phew) but looking after us whilst our slave and her husband go on holiday isn't possible any more. Perhaps, they won't be going on holiday for a while though. Our slave's husband is (or should we say was) an estate agent and the credit crunch has forced the closure of his office. A couple of weeks ago one of our herd, Espresso, only 3 years old and in great form, suddenly died for no apparent reason. Last week our slave's washing machine broke down (blocked by pieces of hay - oops), the DVD recorder kept turning itself off, and the slaves' son knocked a glass of wine over on his laptop and it wouldn't work again. Then the felt on the small bit of flat roof on the slaves' house must have cracked and rain water was pouring down the inside wall and through the ceiling of the study below. It was almost funny that our slave was saying how "lucky" they'd been because the waterfall had only landed on the carpet, and had missed the computer and the piano!!! The only good thing about the present situation is that we have gained a slave. Our slave's husband always loved us from afar, but never actually looked after us. Now that he's at home, he gives us our breakfast veggies and lets us out in the morning and has started calling us HIS pigs! We'll be able to play them off against each other and be even more pampered! Love to you all. The Surrey Squeakers _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Nov 9 05:47:04 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:47:04 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement; Welcome Blackberry Message-ID: Welcome to the GPDD Blackberry we are sure you will love your new home, your pigture is very cute. M + Fugly From juwles at bigpond.com Sun Nov 9 09:09:39 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:09:39 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Introducing Blackberry In-Reply-To: <849594.89721.qm@web52310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <849594.89721.qm@web52310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <734756B4A10448E699E7EAF42BD8BD27@JuliePC> Hi Dawnda My precious boys and me want to say a huge welcome to Blackberry! What a lovely name for a very pretty girl! I looked at your website, and you have some great photos and info there........ should be of great help to new guinea pig slaves! Kind regards Julie & her fivesome of adorable boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba, and Hamish) forever loving & missing Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie & Brandy From juwles at bigpond.com Sun Nov 9 09:12:31 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:12:31 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] CONDOLENCES: Snickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <590CFC1F284D4915888FDC3B5E8391E3@JuliePC> Dear Kate There's been a lot of piggies pass over to the Bridge lately, and I wanted to add my condolences to others you have received, on the passing of Snickers. Life will never be the same for you - but, it will be different, and can still be good because there's lots of piggies who need our love & care out there! Sadly, Julie & her fivesome of adorable boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba, and Hamish) forever loving & missing Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie & Brandy From guineapig97 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 9 17:39:28 2008 From: guineapig97 at yahoo.com (katelyn newcomb) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:39:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow bridge for Snickers Message-ID: <12931.22108.qm@web46401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> hello again Lizzy and Katie here we're sorry we didn't give you more info on Snickers well she was 1 year, her owner took her outside a lot and they we're treating her very nicely for more details contact me because i dont know what to say. From Glynis at garnay.com.au Sun Nov 9 21:57:03 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:57:03 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Blackberry Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092189@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HELLOOOOOOOOO and WELCOME xxxxxxxxxx Oh what a gorgeous piggie soooooooo cute. Thankyou for putting the link i had fun looking once more at your gorgeous piggies. Dear little Blackberry you're going to be in such a lovely forever home, where you'll be spoilt and get lots of cuddles and have lovely friends to play with. Hoping one day you'll type us a message. Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From mfug at live.co.uk Mon Nov 10 07:37:09 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:37:09 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Expresso Message-ID: Stephanie and the Surrey Squeekers we are sorry for the sudden loss of little Expresso, run free at the bridge Expresso. We are also sorry to hear about your run of bad luck, at least you are providing the piggies with amusement. Love M + Fugly _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Mon Nov 10 12:41:17 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:41:17 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences to the Surrey Squeakers Message-ID: <9522FE4D933B468387C2DBB3BE03ED7A@inspiron1150> Dear Stefanie and the Surrey Squeakers, We are so sorry to read that you have lost one of your herd, Espresso. It is always such a shock to lose a piggy like that, with no apparent warning. You have had such bad luck recently. We are especially sorry that the wonderful "grass man" has not recovered from his fall from the ladder but pleased that he is well enough to supply all the grass needs. Give him a hug and a "get well" wheek from us all. We know how hard the estate agent business is these days. Our slave tells us that there are many houses for sale in our nearest town that have had "for sale" boards outside for months, some for years. We know that you will be enjoying having an extra slave at home but we hope that he finds another job soon to pay for all those veggies. We all send our sympathy and condolences for the loss of Espresso, gone to join the other Squeakers past at the Rainbow Bridge. With love and wheeks, The Piggyfriends ( and slave Penny ). From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 10 14:57:45 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:57:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] announcement: Blackberry Message-ID: <118839.17585.qm@web80205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Welcome little Blackberry! You are a very lucky little girl to have found a home with Dawnda. I think you have a great forever home:)? Soon you will get to know Dexter as a friend also:)? You sure are a very pretty piggie indeed:)? Our slave Jean showed us your pigure? on the computer:)?We ?love to take turns on our slaves lap while she reads information about taking care of us from her friends on the digest:)She says she learns?soo much?there:) ?We love to sit oh her lap and make lovely little sounds:)? while she reads us the stories of all the pigs?and their?slaves. We just wanted to say hello to you and??give you a very very big piggie welcome from us pigsonaly,? the 14 little misfits:) ? From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Nov 10 23:50:48 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:50:48 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Expresso Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092192@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Stephanie and the gorgeous Surrey Squeakers i'm so so sorry :o( I was so sad to hear that little Expresso has gone to the bridge, RIP Expresso run free little one popcorn with your family members and enjoy the lovely fresh green grass xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))) and loads of loves from me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx please give the greiving SS's some little kisses on their noses and ears xxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com Tue Nov 11 10:43:41 2008 From: Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com (Conklin Kacee) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:43:41 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] BRIDGE: Barnee Message-ID: <9B4181F0FD23584AAC347E64493AB4DD1291D107C3@NADCWPMSGCMS08.hca.corpad.net> It's with great sadness that I report that Barnee has gone to the Bridge. Unfortunately, I had to help him on his way. He took a turn for the worse yesterday morning and was coughing and trying to breath. I took him to the vet and he said there really wasn't anything he could do for the little guy. After discussing his situation (he couldn't eat because he couldn't breathe properly), we decided not to let him go on having trouble breathing. Although I wondered all day if I had made the right decision, I realized when I got to the vet's at 5 p.m. that it was the right one. He had deteriorated since the morning and having a lot of trouble breathing. Barnee was 7 1/2 or 8. In addition to the congestive heart failure, he had some small bladder stones and a very large one which was also acting up yesterday as there was blood in his urine. He was one of two Munchees that I got from an actual rescue and I was told he was about 2 at that time. His buddy, Jake, went to the Bridge about a year and a half after I got from them from the rescue. Eventually, I put him in with Kadee and they got along fine often cuddling together in one of their hideaways. Barnee was a sweet and gentle Munchee and I will miss him terribly. Run free Barnee Boo and go find Jake and Kadee to play with along with all of the other Munchees who have gone to the Bridge. I love you little man! Kacee and the now Munchees 15 From mfug at live.co.uk Tue Nov 11 12:25:46 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:25:46 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Barney Message-ID: Kacee and the remaining Munchees we are so sorry that you had to help little Barney cross the bridge, you made the right decision and it was made with love and kindness. Run free little Barney with friends old and new My heart goes out to everyone missing a little Furbaby M _________________________________________________________________ BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day - Search Now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Nov 11 13:53:29 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:53:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Expresso Message-ID: <351266.1029.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh.... I'm so terribly sorry you lost Expresso.? I missed that post.? I hope it was a quick and painless passing and you are doing okay. I know, I know...it's terrible.? Our piggies just don't live long enough for us. Thinking of you, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie "There is nothing in which the birds differ more from man than the way in which they can build and yet leave a landscape as it was before."? ~ Robert Lynd From Glynis at garnay.com.au Tue Nov 11 17:20:52 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:20:52 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] BRIDGE: Barnee Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092195@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Darling Kacee I'm so so sorry sweetie, when I got your next email I was busy with the phone so didn't see it in time.............. >From the moment I saw it I had you in my thoughts, just knowing what hell you were putting yourself thru. But love you did the best thing for the brave boy, I'm sure he knew and loved you even more for helping him. What a brave man he was and such a fighter, I used to tell Dukey about Barnee so that he'd be encouraged xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I will miss hearing about his antics and how kind he always was to his cage mates, bless him a true little gentleman. RIP Barnee run free at the bridge little guy, you've got many family members to catch up with and look up Dukey as I know he loved to chat to you on your many virtual trips. As you were the elder statesman for the Munchees I know how much you'll be missed by all your family but NEVER forgotten, I'm sure you've passed on your wise and caring ways to many of the other Munchees bless you little man xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))) for you love and for the Munchees. Another of our beautiful piggies has travelled.......another little star shining above us all. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx -----Original Message----- From: Conklin Kacee [mailto:Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com] Sent: Wednesday, 12 November 2008 2:44 AM To: gpdd at gpdd.org Cc: 'Cindy'; Glynis Robson; 'dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com' Subject: BRIDGE: Barnee It's with great sadness that I report that Barnee has gone to the Bridge. Unfortunately, I had to help him on his way. He took a turn for the worse yesterday morning and was coughing and trying to breath. I took him to the vet and he said there really wasn't anything he could do for the little guy. After discussing his situation (he couldn't eat because he couldn't breathe properly), we decided not to let him go on having trouble breathing. Although I wondered all day if I had made the right decision, I realized when I got to the vet's at 5 p.m. that it was the right one. He had deteriorated since the morning and having a lot of trouble breathing. Barnee was 7 1/2 or 8. In addition to the congestive heart failure, he had some small bladder stones and a very large one which was also acting up yesterday as there was blood in his urine. He was one of two Munchees that I got from an actual rescue and I was told he was about 2 at that time. His buddy, Jake, went to the Bridge about a year and a half after I got from them from the rescue. Eventually, I put him in with Kadee and they got along fine often cuddling together in one of their hideaways. Barnee was a sweet and gentle Munchee and I will miss him terribly. Run free Barnee Boo and go find Jake and Kadee to play with along with all of the other Munchees who have gone to the Bridge. I love you little man! Kacee and the now Munchees 15 From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Nov 11 13:58:34 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:58:34 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Barnee Message-ID: <15F28EA2A4C44418980B8D858C083821@inspiron1150> Kacee, I am so very sorry that you had to help Barnee across the Rainbow Bridge. I know how worried you have been about his health but didn't he have a wonderful long life with the Munchees. R.I.P. Barnee reunited with Jake and Kaydee. With our utmost sympathy, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 11 21:59:13 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:59:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Question Message-ID: <10223.16042.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is it typical to be losing so many of our dear friends all at once, or have I happened in on an unusually sad season? At least it's sad for us. Our friends are having a gigantic piggie party, and I'll bet all the gpdd squeakers are meeting each other for the first time. I'm sure they've heard of each other from their devoted slaves. I really appreciate the compassion we as a group have, not only for our furkids, but for each other. Joanie From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 12 09:15:26 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:15:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: condolences for Barnee Message-ID: <470042.13280.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dearest Kacee and the 15 Munchers, Our Deepest sympathies to you for your loss of little Barnee. May he run free and enjoy all the medows have to offer over the bridge. I am sure he has found Jake and? Kadee and are all munching away:) A big paw hug to you from our 14 little misfits. deepest sympathies, Jean & Andy and the 14 misfits From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 12 09:23:05 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:23:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: sympathy for little Expresso Message-ID: <468192.47323.qm@web80208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dearest Stephanie and the Surrey Squeekers, So sorry for? you unexpected loss of little Expresso. Such a shock indeed. So sorry to hear of all your bad luck also. Sure hoping things are? turning around a bit. Seems it goes in waves like that.. then all the sudden it will stop and just turn around for the best:) Run free little Expresso and say hello to all the little furbabies that we all have on the other side of that bridge.? Big paw hugs from our 14 little misfits too. deepest sympathies, Andy & Jean and the 14 misfits ? From greig164 at btinternet.com Wed Nov 12 12:37:51 2008 From: greig164 at btinternet.com (A GREIG) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:37:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Respiratory problem Message-ID: <982081.43663.qm@web86302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Dear Guinea Pig slaves, Please cross your fingers that my guinea pig Kiaroo will be ok. I took her to the vet today because she was making some strange whimpering noises and had slightly laboured breathing. When I was at the vet she went so quiet I was really worried about her but now she's home she seems better. She has Baytril to take so I hope it will help her Anne, Maisie and Kiaroo From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 12 13:00:59 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:00:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Musings Message-ID: <625674.19806.