From DebJonSara at aol.com Sun Jun 1 04:48:59 2008 From: DebJonSara at aol.com (DebJonSara at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 04:48:59 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] [MISCELLANEOUS] Two questions that have been bugging me Message-ID: When one gets my side of 50, one becomes more and more forgetful, and there are two piggie issues that have been bugging me. As you may know, we have helpers here from all over the world, and I try to educate them as much as I can about piggies - I kind of see it as one of my roles in life! Now I always tell them one must not give piggies wet veggies. I am pretty sure I read on here once that one must not feed wet veggies to guinea pigs. If one washes the veggies before serving them, one has to dry them off first. Now, have I mis-remembered this, or is it true, and if it is true, what is the reason?? I tell helpers they mustn't feed wet veggies to the Dolly Mixtures, and often they ask why, and I just have to shrug and admit I can't remember. And the other question - a few months ago, I heard on the radio news on the way to work that scientists had made a breakthrough in breeding the first ever mouse that could catch the common cold. They made a really big thing of the fact that there had previously been no laboratory animal that could catch the common cold, and now that they had bred one, there would be a lot more research done and perhaps a cure would at last be found. I had to check whether it was 1st April, but it wasn't! I am sure it's common knowledge in the piggie community that our masters can catch colds from their slaves. I always avoid handling any of mine if I have so much as a sniffle for that very reason. But could this just be a myth? Or do piggies develop URI's from contamination from our cold germs which are not exactly like human colds? Wheeks to all piggies and slaves from France Debbie From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Sun Jun 1 03:11:07 2008 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:11:07 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] Message-ID: Hi Dana, Thank you for informing me. I'm getting very worried here, ever since I received the bill for the egg-card (it's a good thing suus has a job as a lawn architect) i'm really wondering what they did. The girls arent telling me anything either and Igor had to leave early to help Fugly set up the bachelor party in france so he had no time to question them. All I know I that they slept an awfull lot ever since they came home. But i'm wondering....I still remember that time when the girls went to a club and Igor ended up with all those dollarbills between his curls. Our girls are no angels either... I guess they werent telling anything because they didnt want to give the boys an excuse to misbehave (as if that matters....tsssk... they are very good at doing that on their own accord ;-) ) Worried Slave Janneke and innocent looking yaya and suus. _________________________________________________________________ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl From bubblecuddle at aol.co.uk Sun Jun 1 12:57:51 2008 From: bubblecuddle at aol.co.uk (bubblecuddle at aol.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:57:51 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; Boars Wheekend Message-ID: <8CA921FC3724BB3-15B0-3FEC@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> well I woke up this morning to find that my mini lawnmower aka Fugly was downstairs sound asleep, he had a big grin on his face and was something about "riviera" and "oh la la" not sure we will ever know everything that went on. Dont worry Princess and Teddy I will make sure he is recovered and presentable for the wedding. Before the wedding he will be paying of his egg card debts by "mowing" my back lawn, this could take him a long time. As his beloved Samanthas slave is still unwell it looks like she wont make it to the wedding so if any girls out there would like a boy to accompany them in a friends only way Fugly would be more than happy to do that. M ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 1 13:04:51 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [MISCELLANEOUS] Two questions that have been bugging me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <863979.13935.qm@web39503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Deb. I certainly understand the certain side of 50 you're talking about! Wet veggies. What you might be thinking is that when you bring the vegs home you wash them throughly then dry them for storage so they won't go bad as quickly, but when actually feeding they should be wet for additional water. This is the only way Lady Bug has been getting water for almost three years. She refuses to drink water at all. I'm no scientist so can't give you specific data but humans can pass bacteria and some viruses to animals but I'm not sure the uri our piggys get is the same as a cold in a human. Some germs can be passed both ways. Joan/Lady Bug From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sun Jun 1 19:31:49 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (Joanne Colangelo) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 16:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Princess Snowflake to wed Teddy Message-ID: <771317.68280.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi friends!!! Teddy is counting the days until his beloved Princess Snowflake becomes his bride! He's all ready! He sent the lovely PS a list of places to pick for their honeymoon and can't wait to find out where she'd like to visit. Perhaps it'll be Loveland, Colorado? Tuxedo, New York? Snowflake, Arizona? Salt Lick, Kentucky? Kissimmee, Florida? Hayden, Arizona? New Guinea off Australia or Guinea in Western Africa!!! We're all very excited to welcome Princess Snowflake into our family! Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, and foster piggy, Sweetie, too! P.S.: My three sows have welcomed Sweetie into their quarters with open paws! Don't buy while shelter animals die! Adopt a pet. From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Jun 1 20:25:57 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:25:57 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, Widget Message-ID: <48433E15.5000905@geeksnet.com> Marielle, please accept our very belated condolences on Widget's passing. We are so very sorry that he had a difficult last month; since our Tumbleweed has been sick since April, we definitely understand. We also know how awful it can be for a piggie to have teeth problems. We hope you know that you did all your best for Widget and that he understood how much you loved him. How touching to hear that he would groom himself despite being so close to going to the Bridge; obviously he wanted to look his best for his trip. Thank you for sharing some of your memories of him. It was particularly sweet to read of how he comforted his friend, Schocki, when Schocki was gravely ill. Widget and Schocki were both so lucky to be part of your family. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Sun Jun 1 20:41:54 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:41:54 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, Nani Alice Message-ID: <484341D2.3090809@geeksnet.com> Ruth, it was with much sadness that we read of Nani Alice's passing. We are so very sorry that she was fine in the morning and then suddenly gone. Sometimes piggie passings remain a mystery. We are glad, though, that she was able to share three happy years with you. How lucky she was that you solved her lice problem and that she had such a good friend in Babu Franklin. It was so sweet to hear of how she was the official spokespig for the two and of how her hair would grow so wildly. She must have had fun thinking of different hair styles to try out for herself. Please know that Nani Alice knew how much you loved her, and please accept our very belated condolences. We also want to say how touching it was to read that you are allergic to piggies and found a new family for Babu. They sound wonderful, and how great that he will have three piggie friends there. It is also such a testament to your love and commitment to him that you will pay his future vet bills. We hope he is enjoying his new home, and we commend you for being so selfless in thinking of his needs. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Mon Jun 2 01:52:06 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:52:06 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Only Four More Days 'til the Wedding!!! Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! Princess Snowflake here. Sorry I haven't written in a while. Wedding Planning is so Time Consuming. But, everything is coming together as planned. I had my last fitting for my Wedding attire last wheeeekend and I get to pick that up in a couple of days. I am sooooooo Excited!!! I can't believe that this is really happening to me. I feel like the Luckiest Piggie in the world...Wheeeeeek! Teddy sent me some Wonderful gifties and I finished my shopping yesterday and I get wrap up his pressies later tonight. Ooooooooh, he is so Dreamy... I am counting down the days (on my paws) 'til this Friday, June 6th!!!! I LOVE my Darlin' Teddy Bear!!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeeps, Princess Snowflake :-) From Bellarobi at aol.com Mon Jun 2 12:54:24 2008 From: Bellarobi at aol.com (Bellarobi at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:54:24 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Miscellaneous -feeding wet veggies Message-ID: Hi Debbie, regarding feeding wet veggies, I know that it is not recommended to feed grass or dandelion leaves when they are picked in the rain or still wet with dew. It can cause bloating and diarrhea. You want to dry them before giving them to your guinea pigs. For those of you who would like to take a look at my children's (and adults) book on guinea pigs please go to _www.Bellarobi.com_ (http://www.Bellarobi.com) Best wishes, Marion Robison **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From suzy at dunser.com Mon Jun 2 16:24:20 2008 From: suzy at dunser.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suzy_D=FCnser?=) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:24:20 +1200 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE Re. wet veggies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Deb, I've heard both sides of the wet veggie thing as well - my Austrian mother-in-law told me I couldn't feed the bunnies wet grass or they'd get sick, but I also heard the opposite, that the more water you get into them, the better. And, like Joan, I have a guinea pig who has no interest in his water bottle. Both my bunnies and piggies have always gotten their veggies wet (admittedly "always" for me is less than 3 years), and they seem to do fine with that. Cheers and wheeks from Suzy and Rocky and Cocoa in our hearts From calliope at geeksnet.com Mon Jun 2 22:40:02 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:40:02 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, The Dowager Lady Samantha Message-ID: <4844AF02.4020801@geeksnet.com> Laura, Breton, Elspeth, Jud, and the Fluffernutters, we send our very belated condolences on the passing of The Dowager Lady Samantha. It was with much sadness that we read of how she declined over the course of a week and then left for the Bridge. However, we are so glad that she was with her three friends when she made her final journey; we know they comforted her. Please know that she was so lucky you rescued her when her original owners abandoned her at the vet's. You obviously gave her the strength to make it through her surgeries and illnesses. And, although we are never ready to say goodbye, it is wonderful that she lived to be somewhere between five to seven years. How sweet to hear of how friendly she was and of how she made an appearance in Leah's book. We know that Sami was so glad to be a beloved member of your family, and we are sure that she was met at the Bridge by many friends, both old and new. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Mon Jun 2 23:13:04 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:13:04 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [ Silly]Wedding plans, Manny to dearest Peaches References: Message-ID: <00cb01c8c527$be296740$4f9bc0ac@SANDY> My Dearest Peaches, my love. Boy did whee have fun on our wheekend Boars party, I can only hope you had as much fun Little Cap'n Jack was late you know, and in order to meet up with us he parachuted from his PigAir flight, in a multicolored parachute over the Eiffel Tower, I sat the top to meet him as he had texted me, Then whee both rappelled down the whole tower waving to the crowds and screaming out Vive la France'. Since whee were both wearing Bermuda shorts and Hawaiian shirts with baseball caps people would yell out "crazy Americans" plus Cap'n Jack had fashioned the parachute as a great billowing cape, what a star! I must say even Igor and Fugley were speechless, what a riot!. But don't tell anyone here cause whee all agreed not to tell, but I cant resist But now my mommy slave is in full wedding prep, today my digs were scrubbed out with vinegar which I thought was bad enough but then she started scrubbing me, I smell like a baby!! Nails clipped, final fittings for my tux, lessons on bowing,packing, reminders on how to seat guests, brides side, grooms side, press gallery, how to do pat searches for illegal cameras, all manners of manners, etiquette , which fork, etc., working on my toasts. and dancing lessons, Oh! my dear, Peaches, I cant wait to sweep you up in my arms for a grand waltz, but also some line dancing, two step, and the hustle!!! My poor feetsies!!!! Does she think I don't know how to tuck your paw in my arm for the grand procession, and small talk and paw shaking for the receiving line, how to address the royal couple, egad last wheekend Teddy was skinny dipping on the French Riviera, and now its Sir, this, your Lordship that!! Oh! and I'm sure Cap'n Jack is getting this training too, but whee promised to keep an eye on him, no Frisbee with the ring pillow!! I will stop by and pick you up so whee can arrive together, my precious. But whee will have a great time just to be with you again makes it all worth while, my love!! I'm sure you will catch the brides royal bouquet! Whee will have some time too talk and walk, just us! And I have a special little gift for you, sweetheart, I want it to be a surprise but don't choose a necklace, and I got us matching monogrammed lace handkerchiefs for the inevitable tears or spills, and your favorite lace glove to match, they go all up your arm, brrrrr! You will be a vision in pink, I can't wait!! Until then my love Your Boar, Manny From Algernon07 at aol.com Tue Jun 3 03:08:39 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 03:08:39 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: 2 female guinea pigs in Lancaster, Ohio area Message-ID: Hi All, Apparently the Christmas guinea pigs were not a suitable gift for a developmentally impaired child. Their little scratches are perceived as hurting (and they do hurt of course tho I think that baby nails are the sharpest) and so Captain Jack's Momma and her cage mate, the other female purchased as a Christmas gift for the child, are in need of a home -- or homes. I understand they are very nice pigs and have been well cared for. Dana's signature line about bunnies says it all. I think that supplies, etc. possibly including cage will go with them. If anyone in this geneal area (which is probably 35 or 40 miles SE of Columbus, Ohio,) please contact me and i will put you in touch. I always feel bad when this sort of thing happens with piggies and we know how often it does happen. Alge and Captain Jack ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From Algernon07 at aol.com Tue Jun 3 03:53:35 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 03:53:35 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Lynn Message-ID: His All, This will be entirely too brief but I need to let everyone know that Lynn, Samantha and Tabitha's Slave, has not abandoned us, but is yet recovering, and, of course, missing us! Merely healing is requiring much of her energy and of course there are the other daily things that must be remastered. I would give a fuller update, but it is 3:35 AM, and I must get to bed. But the digest and its members are very much in her mind, thoughts and heart. Alge and that daredevil Captain Jack <----- maybe I should have named him Sabastian G. Pigg! It's a more settled and sedate name, but, as it goes, he is living up to his Capt'n Jack image. I think he believes himself to be a pirate. (Thanks Manny for meeting him!) He sure loves his "mates" as he calls his buddies. ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 3 09:29:18 2008 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:29:18 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [MISCELLANEOUS] Two questions that have been bugging me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Debbie RE: Question about can gp's catch colds from their owners Vedra at the Cambridge Cavy Trust told me that guinea pigs can get coughs and colds from their owners and that if I was ill with one, I should stay away from them. She even told me that at the time, she was taking care of about 3 or 4 gp's who had caught really bad colds from their owns and were having to be syringe fed as they were finding it hard to swallow while their glands were up. Kind regards Carole From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Tue Jun 3 16:28:43 2008 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:28:43 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Message-ID: Hey Deb (and others ;-) ), Sorry, I got a bit nerdy when you asked your question... I did a quick search in Pubmed (medical database; i'm a information specialist/librarian nowadays) I combined the official search term for the common cold and limited it to animal research. Next i further specified that search by adding the offical search term for guinea pigs. That got me 12 articles that did common cold research on guinea pigs (mostly vitamin C related). So, obviously, they know about guinea pigs being able to catch a cold. Then I did the same, but replaced the guinea pigs term for the mice term. That got me 21 articles. So... the problem is, that i do not have the medical background to fully interpret all the articles (that common cold stuff is pretty complicated..pfff). Nor do I have full access to the articles. What I do understand is that there are several strains of viruses ..eh.. *thinkthink* .. So I did a websearch on your news and found this: http://biotech.about.com/b/2008/02/06/gm-mice-aid-common-cold-research.htm ... So this confirms the news, AND they actually got it published in a legit journal (It has a doi, I dont have full access at home, but I think they got it published in nature. which is an important scientific journal) As I understand it, colds can be caused by several strains of viruses. A common one for primates is the rhinovirus and this one cannot cause a cold for most non-primates. But there are others out there.. (and I cannot find what they mean with most non-primates.. are our piggies the exception?) Dont pin me down on this, but these are my 2 cents.. Janneke _________________________________________________________________ Check je Hotmail nu ook op je mobiel! http://windowslivemobile.msn.com/BrowserServiceHotmail.aspx?lang=nl-nl From Glynis at garnay.com.au Wed Jun 4 01:05:23 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:05:23 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [VIRTUAL] Boars Wheekend Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923091D75@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Hi Granny erm *shuffles tootsies* erm i've been having such a good time i've not had time to write you a letter, just the odd text, hope you're not cross with me.... I had a wonderful time and before you ask, yes Igor helped clean my eyes more than 3 times a day they're the best they've been in ages... he was very careful and offered to do so at the wedding too, i agreed!! and i took all my meds and didn't make too much of a mess i did shake my head a few times and get it over everyone but they all laughed LOL i copped poor Fugly once right on the nose he looked totally bewildered and then ended up laughing so much he peed !! The Eiffel Tower was HUGE i was going to climb it but i thought i better keep my energy for the wedding and dancing with my beloved Lady Bug SIGH.... xxxxx she's soooo pretty.... I don't know if you have heard but the younger boys were nearly set upon by these weird people yelling out 'rats' i have no idea why they said that, i didn't see any rats i wouldn't want to see any as they've got very very big toofies eeeeek Anyway they all climbed to the top and i was busy taking pigtures when the next thing i saw was PigAir fly over and out jumped Captn. Jack oooooo he is one very clever piggie you should've seen the way he glided in and then they helped him on to the tower and then he and Manny repelled down the side i've got a great video of them i'll show it to the girls at the wedding. The Dolly Mixtures we so kind and had the most magnificent food there was loads of it, of all kinds i'm not sure how their slave managed it but she had food from all over the world!!!! She was lovely we all got cuddles and lap time with her and lots of strokes so we'd not miss our slaves, thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxx and granny i didn't disgrace myself on her lap either. I decided to stay on with Fugly and the PiggyFriends and the Piggy Porcelains they're all showing me around the UK, it is a lovely place but they said it was nearly summer but granny all it's doing is raining.... i'm trying to work out how to send some of it down to you as i know we need it for my grass. I'm not going thru that tunnel thing tho i didn't like the idea of not being able to eat for that long.. so PigAir organising a special flight for a few of us to zip us back to the US in time for the wedding. I'm going to go see Lady Bug and Joan and pick her up, i have saved the special roses (shhhhh don't say which ones granny) just for her, mind you i had to hide them as a few of the boys were excited one night after some drinking and decided to play games on us all and go thru our luggage and mix it all up... my towels ended up in Teddy's bag and he thought that was really funny as he was trying to work out what to do with them, i showed him the trick of how to grab a towel and drag it under a pigloo so it kept you warm LOL I better go now granny, please don't worry i'm being looked after really really well by all my special friends and their lovely slaves. I wish one day that you too could come and meet them as they too have soft hands and whisper in my ear and kiss my ears too not quite like you but it's still nice. Miss you heaps, wheeeeeeeeeeek give that noisy Tommy bird a hello from me too, Your Dukey boy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx p.s. can i have some more money put on my Egg Card please.... xxx Glynis Robson From pamrod9542 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 4 08:41:51 2008 From: pamrod9542 at sbcglobal.net (Pamela Rodgers) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 05:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Birthday boy Message-ID: <166460.90950.qm@web82501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Piggie Amos is 5 years old today, time to celebrate !!!!! Pam slave to Amos From texg at cavyinfo.com Wed Jun 4 10:28:44 2008 From: texg at cavyinfo.com (texg at cavyinfo.com) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:28:44 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RESCUE: EMERGENCY ALERT: Piggie foster home needed in NYC, Queens Message-ID: <20080604102844.7k3lzdla800ckwww@www.cavyinfo.com> This just came to my inbox: From: lstn2myhrt at aol.com Hi there, I found a guinea pig in my neighborhood and I am hoping you could direct me to where I can take this animal a shelter or a rescue facility PLEASE contact me as soon as you receive this e-mail I have a dog and I am keeping them separated I found the pig yesterday 6/3/08 and need to bring it to a shelter I live in N.Y.C. Queens area and I am hoping you have the information I am looking for Thank-You Cathy lstn2myhrt at aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If anyone can take the piggie, or knows of a rescue facility in NY, please contact her directly (cc me, ok?) Thanks! Tex From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 10:03:52 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 07:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Birthday boy In-Reply-To: <166460.90950.qm@web82501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <971046.55791.qm@web39507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Lady Bug and I would like to wish a very happy treat filled birthday to Amos. May he have many more to come. Joan/Lady Bug From piggyfriends at tesco.net Wed Jun 4 11:21:19 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:21:19 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE Birthday Boy. Message-ID: <005601c8c656$aa9b7120$0202a8c0@inspiron1150> Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear Amos, Happy Birthday to yooooouuuuu!!!! Many Happy Returns of the Day from Penny and the Piggyfriends, raising glasses of carrot wine on your honour. From calliope at geeksnet.com Wed Jun 4 20:44:42 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:44:42 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, Will Message-ID: <484736FA.7030803@geeksnet.com> Suze, Rocky, and Feef, we are so very sorry to hear of Will's passing; please accept our very belated condolences. We definitely understand everything he went through, since our Tumbleweed lost a tooth last year and got an infection which we didn't discover until a couple of months ago. We are still fighting it. Please know that you did all you could for Will, as did your wonderful petsitter. Teeth problems can be so difficult to treat, and our hearts go out to you. You did the right thing in helping him to the Bridge when he no longer felt like moving or eating his Critical Care. He was so lucky that you were so observant and aware of his health and that you loved him so much. Thank you for sharing some of your memories of him; how sweet that he so calmly put up with the shenanigans of his younger brothers. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 21:36:17 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: common cold Message-ID: <910656.92958.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My heart-piggy ANNIE got sick when I had a very bad cold.  Sadly, she quickly died, leaving me heart-broken and wondering if I had somehow passed on my virus to her.  I asked a guinea pig person who writes a column in an animal related newspaper and she said that guinea pigs CANNOT get a cold from us. I'd really love to know if this is true because it always makes me sad to think that my beloved ANNIE died because of me. Now whenever I'm sick...I don't go near the pigs except to do a quick food/water/hay visit! Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy the groom tomorrow!, Baci, and Sweetie the foster Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 5 01:23:35 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:23:35 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: My Hubby-to-be, Teddy will be here soon!!! Message-ID: My Beautiful Bride: Tomorrow morning I have a 9:00 am flight and should reach NC by 11am. If it's okay with you, I'd like to take a taxi to visit you after I settle myself in the hotel. I am staying at the Wheeks Inn. I can't believe how close our wedding day is! I am so excited that I just can't sleep and am keeping my brother and sisters awake all day and all night. I'll see you tomorrow, my love! Forever yours, Teddy *************************************************************************************** Oooooooooh, my Wonderful Hubby-to-be... I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight. But, if I do manage to fall asleep, I will Dream about YOU and about the Life we are going to share together. I cannot believe that you'll be here tomorrow morning. Hurry, my Love. I know exactly where the Wheeks Inn is, it's only 10 minutes away from our apartment. I will call you on your cellie in the morning. I Love You, Sweetheart. Yours Forever and Always, Princess Snowflake :-) From Algernon07 at aol.com Thu Jun 5 03:15:59 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:15:59 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Amos Message-ID: Happy Birthday Amos. We boars are all still traveling but we want to wish you a very special day. Captain Jack and his great new friends! ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From Algernon07 at aol.com Thu Jun 5 03:46:54 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:46:54 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Need Dana's Address / Off topic Message-ID: Hi All, Isn't our Florida House Rabbit Society Person's name Dana Hanks? I cannot find her email address. Friends of my daughter's rescued 4 baby wild rabbits (read: prevented dog from killing them after it already killed mother rabbit and 1 baby) and my daughter now has those 4 remaining babies. They have fur & teeth (are they born with fur? I thought not??) and are about the size of a small 2 or 3 week old baby GP? Question -- how to help these babies survive? Daughter has bought some kind of special milk product, even kitten size nurser bottles are too large so she's using an eye dropper and trying to cut up veggies in tiny pieces, I.e. slivers. I've thought about soaking pellets and offering them. She also has clover in with them. All help and advice welcome. These helpless little animals are so adorable and so fragile. Their ears are unbelievably tiny. They are so vulnerable. My daughter says they are livlier todya than last pm so maybe something is going right. Many thanks, Alge and the bunnies 4 ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Thu Jun 5 06:39:18 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:39:18 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [OFFTOPIC] Re: Need Dana's Address / Off topic References: Message-ID: <041e01c8c6f8$696561a0$4f9bc0ac@SANDY> Dear Alge, the house rabbit society does not take wild rabbits, they are a different species from domestic buns, so your friend should call the local Humane Society and see if there are any wildlife rescuers, rehabbers in her area BTW Maryland/ DC HRS is Dana F Hakes and Florida is Dana Krempels who heads the HRS and runs etherbun.org, the listserve that's for buns like GPDD except its all business, no personal or silly or virtual, and they have Vets and Vet techs, and rescuers that answer the questions as well as yours truly, the most junior, who tries the simpler ones that come up at night mainly, but screws up following the rules allot, darn that ADD. As I said they are very large and business like what with the professionals so they do medical, behavioral, housing, feeding etc, but not babies as we advocate house rabbits without breeders. We do have a website with some info for accidental litters, its at www.rabbit.org/ and found babies here http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/orphan.html , and newborns here http://www.rabbit.org/care/newborn.html baby buns supply places http://www.rabbit.org/links/mail-order-resources.htmland Dana is at DFHAKES at aol.com Good luck Sandy and Manny the Boar From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 5 10:12:49 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:12:49 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wed, June 4, 2008 Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! Check out Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wednes, June 4, 2008: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/guinea-pig-blog-june0408.aspx Also, if you have missed any of the previous posts, you can see them at: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/leah-default.aspx ENJOY!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake :-) From MFug at live.co.uk Thu Jun 5 09:25:19 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:25:19 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; off topic Message-ID: Hi guys just to let you know for some reason aol have lost my account in the ether so if anyone has emailed me in the last few days sorry but I wont have received it. Could someone do me a favour and email me the gpdd for Weds as I have not had this, have now set up so gpdd comes to the new email address which is MFug at live.co.uk so hopefully will get todays gpdd ok. Thanks in advance M + Fugly (who desperately needs to know what is going on) ps a while ago someone mentioned they were saving transcripts of Dukes party and cavaret as I have lost my email account I have lost all my piggy messages so if that person does have the transcripts can they forward them to me. Thanks From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jun 5 11:09:12 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:09:12 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC-message from Birdie Message-ID: <20080605.080912.27548.1@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Hey all! Just wanted to let everyone know I heard from Birdie & she said to tell everyone "hi" & that she is doing ok. Her posts to the digest have been bouncing back to her & not showing up on here & she didn't want everyone to think she forgot about them! She hopes to be back on soon. Take care everyone! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Click here to choose from a huge selection of shipping supplies! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3n4ViVcJ3EMNkBDHP4YbeamUuzMPbyUkn5twMXjk8dPCnvxU/ From rzm.2 at juno.com Thu Jun 5 11:34:38 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:34:38 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- birthday boy! Message-ID: <20080605.083438.27548.3@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Happy birthday Amos! May you have many, many more! ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Save on Moving Supplies. Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oij8nYs1NGLhGUiPhxQNG1dHDKlmlSzlWK2XR1hAyAqZmhI/ From kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk Thu Jun 5 12:56:59 2008 From: kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk (Dr Kay Dudman) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:56:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Gpdd] [health] piggy bleeding - possible operation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I remember someone saying that their mature piggy was bleeding and might need to be spayed although they were worried that her age might be a problem. I am sorry if I have missed any recent correspondence on this, but I would recommend going ahead with the surgery. If your piggy is passing blood, there is a problem somewhere which is not likely to get better by itself. It could be ovarian cysts, or it could be a pyometrium (like an abscess in the uterus). I have had mature lady piggies spayed for just such reasons and they have come out very well (one was 6 years old, and lived another 18 months). What I would recommend is asking the vet to use a gaseous anaesthetic (isoflurane is good) and *not* injectable anaesthetics (the problem here is that these linger in the body, whereas the gas is breathed out and it's gone). Important things to watch are that your piggy eats well after surgery and passes faecal pellets; any problems here could indicate GI stasis, which means the gut needs to be stimulated (sometimes metocloprimide is used) and something like fibreplex or yogurt to repopulate the gut with healthy bacteria. Hope this helps with the decision, Kay Companies Act 2006 : http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/companyinfo From calliope at geeksnet.com Thu Jun 5 15:02:45 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:02:45 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Amos Message-ID: <48483855.5060402@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish a very Happy 5th Birthday to Amos! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From anifair at comcast.net Thu Jun 5 16:09:05 2008 From: anifair at comcast.net (Anita Fair) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:09:05 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL---The Wedding Message-ID: Beanie here---Yay! My dress fits again and my sore is all healed. Nuttie of course, is so fat her dress may have to be let out. We will be in Charlotte soon---hope it's not too hot! From DFHAKES at aol.com Thu Jun 5 15:54:31 2008 From: DFHAKES at aol.com (DFHAKES at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:54:31 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: The Wedding/Charlotte arrival Message-ID: Glad to hear that Penny arrived safely, but where are those juvenile delinquents Lucy & Mina? I hope they didn't meet up with any single boars. Regards, Dana Felice Chapter Manager Tampa Bay House Rabbit Society Please check out our rabbit information and lists of adoptable rabbits at:_www.tampabayhrs.org_ (http://www.tampabayhrs.org/) http://wwww.tampabayhrs.petfinder.com (check out our new Petfinder address!) "It doesn't matter what the kids say. Rabbits are not disposable like a box of cereal or a Disney video. They WILL get tired of the rabbits and go on to the next toy. YOU will have to deal with the consequences. Unfortunately, most people deal with the situation by DUMPING their rabbits on someone else. Ultimately, it is the bunny that pays for your inability to say NO." **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 5 15:51:57 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:51:57 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: My Prince, Teddy is HERE!!! Message-ID: Wheeek...Wheeeek...WHEEEEEEEK! My Teddy is Here! My Teddy is Here! Oh boy, oh boy! He flew into Charotte Int'l Airport at 11am. And the others are rolling in tooooo as wheeeee speak. Manny, Peaches, Mr. P, Baci, Cap'n Jack, and Penny are all here and Fugly, Beanie, and Nuttie are on the way. This is Soooo Exciting! Our Wedding Rehearsal begins at 5:30pm at the Pigs United Church and afterwards, we are going to have our Rehearsal Dinner at a fancy restaurant downtown called Pigs-travagance. Most piggies are staying at the Wheeeks Inn, and everypig is invited to the Rehearsal Dinner, so hopefully, everypig will be there. Oh Cool, Igor just pulled up in his Hot Pink convertible! I gotta run now. I am Soooooooooooo HAPPY...Wheeeeek! Love, Princess Snowflake... the Luckiest Piggie in the World!!! :-) From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 5 16:01:33 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:01:33 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wed, June 4, 2008 In-Reply-To: <878757.81288.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: As always...simply wonderful! I love PS's hideaway...it's so big! Where did you find that?!!! I did buy the pen like the one you show...I bought 2 and they're GREAT! I think I'm going to buy one more to make it even bigger! Thanks for helping me with that. HEY!!!! Tomorrow's the big day! Did my Teddy arrive there yet? He's going to look so dreamy in his top hat. We all await the PRINCESS, of course! ******************************************************************************************** Thanks Joanne! I got that big wooden hidey place from Met. G-Pig Rescue in northern Va./DC/MD, but the guy who used to make them doesn't make them anymore. Boo hoo! Trust me, I tried to get him to make more but he's so busy now and doesn't have the time. Oh well... YES, Teddy is HERE!!! I think the Princess sent out a message a little while ago. They are setting up the church and getting it ready for the Rehearsal. Oh Joanne, I haven't had this much Excitement since my own Wedding. I just Love Weddings... Okay, I gotta go. I'm acting as a taxi service and I need to run the Wheeeks Inn to pick up some more piggies... From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 5 16:36:18 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:36:18 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL: The Wedding/Charlotte arrival In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, not to worry, Dana. Lucy & Mina were still at the hotel, but I picked them up a few minutes ago. So, they're at the church now, safe 'n sound...Wheeeeek! ***************************************************************** Glad to hear that Penny arrived safely, but where are those juvenile delinquents Lucy & Mina? I hope they didn't meet up with any single boars. From joedee1986 at verizon.net Thu Jun 5 21:43:53 2008 From: joedee1986 at verizon.net (Dee and Joe) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Manny and Peaches Message-ID: <748715.97267.qm@web84003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dearest Manny, Oh my little stud-pig you are so athletic! I am glad I was not there to see you and Cap'n Jack I would be so frightened you would fall. I do like a little adventure now and then myself, but nothing compared to you. My slave and I are very busy getting ready, too. I have been washed and dried and had a mani/pedi yesterday. I am packed and ready to go. With me in my beautiful pink ball gown and you in your Tuxedo we will be the best dressed, except for the bride and groom of course. Please bring comfortable dancing shoes so your feetsies won't hurt. We can take our shoes off and dance barepaw! You have learned so much you will be the perfect escort. You have a special gift just for me? And long lace gloves? How wonderful. I have some gifts for you, too. I have a lovely set of carrot cuff-links and tie tack for your Tux. If you get hungry you can eat them! But not until the end of the wedding. Also, a soft, warm cavy cozy big enough for two to cuddle in (giggle giggle). Man slave sends a bottle of his apple mead wine to toast the bride and groom, and we can share what is left. I will wait for you to pick me up and whisk me off to the wedding. Your Ladypig,, Peaches n' Cream From dganley at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jun 5 20:34:22 2008 From: dganley at tampabay.rr.com (Deb Ganley) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:34:22 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Introducing Winnie & Lily! Message-ID: <004601c8c76d$11285e00$0301a8c0@debbie47340559> We're happy to announce the adoption today of Winnie & Lily! Winnie is a white & orange Aby, Lily is gray, brown & white with a little Aby in there somewhere. They're 7 months old, were bought from pet stores for a 5 year old boy for Christmas & big surprise, he lost interest already. I saw them on GP Home (thanks, Joan & Lady Bug, for telling me about that site) emailed all last night with the woman & Colleen & I picked them up today. They're very sweet girls--very quiet right now but they've had a busy day! Deb, Molly, Emma (& Potter, always with us) I guess they're now the Florida 4! From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Thu Jun 5 22:27:07 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:27:07 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [ Virtual] Manny and Peaches References: <748715.97267.qm@web84003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <052001c8c77c$d1fdc340$4f9bc0ac@SANDY> Oh! Peaches, soon my love, but first I want to tell you a secret. When we boars were in the South of France whee dropped in to the Cannes film festival, and guess who we met, yes, it was Brad and Angelina. Whee got to hang out with them and when Teddy told them he was marrying Princess Snowflake, they were just so interested. And Teddy showed them pics of the Princess, well Angie just went nuts, saying how cute she was. Well Teddy said they were going to adopt baby pigs and that really got Angie's heart, you know she and Brad are getting babies from every place possible, so the bottom line is, They invited the Teddy to bring his royal bride to live in their carriage house on their multimillion dollar estate down on the Cote de Azur (sp?). Teddy was so star struck, he said sure. So he and the Princess will be moving to the South of France, what will the Princess' slave Leah do, how can she be without her Princess? What do you think she will do? She will be so lonely! But they invited you and me to visit after they get settled, would you like that, my dear? Whee could pick grapes and eat them too! and have carriage rides and so much more! Soon I will sweep you into my arms and off whee will go and what a time whee will have, and me with your lovely present, how could you guess carrots are my favorite!! Adieu my love, for now, Manny, your Boar From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 22:35:07 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Introducing Winnie & Lily! Message-ID: <905651.56284.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm so glad for you and Winnie & Lily & Molly & Emma. What lucky little girls to be living with you now. Definitely a great big welcome! The Lady Bug looks very pleased about the whole thing as well and is sure your new babies will have you whipped into shape in no time! : ) Joan/Lady Bug From Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com Fri Jun 6 09:30:13 2008 From: Jan.Schumann at SelectHealthofSC.com (Schumann, Jan) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:30:13 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY: June Pigture Message-ID: <97D9DEF598590A4C9466AE49E94D454601E626C5@KMHPEXSC20.kmhp.com> Hello All! Do YOU have the 2008 Pet Piggies on Parade calendar? If so, look at the June Pigture of the lovely Olive and Chloe. Do you see monkeys? (Nostrils are eyes, mouth is mouth, shiny halo around muzzle is the edge of the monkey's face.) I showed this pigture to a person at work because their little lips are so cute and she only saw monkey faces! I've already thanked Tammy for providing the WONDERFUL optical illusion bonus to the calendar. Being goofy, Jan Mom to Tribble, Zathras, and Leela Lokai in my heart Jan Schumann Medical Services Data Analyst Select Health of South Carolina PO Box 40849 Charleston, SC 29423-0849 843.569.4847 p. 888.824.7788 f. www.selecthealthofsc.com Mission: We help people get care, stay well and build healthy communities ============================================================================== CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). 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After that he was a lot nicer and came inside and watched the ceremonie. Fugly is looking after me and suus a bit. I feel a bit lonely without charlie and Igor is too busy with mavis and his car. fulgy is a perfect gentleman, samantha sure is a lucky girl. Okay, gotta go! They are eating the weddingcake!! Yaya (and Suus) _________________________________________________________________ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Fri Jun 6 10:20:02 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:20:02 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Welcome to Winnie & Lily! Message-ID: Deb, Wheeeee would like to WELCOME your newest additions: Winnie & Lily!!! Wheee can't wait to hear more about them and of course, see some pigtures...Wheeeek! Love 'n Wheeeeeps, PS & me :-) From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Fri Jun 6 10:30:38 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:30:38 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Today is the BIG WEDDING DAY!!! Message-ID: Oh my Goodness! There is such chaos and craziness going on today. Piggies are running around EVERYWHERE at the Wheeeeks Inn. Teddy's Mommy Slave and the rest of their family are here now and the Princess and her Bridespigs and some of the other girlie pigs are getting their hair and nails and makeup done. The Wedding is at 5:30pm, and the Reception will immediately follow at the Wheeks Inn in the Royal Ballroom. Oh, this is Sooooo EXCITING... From MFug at live.co.uk Fri Jun 6 03:47:25 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; Wedding Message-ID: As you know I have been having computer trouble lately but dont worry Fugly made his PigAir flight, he met up with the Piggyfriends at the airport and they flew to Europe to collect Igor and the girls and any other pig they happened to find along the way and from Europe they flew to the US. Fugly has his white tuxedo cleaned and pressed he has a pink tie and a pink rose for a button hole, he has been washed, buffed, manicured and pedicured and is looking very handsome, albeit fluffy. Enjoy the wedding everypig M From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jun 6 13:39:43 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Our Wedding Day Message-ID: <923345.8832.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Teddy here. This is the most exciting day of my life!  I am so wild about my Princess Snowflake!!!  She is beyond gorgeous and wonderful and clever and fun and...everything I could ever imagine and more.  Last night Princess Snowflake and I had the pighearsal dinner for our friends and it was a blast!  I love all of you guys!!!  Princess Snowflake and I are so fortunate to have such caring friends (a bit mischievious, but that's cool with us!)  I can't wait until 5:30pm (Charlotte, NC time) to finally make our union official! The lovely Princess and I will send pigtures to the families at home. Thank you all for the wedding wishes. Love, Teddy and his bride TODAY (!!!) the Beautiful Princess Snowflake Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jun 6 13:41:53 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Winnie & Lily Message-ID: <678494.10813.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh, what happy news!  Congratulations on adopting your new little girls!  They sound precious and of course, we'd love to see pigtures! Enjoy!   Enjoy!   Enjoy! Hugs, Whistles, and Wheeks, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy (the groom), Baci, and foster piggy Sweetie (who said she wants to stay here!) Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jun 6 18:17:16 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:17:16 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Welcome Winnie and Lily Message-ID: <005801c8c823$16122e80$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> We'd like to send a big piggy welcome to new girls Winnie and Lily. They are lucky girls to have found such a wonderful new home. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From pandameisje at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 18:49:15 2008 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 00:49:15 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: the wedding Message-ID: Hi everyone, My girls Guiny, Dunya and Woopy were picked up by Fugly and the Piggy friends, met up with the other Winkies: Igor, Suus and Yaya and left with PigAir. They were happy to see their friends again, Woopy was so excited to go on her first big trip she wheeked her little lungs out. The girls were looking really pretty in the dresses I made for them, i think they will have a great time! Especially Woopy looked so cute in the little dress of hers... I sure hope Igor will be responsible and look after my Little Woopy. I know Guiny will just act as a dignified old Lady. Dunya i'm not sure, she can be a little rascal. Lets hope Igor won't sweep any pretty lady pigs away in his hot Pink convertible... Leah, please let us know they arrived safely. They are probably to excited and engaged in meeting their old and new friends to text me! the Lonely slave, Mikey -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com m.staaks at pecoma.nl Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia's: http://winkysgirls.hyves.nl From rsilhan at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jun 6 21:21:14 2008 From: rsilhan at tampabay.rr.com (rsilhan at tampabay.rr.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 21:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Chicago Pignic- Sunday Message-ID: <29280260.785061212801674695.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web26-z02> 9th Annual Critter Corral Pignic Sunday, June 8th, 2008 12 to 4pm Bemis Woods, Western Springs, Illinois - Grove 5 Come join in the fun! This is a potluck pignic with fun and games for piggies and friends. It's a great opportunity to network with fellow piggie lovers. There will also be adorable piggies looking for forever homes. Please bring a potluck dish to share and an item from the the Critter Corral wish-list. Don't forget blankets and/or chairs and, of course, your piggies. Please bring your own enclosures. Take I-294 (Tri-State Tollway) to Ogden Ave. (U.S. Rte 34). Exit east and proceed to the park entrance on the left (north). Follow signs to the pignic grove. Any questions, email Rose at zoo357 at sbcglobal.net From Algernon07 at aol.com Sat Jun 7 01:13:22 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:13:22 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Wedding Message-ID: Dear Every Slave, You must all know how we worry that our piggies won't be on their best behavior for such an important event as Princess Snowflake and Teddy's marriage. Poor little Captian Jack -- who is not so little at all -- wants to make some kind of sensational entrance with the rings rather than being part of the dignified processions moving down the aisle. I'm sure that someone managed to get him straightened out during the rehearsal. He is at that age now, you know, when he knows better than anyone. Adolescents. Oh! I have spoken to him on the phone and reminded him, quite sternly, that this event is for Princess Snowflake and Teddy. It is a day they will remember for all of their lives, THEIR special day, not Captain Jack's big event. I told him that he made a stunning appearance in France (my heart nearly stopped when I heard about it) and that should hold him for a while. He even suggested that as a "Captain" he should do double duty and in addition to carrying the rings should also perform the marriage ceremony. I let him know that they would have to be at least 3 miles out to sea, in international waters for such a union to be legal. Lady Bug, if he gets out of line, give him a good whack on the nose! He is very excited about being part of the wedding and so happy to have been included that I think there's hope. Also, he'd like to meet up with Yaya there, not to replace Charlie, but because each of them was so close to Charlie in different ways. He wondered if he might sit with her and Suus since the other boars all have their lovely ladies to escort. He will make a very handsome escort. I'm sure its a most wonderful wedding, but what about Teddy's plan for them to live abroad? I can't wait to hear more news about the wedding. Alge ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Sat Jun 7 04:56:13 2008 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:56:13 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [Virtual] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mommy, It's me yaya, again. I just got up early this morning to have a quick nibble of chicory and I though I'd send you an email. I know you worry, if all of us (read: Igor!!) are behaving quite well. Eh.. at least..i think so....