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Often I ponder why we humans are capable of living for so long while our?fur, feather, scaly and fin?friends often have such short lives. When I look back I see each and every one of them (and they are many) as a teacher. They are so pure and untainted?that they can show us things our human counterparts simply couldn't. I've needed so many teachers over my fifty-some years; each animal friend came for a season and taught me in a unique way, and I am eternally grateful to every one of them for giving of themselves so freely and lovingly. I'm looking forward to seeing their little faces again. And now I'm learning from all of the gpdd piggie pals and their students/slaves. I'm reading stories of courage, perseverence, and patience. I'm sure there are many more lessons to be learned as we read our Digest and listen to what our piggies are telling us. Joanie From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Wed Nov 12 20:02:53 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:02:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] BRIDGE: Barnee Message-ID: <428252.42244.qm@web52307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I was so sorry to hear that Barnee needed help crossing the bridge. He was so lucky to live so long for a guinea pig though. I send my deepest condolences. It is always hard to have to put a friend to sleep. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Wed Nov 12 20:20:05 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:20:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Question Message-ID: <591868.20735.qm@web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have found when you have 8 to 15 guinea pigs like many of us on the gpdd has had or have, that you do seem to loose 2 or more in 6 months to a year. When they are doing very well to live to see 5-years old, you do have to deal with many deaths. I have found that many times when two pigs live together that one dies and the other soon follows. Sometimes I wonder whether it is because of depression, because they are both elderly, or maybe sometimes because they are litter mates with the same genes. Many older married couples die in a close time frame as well. Johnny Cash only lasted 3 months with his wife June. We hear of many deaths on the gpdd digest because we are so sad when we loose one of our babies. We know that people here will fully understand how bad we are feeling. Therefore, we always tell people here when one of our own crosses the bridge. We, also, tell the joys of new additions to the family. I love my new Blackberry! I guess we should tell more about the every day joys of having guinea pigs in addition to all the deaths and sicknesses. Leah does a good job of telling the joys of having here two piggies. More of us should follow her lead. Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Nov 12 18:52:05 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:52:05 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Kiaroo Message-ID: <503CF84E291A404BB1E9D7B0715A248C@inspiron1150> Anne, We all wish the very best to little Kiaroo. Paws crossed, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From gapeachge at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 11:28:37 2008 From: gapeachge at yahoo.com (Glenda English) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:28:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge:Barnee, Expresso and others References: Message-ID: <485640.95341.qm@web58003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> It's so sad to hear about all of the little piggies crossing the rainbow bridge. Condolences going out for Barnee, Expresso and all of the others. They tend to leave us much too soon, and I hope they're all playing together happily, hopping and popcorning in between nibbling sweet green hay and grass. We're still grieving over Callie who crossed over in September, but Cookie and Ruby are doing great. Ruby is almost 3 months old now, and Cookie will be 9 mos. on Friday. They're still in separate cages, but we hope within a month or so, they can room together. Ruby is still so little, but she has grown and eats quite heartily. Cookie looks so huge next to her and is probably close to 2 pounds. She seems slim sometimes, and then other times, she's such a "chunk". She has really matured looks-wise since Callie's been gone. She's not the baby anymore. Our girls seem to be missing each other more when they have to get back in their cages after floor and/or lap time. There's been lots of wheeking and purring going on for each other and for us. They have good appetites and both love their hay, food, parsley, romaine, cantaloupe, carrot, honey dew and apples. Right now, they're on a Granny Smith kick. No other variety will do. Ruby has several nicknames now, like Nibbles, Zoom Zoom, and Spaz. She's very talkative and sometimes downright noisy, but very funny to watch. She's energetic and this causes Cookie to act the same way. It's fun to see Cookie "running wild" on the floor or around her cage when Ruby's nearby. Anyway, better get back to work. My heart aches for all of the piggies who have crossed over. Hugs to all piggies and their slaves from us: Glenda, Meghan, Cookie, Ruby and (Callie) ________________________________ From cuttlefisharts at comcast.net Thu Nov 13 13:16:33 2008 From: cuttlefisharts at comcast.net (Cuttlefish Arts) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:16:33 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] BRIDGE: Angela In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Angela passed away in the night sometime Wednesday morning. She was the gp that I was asking about recently, because we were sure she was much older than we or the shelter thought; she had dropped off drastically in the last week. I suspect she was 7 or so. We know we did our best to make her life comfortable and she was a happy girl even with her poor health. She will be missed by her Peruvian housemate Ravi, who spent much of his time looking after her and talking to her. He understands that she is gone, and is sad, but seems to be bouncing back a bit. We will likely find another housemate for him soon from our excellent shelter, Cavy Care, Inc. A little plug; Cavy Care, in Aurora, CO has recently rescued 50- 150 gps from an overwhelmed breeder. They can use help, donations, and adopters! http://www.cavycareinc.org/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Nov 13 13:58:53 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:58:53 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20081113.105853.13385.2@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Kacee- I'm so sorry to hear about Barnee. What a long & happy life he had with you though. He was very lucky! My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Improve your health with the latest fitness products and tips. Click now for free info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nD5H15jqjkDikIG5wFllmWEt760rUJVroNRDQn1zTg4Tx10/ From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 13 16:17:09 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:17:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Little Alaina Message-ID: <970926.38316.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, Just need some prayers for my little Alaina.? We discovered a lump on the underneath of her neck on the right side. Its a hard lump. We are ?going to drs tomorrow to have it checked out. She is still eating just fine and drinking just fine. Doesnt seem to bother her in the least. She was born on 7-24-08. She has always been a very big eater and is large for her size. Her brother? is normal size. Her mom is one we rescused from a horrible breeder.? He was getting out of the buiness and? wanted to get rid of? the guineas he had.They used Alaina's mom to breed babies to sell for snake food. Horrible! the breeder (that is what he called himself)? only fed the? guineas rabbit food? and head lettuce. So I know that Alaina and her brother didnt get the best of care while they were growing in their mom. We rescued their mom (Amanda) a week before she gave birth.? She delieved three babies, but only Alaina and her brother (Biff) lived. The other one was stillborn(we named him? "little bit"?? We love little Alaina dearly and are praying this lump isnt anything bad. We will keep you all informed of her outcome. very worried,? Andy & Jean and our 14 misfits From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Nov 14 08:55:32 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:55:32 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Kiaroo Message-ID: Hi Anne, Fugly and me are sending loads of love and wheeks to little Kiaroo. Get well soon Kiaroo xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From birdlonglegs at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 09:26:14 2008 From: birdlonglegs at yahoo.com (Birdie Horn) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:26:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC pet of the day Message-ID: <342409.13211.qm@web50510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi All. Check out http://petoftheday.com/?for Friday. the 14th. Cute little guinea pig named Squeakers. Awwwhhh. Birdie From pals4pets at cheerful.com Fri Nov 14 10:39:54 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:39:54 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Belated condolences for Snickers Message-ID: <20081114153954.6CDCDBE4078@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> We are really behind with our emails once again, but just wanted to express our sincere condolences to Katie and Lizzy on the departure for The Rainbow Bridge of their dear Snickers. We have lost many piggies over the years, but would have to say we have never really known why most of them have slipped away - without an excellent piggie vet or rodentologist to make the diagnosis, it really is anybody's guess. As someone on here once said, sometimes it is just "their time to go", as is it with humans or other animals. We know how much it hurts when they leave, especially when it is so sudden and when maybe we feel we have missed something that could have kept them here. Please find some comfort in the fact that gpdd-ers all over the world understand how you are feeling, and are remembering you in their thoughts and prayers. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From pals4pets at cheerful.com Fri Nov 14 11:56:04 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:56:04 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Belated condolences for Barnee Message-ID: <20081114165604.4FB101CE8FB@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Kacee We were so sorry to hear of the departure to The Rainbow Bridge of your beloved SCAMP, Barnee. It is a credit to you that he reached such a Grand Old Age, especially after he'd had a rough start in life and ended up in a rescue, and also that you were brave enough to make that Right Decision when the time came that he needed a helping hand to The Bridge. He sounds like a wonderful and brave little fellow, and we are sure he knew how very dearly he was loved. As you say, he is now reunited with his pals Jake and Kadee and all the other Munchees at The Bridge, plus he is free from discomfort and young again! It is never easy to lose a piggie, but we hope that the kind thoughts and prayers from members of the gpdd community all over the world will bring you some comfort at this difficult time. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Nov 14 12:18:04 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:18:04 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Angela Message-ID: We are sorry for you and Ravi, you must both be missing Angela, remember she had a happy life with you and sounds like quiet the little SCAMP. Run free at the bridge with all your new friends Angela. Love M + Fugly _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Nov 14 12:20:06 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:20:06 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Alaina Message-ID: We are sending love, wheeks and healing thoughts for Alaina, we have fingers and paws crossed that her lump turns out to be an absess and nothing serious to worry about. We also send you a big hug and piggy kisses as we know how much you will be worrying about your little girl. Keep us updated Love M + Fugly _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From pals4pets at cheerful.com Fri Nov 14 13:02:12 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:02:12 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Little Alaina's lump Message-ID: <20081114180212.2FACF1059C@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> We are praying that Alaina's lump turns out to be nothing serious. Several of the Dolly Mixtures have had worrying lumps and bumps, not all serious. Our dear Scarecrow once had one on her neck which was almost the size of her head, but it was just an abscess, and once it had burst we had to flush it out regularly, and eventually it healed completely. So here's hoping - we remember looking it up in books and on the Net at the time, and reading that such abscesses on the neck were fairly common. Hugs and wheeks Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Nov 14 14:30:05 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:30:05 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Question Message-ID: <22A8BCA92E484C938A7AC8C767EA91FA@inspiron1150> Joanie, There are always sad times when many piggies depart for the Rainbow Bridge in a short space of time. We do have quite a lot of members and many of those, myself included, have a lot of piggies so losing them is an occupational hazard. I usually have between 20 and 30 piggies in my little sanctuary, currently 25, so, statistically, there are going to be many sad days, especially when I have brothers and sisters all growing old together. Also, many of us like to share our piggies' stories with the rest of our group, who all understand what we are going through. You may not have come across any of these yet but we do have "Virtual" events in which our little ones pigticipate in group fun. Since I have been a member we have had the PigOlympigs, at Lake Elsinore, an exciting trip to Australia, a wonderful Royal Wedding, preceded by a boars' night in Paris and a camping trip to celebrate Lady Bug's birthday, held in my garden. All via the virtual airline "PigAir", which travels everywhere. We can all write a story from our piggies' point of view and through these we have come to know each other's piggies very well so it is only natural to pass on news of these little ones, even the very sad news that comes to us all. You might like to delve in the GPDD Archives to read some of these stories. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Nov 14 14:51:21 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:51:21 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Alaina Message-ID: <9C469499427743B08EB57586B35C8620@inspiron1150> Andy and Jean, We are sending good wishes your way for little Alaina. That's a very common place for an abscess to form. My Frodo had one in that position a while ago. It took a while for it to clear up but he was quite unconcerned about the whole procedure and never stopped munching. Good luck. Alaina deserves it after her rotten start in life. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Nov 14 14:40:00 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:40:00 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE Condolences for Angela Message-ID: <2829D338CC9747E88A23D2A5FBB4CD0B@inspiron1150> I was so sorry to read that Angela has departed for the Rainbow Bridge. You must be left with so many memories of her very long life. When any of my piggies reach that age, I treat every day as a bonus. I hope that Ravi will soon have a new friend to ease his grief at the loss of Angela. I looked at the lovely Cavy Care website. Colorado is a bit too far from England but I hope that all those piggies find a wonderful new home. With deepest sympathy, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 14 18:21:01 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:21:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Alaina Message-ID: <308791.37335.qm@web80202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, Thank you for you prayers and good wishes for little Alaina. I took her to Dr today. She had an abscess on her neck. The Dr lanced it and drained it?and flushed it out. sent us home with meloxicam for the pain and swelling. and gave us sulfamethoxazole to keep infection at bay and some white cream to put on it too.She was a very brave?girl indeed while they did all this to her. ? She goes back next sat for a check up on it.? I may have to put her in a separate cage till the wound heals up as her cage mate Adaline keeps?? wanting to sniff the spot where they drained it, and that seems to annoy little? Alaina alot. Dr. said she couldn't see any open wounds on the outside of the abscess. As we were thinking maybe one ?of her cage mates bite her?? so still not sure how she got this abscess. She lives with her mom Amanda and a ?younger guinea pig gal named Adaline.? Little Alaina is such a sweet sweet pig. She just loves to sit and cuddle. which is? wonderful:)? seems all our pigs love to cuddle.?Remember me telling you all that little Alaina is large for her age.. well she weighed in today at 826 grams:)? she is a very sturdy little gal indeed:) Now?I must go and give some? extra cuddles and hugs? to little Alaina:) Jean & Andy and the misfits 14 ? From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 18:48:29 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:48:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Angela Message-ID: <160943.45419.qm@web52310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I was sorry to hear of Angela's passing. It is always hard to loose a little one to us and to their cage mates. I am glad she had a good and happy home before she left. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From Algernon07 at aol.com Fri Nov 14 20:40:19 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:40:19 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Bridge: Espresso & Barnee Message-ID: We are always saddened when one of our little friends leaves for the Bridge and 2 of the little sweeties have gone on. I am so sorry for both of you. And Kacee, while I know you're grieving the loss of Barnee, I think you know you made the best possible decision to help him to the Bridge. Relieving him from such breathing difficulty was truly an act of love. My condolences to all of you, Alge and the solemn Jolly Rodent Piggy Pirates ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/do wnload.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) From angiebeena at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 21:27:26 2008 From: angiebeena at yahoo.com (Jen) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:27:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] South Park - Pandemic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <542116.33088.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There seems to have been an awful large amount of passings lately and I thought this might cheer people up. Even if you don't like South Park, I think everyone on the GPDD needs to watch the episodes "Pandemic" and "Pandemic 2: The Startling". You can watch them when they are up at http://www.southparkstudios.com/ or you can find them elsewhere online. I'm a lurker and haven't been reading every digest lately so if it's been posted already, sorry, but these are too good to miss! -Jen From faststats at faststatschecks.com Sat Nov 15 13:40:00 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:40:00 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Piggy Pirates of the Carribean Message-ID: <001d01c94751$910fe1b0$0200000a@MaryFran> Wheeks to all, Miss Muffet and Gingerpuff would like to know when Captain Jack and his crew will be sailing ? Is the hurricane season over. They say Aaargh !!! --Mary Fran From ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 14:21:50 2008 From: ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com (Stacy Harvey) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:21:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] (Health) Re: Alaina Message-ID: <164114.33407.qm@web53007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Jean. ? We're glad to hear that Alaina's lump was "only" an abscess (a lump is alarming, no matter what it is.) My little Willie got a huge one and it seemed to spring up overnight--we had to lance it twice before the doctor decided to do surgery to remove the capsule. She was afraid it might come back otherwise. ? Abscesses can form from bites, but the ones under the neck are more commonly caused from a sharp piece of hay scratching/piercing the inside of the mouth causing an open wound. Since the roots of the teeth are open, the bacteria tend to travel toward the chin and an abscess forms. Most often, the bacteria is Streptococcus. It helps to have the abscess cultured, as sometimes it is an aerobic bacteria that is harder to get rid of. ? We'll keep Alaina in our thoughts and send healing wheeks her way. ? -Stacy and the Squee Squad From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Sat Nov 15 16:21:24 2008 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:21:24 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS: Blinkz web site problems Message-ID: I know that several gpdd members have a blinkz web site and I was wondering if they are experiencing the same problem as me. In fact, it was someone on the digest who told me about the blinkz sites in the first place. My site (www.squeakers17.blinkz.com) has not been working for over a week now and I am a little concerned. I get a "timed out" message, and I doubt their suggestion that the site is overly busy! This happened a few months ago too, but it didn't last as long as this. I suppose with a free web site I should expect a few troubles, but I would like to know if it's just me, or all blinkz sites, before I do something about it. A couple of weeks ago Penny and the Piggyfriends mentioned my site on the digest and the Squeakers went completely over the top with excitement when the site had nearly 100 hits in one day! I think the Squeakers, as celebrities, were on the phone to book their feature in "Hello" magazine. I would be very grateful if anyone out there with a blinkz site could tell me if theirs is working or not. Thank you. Stefanie and The Surrey Squeakers _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From kaplans at peoplepc.com Sun Nov 16 00:36:57 2008 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:36:57 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] GPDD [care] food Message-ID: <002201c947ad$6baacdc0$bf18f304@stephensucks> Hi Everyone, Been a long time since I last wrote. I've been reading the posts though. : ) I do have a question about food. I am trying to give my piggies healthier fresh foods on my budget. SO my question is could you give me a list of the fresh greens that you give your fur babies and which ones they like best? I know of the normal lettuce and cilantro and stuff but I don't know of the other ones. Any help? My deepest condolences to all who have lost fur babies and those that have sick ones. Sarah and the piggy gang : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) From luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de Sun Nov 16 08:17:08 2008 From: luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de (luitad at zedat.fu-berlin.de) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:17:08 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Abscesses Message-ID: <1320.77.185.105.149.1226841428.webmail@portal.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Hello all, I was very relieved to hear that Alaina's lump was just an abscess. Of course, nothing is "just" with our piggies, but at least this is something we are familiar with and know how to take care of. I just wanted to say that it's important to keep the wound open and flushed, allowing it to heal from the inside out. When it closes too quickly, then another abscess can form, because the nasties inside haven't had a chance to drain out. I've had several piggies with abscesses, with no complications, thank goodness. One nice note: There's a lovely park in Los Angeles where people can have trees planted as memorials for special family members. Just yesterday my sister had a red maple planted in memory of "Ernie, the guinea pig", as he's now listed in their Memory Book. Luita Bert and Cinja, still missing Ernie From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Nov 16 11:04:50 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:04:50 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE Food Message-ID: <58965D2906AC4669BFA07B520B3AE1EE@inspiron1150> Hello Sarah, Good to hear from you again. My Piggyfriends have a vast array of fresh greenstuff. Their absolute favourite, of course, is fresh grass, free and plentiful for most of the year here in England. My own garden is totally organic and when they have eaten all of my lawn, I have a few places, where grass can be cut, that I know are not treated in any way that they can munch until my lawn has recovered. They much prefer foraged weeds to any shop bought greens. Number one weed is Smooth Sow Thistle ( also called Milk Thistle ), which grows in abundance in spring and summer but is, sadly, now finished for the year. They love chickweed, which will carry on growing until we get a hard frost, dandelions and groundsel. Another favourite is plantain leaf ( not the thing that looks like a banana but a weed that grows a rosette of leaves.) They prefer the large leaved variety to the narrow leaved. Its botanical name is plantago major. There is always a stampede of tiny feet when I bring home the weed bag. Favourite traditional greens for my herd are cauliflower leaves. They also like the veg that I buy as spring cabbage, preferring the dark outer leaves to the centre, which I can eat. I give them broccoli leaves from the garden but most prefer the florets themselves. Occasionally they get kale, usually in the winter then everything else is frozen in the ground. Some will eat some turnip tops ( the leafy bit ) and most of them like beetroot leaves, which turn their urine bright red. Quite scary the first time that you encounter this. Everypig loves carrot tops and Gulliver says don't forget the parsley. Anyone thinking of foraging for weeds, please make sure that you can correctly identify them and that they are from a safe area that has not been treated with chemicals or frequented by dogs........ .............and yes, I do realise that many people do not live in the country, with immediate access to these piggy delicacies but this abundance of free food means that I can afford to give a home to an extra Piggyfriend or two. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sun Nov 16 17:43:05 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:43:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS: Blinkz web site problems Message-ID: <904309.48993.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Stefanie I could not get into your site. I tried to get into my Blinkz site to put a picture of Blackberry on it and I could not get in either. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From Algernon07 at aol.com Sun Nov 16 17:06:57 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:06:57 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Blinz web sites Message-ID: > Stefanie, > I have wanted to post for exactly the same reason. The message I'm getting is that no such site can be located. I've even tried going from my own site to plain ole "blinkz.com" and I get the same message. I wonder if its been done away with. I also wonder who we might contact for into. Alge ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Nov 16 21:23:38 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:23:38 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Espresso Message-ID: <4920D5AA.1020602@geeksnet.com> Stefanie and The Surrey Squeakers, please accept our condolences on Espresso's passing. We are so very sorry that he (she?) went to the Bridge despite having no symptoms of anything being wrong. We can only imagine how difficult it is to have no warning of an impending trip to the Bridge, and our hearts go out to you. Although Espresso was only three, the important thing is quality of life, and we know he had that many times over. What a lucky piggie to find your family and to be so loved. We are also sorry that so many difficult things are happening all at once. We hope your husband will be able to return to work soon and that your father will recover from his fall from the ladder. Best wishes. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Nov 16 21:34:08 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:34:08 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Barnee In-Reply-To: <9B4181F0FD23584AAC347E64493AB4DD1291D107C3@NADCWPMSGCMS08.hca.corpad.net> References: <9B4181F0FD23584AAC347E64493AB4DD1291D107C3@NADCWPMSGCMS08.hca.corpad.net> Message-ID: <4920D820.5050107@geeksnet.com> Kacee and the Munchees 15, we had so hoped that Barnee's treatment for his congestive heart failure would help him bounce back to health, and we are so very saddened that he has gone to the Bridge. Having had to help Sunshine to the Bridge last December, we understand what a hard decision it is. We hope you will be comforted in knowing that you did the right thing for Barnee, since he was having more and more difficulty breathing. You made a decision with his best interests in mind, and we have no doubt that he is thanking you from the other side. Please know, too, that he was so lucky you rescued him and gave him such good care that he was able to live to be 7 1/2 or 8 -- what a wonderful lifespan, although of course we are never ready to say goodbye. How sweet that he got along so well with his buddy, Jake, and then with Kadee. We have no doubt that they are all now reunited at the Bridge, along with the other Munchees who are there. Please accept our condolences on his passing. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From aliciavanmaanen at hotmail.com Sun Nov 16 22:14:50 2008 From: aliciavanmaanen at hotmail.com (Alicia VanMaanen) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:14:50 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Secret Santa Letters emailed Message-ID: Hey Everyone, I have finally emailed everyone their secret santa matches for the Holiday secret santa gift exchange or card exchange. If you didn't get your email with your match and signed up let me know ASAP. Also, try to mail your gifts out by the first part of December so everyone gets them by Christmas. Let me know when you mail your gift out to your secret santa so I can keep track of it again this year. Also, let me know when your piggies get a package too. thanks and have fun picking out gifts for your friends piggies Alicia with many wheeks from Sailor Willie and Squeakers _________________________________________________________________ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008 From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 16 23:23:47 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:23:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY PIGGIES: Hershey Licked My Toe Message-ID: <462329.28546.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> While in our pig pen, Hersh licked my toe the other day, and, when I wear short sleeves (a rareity for me this time of year in Sunny California),she frequently nuzzles and licks my hands and arms and tickles my nose. I know piggies don't normally groom each other, but I'm not that salty, honest!?Does anyone else have any experience with a licky pig? It sure is tickly with all those cute little whiskers, and, needless to say, I love it! We sniffed noses the other day, too. I think I'm being elevated to honorary piggiehood. Could it be true? Great Wheeks! Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 16 23:39:16 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:39:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: The Only Pig Message-ID: <432024.9343.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I want to thank you all for not criticizing me for having an only pig. I realize that's not a natural situation for a piggie, and thought I owe you an explanation in case you're wondering about it. I have hypomanic bipolar disorder, which means, without medication, I am depressed and depressed-er. Unfortunately, the medication slows me down and takes away some of my energy, which means it's very difficult to clean Hershey's cage when needed, which plays out to be every third day. So far we've managed quite well but an extra piggie would mean a whole lot more urine and the difficulties that entails, and I couldn't do right by the hypothetical twosome. Fortunately, I spend a lot of time at home, and we enjoy each other very much. I never thought I'd enjoy being a slave, but I do! It gives me great joy to bring her happiness and, you know, I think she enjoys charming me. We talk in piggie language, which I'm learning under her tutelage. I'm thinking of installing a bird mirror and maybe a stuffed piggie into her cage for her to cuddle with. Any other suggestions? ? Oinkingly, Joanie ? From KSkosich at msn.com Mon Nov 17 10:40:55 2008 From: KSkosich at msn.com (J D) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: are almonds ok? Message-ID: Does anyone know if it is ok to give almonds (shelled and unseasoned) to guinea pigs? Pookah-Darryl (whom we call "The Pookaderro," after the former Trocadero Ballroom of Denver) instantly knows when I am sneaking almonds and yells his head off for one. I have given him a few and he doesn't seem to have any problem breaking them up and devouring them. Thanks, Kathy S From calliope at geeksnet.com Mon Nov 17 11:30:14 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:30:14 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Angela Message-ID: <49219C16.5040609@geeksnet.com> It was with much sadness that we read of Angela's passing. We remember when you asked about her age, thinking that she must be at least 7 since she was having trouble moving around and keeping her weight up. It does sound as though she was a SCAMPS piggie, and it is certainly a tribute to your care that she thrived in her years with you. It was so touching to read in your earlier message of how you were giving her Critical Care and were dedicated to keeping her in the best health possible. She was a lucky girl to be so loved. How sweet to hear that her housemate Ravi was so devoted to her, too. We hope he will be all right; it is good to hear that you will adopt another friend for him, although of course Angela will always occupy a special place in his heart, and yours. Please accept our condolences on her passing. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com Mon Nov 17 12:45:30 2008 From: Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com (Conklin Kacee) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:45:30 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Urgent. Munchees need homes Message-ID: <9B4181F0FD23584AAC347E64493AB4DD1295B11286@NADCWPMSGCMS08.hca.corpad.net> My landlord has come down on me and I need to find homes for some of my guinea pigs. Is there anyone in the Nashville area that can make room for some of them? I don't have to tell you how this is killing me! Kacee From magbfouts at gmail.com Mon Nov 17 12:21:43 2008 From: magbfouts at gmail.com (Maren Fouts) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:21:43 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY PIGGIES: Hershey Licked My Toe Message-ID: Joanie, Firstly, I have to say congratulations! A piggy that licks is a wonderful thing! Not all of them do it, but out of the 15+ that have come through my home (I foster some and have 2 of my own) I have had 4 lickers. All owned me. Rosie, who just passed away a little over a year ago, was the most generous with her kisses. She shared a special bond with my husband that I have shared with others on the digest. He would recline in his chair with her on his chest and if she wasn't laying down, utterly comfy, she would reach her head up to his lips, he would pucker up, and she licked his upper lip. It had to be the sweetest thing I ever saw. I've also had them feel the need to contort themselves in every possible way to reach a hand that was petting them just to give a few kisses. I think that's how they say "Thank you" and "I love you". When we visit my father and the pigs come along, they take over the guest bathroom as we don't have a cage that is practical to transport and big enough for them to live in comfortably for a few days. So I open up their travel cage and they have free run of the bathroom. When my husband woud get out of the shower Sam, my very first piggy, would come over and lick the water off his toes. So I really think it has nothing to do with salt. Of course, it might from time to time. I don't know. As for the only pig issue, plenty of people have only pigs. Sam was an only pig for a time and was pretty happy with it while I was living with a roommate and in college. We were home most of the time he was awake. When I moved to my new job and got married, we weren't home nearly as much and he fell into a depression so we adopted Rosie. He was a different piggy after that! Some pigs just can't stand other pigs either and are just meant to live in cages by themselves. They are very happy with this arrangement. Of course, I always advocate having a buddy for your piggy if you think your piggy wants one but, if you're home plenty and your piggy isn't depressed an lonely, an only pig is fine. My pigs have really helped me keep depression at bay and you may have found that Hershey does that for you as well. Maybe you would consider getting another one if this is the case or if you ever have a change in medicines. Just a thought! By no means a requirement! Piggy kisses! Maren, Charlie, Kaylee, and Daisy From pals4pets at cheerful.com Mon Nov 17 12:27:36 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:27:36 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Angela Message-ID: <20081117172736.A74571158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> We just wanted to add our own condolences on the departure of your dear SCAMP Angela for the Rainbow Bridge. It is never easy to lose a pig; when they are very young, you just feel they have been cheated of so much popcorning in the sunshine and munching salad and playing with other piggies. When they are very old, you just feel that they are so much part of your life that you cannot possibly go on without them - you have had all that extra time to become devoted to them. We feel it is always a credit to a slave when their piggie becomes eligible for SCAMP membership, and we know Angela received excellent care from you in her old age, and must certainly have known how dearly she was loved. May you find some comfort in the fact that gpdd-ers all over the globe understand and share your sense of loss, and that Angela is now in an even better place. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Nov 17 13:18:42 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:18:42 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- licking piggies! Message-ID: <20081117.101842.15481.3@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Joanie- My piggie Mimi licks me & my husband Ron all the time. It just seems to be a sign of affection from her, but that's just a theory. I honestly don't know why she does it. She's a very cuddly affectionate piggie. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click to find high quality stock photos and images. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1aBm3nXN2OGvsH0YsESRLW7OHVN035UEO2R7DJcw56npMGq/ From angela at lunaclick.net Mon Nov 17 19:52:35 2008 From: angela at lunaclick.net (Angela Taylor) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:52:35 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY PIGGIES: Hershey Licked My Toe References: <462329.28546.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5B494DF9D4174CD2A0203CA8404E373E@SEAGOAT> How funny, Jaime...our Mimi is a licker as well. :) Joanie, I'm not sure why they do it -- what it means, if anything, or what they get out of it -- but it sure is cute! Mimi likes to lick my fingers whenever they're close enough, but she almost never licks her "papa," my boyfriend Peter (although she's a total Daddy's Girl otherwise). I try to make sure my hands are clean of anything that might harm them when it's cuddle time, but I'm particularly mindful when I'm handling Mimi. On the other hand, Isis has never licked at all, but she does "say hello" by rubbing her nose on just about anything she comes in contact with. I was cuddling Mimi the other day and got the shock of my life when she reached up and licked my neck just above my shirt collar. Talk about tickle!! Angela, Peter, and the Guinea Goddesses (Isis and Artemis, aka Mimi) From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 17 17:55:45 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: silly piggies Message-ID: <532044.61901.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Joanie, ? I just had to laugh when i read? about how your little piggie loves to lick you:) we have a piggie named Amanda, she is a rescue piggie that gave birth to our little Alaina and our sweet Biff her brother.? anyway on with my story.. (I am long winded I am told by?Andy) our sweet little Amanda loves to sit up close to Andys neck and cuddle?and then get even closer by going up to his fuzzy ears and? she loves to look in his ears and also sniff? them and? then she lick his ears!!! it is the funniest thing ever!!!!?It looks like she is trying to put her whole face in his ear!?just had to share our story of our silly little Amanda.:)? Still giggling:) Jean and our misfits 14 ? From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 17 19:56:58 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Secret Santa Message-ID: <32895.77222.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hershey and I'd like to be included in the gift/card exchange. My little piggie has lots of good ideas for gifts. ? Joanie From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Nov 17 23:25:51 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:25:51 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Angela Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9230921B3@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> I'm so very very sorry to hear about little Angela :o( As i'm behind on my gpdd, i was about to send you a get well wheeeek for her...... RIP Angela run free little girl at the bridge, have fun popcorning and munching away on the lovely green grass and dandelions, i'm sure the other piggies from gpdd were their with open paws to greet you xxxxxxxxxx ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))) and loves from me to you all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Mon Nov 17 23:27:31 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:27:31 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Alaina Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9230921B4@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Sending your sweet little girl Alaina heaps of healing wheeeeeeeeeeeks from me xxxxxxxxxxxxxx and some gentle nose rubs and kisses on her ears as well xxxxxxxxxxxxx Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From zoo357 at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 18 07:13:43 2008 From: zoo357 at sbcglobal.net (zoo357 at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:13:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RESCUE: 70+ Pigs from Owner in Indiana Message-ID: <699925.90558.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi all. I lurk and don't post often. Usually too busy with running The Critter Corral. we are presently working with EARPS. we were contacted by an owner who started with 2 guinea pigs and ended up with 70+ due to mis-sexing. So far between our 2 rescues we have taken in at least 60 of the pigs. Needless to say many of the females are pregnant and many are suffering from URI's. We will be in need of homes for these piggies in the near future and any donations for either of our rescues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much! ? Rose Zamarocy director of The Critter Corral www Rose ? From mfug at live.co.uk Tue Nov 18 12:20:51 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:20:51 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc; Kacee rehoming Message-ID: Kacee we are so sorry your landlord is forcing you to rehome your beloved babies and yes we all know how deverstating that must be. Sadly we are the other side of the pond so not much help to you at all. I hope someone from nearby can take them in and you can still visit. My heart goes out to you M _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From mfug at live.co.uk Tue Nov 18 12:22:03 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:22:03 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] silly; Licking Message-ID: Fugly is a licky pig he loves to lick my hands when I stroke him, and if I am sitting on the floor bare foot he will lick my toes ( I am not so keen on that, I hate feet) M _________________________________________________________________ Win ?1000 John Lewis shopping sprees with BigSnapSearch.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ From juwles at bigpond.com Tue Nov 18 19:53:00 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:53:00 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY PIGGIES: Hershey Licked My Toe In-Reply-To: <462329.28546.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <462329.28546.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joanie I've had that experience with a couple of my piggies......... but as well as a lick on the finger or hand, I actually get real life piggy kisses on the lips! Both Donald and Wheeky are very smoochy boys at times (that's when I start calling them by their middle names (Julio Iglesias)! Donald is very gentle, but I have to control Wheeky, he gets a bit excited and starts a little teeth nipping into the lips, although still gentle, but I'm very wary of him getting too amorous! There's nothing nicer than a piggy kiss! Cheers Julie & her precious boys Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie, Brandy forever in my heart & soul From juwles at bigpond.com Tue Nov 18 20:01:30 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:01:30 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: The Only Pig In-Reply-To: <432024.9343.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <432024.9343.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <018DD368787248D1949B8234049F76B6@JuliePC> Hi again Joanie I don't think Hershey would mind being an only pig, as long as she has lots of contact & cuddles from her slave. My Wheeky is a bit of a bully, so I have to keep him separate from the other boys. He can hear them, and through the day when they have their floor time, he can see the others - but I keep him behind bars cause he gets into fights! He's not suffering for not having a mate...... I'm his bestest mate, and he shows me in no uncertain terms how much he loves me. At times, when I put him in his piggy basket on the table whilst I read or watch TV, next moment there's a flying pig (yes..... they do fly) and he leaps from the bed straight onto my shoulder, all four feet off the ground. I've got to be quick to catch him, or he'd keep flying! You and Hersey will be great mates and her being on her own will help with you and she building a very strong and loving bond. Oinks Julie and her precious boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba) Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart and soul From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Nov 18 23:29:52 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:29:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Another GPDD calendar? Message-ID: <197958.51715.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Are we going to put our pigtures together for another calendar as we did last year!? I enjoyed seeing everyone's piggies so much! Here's what I'm talking about: http://picasaweb.google.com/pandameisje/GPDDCalendar Thanks! Joanne and Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, and Sweetie Life is simple:? eat, sleep, adopt a pet! From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 19 06:49:06 2008 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:49:06 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE - Guinea Pigs R Us In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all You may remember one of the group asking us to vote each day for Guinea Pigs R Us, to help them gain funds for their shelter (it's free to vote). They are 15th overall in the Canadian category, so please help them to gain the funds they so desperately by voting for them. Here is the info again: Visit: www.theanimalrescuesite.com and click on the white box that says '$100,000 shelter and challenge, vote today' When voting, enter Guinea Pigs R Us as the shelter info (must be exact spelling/capitlization), click 'CAN' and 'ON', and then click 'vote'. The Guinea Pig R Us site: http://www.guineapigsrusrescue.com/ Carole From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 19 14:29:47 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:29:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: How much greens? Message-ID: <448487.87173.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've never had the opportunity to ask how much greens a seven month old piggie should receive in the course of the day. Hershey keeps telling me it should be?unlimited, but, as a devoted slave, I must keep her best interests in mind. I feed her little bits all day long, and I do mean little. But how much should it total up to, ideally? Joanie From stefanieduffy at hotmail.com Wed Nov 19 17:55:01 2008 From: stefanieduffy at hotmail.com (Stefanie Duffy) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:55:01 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS: Blinkz site returns!! Message-ID: Thank you to everyone who sent me a message about their blinkz websites. It seems we all had the same problem, but I just tried mine again this evening and it's working!! I hope yours are too. My site disappeared for a couple of days once before, but this time it was for over two weeks and I feared that blinkz had gone out of business. Stefanie and 18 relieved Surrey Squeakers (www.squeakers17.blinkz.com) _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ From ann_sadoian at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 20 08:20:46 2008 From: ann_sadoian at sbcglobal.net (Ann Sadoian) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:20:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: chronic cystitis Message-ID: <44755.43058.qm@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone-- ???? I have been reading the GPDD daily since summer 2005, and this is the first time I've posted. We got our first computer in winter 2005, and I guess I've been slow to get into all the Internet has to offer. I have posted personally to a number of you (Leah, Jaime, Cindy, Alge, Joanne, among others) at times--you may remember me, especially Leah, as you were a big help to me two years ago when Dart first started having problems with crying when she pee's. ???? Because Dart seems so unwell this time, I felt I had to consult with all you piggy people in the hopes that someone has some advice that will help poor Dart. She has suffered with what the vets have diagnosed as cystitis off-and-on for two years now. Until last month, she never bled when she pee'd, but did cry. She has been treated with metacam & different antibiotics, and I have tried shilintong and potassium citrate. Nothing seems to take it away altogether, although something unusual happens in the summer--for the past two summers, she has been fine--no crying for months until September rolls around. My best guess is that she was drinking more water in the summer. ???? Last month, for the first time, she not only cried when peeing, but started to pass blood. The vet put her on a course of metacam, Trimeth, and potassium citrate. She was OK for a very short time, but then the crying and peeing started up again, probably worse. I took her in to be x-rayed again--this was probably her fourth or fifth x-ray, but she never shows stones. She was put on another two-week course of Baytril this time (a month after her course of Trimeth), metacam again, and continued potassium citrate. She has not gotten better, but worse. What concerns me this time is that she seems to be spending more time in her pigloo, just nibbling at her food, and not drinking much at all. I was just watching her, and she took a few nibbles of pellets, a few of hay, maybe one sip of water. She seems to sniff the bottle, but not partake. I know she is in pain, and the bleeding continues despite the meds she's in the midst of taking. The blood seems thin and watery. When I finish this letter, I'm going to give her vets a call and probably pick up some Critical Care. I remember M's advice about the cranberry juice and can try that. Please, if anyone out there has any experience and advice that has helped their piggies, I would SO appreciate hearing from you!. Thank you so much. Ann & piggies Dart, Feather, Gizmo & Tessie From gapeachge at yahoo.com Thu Nov 20 12:35:43 2008 From: gapeachge at yahoo.com (Glenda English) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:35:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: How much greens References: Message-ID: <190798.3155.qm@web58007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi Gary and Hershey, My two girls think they're supposed to have greens all day too. They can be such "piglets" sometimes.:) Here's what we do, and it seems to keep them happy and on a bit of a schedule, along with controlled amounts. In the morning before we leave for work/school, Cookie and Ruby each get 2-4 romaine leaves (depends on how big the leaves are) torn up into pieces and a handful each of parsley sprigs. DD says they're getting their garnish. We pile on the hay in their hay bowls and add pieces of apple and cantaloupe for them to nibble on during the day. They also each have their piggy food in bowls. My two (ages 9 mos. and 3 mos.) are still in separate cages for while longer. They have graduated to floor time without Ruby being in the playpen. So far, so good. When I get home in the evenings, they start wheeking for fresh goodies. Between 5:30 and 6:30 p.m., they get a repeat of the morning's fare. Every few days, I may add a baby carrot to Ruby's plate, but Cookie won't touch them. About once a week, they get grass trimmings (if there is any), and they love the extra "green." Even when we're home on the weekends, we still keep to the am/pm fresh feedings and just refill their hay bowls during the day. They also get hay and food in separate piles for floor time. Very rarely will they nibble fruit if we put it on the floor with them. They like it on their saucers in their cages. They're kind of spoiled. :) Some web sites will list certain amounts, like for fruit, but we go with what we know ours will eat. One wedge of apple each, and 2-3 pieces of cantaloupe. Then they can nibble as they want it. Oh, did I mention that they like their fruit chilled? Very chilled. :) Hope that helps. Some of the websites mention twice a day, and that works for all of us. They love to hear the fridge door open. The symphony of wheeks starts and gets louder and louder until we walk back over to the cages. I love how enthusiastic they are about their goodies. So cute to find them looking up, getting more impatient with each wheeky, wheeky. Hugs to you and Hershey, Glenda, Meghan, Cookie, Ruby and (Callie) ________________________________ From mfug at live.co.uk Thu Nov 20 12:19:19 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:19:19 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Health; Cystitis Message-ID: Hi Anne, sorry I have no more advice about cystitis all I can say is Cranberry worked for Bubble and he was also passing blood in his urine. Hope you find something to help your little girl, big hugs to both of you. M + Fugly _________________________________________________________________ Win ?1000 John Lewis shopping sprees with BigSnapSearch.