(come to think of it, i havent seen Igor in a while..) It is so lovely to see all our friends again. I was a bit hesistant to go (more than the girls outing) because seeeing all of them reminds me so much of my beloved charlie. Btw, captain jack has been a real sweetheart. He is escorting me and Suus because he knows we miss charlie and Seussy. Even though there are cute young sows out there who start giggling every time he walkes past (one of them being our woopy...). He has the same charming accent like my charlie and he is very well raised by his slave. The party after the ceremony was great!! First the Princess and Teddy did the first dance. *sigh* it was sooo romantic. Ofcourse the boys prepared a show (lots of dancing, makeup, dresses.. Oz all over again...*giggle*) They ended with the grand rumblestrut blues finale, with captain jack and shadow in the middle!! They both did a solo. The practice in paris obviously paid off. Ow you should have seen the girls. They went crazy. They reminded me of the girls on your television when those slave guys performed.. eh... what was their name.. Elvis Parsley? Wheek that? the Beet-els? After that we waved the princess and teddy goodbye (i'm not sure where they were going..on a honeymoon they say) and we danced (and drank... and sung...) the night away. Okay, i'm going to have some more sleep. I havent told you everything but i'm just too tired right now. Talk to you later! Yaya From: Algernon07 at aol.comDate: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:13:22 -0400Subject: Virtual: WeddingTo: gpdd at gpdd.org; jannekestaaks at hotmail.comDear Every Slave, You must all know how we worry that our piggies won't be on their best behavior for such an important event as Princess Snowflake and Teddy's marriage. Poor little Captian Jack -- who is not so little at all -- wants to make some kind of sensational entrance with the rings rather than being part of the dignified processions moving down the aisle. I'm sure that someone managed to get him straightened out during the rehearsal. He is at that age now, you know, when he knows better than anyone. Adolescents. Oh! I have spoken to him on the phone and reminded him, quite sternly, that this event is for Princess Snowflake and Teddy. It is a day they will remember for all of their lives, THEIR special day, not Captain Jack's big event. I told him that he made a stunning appearance in France (my heart nearly stopped when I heard about it) and that should hold him for a while. He even suggested that as a "Captain" he should do double duty and in addition to carrying the rings should also perform the marriage ceremony. I let him know that they would have to be at least 3 miles out to sea, in international waters for such a union to be legal. Lady Bug, if he gets out of line, give him a good whack on the nose! He is very excited about being part of the wedding and so happy to have been included that I think there's hope. Also, he'd like to meet up with Yaya there, not to replace Charlie, but because each of them was so close to Charlie in different ways. He wondered if he might sit with her and Suus since the other boars all have their lovely ladies to escort. He will make a very handsome escort. I'm sure its a most wonderful wedding, but what about Teddy's plan for them to live abroad?I can't wait to hear more news about the wedding.Alge**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) _________________________________________________________________ Probeer Live Search: de zoekmachine van de makers van MSN! http://www.live.com/?searchOnly=true From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jun 7 12:48:33 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:48:33 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; wedding Message-ID: Hi Mummy, just to let you know I am safe and well and having a great time with the boys, I am missing Samantha but Princess Snowflake had a great idea with the bouquet, she undid the ribbons before throwing it so everyone got a flower, I am keeping mine with my button hole I am going to press them, the laps piggies have offered to sit on them for me, and then when I next see Samantha I will give them to her. Have to go there is more dancing to be done Fugly the Fabulous From yikes888 at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 12:51:17 2008 From: yikes888 at gmail.com (Sandi Korman) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:51:17 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: My Guinea pig Blog Message-ID: <578d8a800806070951w3eeaab3fjc260d97f9716efe8@mail.gmail.com> All, Check out my blog with pigtures of all my beautiful pets. http://yikes888.blogspot.com/ -Sandi From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 7 14:05:33 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; wedding & Fugly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <683528.87668.qm@web39501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Fugly the Fierce, Famous and Fantablous-The Lady Bug wanted me to send you a warning about not letting the LAPS Piggies sit on your flowers. She just knows they'll be eaten. After all, how do you think they got to be LAPS Piggies in the first place! She knows everyone will be very hungry when the dancing is over and she's afraid the beautiful Samantha will be greeted with one of those "one that got away" stories rather than a beautiful flower. Just letting you know. Joan/Lady Bug From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jun 8 07:44:07 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:44:07 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Piggies catching colds Message-ID: <001c01c8c95c$f7600b20$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> I intended to reply to Debbie's post about piggies catching our colds when I first read it but you know how it is, the older you get, the less hours that there are in the day and things get missed. I was reminded of this today as Cadbury has developed a snuffly nose and my husband has had a streaming cold for the last two weeks. Although he never handles the piggies, merely being a fetching and carrying slave - hay bales, sacks of feed, taking the rubbish to the tip etc. - the cold germs are still in the air. I can't very well make him live in the summer house until his cold has gone. The Piggyfriends' Rodentologists agree that piggies can, most certainly, catch our colds and if one of them has a cold they only see the most urgent patients, wearing a mask at the time, cancelling routine checkups until they are well again. Cadbury enjoyed his dose of decongestant and I am watching him like the proverbial hawk. He is eating up well and, hopefully, will soon be OK again. The piggy first aid box is at his disposal and, unlike my husband, he has no choice as to whether or not he takes his medicine. Debbie also wrote about wet veggies. I always wash any shop bought veggies ( you never know who has handled them ) but dry them before feeding as I don't want the pigpens to get wet floors. The piggies invariably snatch a veg chunk from the bowl and drag it off across the pen. If their grass or forage is wet when I cut it, I lay it out on a large towel to soak up some of the moisture before feeding it to the herd. If I lived in a warm country, I might not bother drying the veggies. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Mon Jun 9 10:57:35 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:57:35 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: The Wedding was Beautiful... Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves, Sorry I have been so busy and my AC went out, and I was having computer problems this past wheeekend too. Geeez. So, I haven't had a chanceto update everyone/pig on all of the Wedding Festivities. So, I'll do that in a little bit. But, I just wanted to say THANK YOU for all of ya'll that were able to make it and for all of their Wedding gifties!! Prince Teddy and Princess Snowflake are on their Honeymoon now. Oh, I wish I was on vacation right now. Ok, I have to get back to work, but I'll write more about their Wedding later and of course, there's going to be a website, so be on the lookout...Wheeeeek! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to the Newlywed Princess :-) From joedee1986 at verizon.net Mon Jun 9 14:08:54 2008 From: joedee1986 at verizon.net (Dee and Joe) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Wedding Message-ID: <328809.86689.qm@web84003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, I just got a quick email from Peaches and Pumpkin. Hi Mommy! Weee had a wonderful time at the wedding. Manny is soooo wunderful, i am in luv. He was a perfect groomspig and was soooo handsome in his tux with the carrot stud cuff links and buttons. He didn't eat them until later, blush blush. Everyone said I looked beautiful in my pink ball gown and long lace gloves. The gloves Manny gave me fit perfectly on my crooked paw. At the reception we danced all night. Lots to eat and drink, uh non-alcoholic of course. Pumpkin and the guys did a great rumblestrut performance. We girls screamed so loud the chandeliers swayed! Some threw their gloves and hankies at the boys. There was a lot of pairing up after that. My eyes were for Manny only. We cuddled in the double cuddlecup, but he was very sweet and respected my modesty. We will be heading home soon. We miss you very much. Love Peaches and Pumpkin From faststats at faststatschecks.com Mon Jun 9 16:32:45 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:32:45 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement: RIP Dear CA Cookie and Little Bear Message-ID: <008e01c8ca6f$f9ecb780$0200000a@MaryFran> Dear Piggy Friends, It is with tears in my eyes that I must finally tell you that my girls have tragically passed away. On May 14th, during the one hour drive to Santa Rosa where they were to spend a lovely vacation with Lady Bug and Joan, they were overcome with the heat in the back of the van and died shortly after. I know that they are with their loving company at the Rainbow Bridge. I asked my husband yesterday during their funeral if he thought piggies at the Bridge would miss their slaves terribly. He replied that he thought they remembered fondly their time with us, and that they missed us in a way that didn't cause them pain, if that's possible. You all know about Cookie and Carla's Snowball and their lovely trip to the Riviera after the (last) royal wedding, and about Little Bear, intrepid adventurer and captain of the Thunderbears at the 07 Lake Elsinore Olympigs. I'm sorry I have no pigtures to share. The girls were 5 and 4, I think. They divided their time among their homes in San Rafael and Lake Elsinore, and spent summer vacations at Clearlake (where some may remember that Little Bear ran away for three days last year, silly thing). And virtually, the world was their oyster. They were Clearlake feedstore piggies. Thank you, dear friends, for understanding my sorrow. These girls were with me through some hard times and for that reason, among so many others, they were, somehow, more special. The darling de Pookers. Since they're passed away together does that make them the last of their line? I suppose so. So grateful to have all of you as friends at the very sad time. --Mary Fran Piggiless and Sad From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Mon Jun 9 20:47:44 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: A Postcard from Teddy Message-ID: <97435.24975.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Friends! Teddy here.  I'm sending you a quick postcard while my lovely bride takes a nap before we head out to dinner.  Wow!  Does she look gorgeous in her pigkini !  I am one lucky pig!  New Guinea is a lovely place and we took some pigtures today which I hope to get to you soon. I hope you're all doing great! The Princess and I will see you soon! Ciao! Teddy Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jun 10 09:12:19 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:19 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Condolences for Mary Fran's piggies Message-ID: <003801c8cafb$9e2bc5d0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Mary Fran, I was so very sorry to learn about the tragic loss of Little Bear and California Cookie. They would have loved to have spent their vacation with Joan and Lady Bug. It is even worse that it happened when you were away on holiday yourself and had to hear their story second hand. Even in our miserable English climate, piggies can be struck down with heatstroke and the Piggyfriends' rodentologists treat many who have succumbed as they cannot stand extremes of temperature. I'm so sad that you now find yourself piggyless and hope that, in time, you might be able to give a lovely home to some more little ones. With our most sincere condolences and sympathetic wheeks, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From davedave121 at aol.com Tue Jun 10 12:17:24 2008 From: davedave121 at aol.com (davedave121 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:17:24 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement ; sandi's blog Message-ID: <8CA992C9A401F12-ECC-C16@WEBMAIL-MB19.sysops.aol.com> I just wanted to say thanks to Sandi for introducing us to her lovely blog, I have saved it to my toolbar favourites , and will look at it whenever I need cheering up. For anyone who misted it , you must see it . it?s on Gpdd Vol 7 Issue 176 (08/06/08) I recommend you have a look, it?s beautiful , thanks sandi. I wish I Knew how to do all that technical stuff . >From Dave and Yvonne and the herd at piggy palace . ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. From Glynis at garnay.com.au Wed Jun 11 00:40:56 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:40:56 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] RIP CA Cookie and Little Bear Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923091D8A@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Oh Mary Fran i'm so so sorry to read that your little darlings have gone to the bridge :'( i'm sitting here at my desk and tears are pouring down my face, these sweet little ones have been apart of our lives for so long :( RIP Cookie and Little Bear run free at the bridge little ones, i'm sure by now you've met up with our Sully and all the other beautiful piggies from the gpdd. I know you'll take care of each xxxxxx (((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))) and special piggie kisses for you both, please know our thoughts are with you both xxxxxxxxxx Two more little darlings smiling down at us from the bridge :( All our love Glynis and Duke (in mem Sully) xxxx From juwles at bigpond.com Wed Jun 11 06:20:14 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:20:14 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement: RIP Dear CA Cookie and Little Bear In-Reply-To: <008e01c8ca6f$f9ecb780$0200000a@MaryFran> References: <008e01c8ca6f$f9ecb780$0200000a@MaryFran> Message-ID: Dear Mary Fran I am deeply saddened to read of your loss, of not just one piggy, but both your girls. And in such tragic circumstances too. I know exactly how you feel, because on 7th August 2007 I lost my Dougall to exactly the same thing - heat stroke. It takes the piggies so quickly. I actually lost 3 piggies in the space of 2 months last year, and thought I'd be forever piggiless, but I couldn't stand not having the love and comfort of those dear little creatures God gave to us. I know you will be heartbroken at this time, as I am for you. All piggy slaves will understand of your suffering, and I pray for your comfort at this sorrowful time. Warm regards and God Bless, Julie Wheeky & Donald forever keeping Muppet, Teddy, Dougall, Archie, Brandy within my heart & soul From gracetheface at yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 14:06:40 2008 From: gracetheface at yahoo.com (grace ramp) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Behavior (Chirping) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <104139.65457.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have been a member for some years now. One of my pigs, Oreo, passed away last year and I got three new ones. A mama and her two baby girls. Mama Gus, baby Rusty and baby Babe. I didn't plan the adoption as well as I should have and they were pretty overcrowded but now I have two large cages hooked up together and they have plenty of running around room. I think it made a huge difference for them because they aren't stressed out by being so tightly packed. About a month ago I was quietly watching TV and I heard a distinct chirping. I thought it was a bird, but then realized it wasn't. When I got up to see who it was, it stopped, but I had company last week and my sister-in-law said that she was watching TV late at night and heard the chirping. I'm taking it as a sign that they are very happy. I still don't know which one it is, but I think it is Babe because she is the most vocal of all the pigs. I know it isn't Pork Chop, my oldest pig, because she has never chirped. Anyway, let me know if any of you have chirpers and what you think it might mean. Thanks for all the info I get here and sincere condolences to all of you who have lost a valued member of your households. Grace, Pork Chop, Gus, Rusty & Babe (Oreo at the Bridge) From MFug at live.co.uk Wed Jun 11 14:14:13 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:14:13 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow bridge; California Cookie and Little Bear Message-ID: Mary Fran we are so sorry your precious fiesty girls have gone to the bridge, we know they will be watching over you with love, as well as meeting old friends and making new ones. They will always have a place in your heart and in the hearts of those who shared in their adventures. Run free California Cookie and Little Bear From MFug at live.co.uk Wed Jun 11 14:16:35 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:16:35 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual; Wedding Message-ID: Well thanks to Lady Bugs advice Fugly still has the flowers to present to the lovely Samantha. He and Igor came up with a cunning plan, they hid the flowers under the seat in Igors hot pink car and then invited the LAPS piggies to go for a ride, at the end of the ride the result was perfectly pressed flowers. He is now looking forward to his camping adventure at Piggyfriends HQ From rzm.2 at juno.com Wed Jun 11 16:58:49 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:58:49 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC- condolences Message-ID: <20080611.135849.21755.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Mary Fran- I'm so sorry to hear about your girls. They were legends, of sorts, on the digest, with all their adventures. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family. They will be very much missed. =( ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Beauty School Programs - Get the career you've always wanted. Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oLm3u572oGRSXEWdxZaAwSTjGFQtDRBmml0AKvo4haJfksm/ From dukejan1 at aol.com Wed Jun 11 20:52:05 2008 From: dukejan1 at aol.com (dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:52:05 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: CA Cookie and Lil Bear Condolences Message-ID: <8CA9A3DAB4B9465-11D4-2629@FWM-D18.sysops.aol.com> Mary Fran, I was so sorry to read about CA Cookie and Lil Bear.? I so enjoyed reading about their adventures at the Lake.? I read the GPDD announcementl at work and started crying at my desk.? It's so hard to lose our little ones, especially in such an unexpected and tragic way.? Just remember that you were the best of slaves to them and that they are telling all their new friends at the Bridge about how much fun they had and how caring you were.? Deepest condolences, Janet, slave to Isabel and Lily From Algernon07 at aol.com Wed Jun 11 21:30:31 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:30:31 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] BRIDGE: Cookie and Little Bear Message-ID: Mary Fran, I was stunned when I read of the accidental passing of that famous "California Cookie" and of that equally famous and adveureous Thunderbear's Captain with the gentle sounding name, "Little Bear." I've reread this several times and my mind continues to reject the possibility while knowing that it is true. Such a terrible accident. My feelings go beyond being so so sorry for you though they certainly include that. All of our piggies are so special, but Cookie and Little Bear were such "personalities" on the digest. I know that my boys thought that they were the greatest. The timing is ironic, too. Excuse me while I bring the last of the Jolly Rodents, Charlie, into this. He finally had a friend that he could live with, play with and enjoy, but it turned out to be for such a brief time. Likewise, you were finally about to have more time to spend with your girls. I'm sure that the RV swung by, probably at Joan's, and there were cool drinks on board as well as crisp snacks and warm friends to welcome them. I truly don't know what to say to you. Like Glenis, I feel so sad and am glad my tissue box is at hand. They were one of a kind little girls and we will all miss them. God bless you, Alge and Captain Jack ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) From DebJonSara at aol.com Thu Jun 12 12:31:10 2008 From: DebJonSara at aol.com (DebJonSara at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:31:10 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for California Cookie and Little Bear Message-ID: Mary Fran We were so very sorry to hear of the tragic sudden departure to the Rainbow Bridge of your beloved piggies California Cookie and Little Bear. It is terrible to lose just one piggy, especially when one feels it could have been avoided had one done things differently, but to lose two in such a way is a double heartache, and you will be feeling bereft, we are sure. You may remember how five Dolly Mixtures were murdered by dogs in May 2003, and how dreadful Debbie slave felt afterwards - it was a tragedy which will haunt her forever. It must be a timely sad reminder to us all that piggies cannot cope with extreme heat - the female Dolly Mixtures are always being moved in and out of the porch according to the weather, as the temperature in there can reach over 40 degrees in the sun. Their outdoor hutch and run has been moved this year, and the run is still not secure, so they can't yet move out for the summer permanently, though hopefully they may make it this weekend. But they are always transported out into portable runs with plenty of shade on the rare occasions we have hot weather. At least they will have arrived at the Rainbow Bridge together, so neither was left to feel lonely. You will have many happy memories to bring you comfort, but we know the pain you must be feeling right now. Please accept our most sincere condolences from across the ocean, and know that you are in our thoughts and prayers at this very sad time. Debbie and the Dix Dolly Mixtures From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 12 13:11:11 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:11:11 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wed, June 11, 2008 Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! Check out Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wednes, June 11, 2008: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/guinea-pig-blog-june1108.aspx Also, if you have missed any of the previous posts, you can see them at: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/leah-default.aspx ENJOY!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake :-) From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jun 12 13:28:42 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:28:42 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Lady Bug's birthday party Message-ID: <002d01c8ccb1$c4290740$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Hello everypig, Have you all recovered from the excitement of Teddy and Princess Snowflake's wedding? Are you ready to party again? Don't forget that Sunday 15th. June is Lady Bug's birthday and we are holding the celebrations as part of our camping adventure weekend here at Piggyfriends. I know that you haven't forgotten, Fugly. A shuttle vehicle is available from Gatwick airport direct to our door for those piggies taking PigAir flights. Slave has cleared out the summerhouse to provide lots of piggy sized accommodation for those who do not want to camp. Duke is on our list for a summerhouse bunk. There are roses blooming in the garden for Lady Bug. Pink ones and white together with some Californian poppies grown from seed from her own slave's garden so she will feel at home. The gas company have been digging up the road outside our house for a week but luckily they have now finished and we have our parking spaces back so there is room for Igor's car together with that of any other piggies who want to drive. I'll ask Slave to tie some balloons to the front wall so that you will know when you have arrived. All piggies are welcome to bring their own camping equipment ( especially those who know how to erect a tent or we could be in trouble ) together with any items suitable for our SAS manouevres. Some of our camouflage netting has been commandeered to cover the strawberries but there looks to be plenty left for our purposes. Slave visits a farm where one can do PYO. I'm sure that this means "pig your own" so there will be lots of yummy veggies for all as well as a special birthday cake for Sunday and lots more veggies growing in the garden for those extra snacks. Let us hope that the weather is kind to us. Looking forward to meeting all our friends again. See you soon! Gulliver, spokespig for the Piggyfriends. From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Thu Jun 12 15:31:03 2008 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:31:03 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] Message-ID: Hi All, I just wanted to report back about my piggies. They are currently sleeping a lot to regain their strenght for the camping trip at the piggy friends. Judging from the happy smiles on their faces the wedding was great. I just cut Igors hair (poor guy was too tired to resist), I think it will help him with his SAS training. They made me save the hair i cutoff, yaya wants to turn it into dreadlocks for captain jack. Ofcourse I took some pigtures ;-) Here is the before and after pigture of igors haircut.. http://picasaweb.google.nl/GuinyGirl/Pigtures/photo?authkey=bvEB3NJ2pco#5211073664838306050 Igor with captain Jacks dreadlocks-to-be http://picasaweb.google.nl/GuinyGirl/Pigtures/photo?authkey=bvEB3NJ2pco#5211073662105598034 And just because i really like this pigture; here is Igor with his lovely curls http://picasaweb.google.nl/GuinyGirl/Pigtures/photo?authkey=bvEB3NJ2pco#5211073468914841986 Suus doing some exercise for the SAS training http://picasaweb.google.nl/GuinyGirl/Pigtures/photo?authkey=bvEB3NJ2pco#5211073484021548882 And yaya, because she will feel left out if i dont show off her pigture http://picasaweb.google.nl/GuinyGirl/Pigtures/photo?authkey=bvEB3NJ2pco#5211073503413584434 I really hope the links work, picasa is a bit unstable lately. If they dont work, try looking at them again at a later time. Okay, gotta go, i think i have to pack some bags and cleanout Igors car (yes i admit.. i'm a total slave..) Hmm.. i wonder what all those shrivelled up petals are doing in there... Grtz! Janneke _________________________________________________________________ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM From kaplans at peoplepc.com Thu Jun 12 17:51:44 2008 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [gpdd] behaivor (chirping) Message-ID: <004501c8ccd6$82e17360$2745ff04@stephensucks> Hi Grace, Several of my pigs chirp. One of my mother's chirp and she is not vocal at all! I've herd it manly late at but why I do not know. It's one of those thing I will probably never know why they do it. But it's fun to listen to. Sarah and the piggy gang From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 12 18:11:35 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:11:35 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: The ROYAL WEDDING Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! On Friday, June 6, 2008, Prince Teddy and Princess Snowflake were officially Married!!! It was a Joyous affair and many piggies traveled from all over the world to celebrate this magical event. Princess Snowflake made a Beautiful Bride as her elegant wedding veil flowed all of the way to the floor. And Prince Teddy was just as Handsome as could be, with his fashionable top hat and pink bow tie. Their pigture-purrfect Wedding occurred at 5:30pm at the Pigs United Church in downtown Charlotte, NC and then the Reception immediately followed in the Royal Ballroom of the Wheeks Inn. The Princess had this Dreamy look about her the entire day and it was so nice to see my little girl in Love. Her Pig of Honor, Penny and her Bridespigs, Beanie, Peaches, and Nuttie were just Wonderful. They helped the Princess get ready and made sure her every need was tended to. They looked absolutely Stunning in their pink ball gowns and white long laced gloves. Teddy's Pig of Honor, Baci and his Groomspigs, Fugly, Manny, and Mr. P (Pumpkin) were much more calm than the ladies. Imagine that. And they looked just Striking in their fancy tuxedos and pink bow ties. Their little Ring Bearer, Captain Jack, who is not so little anymore, did a wonderful job walking the rings down the aisle on a beautiful satin pillow. During the Ceremony, Prince Teddy and Princess Snowflake exchanged their pignuptials and were declared 'Piggie and Wife'. The Princess was teary-eyed throughout the whole ceremony and Teddy could not wait to kiss his Bride. After the kiss, they left the church and found Igor outside who drove them to the Reception site in a hot pink convertible. It was so Romantic... Their Wedding Reception was Lovely. The piggies indulged themselves in a delicious, extravagant veggie buffet and then the Bride and Groom danced the night away with many of their friends such as Yaya, Suus, Lucy, Mina, the Piggyfriends, Mavis, Guiny, Dunya, Woopy, Lady Bug, Shadow, oh the list goes on and on. There must have been over 300 piggies there! Instead of throwing her Wedding Bouquet, the Princess untied the ribbon and gave out the individual pink roses. And everypig really Enjoyed their carrot wedding cake. Yum! After their Last Dance, Prince Teddy and Princess Snowflake left the party and retired to their Honeymoon Swheeet there at the Wheeks Inn. The Prince couldn't wait to get his little paws on the Princess and plus, they had a really early flight out on U.S. Pigways the next morning. For their Honeymoon, they are spending ten looong days in New Guinea, a beautiful island off of Australia. Joanne, Prince Teddy's Mom and I left the Reception soon thereafter. Whee figured we would let the piggies enjoy themselves. Hopefully, they behaved themselves in our absence (wink wink). The Royal Wedding was a hit! Thank You all for coming and for showering the Prince and Princess with such Wonderful gifts. CONGRATULATIONS to Prince Teddy & Princess Snowflake!!! From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Fri Jun 13 09:37:22 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:37:22 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Bridge: Ca. Cookie & Little Bear Message-ID: Mary Fran, I don't even know what to say. :-( I cannot believe they are gone. I've been following Ca. Cookie and Little Bear's lives for so long that I considered them part of my own family. And you shouldn't worry about them missing you at the Bridge because I'm sure my Beloved Brownie Bear and Butterscotch has caught up with them by now and explained things to them. You know that you will see them again when the time is Right. B-Bear was Always fond of C-Cookie and L-Bear so I know that they are running around up there doing girlie pig things together and catching up. I know what it feels like to lose 2 very Special pets so close together and it just simply Hurts. But, take comfort in knowing that they are being well taken care of 'up there' and that one day, another piggie (or two, or three) will win your heart over. But, until then, take care of yourself and just know that you have me and all of us here on the Digest that you can lean on when you need to. Please accept our warm Condolences from Princess Snowflake and me-- Love 'n Wheeeeeeps... From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jun 13 04:01:36 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:36 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] BEHAVIOUR Chirping Message-ID: <002301c8cd2b$bd0a8450$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Hi Grace, Two of my herd are chirpers. Sapphire and her son, Rye. I have no idea why they do it but isn't it a lovely sound? I kept canaries for many years and it reminds me of those times. Sapphire and Rye seem to be daytime chirpers but a couple of weeks ago I heard evening chirping coming from another pen, further away than their homes. Which ever piggy was singing, he/she had stopped before I found out who it was. I always seem to have had one chirper amongst my piggy family. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From KSkosich at msn.com Fri Jun 13 13:28:52 2008 From: KSkosich at msn.com (J D) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:28:52 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement: to Mary Fran Message-ID: Mary Fran, I was so sorry to see your heartbreaking post about the loss of your dear piggies. I hope it helps a tiny bit to know that many of us are thinking of you in sympathy. Kathy S (with Millie bloodhound, Shaggy cat and piggies Pookah-Darryl and Ginger Jellyroll) From MFug at live.co.uk Fri Jun 13 15:19:44 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:19:44 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; Camping Message-ID: Hi Piggyfriends Fugly has not forgotten that this wheekend is camping wheekend unfortunately the little guy has got his dates mixed up and is already en route to camp Piggyfriends, he has his own tent with him so if Slave Penny can let him stay in the garden I am sure he will be on his best behaviour, could somepig let me know he has arrived safely. Fugly checking out his new tent http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj129/TGPF2007/mandfugly/IMG_0231.jpg http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/jj129/TGPF2007/mandfugly/?action=view¤t=IMG_0234.jpg and in his SAS activity tube http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/jj129/TGPF2007/mandfugly/?action=view¤t=IMG_0235.jpg http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj129/TGPF2007/mandfugly/IMG_0236.jpg luckily these both fold down flat for easy transportation Hope links work as this is 1st time I have tried them M From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jun 13 18:00:24 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:00:24 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Camping Message-ID: <20080613230024.99264.9940.root@web11-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Don't worry M. Fugly has already arrived here at Piggyfriends. As he was he first to arrive, he is staying in the house until tomorrow when other piggies should be turning up. Everypig was very pleased to see him. It was too dark to pitch his tent so he can do this in the morning. His SAS tube was very well received and everypig wants to run through it. We all love your pigtures. As well as Fugly's photos, we got to see pictures of a zoo and someone's kitchen too. Only the first pigture, of Fugly in his excellent tent, came up as an individual shot. I hope everyone can read this OK but our mail server has flaked out and I am having to send this through the Tesco website, something that I have never done before. I sent a test message to my son and he was not impressed so I have tried to change the appearance. What a thing to happen when I have important messages to send about the camping weekend. If this comes out as garbage, perhaps someone could let me know. Looking forward to greeting the rest of the camping party tomorrow. Gulliver wants to know if Igor watched the football match tonight. Didn't the Dutch team play well? We are all supporting them as our Irish team is not in the competition and Gulliver likes their orange shirts as he is orange himself. He was very impressed with Van Pigsie's goal. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 14 00:16:17 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual:Camping and LB's Birthday Message-ID: <803741.75607.qm@web39506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, I put The Lady Bug on the PigAir flight tonight. She didn't hear from Duke so she wondered if he was having tooth problems again but she decided she wasn't going to let that stop her from going camping and having fun. She told me in no uncertain terms that she wanted to fly by herself and that she would do "just fine thank you!" Well, I did talk to the attendents and they promised me they'd keep a close eye on her to be sure all was well. Is there any chance that a couple of the Piggyfriends could meet her flight at Gatwick? I would feel so much better if she didn't have to arrange for transportation by herself. She sometimes over-estimates what she's able to do. Lady Bug was so happy to hear that the very fine slave Penny had cleared out the summerhouse as she is just not to keen on the idea of sleeping on the ground. She's afraid the cold would bother her arthritis and she does not want to miss a moment's fun. She is bringing her cozy sak for sleeping as she finds them quite warm and comfortable. Just in case the night's do become a little chilly she is bringing plenty of apple and carrot wine for sitting around the campfire. She also has a shawl that she likes and plans to use it against the night air. I must add here that I didn't notice until I got back home, she forgot her cane. I suspect she did it on purpose so no one has to worry about getting popped on the nose for anything! She told me that despite being 6 years old she is feeling quite fine but did promise to take her medicines as she's supposed to. (If she had not promised I would have kept her here.) She is very excited about riding in a convertable and feeling the wind in her hair and flopping her ears. She definitely likes the idea of picking your own in the neighbors field. Her hearing and nose are as keen as ever. Penny, please do be sure she does not make a "pig" out of herself and try and eat ALL the roses you have so tenderly set aside for all to eat. Anyway, I do need her to come home on Monday. Don't let her overstay her welcome. She has heard all the great stories of the Piggyfriends and just might decide to stay forever. Here's hoping all goes well. Already lonesome slave, Joan From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jun 14 08:36:39 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Janneke's Pigtures Message-ID: <972983.79571.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh, I loved your pigtures!  Each of your piggies are absolutely beautiful! Thanks for sharing them!!!!  Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, and Sweetie who wants to stay Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jun 14 08:46:40 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Ca. Cookie & Little Bear Message-ID: <100713.84836.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Mary Fran: I am so sad for you.  I know how horrible it is to lose these special little guys.  I lost my original three within 10 months of one another and we can only hope that they are all together now and waiting for us. Please know that I'm thinking of you and hope you will one day give other homeless pigs a family of their own.  We are all here for you in your sorrow.  Talk about your little ones to help you heal from this tragic loss.  Again, I'm so sorry. With sincere sympathy, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie (foster????) In heaven:  Annie, Abbie, Monkee Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jun 14 04:23:44 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:23:44 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Camping and Birthday weekend Message-ID: <003701c8cdf7$f72dcfd0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> The air is full of the sounds of tent pegs being hammered in, mixed with mild expletives as paws are hammered too and tents fall down but all is going well here at Piggyfriends. Fugly's tent is being admired by all. My boars are keen to get their SAS course set out but I have told them that they must help everypig set up their camping equipment first. Don't worry about Lady Bug, Joan. Daisy and Halloween set off to meet her from her flight and will have arrived at Gatwick in plenty of time for a snack at the salad bar before her flight lands. If she has need of her cane for getting around as opposed to tapping errant piggies on the nose, I am sure that one can be fashioned from a garden cane. She should not be too cold in the summerhouse as, despite our rotten climate, there are lots of blankets and piles of hay to share. Diamond has offered to share her arthritis medicine with her and will give her a bottle of tablets to bring home afterwards. The apple and carrot wine will be an excellent addition to the campfire party. Thank you! I haven't heard from Duke yet either and hope that he will be here in time for the party tomorrow. He does have a very long way to come from Oz. More piggies are arriving so I will post an update later, together with an announcement of a new arrival at Piggyfriends. Yes, I know that Shadow was to be the last new Piggyfriend but so was Minstrel before him and Midnight and Buttons before him.............. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jun 14 12:27:39 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:27:39 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE Lilac brings home a friend. Message-ID: <008c01c8ce3b$91a681e0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Little Lilac Piggyfriend has had an abcess, not the usual one under the chin that I could have treated myself but a nasty one deep in her side that needed the expert attention of our Rodentologists at Cavies' Castle. To save me keep travelling to and fro with her, they suggested that she stay in the hospital so that the abscess could be lanced as necessary. She had the company of another patient in the next door cage for a while but she went home with her slave when she was better. Cavies' Castle also does holiday boarding for piggies and they had a call from one of their clients, booking in a pair of sows. A little boar from a rescue had been adopted as a friend for these two sows but one of them was, apparently, really aggressive towards the little fellow and they told Chris, one of our Rodentologists, that they would have to return him to the rescue. Chris told them not to do that but to bring him along when they brought their sows and she would find him a home. Although she insists that she does not do rescue work, there are many times when piggies are at her house waiting for homes and so many people bring their piggies to see her that often they go home with an extra one or two. Sometimes she keeps them for herself! Chris put the little boar in a cage next to Lilac for company. Lilac is normally a very shy piggy, hiding behind a member of her group but as soon as she saw this boy, she was shouting at the cage wire for him to come and chat. I called Chris for an update on Lilac and she told me about the little boar and how he and Lilac were sitting next to each other by the cage wires and that Lilac was, uncharacteristically, shouting for food for them both. I had been contemplating keeping Lilac in a separate cage when she came home so that I could more easily monitor any flare up of her abscess so I asked Chris, if she could spare the time, to try and introduce the two piggies. She called me back a couple of days later to tell me that it had been an instant success. They were great friends, sitting nicely together and sharing their food. I collected them both last Wednesday night after work and here they are, really good friends snuggled up together. Chris had temporarily named the little boy Casanova. That may be subject to change but it is growing on me. He is a mostly white Abby, allegedly 7 months old. He is a mirror image of Frodo, to those of you familiar with his pigture on the LAPS blog. He has a dark ring around his right eye and a black and brown patch over the other - the exact opposite to Frodo - and the rest of his coat is white except for his "tail" end and one back leg, which are black. When Chris described him over the phone, the patch made me think of pirate type names but, having met him, they do not suit his character. I had considered Pugwash, from a TV cartoon pirate from my youth, whose ship was called the Black Pig. Anyone in England ancient enough to remember Captain Pugwash? I thought not! He is a dear little fellow, so tame and easily handled. I can't imagine how he ended up in a rescue. He is a very welcome addition to the Piggyfriends herd and Lilac loves him to bits. If you are still maintaining the piggy list, could you add another boar to the Piggyfriends herd, Birdie? This is the first time ever that the boars have outnumbered the sows. 14 to 13. So, please welcome my little man to the GPDD. I'm still cogitating names and will let you know what I decide. The naming of names is never undertaken lightly here. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jun 14 14:32:05 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:32:05 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Camping update. Message-ID: <00ad01c8ce4c$f554a260$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> While my mail server is up and running, I thought I'd post an update to the camping trip. My lawn is now covered in little tents and the summerhouse is full of sleeping bags and cavy cosies. We waited for Daisy and Halloween to return from the airport with Lady Bug before setting out for lunch. Lady Bug had a great flight as, when the PigAir stewards found out about her important birthday, they laid on a champagne brunch for her. She had a little nap on the way home from the airport. I took all the piggies to the Pig Your Own farm for their lunch and whilst I had a coffee and cake they grazed their way through an entire polytunnel full of salad. The owner of the farm had never seen so much salad devoured in such a short time and now understands why I buy so much of his produce. The children's playground also provided a lot of entertainment as there are concrete pipes to climb through. On the way home, we called in at Roly's farm. He grows and prepares veggies for local restaurants and saves leaves and bits for the Piggyfriends. We collected a big box of cauli leaves, broccoli stalks and carrot tops, which should go a fair way to staving off hunger this evening and keep my own veggies in reserve for tomorrow's festivities. It has been an unexpectedly fine day so Lady Bug had a well deserved nap on a lawn chair, whilst the other piggies busied themselves with their SAS games. A large pile of logs has been moved onto the lawn for tonight's campfire. Luckily I have no neighbours so no-one can complain about the smoke and no houses will be in imminent danger of burning down. I'm not sure if piggies are safe with matches so have left buckets of water around just in case. A guy in our village tinkers around with classic cars, notably large American ones with lots of chrome bits ( you can tell that I know a lot about cars! ) and was very impressed with Igor's car in the driveway. Igor took groups of piggies for a spin around the countryside and attracted a lot of attention. I hope that he remembered to drive on the left. Everypig is safely back here again and no pig has yet managed to fall in the pond so, all in all, it has been a very good day. I think that I will leave them all to their campfire songs as this might not be suitable for slaves to hear and rely on one of the piggies to report back to the digest. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Sat Jun 14 15:14:52 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:14:52 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] (Virtual) Manny and Peaches References: Message-ID: <007101c8ce52$f5ff2b80$aeb4c0ac@SANDY> Has any one seen Manny and Peaches, did Peaches go home? I thought he would come home after the wedding but nothing so far except messages during the wedding and right after at the going away brunch Leah was super nice to provide the Piggies a superb brunch buffet the day after the newlyweds went off on their honeymoon. She dedicated it to the Bridge Piggies who couldn't come to the wedding, and there was a moment of silence. I heard Captain Jack was there in his cape made from his multicolored parachute he used in France to drop onto the Eiffel Tower. He said Captain Jack was taking collections for his gold teefies, and offering stock in his future pirate booty as security so he could be a proper pirate. Manny said he had a hard time convincing him it wouldn't work cause piggie teefies grow! I heard Manny and Peaches were in a back corner booth holding paws and talking quietly. Peaches had a lace handkerchief, I'm sure they were sad to have to part after such a fine outing and the beauty of the wedding was bound to impress them. So please, if anyone knows where they went let me know! I'm so lonely without him!! Sandy From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jun 15 07:47:01 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:47:01 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual: camping Message-ID: Hi Mummy, Fugly the fighter here, I have arrived safely at the Piggyfriends it was too late last night to put my tent up so I stayed in the house and just like I learned at home if you wheek when the fridge opens food magically appears, by the way I hope you didnt want to eat that beetroot you brought because I have got it here with me as a treat to share hee hee. This morning we have been setting up everyones tents, mine was the easiest because it just pops up, later we will be setting up the SAS course which I have brought my handy tunnel for, the other piggies cant believe that something that is folded up so small will make a long tunnel to play in, but it will. We are also going to pig your own, Gulliver says when you go in they make you stand on a scale they take a photo of you and write your weight on it, then you go and eat what you like and when you leave they weigh you again and charge your egg card with how much you have eaten, not sure if he is having a laugh with me. We have another new recruit for the rumblestrut blues and any other dance ideas that might come along his name is Casanova well at the moment it is but that might change, sorry girls it appears he is already taken by Lilac Piggyfriend. Gotta go now other piggies want to use the puter Fugly From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jun 15 04:56:57 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:56:57 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE Happy Birthday Lady Bug Message-ID: <000f01c8cec5$c5a25b10$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> All of the Piggyfriends want to wish Lady Bug a wonderful 6th. birthday today. You are a credit to Joan, your wonderful slave. Enjoy your day! Penny. From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jun 15 13:01:41 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:01:41 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; camping Message-ID: Hi Mummy, today is Lady Bugs birthday, I had to phone Igor when I arrived at Piggyfriends to remind him to bring Lady Bugs present, I cant tell you what it is as we are not presenting it until this afternoon and I dont want to ruin the surprise, I am sure Lady Bug will love it though. When I phoned Igor he was asleep so I woke him up hee hee lazy little piggy. I will let Lady Bug know that you wish her a happy birthday, she is around here somewhere holding hands with Duke who arrived a bit late coz he had his toothies trimmed again, but he is feeling a lot better now, Igor is looking after his eyes. Last night we had campfire and sang lots of songs but I cant remember the words we are having another campfire tonight. As there is a paint ball place just down the road some of us are going to stay longer and have a paint ball rematch, hee hee will let you know when to expect me home, dont wait up. We also have to give the assault course some more use, you know how it is. Fugly the famous fabulous (fantabulous new word from my buddy Duke) fighter From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Sun Jun 15 13:09:09 2008 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:09:09 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [VIRTUAL] Message-ID: Hey Slave, Its me, Igor! Camping at the piggyfriends is very wonderful!! I just loooove all the veggies and herbs penny grows out here. Why cant you become a gardener instead of a librarian? It seems like a much more usefull profession to me...;-) I think you were right about cutting off my hair. I have to admit, moving around is a lot easier compared to our laser games. The SAS training is soo much fun! Today I ambushed Fugly. I could just see he was dreaming about samantha so i secretly climbed into a tree and then I jumped out of it on to of him. Hahahaha.. you should have seen his face. It was genius! He's sitting outside by the fire right now.. I think he is slightly cross with me...I'm taking some carrot beers to make it up with him. Okay, gotta go! The boars are talking about re-enacting the soccer match and i want to play van Pigsie, just like Jan the boar before me. Suus also wants to talk to you! Lots of manly wheeks Igor Hi mommy, Its me, suus. The camping trip is soo great. You know how much I love climbing on stuff and running around. SAS is perfect for me. Helps me keep up my bulky LAPS muscles. Btw, dont believe Igor when he tells you he jumped out of a tree. In fact, he jumped out of a bush and not even a very tall one for that matter ;-) Igor is behaving quite good actually, today he drove around lots of piggies with his car. That car was an excellent idea. I just keeps him so occupied that he hasnt got much time left for tricks and pranks.. I'm so anxious if