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ From jimmarg.lynn at att.net Thu Nov 20 15:28:13 2008 From: jimmarg.lynn at att.net (Jim and Margaret Lynn) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:28:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement....I'm back! Message-ID: <252267.28159.qm@web82503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, ? I have been off of the mailing list of GPDD for some time.....not sure of the reason.? And, due to some major health concerns I didn't feel like joining again.? But.....now I am feeling much better and looking forward to renewing connection with some of my guinea pig friends.? ? In checking the web today I just learned about the passing of Joe Petrillo.? He wrote to me when I lost my little Speedy.? Joe had a knack of eloquently saying just the right words of comfort.? I will miss him! ? I still have my little black and white Olivia.? She must be over five years old now but still acts like a youngster.?? She gets a lot of pampering; she'll probably be my last pigger. ? Jim.....and Olivia? (and remembering Koko, Abby, Sassy Suzy, and Ginger) From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Nov 20 16:09:31 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:09:31 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Chronic cystitis Message-ID: <57ECF85B73E24F51BD19A9258C9A8BC8@inspiron1150> Ann, So sorry to read about little Dart's cystitis. It has been many a year since one of my sows had cystitis as bad as hers but my Hawthorn suffered this illness really badly. Baytril failed to stem the infection so my then vet suggested we try Tribrissen antibiotic and this cleared it up quite quickly as I recall. I can thoroughly recommend M's suggestion of the cranberry juice. I have also used Cymalon, a remedy available from the pharmacy here in England, for the relief of cysitis in humans. It comes in little sachets and the main ingredient is Sodium Citrate. Whether there is much difference between this and the Potassium Citrate that you have been trying, I do not know but this remedy cleared up Gingerbread's cystitis. On my Rodentologist's suggestion I dissolved a quarter of a sachet in an eggcup of water and syringed her a little at a time over the course of two days. I have also successfully used barley water to cure cystitis. Not the drink that comes in a bottle but the home made variety. It is fiddly to make but it can work. The recipe is on Peter Gurney's website. http://www.oginet.com/pgurney/cystitis.htm It has got to be worth a try. You will definitely need to syringe feed Dart with Critical Care or similar to keep her strength up whilst curing the cystitis. Good luck, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From bunzella at yahoo.ca Thu Nov 20 18:49:56 2008 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:49:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: chronic cystitis Message-ID: <383595.65554.qm@web31508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ann, I'm not sure whether my experience will help or not, but I was in exactly the same situation as you are describing only two months ago and today Doris (my own piggie who has been battling chronic cystitis) is happy and healthy --- so I definitely know how you feel, and maybe can offer some hope! Doris has had UTIs regularly for the past three years or so; the vet always treated them with Sulfatrim and they *seemed* to go away, but in the last year the infections were coming back more frequently, often quite soon after treatment. At first, the vet thought the answer was to give the antibiotics for longer, and we tried six weeks on the Sulfatrim. Only two weeks after completing that course of drugs, Doris had another infection (and this was with me trying Peter Gurney's barley water and honey treatment on her at the same time). Then the vet prescribed Chloro-Palm; she had had very good results with other guinea pigs, but it was a complete failure with Doris --- again the symptoms went away while she was on it, but only a few days afterwards, she was even sicker than before. Finally the vet desided to do a culture and sensitivity test on the bacteria, and that was what seemed to me to make the difference. We had to wait a few days (which was horrible, because Doris, like little Dart, was bleeding every time she peed and making the most heart-rending cries --- and this was even with metacam taking the edge off), but the results indicated that baytril would be most effective and we started her on that right away. I was really beside myself at this point because I'd just found out that I was having surgery on my eye the next day and I was terrified that something would go wrong and I would not be able to get home afterwards to take care of Doris; also, after the other two antibiotics had failed, I was not very confident about this one, either. FORTUNATELY, my surgery went fine and the baytril was the right thing for Doris; within even a few days, the bleeding had stopped and she was not squeaking in pain anymore. By the end of the two weeks on baytril, she was better than she had been in a long time, and in the three weeks or so since she finished the course of drugs, she has shown no sign of recurrence. (I know it's still early, but in the last six or eight months, she has often begun to show signs of another infection by this stage!) So that's the one thing I can suggest --- to do the culture & sensitivity test, make sure what bacteria you are dealing with, and what drugs are effective against it. When you get the right antibiotic for the right bug, the results will seem like a miracle! And don't lose heart because of the awful pain she seems to be in right now; that can turn around almost overnight with effective treatment and Dart will go back to her happy little piggie life without a backward glance. GOOD LUCK and keep in touch, Pat (with piggles Doris, Audrey and Olivia) __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 20 18:31:43 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:31:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Cranberry supplement Message-ID: <487472.4853.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I haven't had any experience with cystitis in piggies, but I know cranberry pills really work for me, usually knocking it out in a day or two. Oxbow puts out a cranberry pill, which Hershey recommends as being very palatable. It's so hard seeing and hearing our little ones in distress. My heart and prayers go out to you and your furkid. Joanie From Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com Fri Nov 21 14:45:12 2008 From: Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com (Conklin Kacee) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:45:12 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Urgent Reminder. Munchees need homes Nashville, TN area. Message-ID: <9B4181F0FD23584AAC347E64493AB4DD1295B112FB@NADCWPMSGCMS08.hca.corpad.net> My landlord has come down on me and I need to find homes for some of my guinea pigs. Is there anyone in the Nashville area that can make room for some of them? I don't have to tell you how this is killing me! Kacee From ebak at ca.inter.net Fri Nov 21 19:31:38 2008 From: ebak at ca.inter.net (Evelyn Baker) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:31:38 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Re: Chronic Cystitis Message-ID: <65E3FDE6-6F52-44A6-8820-7BBC5A8FA105@ca.inter.net> I've had many pigs with this problem. It seems to be really common. Chronic Cystitis can be caused by bladder stones and that is a route that should be checked out. That's usually how it's detected and I've had a few guinea pigs with that. My last guinea pig, Phoebe had cystitis most of her life. We did the antibiotic routines, longer does, different kinds. We did cranberry juice which loved until she made faces and her ears would squinge back. But next dose, she loved it all over again. For her it was a treat. Chronic Cystitis can also be a symptom of diabetes. After about five years of on again off again bladder infections and tests I stopped giving her carrots, corn, and strawberries. She of course still got fresh cranberries when in season. My vets couldn't believe it. She never got another bladder infection again. Of course I didn't completely ban her from some of her favourite foods, I just measured them out. I used to let her gnaw away on big chunks of carrot. I then gave her a small medallion of carrot a couple times a week. She enjoyed it much more. Because it would complete disappear rather than leaving carrot art (a sculpture and shavings) on the bottom of the cage. She got strawberry hulls and corn silk and husk. The odd time a piece of strawberry. Dandelion is good for cystitis but not necessarily for bladder stones. It's a diuretic and they love it. She also loved the barley water I made from Peter Gurney's recipe. I don't think it really helped. So my advice is to check your guinea pig's diet. Also I had one guinea pig who would sit in her house in the same spot all the time. I started cleaning out under the house a couple times a day and moving the house around. That helped for her. I hope this has been of some help to you. Evelyn From ann_sadoian at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 22 09:41:02 2008 From: ann_sadoian at sbcglobal.net (Ann Sadoian) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:41:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: chronic cystitis Message-ID: <73714.72486.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi everyone-- Thank you so much to everyone who has taken the time to write to me personally and through the Digest with advice and words of wisdom for me as I try to help Dart with her recurring problem with cystitis. I appreciate so very much the support from you all and will use what I can to help her get and stay better. For two years now, she has cried when pee'ing (except in the summer, as I shared), so I've felt that this is something that she has to live with, and only treated her when the symptoms seemed especially severe. I didn't want her to take pain meds forever, just as I wouldn't want to do that myself. But when she started to bleed as well as cry in October, then when she was worse this week than she ever was, I started to really worry. The day I wrote to you all was the worst I've seen her, and she seemed sick all day, not just uncomfortable when pee'ing. Up to this point, she has gone about her business and gone on with life, despite the pain. Before I took her to the vet on Thursday, I did syringe her some straight cranberry juice. She took it willingly, but only seems to want a little at a time. Maybe what seems a little to me is really a lot to a piggy! The vet changed her antibiotic mid-course (since it was obviously not working) to one that is used for horses. He adjusts the dosage for smaller animals and adds sweetener. He told me he's had good luck with it in treating upper respiratory infections in piggies, even when other antiobiotics didn't work. We decided to give it a try since trimeth didn't work for Dart in October. He also wants to keep her on metacam because of the bad pain she was experiencing. I bought some Critical Care, and my son and I gave her a feed Thursday night with some more cranberry juice. This way she got some fluids, as she hadn't been drinking and just nibbling at her food. I don't know what made the difference, but I woke to the sound of the water bottle and ran in to see who was drinking. It was Dart, and she then jumped up on the bars on the side of the cage to say "hi." She was eating hay and pellets normally, and just seemed so much perked up from the day before. We've been watching her closely, and she still cries, but softly, when she pees. From what I can see, the bleeding seems to have stopped nearly completely, if not completely so. I'm just going to keep on with this course and hope that she will improve, at least to the point she's been at, where the crying was quiet but not disruptive to her life? and where she wasn't bleeding. Heartfelt thanks to you all, and I will keep you posted as to how Dart continues to do. My son thinks I should post photos, but I don't know how to do that, so I will enlist his help sometime when it's not so busy and send some photos of Dart, her sister and cagemate Feather, and Gizmo and Tessie, who live in another cage. They are all so precious and fun! Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone! Ann Dart, Feather, Gizmo & Tessie From ann_sadoian at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 22 10:20:39 2008 From: ann_sadoian at sbcglobal.net (Ann Sadoian) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:20:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: chronic cystitis Message-ID: <393734.33754.qm@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi again-- In case anyone might be helped to know the name, the antiobiotic I mentioned that is used for horses and Dart's vet mixes for small animals is named "tucoprim." I will keep you posted as to how it works--hopefully it will be a help to Dart and others who have this recurring problem with cystitis. Ann Dart, Feather, Gizmo & Tessie From ann.evans at hintlink.com Sat Nov 22 17:44:03 2008 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:44:03 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Sow had cystitis now may have a stone in the urethra Message-ID: <49288B33.1090209@hintlink.com> I have a 4.5 year old sow that is going to be x-rayed on November 25 to see if she has a stone in her urethra. She had cystitis in May and was treated with Paediatric Septrin 0.5ml twice a day for 14 days along with Rimadyl 10mg twice a day for 14 days. The cystitis cleared up but she has been on 0.3ml liquid Vit C and 0.2ml Hydrangea root tincture daily per Vedra Stanley Spatcher's instructions to prevent another case of cystitis. Overnight she developed what appears to be a large hard lump in her urethra. She is acting normally and she does not have blood in her urine. It is as if this stone was in her bladder and just pushed on down into her urethra. Has anyone seen this situation before? In Vedra's book she shows a stone in a sows urethra but this stone is not that large. I read the archives and could not find any reference to a stone in the urethra that is about a half a centimeter wide by a half a centimeter high. She has always drank filtered water and lots of it. Have any of your piggies undergone surgery to remove a stone in the urethra? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Ann and the rescued piggys of piggyville Tampa Florida USA From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sat Nov 22 21:39:16 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:39:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Back Message-ID: <45001.56106.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Jim and Margaret It is good to hear from you again. I am glad you still have a guinea pig. I just adopted one a couple of weeks ago. Her name is Blackberry. I still have Dexter too. I am sorry your health has been failing. I hope you will keep getting better. We were all upset over Joe's passing. He was great with words of comfort when we needed them. Dawnda Stricklen http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Nov 23 07:19:59 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:19:59 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Sow with stone in urethra Message-ID: <604F26FE22FA49FAAFBEDEB4861089E6@inspiron1150> Hi Ann, I have seen this condition once. An older piggy, Mir, was brought to live at Piggyfriends and, after a while, she developed a lump exactly as you have described. She also carried on eating etc. as though she had no problem. I took her to see a vet, who said that this lump was a growth, which he would be unable to remove. I couldn't believe that a growth could develop so suddenly. If you read the GPDD regularly, you will know that I have little regard for most English vets when it comes to piggies but I was lucky enough to find a CCT Rodentologist in my area. He immediately recognised Mir's "lump" for what it was and, under a local anaesthetic, was able to make a little incision and remove the stone. There was minimal bleeding and she was happily sitting up and eating within moments of her op. I was amazed at the size of the stone, especially as Mir was only a little piggy, but my Rodentologist had seen this happen before, often misdiagnosed by imcompetent vets. Mir must have arrived here with the stone in her bladder and it had descended overnight, just as has occurred with your sow. I do not know if she had ever suffered from cystitis in her previous home and have no idea what food or water she might have received there but she never developed another stone and lived to a ripe old age. Wishing you the best of luck with your little girl. Do let us know how you get on. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From greig164 at btinternet.com Sun Nov 23 14:02:28 2008 From: greig164 at btinternet.com (A GREIG) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:02:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Respiratory problem Message-ID: <631348.93984.qm@web86311.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just to say that Kiaroo is better now after her course of antibiotics. She was whimpering before when she lay down sometimes and seemed to be breathing a bit heavily. The vet wasn't 100% sure what was wrong bit she seems fine now which is great. Anne, kiaroo and Maisie From dfhakes at aol.com Sun Nov 23 16:58:18 2008 From: dfhakes at aol.com (Dana Felice) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:58:18 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Stone in urethra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019901c94db6$98500f20$c8f02d60$@com> Ann, We had a vet in town who pioneered a method to retrieve stones non-surgically under anesthesia. Basically he sticks something up the urethra and gets it. He is now in Charlotte treating many lucky pigs including the Princess and Bertie. Not sure who you use as a vet in Tampa but this is something that I would trust either with my vet (James Hughes) or Peter Helmer. Let me know how you want to proceed. Dana From jimmarg.lynn at att.net Sun Nov 23 16:47:30 2008 From: jimmarg.lynn at att.net (Jim and Margaret Lynn) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:47:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Stone in urethra Message-ID: <452697.70984.qm@web82507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ann, ? Several years ago I had a one of my sows (Sassy Suzy) develop a stone in her urethra.? She did not seem uncomfortable with it and it didn't affect her in any way that I noticed except she would complain if you touched it. ? I took her to the vet who sedated her and then was able to remove the stone with tweezers or forceps.? The?stone (I still have it) was about the size of a pea.? A year or two later the same thing happened again only this time there were several but smaller stones.? She was put on an antibiotic for a while and everything was fine after that. ? I hope this has been of some help to you. ? Jim.........and Olivia ? ? From oreochockc at yahoo.com Sun Nov 23 16:22:49 2008 From: oreochockc at yahoo.com (corrine sakumoto) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:22:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Mini Message-ID: <255679.50368.qm@web54601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello everyone and everypig. This sunday morning at around 10:30 a.m. we lost our beloved piggie, Mini. She was a little over four years old. We were scheduled for an early morning flight. Upon cleaning and feeding the piggies before we were to leave for an overnight trip, but paid the change penalties to change the flight so we could be with her for a few hours (we are due to return on Monday morning), she was acting 'funny.' We looked up the symptoms and found out she had had a stroke. She might have had more strokes after that. She is our eldest piggie. This happens after only three months after losing my beloved Peppermint. I will write more later when I can. Our hearts are so heavy..... Blossom and Baby Truffles and Sparkles all got to say goodbye. Sparkles and Mini would nose each other through the partition between their pens. Does anyone know more about strokes? Could we have done something? Should we have done something to prevent this from happening? Thanks for your help. Corrine and Michael and now Blossom, Baby Truffles, Sparkles, and the boys Snoopy and Snowy Bear From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sun Nov 23 20:39:53 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:39:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Stones Message-ID: <855792.6354.qm@web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ann I had a guinea pig that had stones in the urethra. My Sabrina passed her stone and it was very large. My vet sent it out to California for a special guinea pig stone study. He could not believe she had passed it. She was going to have to have surgery if she did not pass it. If it blocks the urethra, they will die fast. I had some muscle relaxers and I chipped a small piece off and gave it to her. She passed it that night. My vet said he was going to try a muscle relaxer next time he had a stone problem like that. I have heard someone on the digest say that their vet manually worked the stone out from the urethra. Other have had to have surgery to remove them. Especially when they are large. Some guinea pigs tend to be prone to stones and it seems the older ones have stone problems. Good luck! Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From Glynis at garnay.com.au Sun Nov 23 23:17:16 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:17:16 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome back Jim Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9230921DF@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Hi there !!!! Welcome back from me in OZ, i unfortunately have lost my two boys, they travelled in 2006 and recently in Oct. 08 to the bridge :o( Sorry to hear about your health HUGS xxxxxxxx and the other piggies travelling to the bridge RIP xxxxxxx little ones. Looking forward to hearing about little Olivia, i do remember you and your other piggies. Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Sun Nov 23 23:25:44 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:25:44 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Mimi Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF9230921E0@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Oh no......Corrine and Michael how sad for you both :o( RIP Mimi run free at the bridge, i hope by now you're playing with family and friends from the gpdd, and munching on the lovely green grass and dandelions xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you'll NEVER be forgotten little one. (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and loves from me to you all, and to greiving Sparkles, Blossom, Baby Truffles, Snoopy and Snowy Bear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I'm so sorry you've had to go thru this again so soon :o( Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From pals4pets at cheerful.com Mon Nov 24 04:05:14 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:05:14 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [BEHAVIOUR] Non-wheeking piggies! Message-ID: <20081124090514.E305A1CE8FB@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Trying to cut a long story short, I acquired Scoot about 18 months ago as a companion for Zebra, but Scoot bullied Zebra so they were separated. Then in the summer I acquired Soturi as a companion for Scoot, but Scoot bullied Soturi so they were separated, and later in the summer I aquired Minstrel as a companion for Soturi, but Soturi ran for his life whenever Minstrel approached him, then when I brought them in for the winter there were several real fights and Soturi got bitten several times, so they were separated! So now their 3 cages are all up against one another, so they can touch noses but not bite one another. They seem to communicate amongst themselves, a lot of rumblestrutting but also some chatter (not of teeth!) and nose touching. BUT ... they never wheek at me when I enter the room!! Until Scrabble went to the Bridge, they had always been within sight and sound of a wheeking piggie - first Zebra, then Scrabble. These two, like my 5 remaining SCAMP girls, always wheeked when anyone entered their room, just in case there was food involved! Actually, the girls wheek even if someone, or another animal, goes near the door of their room, or if they hear my voice, or a voice on the TV that sounds like me!! And in spite of what they may tell you, they are well fed piggies, with salad morning and evening and a permanent supply of hay and mixed pellets (all colouring-free, and there is some Cavies Cuisine mixed in there, although I can't afford to feed this exclusively, as it is very expensive to import to France). In the past, I have found that, whenever a "chief wheeker" from a group went to The Bridge, another piggie would take up that responsibility. But the 3 boys - no, not a sound. In fact, Minstrel and Scoot dive for cover as soon as I enter the room, even at mealtimes, and I am loathe to remove their little houses, although I have seen this advised. In the wild piggies live in burrows, I would consider it cruel to make them completely exposed in their cages, especially as there are cats wandering in and out of their room. The cats are not the problem though - they were wandering in and out when Fidget, Scrabble and Zebra were in there and it never stopped them wheeking. I have tried hand-feeding the boys one at a time to "bond" with them better, either on my lap or through the bars of their cages. They accept this, albeit the lap bit somewhat reluctantly, but even when they see one of them being fed before them on my lap, the other two don't wheek! Has anyone else had piggies that don't wheek? It bothers me, because to me it means they don't recognise me as their slave, they still view me as a predator! And as we all know here, that is NOT the natural order of things for gpdd-ers!! How can I make these 3 lads understand the hierarchy? Debbie, slave to 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From ann.evans at hintlink.com Mon Nov 24 13:55:46 2008 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:55:46 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Update on sow with possible stone in urethra Message-ID: <492AF8B2.1010802@hintlink.com> Hello Wonderful GPDD readers, I am overwhelmed by all the Piggy Slaves that have written to me personally and through the digest with information on urinary stones. Tomorrow the 25 of November at 09:45 I take Kinjaroo in for her xray. Since she is eating and peeing normally we have time to discuss what is the best approach for her. I am so appreciative to everyone for taking the time to write me. I am always open to more information and I will keep you posted. I will be in the xray room with Kinjaroo and will be able to see the film as soon as it is developed. I will keep you all posted. Thank you for your kindness. Cheers, Ann and the rescued piggys of piggyville Tampa Florida USA -- Ann Evans +1 813.249.8502 http://hintlink.com/ From ann.evans at hintlink.com Mon Nov 24 14:05:24 2008 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:05:24 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [CARE] Shredded newspaper Message-ID: <492AFAF4.90803@hintlink.com> Does anyone use shredded newspaper for piggy bedding? I usually use newspaper to line the C&C cages then cover it up with about 3 inches of coastal hay then add fresh timothy hay everyday. We compost our shredded black and white newspaper with soy based ink but we often have more than we need. What are peoples views pro and con about using it as bedding for piggys? They would still get timothy hay everyday. Recently I have gotten several bales of hay that I rejected because they were too dusty or had non hay objects in them. Thank you Ann and the rescued piggys of piggyville Tampa Florida USA From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 24 15:28:14 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:28:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Condolences to Corinne Message-ID: <871789.72824.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I want to assure you that your beloved Mini's stroke could not have been prevented. Sometimes there are deformed blood vessels in the brain that simply rupture. That happened to my mom and three other people I know. Those three?were not even middle-aged. They all survived intact, happy to say but a lot more don't. I was touched that you postponed your travel plans for her, and that her piggie friends got to say good-bye. It doesn't matter how many times we go through these kind of losses; they're always gut-wrenching, and don't get easier with "practice." You did your very best for Mini. She knew that and knows that still, and, I suspect when you meet at the bridge, she'll tell you so plainly. It's my hope that species' language barriers will no longer exist there, and we can reminisce and get to know our furkids even better than we knew them before. With sincerest sympathy, Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 24 15:40:31 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:40:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Therapy Pigs? Message-ID: <668149.20358.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'd like to write a book/paper on personal experiences with piggies as therapy animals, not?just in clinical settings, convalescent hospitals, and the like, but in our own personal lives. Confidentiality would be of primary concern in my writing. If I could gather enough information, I think I could run with this and promote our little friends in an area in which they have so much talent, bringing hope, joy,?love, and comfort?to those of us who are hurting. Just an idea that might bring piggies out of their cages and into people's hearts where they belong... Joanie From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Mon Nov 24 13:08:44 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:08:44 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Separation Anxiety Message-ID: Hello Slaves! Well, I finally have a moment to breathe at work. So, I need to catch up on my 'ole Digest readings. The Princess and Mr. Bertie have been Spoiled to pieces, as I come home everyday for lunch to provide them Lunch and 'Pig Service'. I've never lived only 5 min from work before, and that is the only reason I am able to come home everyday like that. But, when my lease ends in March, I am pretty sure that I am not going to renew because the heating/cooling system is lacking and does not work to my satisfaction on the second level of my townhouse. Plus, overall, my apt complex is a little ghetto-fabulous :-) and I think I'm paying too much for what I get. Sooooo, I already know that where ever I move to, I won't be able to come home for lunch daily. So, this wheeek, I'm trying to get the pigs used to being alone all day. From now on, on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, I will Not be coming home for lunch. On Tuesdays, I will come home for lunch. On Thursdays, I work from home. Well, I didn't realize how Hard it would be for me to stay away from my Babies alllll day. I miss them. I just want a piggie cuddle or a kiss or pretty much Anything at this point! And I keep wondering if they are Angry at me right now. I hope not. I keep looking at the clock, hoping that it would move Faster. Geeeez. Okay, I know it will get easier as time goes on, but I feel like I just quit smoking, cold turkey! I can do this! I'll be Strong, Slaves. It's a little after 1pm now. Only 3 hours and 40 min to go... Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake and Bertie Pig :-) From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 24 18:53:21 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:53:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Mats Message-ID: <705878.36028.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hershey's a long-haired piggie. Looks just like a Shetland Sheepdog with Papillon ears. I try to keep her?rear end?clipped, but she's developed dense mats so close to the skin that I can't get to them, even with curved scissors. She's very patient with my cosmetological excursions--as long as she's eating! Will the mats grow out to the point where I can cut them? I hope so. They capture urine and make my little princess stinky, which can't be healthy for her. Anyone have any suggestions? Groomer to Her Highness' Hiney, Joanie From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 24 18:57:41 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:57:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] BEHAVIOR: Teeth grinding Message-ID: <585187.74802.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Today we were stretched out in the pig pen, and Hershey cuddled in close to me and was singing softly with her teeth chattering rhythmically. I thought that was supposed to be an aggressive gesture. I know rabbits grind their teeth when contented and also when in pain. Hershey didn't seem to be annoyed. Could chattering teeth have two different meanings in guins as well? Hoping so, Joanie From rzm.2 at juno.com Mon Nov 24 19:33:42 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:33:42 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- only piggies Message-ID: <20081124.163342.11477.