Lady bug likes her present. We bought her very high quality cane polish and to our horror she didnt bring her cane (well not Igor, he actually looked a bit relieved..) Okay, talk to you soon! Lots of wheeks and kisses! Suus _________________________________________________________________ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl From pandameisje at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 14:14:17 2008 From: pandameisje at gmail.com (Mieke Staaks) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:14:17 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Camp Piggyfriends Message-ID: Hi all, My girls have come home before going on after the wedding to Camp Piggyfriends. Thanks Leah and everyone there for taking care of my girls and giving them a Wonderful time. Woopy couldn't stop telling me in excitement who she meet and what they had done on her first virtual trip. The reason the girls stopped by home is because they had to pick up their camping gear. First their camping gear had to be tested. Here you see Guiny trying out the tent: http://picasaweb.google.com/pandameisje/CampingtripPiggyfriends2008/photo#5212170101863153986 Of Course Woopy had to check out the tent too: http://picasaweb.google.com/pandameisje/CampingtripPiggyfriends2008/photo#5212170028831213842 This is the girls testing their cavy cozies which they got from Tammy of cavymadness as their secret santa gifts. Hopefully Tammy wont mind Woopy using Lotjes cozy.. http://picasaweb.google.com/pandameisje/CampingtripPiggyfriends2008/photo#5212170004050280178 Woopy was very excited to go to this trip and meet all of her new friends again! She was also wondering what this SAS training is, here in holland we don't have anything called SAS, so we were wondering what SAS is, can anyone explain? Woopy sure hopes it involves climbing, (or loud wheeking) something she is very good at. Here you will see her in her favorite spot in the cage: http://picasaweb.google.com/pandameisje/CampingtripPiggyfriends2008/photo#5212170077410074562 (right next to the card with the cumcumber on it, maybe that't the reason she likes this spot so much?) Well, I'm hoping they arrived just fine, Igor picked them up with his pink car yesterday. I'm sure they will have a great time over at Camp Piggyfriends! Many greetings, Slave Mikey -- pandameisje at gmail.com pandameisje at hotmail.com m.staaks at pecoma.nl Blog: http://pandameisje.hyves.nl Cavia's: http://winkysgirls.hyves.nl From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jun 15 17:43:12 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:43:12 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Camping and Lady Bug's birthday. Message-ID: <006201c8cf30$d0f86a20$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Hi there, Gulliver Piggyfriend here. Don't worry all you slaves out there - all of your piggies are enjoying themselves camping in our garden and nopig has fallen in the pond yet. We had a lovely day today as it was Lady Bug's birthday. There were balloons and streamers, music and dancing and lots of presents for Lady Bug. We ate piles of veggies from Slave's garden but I'm sure that there are some left for tomorrow, at least I hope so! There was a big carrot cake with candles on it and we helped Lady Bug blow them out and we all sang "Happy Birthday to you". Some of our guests did not know what the SAS is but they really enjoyed playing soldiers in our garden. For you slaves who don't live in England let me tell you that the SAS are an elite regiment of soldiers, who do all sorts of exciting things like counter terrorism and secret missions. In fact they are so secret that they probably do things that no-one else knows about. I don't know what they would be called in your countries but our games involve a lot of sneaking around in camouflage gear and hiding and ambushing and..............other stuff like that. We practised survival skills - living off the land in enemy countries. Actually that is quite easy in the garden as it is full of food but we did sneak into the kitchen and opened the fridge ( very secretly of course ) and then we sneaked in and raided the fruit bowl. Someone from the local newspaper came round and took photos of Lady Bug. Don't get too excited Joan - not a lot happens in our village and a cat up a tree is likely to make the front page - but we all loved posing for pigtures. She took photos of Igor's car so that might be shown in a motoring magazine. Maybe they will send us some prints. In the afternoon we had a football match, recreating the events of the PigOlympigs. Igor is not as good at football as Jan the Boar but he tried very hard and will surely improve with practice. It is just as well that his slave gave him a haircut before he came or he would have fallen over it. Lots of the girls sat around on lawn chairs and watched us ( or perhaps they were merely gossiping ). In the morning we are going to the paintball centre, which should not be too busy on a Monday. We don't want to get mixed up with slaves playing paintball as they might feel silly being beaten by a team of piggies. We will make sure that Lady Bug catches her flight home OK. We wish that she could stay but Slave says that she must go home soon. I expect that she is missing her slave and the nice weather in California. Although it was meant to be wet all weekend we have been very lucky and it didn't rain at all. All of us Piggyfriends are so pleased that such a wonderful group of piggies have come to our camping weekend. Thank you, slaves, for allowing them to come. We have had so much fun. We are going to light the campfire again now and have another sing-song. Slave says that we should toast marshmallows but I am not sure that I would like them. Maybe we could toast carrots. Lady Bug's wine is really delicious and we have forgotten what we got up to last night but I'm sure everypig behaved themselves ( cough cough ). Now, where did I leave those matches? Gulliver, spokespig for the Piggyfriends. From dganley at tampabay.rr.com Sun Jun 15 20:41:39 2008 From: dganley at tampabay.rr.com (Deb Ganley) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:41:39 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce Lilac brings home a friend Message-ID: <005a01c8cf49$bd6f4f50$0301a8c0@debbie47340559> Congratulations on little Casanova's addition to the Piggyfriends! It's always wonderful to hear of a rescue piggie moving into such a great home--& with a friend he already loves! Whee hope Lilac & Casanova have many happy healthy years together! Deb & the Florida 4 (& Potter, always with us) From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 15 23:44:57 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual:Camping & birthday Message-ID: <690450.83531.qm@web39508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, The Lady Bug finally got around to using her cell phone this afternoon. She is having a great time and asked if she could stay longer (I knew she would do that!) but I told her she needed to be at home. Then she asked if we could move in with the Piggyfriends! I told her that, while the Piggyfriends might like that I was sure Penny and the other slaves in the house would not. She grumbled but admitted she was just being selfish. She just loved the arthritis pills Penny gave her and wanted to know why I wasn't using them. I told her that they were not available here so she'd just have to stay with what she has. She just grumbled some more. She did love the ride in Igor's car and was grateful that no LAPS piggys were sitting on her. She has become quite impressed with Fugly and says he's really shaped up into a good manpig. She's so pleased that he's so much less irresponsible this trip. He seems to be keeping Igor in check as well. She always approves when cheeky boys grow into charming men. Lady Bug also just loves Casanova and thinks he and Lilac make a good couple. She thinks Lilac has really come out of her shy self. As usual, she had a great time gossiping with Daisy and the other girl Piggyfriends as well as the Winky girls. Suus & Woopy kept her in stitches with their humor. I asked Lady Bug if she was a good girl and left some of the roses for others to enjoy. She hemmed and hawed but said she left "some". I hope she did not disgrace herself. She did say she thought she was clever. She found an old piece of pipe in Penny's back garden so she used it as a cane when they went to the pick your own. She stood on the scale holding the pipe, pretending she couldn't walk without it. When they were finished eating she passed the pipe to Igor to hold and the poor farmer couldn't figure out why she weighed less when she left! He just couldn't figure out how he owed her money when he had seen her eating great swathes of greenery! When the farmer wasn't looking Igor passed the pipe back to her so he could get on the scale and the farmer would be none the wiser. She will get a severe talking to when she gets home believe me. Lady Bug should be home tomorrow night and I will be glad to see her even if she is a bit deceitful. Joan, cleaning LB's house for her arrival tomorrow. From kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk Mon Jun 16 10:52:02 2008 From: kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk (Dr Kay Dudman) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:52:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Gpdd] announcement: RIP Dear CA Cookie and Little Bear In-Reply-To: <008e01c8ca6f$f9ecb780$0200000a@MaryFran> References: <008e01c8ca6f$f9ecb780$0200000a@MaryFran> Message-ID: Dear Mary Fran I have only just heard about the very sad loss of your beloved California Cookie and Little Bear as I have been away (taking an exam). How heartbreaking to lose two beloved piggies at the same time. I am sure that one day another piggy (or two) will decide to adopt you for their own, but in the mean time, please be comforted by knowing that everyone on the digest knows how devastated you must feel and sends their heartfelt sympathy to you. In time you will be able to remember CA Cookie's and Little Bear's adventures with smiles instead of tears; they knew how much you loved them both, and will watch over you from the Bridge. With our deepest sympathy and condolences, Kay and the Piggy Porcelains Companies Act 2006 : http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/companyinfo From mfug at live.co.uk Mon Jun 16 07:06:35 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:35 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] FW: virtual; camping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Subject: RE: virtual; campingDate: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:40:46 +1000 Fugly me matewould you mind posting for me.........grrrrrrrrrrr granny's puter really went broke today... it would not start so when she sent a lovely message from me for my darling LB it was rejected i think also she must've stuffed up.. maybe no heading we think?? i wanted to say.... if you would pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee put this in for me so it's on... HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUHAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR LADY BUG HAPPY BIRHTDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU XXXXX My darling Lady Bug happy birthday i'm sorry i'm late to reply there's been a puter problem grrri also need to apologise to your mummy, Joan i am there, but i did arrive a bit late i had toofie problems i broke a toofie and then Brendan had to cut the other one off to make it all better, but then i could't eat :( Please know that i will take care of the most beautiful girl in the world my darling LB i will help her but not crowd her, i will do as she asks but not bow to her if she doesn't want me to... but i will also present her with a beautiful flower tribute i had made just for her and i also sent her a card via that snail mail... i just hope it made it in time if not i'll be real real cross and disappointed... SOB SOB I'm so impressed that my beautiful girl turned 6 she's had to go thru the most horrible test and time... her slave her beautiful mummy has had to go thru so much it's not always been easy.... but LB has come thru she's a tribute to Joan and herself xxxxxxx all my loveDuke xxxxxxx p.s. thanks Fugly you're a real good mate for doing this i owe you if i can i can always throw in some more roses for your beautiful girl... i'm sure she'd love them xxx your big buddy Duke xxx _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ From calliope at geeksnet.com Mon Jun 16 14:14:20 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:14:20 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Lady Bug Message-ID: <4856AD7C.2090108@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish Lady Bug a very Happy 6th (!) Birthday! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From suzy at dunser.com Mon Jun 16 15:43:03 2008 From: suzy at dunser.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suzy_D=FCnser?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:43:03 +1200 Subject: [Gpdd] announce: happy birthday, Ladybug! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, 6! Rocky is in awe. Congratulations to Ladybug on her birthday! Well done, Joan! It's good to have people and piggies with so much pigsperience on the gpdd. Hugs and wheeks from Suzy and Rocky and Cocoa in our hearts From suzy at dunser.com Mon Jun 16 15:46:46 2008 From: suzy at dunser.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suzy_D=FCnser?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:46:46 +1200 Subject: [Gpdd] announce - welcome Casanova! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EB4864E-4287-4CA4-AA88-717A04D12FAF@dunser.com> Well, I don't know that Casanova is such a bad name for a piggy that stole Lilac's heart so quickly! It does seem to imply a level of worldliness that you indicated isn't there, though, more just a sweet little guy... well, whatever he decides his name is, welcome to your new little piggy. That was such a lovely story. But so many of your stories are!! Cheers and wheeks from Suzy and Rocky and Cocoa in our hearts From joedee1986 at verizon.net Mon Jun 16 19:54:25 2008 From: joedee1986 at verizon.net (Dee and Joe) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Manny and Peaches Message-ID: <281892.23774.qm@web84007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Sandy, I haven't heard from Peaches but Pumpkin came home. He said they went off to the camp-out with a bunch of other piggies. Peaches has never been camping before. She is used to some comforts like a warm bed and lots of food and hay. Sounds like they have all that at this camp-out. If anyone sees them would you let Sandy and I know? I am so mad at Peaches for not telling me where she was going. Such a naughty girl! Pumpkin had a wonderful time at the wedding. He hasn't told me much as he has been sleeping. After all he is a senior boar. A little about the rumblestrut blues and the sows tossing handkerchiefs and flowers. Hope she and Manny are okay. Worried slave Dee From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Jun 17 10:50:46 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Lilac's new friend Message-ID: <379681.49257.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi!  What fun news!  Congratulations on the new little guy!  He sounds adorable and I'm so happy he found a wonderful family in your home!  Enjoy him and keep us posted! Hugs, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, and Sweetie who wants to stay Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From MFug at live.co.uk Tue Jun 17 02:43:31 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:43:31 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; Glynis computer Message-ID: Hi guys just to let you know that like me Glynis has lost all her email addresses could everyone she normally emails send her an email at glynis at garnay.com.au so she can save you all again. I think some people are still using my old email which no longer works so if you want to email me the new address is mfug at live.co.uk Thanks From mfug at live.co.uk Tue Jun 17 08:44:31 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:44:31 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; camping Message-ID: Hi Mummy we went paintballing today and I got my revenge on Igor, did you hear how after I had eaten a nice big lunch and was happily resting under a bush, Igor decided to climb in the bush but because he had eaten so much he was too heavy and the branch broke and he squashed me. Anyway at paintballing I sneaked up on him and shot him in the bottom with a strawberry hee hee, he has a very pretty pink bum to match his pink car hee hee. Then we played how many piggies can you get in a tent we managed 6, by the way you can only get 2 LAPS piggy to a tent. Gulliver lost the matches for the bonfire and then remembered he had hidden them under the strawberry netting because it seemed like a good idea at the time, it took him a while to remember coz of all the carrot wine. There is still so much going on here dont expect me home for a while, well at least until it starts to rain, weather has been great soo far. Fugly the Fighter _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Tue Jun 17 11:39:25 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Happy Birthday to the Lady Bug Message-ID: <954657.53636.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We're a little behind on reading but all wanted to wish LADY BUG a HAPPY 6th BIRTHDAY!  Wow!   We hope this year is a happy, healthy one for you!  Sending loving wheeks, Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy, Baci, Sweetie and Slave Joanne Don't buy while shelter animals die!  