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Joanie- I totally understand about your only piggie. You & I are in the same boat. I am also bi-polar & have a host of other health problems, so we can only have one piggie too. I've always had only piggies & they have always done just fine. I bond very closely with my piggies though so that is probably why they do ok. E-mail me off digest sometime if you want to. It would be good to have someone to talk to about the bi-polar thing. I don't have too many people I can talk to about it. Take care. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to reduce your debt by filing for bankruptcy. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw22U53CQUlS34PFOVy96clRQFnYDIyQK5spNz9BEYimtITFk/ From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Mon Nov 24 21:24:58 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:24:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Mini Message-ID: <688452.71555.qm@web52309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Corrine and Michael I am so sorry that you had to lose Mini so soon after Peppermint. I have lost four guinea pigs to strokes and heart attacks. The one I new she had had a stroke. She was not walking like she should. A few hours later, I watched her have a heart attack while eating lettuce. They go really fast. It is hard because we are not expecting it. I try to make myself feel better by thinking that they did not have to suffer a long drawn-out death. There is really nothing you can do to stop it from happening in older piggies. Try not to feel too bad. You give your pigs a wonderful, happy life. They just do not live long enough for us. I send my deepest condolence to Hawaii for you and Michael. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From pals4pets at cheerful.com Tue Nov 25 05:16:26 2008 From: pals4pets at cheerful.com (Debbie Jones) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:16:26 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Mini Message-ID: <20081125101626.2E6DE32675A@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> Corrine, Michael, Blossom, Baby Truffles, Sparkles, Snoopy and Snowy Bear We were so very sorry to hear that your precious baby, Mini, had gone to The Rainbow Bridge. It was very considerate of you to change your flight details so you could be with her when she set off on that final journey, and we are sure she knew how very dearly she was loved. As far as we know, none of the Dolly Mixtures have had a stroke, although we suppose that may be what happened to those who have slipped away during the night. This will have hit you particularly hard coming so soon after Peppermint's departure for The Bridge, and having lost several piggies recently, we know what a devastating effect this can have. There are no words which can can ever lessen the hurt when a beloved friend leaves us, but may it bring you some small comfort to know that there are gpdd-ers all over the world who understand the pain you are going through, and who are remembering you in their thoughts and prayers. Debbie and the 8 Dolly Mixtures "We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth". Henry Beston -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com Tue Nov 25 11:36:44 2008 From: Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com (Conklin Kacee) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:36:44 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Munchee plan Message-ID: <9B4181F0FD23584AAC347E64493AB4DD1295B11332@NADCWPMSGCMS08.hca.corpad.net> I think I have a plan in order to keep the rest of the Munchees. Karma, Krissee and Kirsten are settled in a new and loving home in Chattanooga. My plan is to take one of the C&C cages and place it on the twin bed in the second bedroom. I'll keep the door closed when I am not home. I can fit 3 of the boys in that one and then buy a regular guinea pig cage for the 4th one. I will get two more large guinea pig cages and have the older ones in the living room on tables or whatever I can arrange to put them on. I have spoken to my ally at my complex and she likes the plan. If I have any maintenance need, I should call her directly. She will help me keep this under the radar. Fortunately, the manager of the complex has other bigger fish to fry at the moment so is not thinking about the guinea pigs. Should she visit the apartment, she will just see the 4 cages with the 8 Munchees and they will be "off the floor." I will be spending the long Thanksgiving weekend getting rid of stuff I really don't use anymore to clear the way for the boys in the bedroom. Keep your fingers crossed for me that my set up stays secret from the Wicked Witch of the West ... and that my arthritic knees hold out! :-) Kacee From rzm.2 at juno.com Tue Nov 25 13:15:52 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:15:52 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH- UTIs Message-ID: <20081125.101552.19534.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Ann- I'm glad Dart is doing a little better. Is it possible the bleeding is being caused by some sort of female problem rather then a UTI? Just trying to think of other things it could be since the antibiotics don't seem to be helping. Maybe it isn't a UTI at all. Others may know more about what kind of female problems piggies get. I don't know much about that particular subject. Just an idea, but I'm really glad she's ok & I hope she gets better. Keep us posted. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click for online loan, fast & no lender fee, approval today http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2P5svANQlRPHYuCGu1sLfHAKl9TRpLcgus1ZzwGf3K9sat4/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Tue Nov 25 13:34:49 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:34:49 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20081125.103449.19534.1@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Corrine- I'm very sorry to hear Mini went to the Bridge. I do not think you can do anything to prevent strokes in piggies. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click for online loan, fast & no lender fee, approval today http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2P5smV3icy7mYXwdej0STrTWgNV4ChTIfrTgYNDo1hreuaS/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Nov 25 13:46:33 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:46:33 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE Mats Message-ID: <6DBE6430F7694E1F9BD3CD00BCFA4AE0@inspiron1150> Joanie, Sometimes piggies arrive here at Piggyfriends with horribly matted coats. When the mats are too close to the skin to cut them off, as has happened with Hershey, I find that the easiest way to get them tidy again is to give them a bath. Apart from making the piggy feel much more comfortable, the mats separate somewhat when they are wet. Try to cut down the middle of the mat, very carefully, and you may find that you can tease the matted lump apart. You might be able to cut the divided mat again and again until, eventually, you have removed the lot. Hershey's coat will not grow to the extent that the mats are further away from her skin. She will just get more and more matted and the urine could scald her skin. Nature never intended piggies to have long coats and we have to intervene. Once you have her neat and tidy again, keep her rear end trimmed very short to avoid a recurrence of the problem. If you can get someone to hold her still and you have access to an electric trimmer, you could try keeping her coat short that way. I just use scissors on my herd and I definitely wouldn't try the electric razor on a boar. You might find this hard to begin with but practice makes perfect ( or very nearly ). Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Nov 25 13:47:46 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:47:46 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE Shredded newspaper Message-ID: Ann, I use the same system as you for the Piggyfriends' pens, newspaper on the floor and hay on top. Years ago, our Rainbow was always getting hayseeds in his eye so I switched him to shredded newspaper bedding for his own safety and gave him his munching hay in a rack. He never seemed to mind and lived to be seven. As long as you know that the newspaper is safe to eat I cannot envisage a problem with using it for bedding. There is a limit to the amount that can be composted and paper must be just as cosy as hay for sleeping. Newspapers in England do not use toxic ink and I would imagine that your paper is just as safe. I have had the same trouble with horrible haybales from local farms and have had to start buying it from the pet store instead, which costs a fortune, but I was throwing away so many thistles, sticks and lumps of dried mud that there was not much left for the piggies. Give the paper a try and see if the pampered piggies of Piggyville complain. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From ann.evans at hintlink.com Tue Nov 25 14:02:16 2008 From: ann.evans at hintlink.com (Ann Evans) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Update on sow with a urethral stone Message-ID: <492C4BB8.40909@hintlink.com> Kinjaroo has a 15mm long by 10mm wide stone in her urethra. It was confirmed by x-ray today. My vet Dr. Bonsack is conferring with Dr. Griffin of http://www.griffinexotics.com and Vedra Stanley Spatcher of the Cambridge Cavy Trust and Guinea Pig Hospital http://rodentology.co.uk/ as to surgical techniques that they recommend for removal of the stone. His main concern is what type of suture pattern should be used. Also, He wants to keep the surgical time to a minimum. He has performed many successful operations on my cavies. I have operated a private cavy rescue home for over 24 years and this is my first case of a urinary stone. It seems like every week someone is writing about stones and I thought for some reason I was lucky that none of the rescued piggys ever had one. And then presto overnight one drops down from Kinjaroo's bladder into her urethra and it is huge yet she is acting totally normal except if I push on the stone. The x-ray even shows the stone has some spiny crystals on it yet she does not have blood in her urine or any problem urinating. This shows how each case is unique. Thank you to everyone who has written me with information about urinary tract stones. This is one of the strengths of our group that we share information with others. Most vets do not have one tenth the information about cavies as we do. By sharing our experiences and educating each other and our veterinarians we benefit cavies worldwide. Cheers, Ann and the rescued piggys of piggyville Tampa Florida USA. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Nov 25 14:02:18 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:02:18 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Mini Message-ID: <1A6EB74B9D344E72A11E44D722C7CD14@inspiron1150> Corrine and Michael, I am so sorry to read that you have lost your precious Mini, especially so soon after the loss of your dear Peppermint. There is nothing that you could have done to prevent a stroke. Just as in humans, this can happen so suddenly that they have gone before we have a chance to help. I lost my dear old Truffle last year to a stroke and even rushing him to see my wonderful Rodentologists could not save him. Perhaps you might be consoled by knowing that she did not suffer a long, complicated illness and had the best of lives with you both. Such excellent slaves to have delayed your flight to be with her at the end. Please accept our most sincere condolences. Take care. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From pandameisje at gmail.com Tue Nov 25 17:13:18 2008 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:13:18 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Scamps site (and PLAY) Message-ID: Hi all, I just want to let you know I'm still making the SCAMPS website. http://scamps-gpdd.blogspot.com/ It has been updated a lot recently, sadly mostly because of SCAMPS making their departures for the bridge... I guess the risk of SCAMPS going over the rainbow bridge is higher then of piggies under 5 years. If you have a SCAMPS piggy (that is a piggy of 5 years old or older) and you want him or her added to the SCAMPS let me know. Please send me a story, profile, anything you want us GPDD-ers to know about your SCAMP and add a pigture if you have one. There is a special section for our SCAMPS over the Bridge... Wheeks and greetings, Mieke and the Winky girls: Guiny, Dunya and Woopy and the shelter boys: Toby and Chico p.s. Sorry still did not get Janneke's correction for our latest PLAY... Maybe it helps if we all spam Janneke? (I guess she is just very busy..) However you can all read our Previous PLAY on the page I made: http://home.casema.nl/mulder74/Igor's PLAY/PlayPage.HTML (i hope you can all see it, since it's been giving us some trouble lately.., right now I cannot update it, so even if Janneke corrected the last version I could not add it. We are thinking about getting a domain name for our piggies pages, anyone have a suggestion for the domain name? we're thinking about www.winkies.nl or www.winkygang.nl) -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com m.staaks at pecoma.nl Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 25 18:41:23 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:41:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Shredded newspaper Message-ID: <817889.87461.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I tried putting shredded paper in Hershey's cage for her to dig and tunnel in. She seemed to think it was a delicacy. Maybe it was the food section of the paper? I had to take it away from her to keep her from eating it. Hope you have better luck with newspaper. I do remember on the net reading about its use as a bedding. I wish I could remember where. Maybe a C&C site? Joanie From pandameisje at gmail.com Tue Nov 25 17:14:37 2008 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:14:37 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Scamps site (and PLAY) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Darn the link for the PLAY website did not work completely. Here's another try: http://home.casema.nl/mulder74/Igor%27s%20PLAY/PlayPage.HTML I hope you enjoy!! Mikey 2008/11/25 Mieke Staaks > Hi all, > > I just want to let you know I'm still making the SCAMPS website. > http://scamps-gpdd.blogspot.com/ > It has been updated a lot recently, sadly mostly because of SCAMPS making > their departures for the bridge... > I guess the risk of SCAMPS going over the rainbow bridge is higher then of > piggies under 5 years. > > If you have a SCAMPS piggy (that is a piggy of 5 years old or older) and > you want him or her added to the SCAMPS let me know. > Please send me a story, profile, anything you want us GPDD-ers to know > about your SCAMP and add a pigture if you have one. > There is a special section for our SCAMPS over the Bridge... > > Wheeks and greetings, > Mieke and the Winky girls: Guiny, Dunya and Woopy > and the shelter boys: Toby and Chico > > p.s. Sorry still did not get Janneke's correction for our latest PLAY... > Maybe it helps if we all spam Janneke? (I guess she is just very busy..) > However you can all read our Previous PLAY on the page I made: > http://home.casema.nl/mulder74/Igor'sPLAY/PlayPage.HTML > (i hope you can all see it, since it's been giving us some trouble > lately.., right now I cannot update it, > so even if Janneke corrected the last version I could not add it. We are > thinking about getting a domain name for our piggies pages, > anyone have a suggestion for the domain name? we're thinking about > www.winkies.nl or www.winkygang.nl) > > -- > pandameisje at gmail.com > pandameisje at hotmail.com > m.staaks at pecoma.nl > > Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl > kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ > -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com m.staaks at pecoma.nl Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl kleding: http://mist-clothing.blogspot.com/ From Glynis at garnay.com.au Tue Nov 25 23:39:09 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:39:09 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Toofies chattering...... Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092203@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Joanie OH yes i totally agree!!! Toofie chattering can mean so many things. As Dukey was not a wheeker (stopped when his brother Sully passed on) he would chatter his toofies at me in certain ways to get the message across. Most of them always was to do with food, if he was pleased or disgusted in my choice of veggies LOL So enjoy the little precious ones chatters it means she's communicating with you awwwww As for her 'erm butt clipping' i have never had a long haired piggie but i know quite a few on here do so i'm sure they'll advise. Isn't she a good girl to let you clip tho?? If i went near the boys with nail clippers you'd think i was murdering them !!! SIGH....... Love Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Tue Nov 25 23:42:19 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:42:19 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Munchee Plan Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092204@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Well done Kacee, you know my thoughts on this grrrrrrrrrrr Fingers crossed and all my love to the remaining gorgeous Munchees xxxxxxxx Glynis (in mem Sully and Duke ) xxxx From mfug at live.co.uk Wed Nov 26 09:03:27 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:03:27 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge; Mini Message-ID: Corrine and Michael, we are so sorry for the loss of your precious furbaby Mini, there was nothing more you could have done for her, so please dont beat yourselves up. Love to you and the remaining piggies M + Fugly _________________________________________________________________ BigSnapSearch.com - 24 prizes a day, every day - Search Now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ From matildalucet at earthlink.net Wed Nov 26 09:37:11 2008 From: matildalucet at earthlink.net (Ginger Fitzsimmons) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:37:11 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: treats Message-ID: <61D9A07F-F045-4A7E-9DBE-D30CB791F7F6@earthlink.net> Somebody who will go nameless likes to give Kaytee's Healthy Bits to Mr. Mike for a treat. Mike thinks this is delightful and gobbles them up, but they have nuts and seeds in them and I've heard those aren't great for piggies, so I've thought about making treats to substitute. We are sad that Oxbow had to discontinue the Critter Berries. YummyForDogs.org's website has a "Yummy for Rats" recipe that looks like it has potential, but it calls for crushed pecans. Are nuts generally unhealthy for piggers or is it mostly the choking hazard? Because I could pulverize nuts into powder if choking is the issue. Mr. Mike has sampled the "Cinnamon Apple Snacks" I made for a Corgi I know and thinks those are lovely chew toys. My ideal would be a "cookie" that uses the little powdery bits of hay from the bottom of a bag, but I haven't figured out how to bind those together. Yet. :-) -ginger co-slave to Mr. Mike T. Pig avoiding human holiday planning by baking for animals From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Nov 26 11:16:00 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:16:00 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT Munchee plan Message-ID: <89004861E72C4468ADE932E8B6FBD1EC@inspiron1150> Kacee, You must be so sad to have had to part with Karma, Krissee and Kirsten but I am delighted that you have found them a loving home. Maybe you will be able to visit them sometimes. Your Munchee plan is well thought out and I am glad that you have a co-conspirator at your complex to help you out with undercover operations. Damned if I can see what difference it will make to your evil manager if the Munchees are on a table or on the floor. The Piggyfriends have always lived on the floor and the only mess is inside the pens. Oh well.......... Wishing you all the very best with your cunning plan. Paws crossed, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 26 12:48:02 2008 From: jaggs4 at sbcglobal.net (ANDREW SILL) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:48:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Happy Thanksgiving:) from the states Message-ID: <158443.44376.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello everyone and everypiggie, Just wanted to wish everyone a wonderful Thanksgiving day:) Andy and I are flying to AZ to visit our son who has lived there now for 2 years. I don't care to fly, but sure beats driving for? 2 days ( we did that one time not fun) We are going to see the grand canyon and the painted desert:) He has so many things planned for us.. My daughter and son in law will be in charge of the 14 misfits They will be staying here at my house as its easier that way... I have told them during the week that we are gone.. if they have any questions at all they can ask you fellow piggies lovers here on the Internet.. :) I am sure everything will be just fine.. but you never know with piggies.. and we have a range of ages... Our sympathies to anyone who has lost a beloved furbaby?as it seems I have?read alot of them are crossing? the bridge lately?and our healing wishes and?hugs?to all who have a sick little piggie.. we are still dealing with little Alainas abcess on her neck.. we thought we were done with it. but turned out it needed opening agin. and daily flushing twice a day. Taking her to vet?on friday morning at 830am ?to be checked before we leave?at noon, and hoping she will be fine while we are gone. Sure love that little girl. she is such a sweet heart.. Take care fellow piggie lovers. Jean and Andy and the 14 misfits.? ? From warmbreath at comcast.net Wed Nov 26 14:33:48 2008 From: warmbreath at comcast.net (warmbreath) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:33:48 -0800 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Munchee plan References: <9B4181F0FD23584AAC347E64493AB4DD1295B11332@NADCWPMSGCMS08.hca.corpad.net> Message-ID: be absolutely sure all the stuff from cage changes gets into strong plastic bags and closed tightly, that's how my daughter got caught, she just took the cage out and dumped in the dumpster Sandy and Manny the Boar and his pet Little Pig From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 26 19:40:27 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:40:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] BEHAVIOR: Piggie speak to my stomach Message-ID: <380970.99789.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've got a head cold that's rendered me unable to make guinea noises and carry on a decent conversation with Hershey. She gave me extra cuddles, and when my stomach growled in a squeaky way, she answered it. It made me realize how important our "verbal" communication has become. I love that piggie. She made me feel so much better. Always does in different ways. Aren't piggies awesome? Her grateful slave, Joanie From dfhakes at aol.com Thu Nov 27 12:18:43 2008 From: dfhakes at aol.com (Dana Felice) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:18:43 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Treats Message-ID: <001801c950b4$3357feb0$9a07fc10$@com> Dear Mr. Mike, Tell your mommy that whee really like the treats from American Pet Diner. They are like guinea pig cookies, or biscuits if you are an English pig. Whee hope that you are an English pig because whee like they way you wheek. Mommy gives us a treat twice a week because we are ladies and whee have to watch our waistlines. Penny Lucy & Mina From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Nov 28 08:55:51 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:55:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: MINI Message-ID: <993099.45885.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Corrine & Michael: Oh...I am so terribly sorry that you have lost Mini.? I am just trying to catch up on the posts and feel terrible that so soon after losing Peppermint, your Mini has departed for the Bridge. It's always difficult to lose these babies so close in time to one another.? I lost my Abbie on November 25, 2006 and my Annie on December 25, 2006!? I guess the only consolation you can have about losing Mini is that she went quickly.? It's harder for you, but better for the pig.? I think suffering is so much worse than death. I know you will miss Mini as you do Peppermint, and this is a sad time for you so just know that I'm sending you a hug from New York and special thoughts for your healing. Rest in Peace, Mini. With sympathy & sadness, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie At the Bridge and missed:? Annie, Abbie, and Monkee If a man aspires towards a righteous life, his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals. - Leo Tolstoy From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Nov 28 09:02:46 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:02:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: New Piggy Hut Message-ID: <203204.51915.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Friends! I bought my cats a canvas cat hut the a few weeks ago and my kitty Curry took over.? He wouldn't let anyone in or near it.? However, suddenly, it sat and sat and not one of my (5) cats would go in.? They simply had no interest in it. So, I put extra cushion on the bottom and put in into the girls' piggy cage.? Well, they LOVE it!!! In fact, very often all 4 of them snuggle in it together. I'm just sharing this to let you know what a nice addition a cat hut can make to a piggy place. Hugs to all of our piggies on the digest! Joanne Spicy ~ Merri ~ Macie ~ Teddy ~ Baci & Sweetie who has a crush on Bertie Pig of NC!!!! If a man aspires towards a righteous life, his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals. - Leo Tolstoy From Algernon07 at aol.com Fri Nov 28 22:55:04 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:55:04 EST Subject: [Gpdd] Bridge: Mini Message-ID: The Piggy Pirates and I are very sad that you've lost your little Mini. We've been through five losses and know that it's never less painful. You have, however, given a piggy a good home for her/his time here on earth. That meas so very much. Alge and Crew ************** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity& ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) From aliciavanmaanen at hotmail.com Sat Nov 29 00:04:52 2008 From: aliciavanmaanen at hotmail.com (Alicia VanMaanen) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:04:52 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Squeakers is Gone Message-ID: It is with a saddened heart that I left everyone know that my dear little Squeakers who was only 5 months has crossed the bridge Friday, November 28th. I found him Wednesday with something strange hanging out his butt and with the vet closed nothing to do until today. The vet said he wasn't quite sure what it could totally be without operating and that a flushing wouldn't do the trick. It was severally infected and he even though whatever was hanging out could be his penis and he'd never be the same again anyways. He stopped eating anything Thanksgiving and refused water too. I knew it was the best for him to help him cross the bridge so I sat there holding him while he crossed over this morning. It was the hardest thing to do especially with my husband 3 hours away at his mom's for the weekend. I'll never forget my dear baby and the joy he brought me for those 5 months. I'll miss him yelling in the morning for veggies and when I got home from work. I assumed he'd outlive Sailor Willie who'll be 7 next year but I guess somethings we are wrong. I do know that he's running free on the other side of the bridge with all of the others that we miss so dearly. Wheeks and tears, Alicia slave to Sailor Willie "remembering Squeakers" _________________________________________________________________ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ From dawndastricklen at yahoo.com Sat Nov 29 11:25:52 2008 From: dawndastricklen at yahoo.com (Dawnda Stricklen) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:25:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Re: Therapy Pigs? Message-ID: <311793.12026.qm@web52301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Joanie It is a good idea on a paper. They are good for therapy. I know my Dexter helped me through my divorce. There are some people on the gpdd with health problems and handicaps that I know the guinea pigs help. Let me know if you need me to write a little story for you. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com From joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 29 14:12:42 2008 From: joanhess4 at sbcglobal.net (GARY HESS) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:12:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: Squeakers Message-ID: <370262.78820.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm so sorry you had to see young Squeakers off all by yourself and on a holiday weekend, no less. That is really SAD. Please accept my condolences and prayers for your broken heart and for Sailor Willy, who's probably missing all that wonderful squeaking, too. I'm so glad our little (and not-so-little) friends' memories and spirits cross over unchanged, that we will recognize each other when we join them at The Bridge. Something that precious and vibrant and unique was meant to last forever. If I didn't believe that, my life from childhood on would have been lived in despair. Joanie From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Nov 29 13:31:46 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:31:46 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge; Squeakers Message-ID: Alicia we are so sorry little Squeakers has gone to the bridge, they are never here long enough but 5 months doesnt seem fair, my heart is breaking for you. M From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Nov 29 13:15:36 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:15:36 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Scamps site and Play Message-ID: Mieke, The Piggyfriends would like to cast a vote ( or several ) for www.winkygang.nl for your domain name. It must be very sad to have to add so many lost piggies to the Scamps page so we would like to thank you for undertaking this task. We are all happy when a new name is added because we are pleased when a piggy makes it to the magic age of five. We love the PLAY stories so we hope that Janneke has time to update it soon. Wheeks to the Winky pigs. Gulliver, spokespig for the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Nov 29 14:53:00 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:53:00 -0000 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE Squeakers Message-ID: Alicia, I was so saddened to read your post about dear little Squeakers. What a terrible thing to have happened and to such a little babe. I cannot imagine what occurred but it is always the way, the vets are closed when you really need them. I know how much both you and Sailor Willie are going to miss this little man and we all send our most sincere condolences to you both. With our deepest sympathy, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From rzm.2 at juno.com Sat Nov 29 20:49:32 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:49:32 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20081129.174932.26333.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Alicia- I'm very sorry to hear about Squeekers. I can't really say what could have been wrong with the little guy without more detail. I'm sorry you didn't have more time together. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. ~Jaime, Mimi & Daisy~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2eRIUFnrJHHOnFoCdHP01TgC8ZdI4z0wu0bkDSFUob1M5KW/ From dukejan1 at aol.com Sat Nov 29 22:42:06 2008 From: dukejan1 at aol.com (dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:42:06 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Re: Squeakers Message-ID: <8CB20B4C04DF1C6-554-115A@FWM-M14.sysops.aol.com> Alicia, I'm so terribly sorry to hear of Squeakers' crossing over the Bridge.? Five months is so young and yet it is a tremendous amount of time in which to bond with a piggie.? My heartfelt sympathy to you and Sailor Willie. Janet, slave to Isabel, Lily, and Luke From jimmarg.lynn at att.net Sun Nov 30 09:15:54 2008 From: jimmarg.lynn at att.net (Jim and Margaret Lynn) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:15:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge Message-ID: <575239.3886.qm@web82506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Alicia, ? I was so sorry to hear about the passing of your little Squeakers.? It is always difficult especially when they are so young and just beginning to experience life in this big world.? Be assured that he is? munching clover and parsley on the other side of the Rainbow Bridge and is happily playing with all of our departed fuzzy friends.? He was lucky to have you as a slave as he has now crossed the Bridge to begin a new and happy life free of pain and suffering.? My condolences. ? Jim.........and Olivia From juwles at bigpond.com Sun Nov 30 07:20:54 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:20:54 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Squeakers is Gone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1F36E3A63BC74584B134BEB871B13779@JuliePC> Dear Alicia I am so sorry for your loss of little Squeakers. Whatever the problem was, the fact that he had stopped eating or drinking meant he was ready and needing to be helped to a peaceful place where he wouldn't feel sick any more. You are indeed a very devoted, and very brave slave. My heart goes out to you and I pray you find comfort, knowing Squeakers is no longer suffering but now living in eternity. Julie and her precious boys (Donald, Wheeky, Joey, Kimba) Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie and Brandy forever in my heart and soul and desperately missed From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sun Nov 30 22:29:03 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:29:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Squeakers Message-ID: <226951.88043.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Alicia: I am so sorry to hear about young Squeakers!? It's so painful to have these sweet little souls leave us, but doubly difficult when they are so young.? Our only consolation is to know that they are not in any pain and waiting for us when our time is up. Please know that I am thinking of you and sending you a hug from New York. "Rest in Peace, Squeakers"... Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie Forever in my heart: Annie, Abbie, and Monkee If a man aspires towards a righteous life, his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals. - Leo Tolstoy From Glynis at garnay.com.au Sun Nov 30 22:54:13 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:54:13 +1100 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Condolences for Squeakers Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923092222@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Dear Alicia and Sailor Willie i was stunned to read about little Squeakers :o( RIP Squeakers run free at the bridge little man, i'm sure the older piggies will be looking after you and showing you the best green grass and dandelion patches to munch in, you will be so sadly missed but NEVER forgotten xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))) and lots of love from me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh Alicia what a shock for you love i'm sorry HUGS xxxxxxxxxxxx Five months this little guy was with you both, in that time he won your heart, and ours here too.