Adopt a pet. From cherylcline at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 13:19:07 2008 From: cherylcline at gmail.com (Cheryl Cline) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:19:07 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Drooling - softer food? Message-ID: <92d7e7030806171019y699d2780y444ee956e3f2a661@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to everyone who sent me recommendations regarding Kleenmama vs. Oxbow for hay and pellets. I bought additional Kleenmama pellets, but since they would take a while to arrive I bought Oxbow pellets in the interim. They are very small and supposedly easier to eat. I also bought some softer hay (3rd cut bluegrass and timothy) from Kleenmama as a treat for Alex, as well as Oxbow Vitamin C tablets. He's been on this diet for a couple of weeks now, although it took a while for him to eat the Vitamin C and is still a bit fussy about it. However, I noticed last night that Alex was drooling, which he's never done before. Guinealynx and other sources say that this is usually a tooth problem. (It can also be scurvy but he's got that extra Vitamin C so I don't think that's it.) He's still eating hay and veggies but is kind of scattering his pellets rather than eating them. He's got an appointment this afternoon with a vet named Lynn Dustin of Bay Area Bird Hospital, as recommended by the Guinea Lynx vet listing (http://www.guinealynx.info/cabinet/index.php/Veterinarians_California). I'm wondering, is it possible I brought this on by feeding him slightly softer food? Or is it perhaps age-related (Alex is now over 5 1/2, I should have had him added to SCAMPS long ago)? Has anyone else noticed improvement/decline when switching foods? Also, does anyone know of good cavy vets in the East Bay area (near Berkeley, Oakland?) I'm going twenty miles to the Bird Hospital since Alex is not in dire straits, but if it were a real emergency I would want someone closer. I have taken him to the Broadway Animal Hospital before, and my experience was okay overall, but I am not sure that my vet was a cavy expert. I'll post later tonight when Alex gets back from the vet. Thanks in advance to you all, it's so reassuring to have a community of piggie slaves to talk to... -Cheryl and Alex From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Tue Jun 17 13:57:00 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:57:00 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: HAPPY 6th BIRTHDAY, Lady Bug!!! Message-ID: Dear Lady Bug, Princess Snowflake here (as well as my new Prince Teddy who is nibbling on toes as I type this). Whee are so sorry that we missed your Birthday Celebration and the Camping trip. Wheee were on our Honeymoon, so whee hope you understand. Whee're on our way back now to the States, and boy! is it a loooong flight. Anyways, we just wanted to tell you that it is so Awesome that you are 6 years old and wheee look up to you sooooooo much. Hopefully, you got lots of pressies and treats and all that good stuff...Wheeeeek! Okay, I gotta go. Whee're in First Class, so whee get all the Carrot Cocktails we want and the flight attendant is getting ready to take our veggie order. HAPPY 6th BIRTHDAY, Lady Bug!!! Here's to many, many more... Love Always, PT & PS :-) From faststats at faststatschecks.com Tue Jun 17 14:03:49 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:03:49 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Lady Bug's B-Day Message-ID: <004501c8d0a4$7e911370$0200000a@MaryFran> Hello Slaves and Piggies, Drove up to Santa Rosa to visit Lady Bug on her birthday (and of course Slave Joan). Had a wonderful time piggy petting. Lady Bug is quite the pig! --Mary Fran Still piggyless From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jun 17 14:08:52 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:08:52 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Casanova Piggyfriend. Message-ID: <009401c8d0a5$35141930$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Many thanks to everyone who has emailed me or posted about my new little piggy. If I haven't replied yet, I am getting around to it! I keep a book, in which I record the dates when the Piggyfriends have their Ivomec and wormer so that I don't forget their routine doses. Yesterday I was writing all their names on a new page and added his at the end of the list. I wrote Casanova without thinking so I guess that his name will stay after all. I had been thinking of names beginning with F as he resembles Frodo so closely but he says that he is happy with the name that Chris gave to him. So I wrote out a name card and pegged it to the pen. I have found out a little more of his story. The owner of the rescue from which he was adopted helps out her local branch of the RSPCA by taking piggies when she has room. He was one of a group of 20 or so boars who had all been kept together. She has been trying to pair them up for adoption but kept my little boy separate as he was being bullied by the others. It had seemed ideal to her when he was adopted by those people with the two sows and, if they had gone about it the right way, he may well have fitted in with their group but their loss is Lilac's and my gain. Imagine anyone keeping so many boars together. There could have been untold damage inflicted. My little one is obviously a lover not a fighter so the name Casanova will suit him well after all. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Tue Jun 17 15:08:30 2008 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:08:30 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [VIRTUAL] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Slave, It's me, Yaya! I know you are anxious about how we're doing. Especially since you plan to go camping yourself later this summer for the first time. Well, I must tell you, camping is really great! You know what the best part is? When you wake up in the morning you can stick your head outside your tent and just start eating. hmm.. I'm not sure you if like grass though... What is also very nice is that you can poo everywhere and the owner of the lawn your camping on is actally happy with that since poo is a great fertiliser.. Heehee.. so no 'you smell so bad, you guys should be renamed the Stinky team'!!! Bathing is not that great though. You know I prefer to have bath instead of licking myself clean (the very thought.. yuk). When i decide to have a shower, i put on my slippers, grab my gorgeous guinea shampoo and put a towel around my waist (that's not easy for a piggy, mind you. But i cannot have all those boars seeing me walking to the shower naked). Then I walk to the little house where the showers are (strangely deserted..) where I find out that I need a special coin in order to get hot water!!! Mumble mumble... So... when i finally do manage to get a coin and get down there again. I only get hot water for about 5 minutes!!!! Turns out that Igor secretly washed his hair too because of a stawberry-paintball incident. Tssssk.. It took him a while to work up the courage to get under the shower; that's why there was so little hot water left. No slave, I really have to admit, being carried to the bath, having a shampoo massage, being rinsed with water just the right temperature and then blowdried with nice warm hot air and curling up in a big pile of fresh hay... your bathing service is quite tolerable I suppose. Okay, gotta go, gulliver just got the fire going and I just love wheeking all the classic guinea pig songs. Yaya _________________________________________________________________ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/ From faststats at faststatschecks.com Tue Jun 17 16:51:07 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:51:07 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] misc: Eight great extinct species - Science- msnbc.com Message-ID: <008c01c8d0bb$ddfd0eb0$0200000a@MaryFran> Check out these big piggies : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25197251/?pg=4#EXTINCTspecies_science and http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077173/ --Mary Fran Piggyless From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 17 16:00:16 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual:Camping Message-ID: <738078.20454.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Lady Bug and I thank all slaves for their birthday wishes. A year ago I wasn't sure she'd make it this far, but as long as she gets her meds, she seems to do well. She arrived home safely last night and has been sleeping ever since. I think she's gained weight. Penny, you have some awfully good foraging at your house. I did mention her awful trick with Igor, the pipe and cheating. All she said was that it was so much fun she just couldn't bring herself to feel bad about the whole affair. What a brat! She did do something that completely amazed me. She said I could use some of her very fine oil that she received for her cane. Of course she ordered me that while I was oiling my cane I could do hers as well. I just did as I was told and must agree, it is a very fine oil and I wish I could get some here. She told me she found the matches for last nights campfire and hid them. She was still giggling over that little prank when she went to sleep. She could just imagine everyone looking for them. Anyway, thank you very much Penny and Piggyfriends for having both a camp out and hosting LB's birthday. She expects more good things to eat here at home when she wakes up, of course, so must go and prepare a special salad for her. Joan/Lady Bug From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jun 17 17:13:57 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:13:57 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Camping update Message-ID: <011701c8d0bf$11ca7130$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Hi everyone, Gulliver Piggyfriend here again. We had a great day yesterday but I couldn't post about it because Slave's stupid server went wrong again. In the morning we all went to play paintball at the adventure park along the road. The older piggies sat in the cafe and enjoyed the sunshine whilst the rest of us formed teams for the game. There are too many of us for one team so we made up Piggyfriends A, Piggyfriends B etc. Other piggies made up groups too. The Winky piggies made another team with Fugly and Captain Jack, who made a late appearance at Lady Bug's party on Sunday. I am sure that he will want to write his own story so I won't spoil it for you. We all got very messy and Slave said that we looked like a rainbow when she came back to collect us. She drove us to Roly's farm, where we grazed one of his fields and Slave filled bags with leaves and other nibbles for afternoon snacks. Roly has some lakes where humans can fish so we were able to clean ourselves up a bit by standing in the shallow end. We had to be careful not to be nibbled by the fish as some of them are very big. Some humans were setting up tents and fishing gear by the lake and told us to be quiet and not frighten the fish. Those fish didn't look very frightened to me. Slave says that they hold competitions to see who can catch the biggest fish and then they put them back to be caught again. It seems a silly way to spend a day to me. Paintball is much more fun. After lunch Lady Bug had to be taken to the airport as her slave needed her back home. We were all so sad to see her go. She was laden with presents and snacks for the journey and had several balloons to take home for Joan. I do hope that she can visit again soon. Some piggies had to go home today so there were lots of tears amidst the laughter and less tents on the lawn. Slave is so pleased that the lawn is being fertilised. She says that the grass will grow quicker now so that can't be bad. We have just finished watching Holland play Romania in the football competition on the television and Team Winky were jumping up and down when Holland won. Van Pigsie scored another goal. Wheeeeek!! Now we are going outside for what is probably our last campfire evening. Don't worry Slaves. Everypig is OK and still no-one has fallen in the pond but tomorrow is another day. Wheeks to all, Gulliver, spokespig for the Piggyfriends. From pamrod9542 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 17 21:21:40 2008 From: pamrod9542 at sbcglobal.net (Pamela Rodgers) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Lady Bug the birhday girl Message-ID: <146673.72740.qm@web82501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Amos and I would like to wish Lady Bug a very Happy 6th Birhday !!!!!!! Hugs and Wheeks, Pam and Amos From dganley at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jun 17 23:12:39 2008 From: dganley at tampabay.rr.com (Deb Ganley) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:12:39 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] announcement-lady bug's birthday Message-ID: <007601c8d0f1$2ac94b70$0301a8c0@debbie47340559> Sorry to send belated wishes, but we missed the post! A very Happy Birthday to you, Lady Bug--oh my gosh, you're 6??? You certainly don't look it! Lots of love from Deb & the Florida 4 From Algernon07 at aol.com Tue Jun 17 23:58:32 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:58:32 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Captain Jack missing in action, probably having adventures somewhere Message-ID: Dear Every Pig and Every Person -- and especially the Piggy friends and you dashing group of boars who always seem to get into mischief...where is Captain Jack? Is he there with you - I've heard that he left. But where did he go. Any pig that takes a Pirate as his role model. I hate to think. He seems to think he commands quite a swashbuckling presence. I have heard that he bought a black eye patch is is referring to himself as "a black patch pirate." Who knows what else is going on. I hope he doesn't try to cross the Antantic in a dingy!! Alge <---- a worried mum ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From Algernon07 at aol.com Wed Jun 18 00:02:38 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:02:38 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement : Birthday Message-ID: Dear Lady Bug, I would like to wish you a very happy 6th birthday. I have a birthday coming up on Thursday but I'm a lot more than 6. You are defintely one of our starts, you and your beloved Duke. Alge <---- who is still looking for that Captain Jack ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From faststats at faststatschecks.com Wed Jun 18 13:01:21 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:01:21 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Silly: Pig Years Message-ID: <001301c8d164$ef19a830$0200000a@MaryFran> Happy Birthday Alge! How old are you in pig years ? How many years is a pig year anyway ? --Mary Fran Piggiless still From magbfouts at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 13:04:53 2008 From: magbfouts at gmail.com (Maren Fouts) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:04:53 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Drooling - softer food? Message-ID: About a year ago Rosie started the drooling thing too. She would drool into her food which would make it disintegrate and just let the water she drank run down her chin. In her case it wasn't a tooth problem. It was actually a skin infection under her chin. She was losing hair under there too. I'm certainly not saying the drooling problem is not teeth. Just giving you something to look for. Her infection was easily cured. I just put a cream on it twice a day. The worst was getting her to lay back while I did it. My vet said the infection probably came from her water bottle or food bowl. He advised me to boil them or run them through the dishwasher twice a week. I run them through the dishwasher with no soap. Just the hot water to kill any bacteria that may be growing. Good luck and Piggy Kisses! Maren, Charlie, and Kaylee From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Wed Jun 18 22:56:55 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:56:55 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] (Care) vets Message-ID: <007f01c8d1b8$370548e0$513fc3ac@SANDY> Hi The House Rabbit Society maintains lists of recommendations for vets for bunnies, you can call each one to see if piggies are included this list includes many by are code including 415, 510 408 etc, the list by state http://www.rabbit.org/vets/vets.html the list refined to Calif Bay Area by area code http://www.rabbit.org/rabbit-center/resources/vets.html I have heard that one of the best is associated with the Univ Calif. at Berkeley but I didn't see her listed here specifically Sandy and manny the Boar (missing in cyberspace) From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Thu Jun 19 07:27:03 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:27:03 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] (SILLY) The tale of the missing piggies continues Message-ID: <013201c8d1ff$687b5d00$513fc3ac@SANDY> I have had a very disturbing report, a friend sent me a link to a MySpace video story. It seems a guinea pig, dressed as a pirate and wearing a flowing multicolored cape, was arrested in Trinidad, for bungee jumping off a bridge over a river gorge and for impersonating a pirate, such things are taken seriously in the Caribbean. Apparently he needed to have a guide with a permit, and he appeared to be slightly inebriated. He was bailed out by a Lady and Gentle pig both of whom seemed very agitated and upset, the Lady pig was crying into a lace handkerchief. I went to show the video to Alge but it had been pulled as inappropriate content. I haven't heard from Manny yet but I'm sure it was he and Peaches there with Captain Jack. I'm sure they will call or text or send a telegram, how can they travel further without funds, what about a passport!! I am just distraught, I know he and Peaches wanted more time together but to run off outside the U.S. Its so dangerous and Captain Jack seems a bit out of control, but if Manny and Peaches agreed to go I'm not sure who was chaperoning who, I didn't even know PigAir went to the Caribbean, OH! Manny please call, everything will be ok! just call! I am so worried, And I must apologize to Alge and Dee and Joe, I had advised Manny the night before he left on the wedding trip. We were talking about his feelings for Peaches, I told him he must follow his bliss, but to Trinidad? If anyone or anypig hears please let me know, in the meantime I will keep my line open Sad Sandy From momcat1000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 10:21:51 2008 From: momcat1000 at yahoo.com (joan fagalde) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc:Computer Message-ID: <17126.8654.qm@web39501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some of you have been emailing me and I just want to let you know that I'm currently having computer problems (thank you Microsoft and your stupid updates!!). I'm not ignoring you but it will take me a couple of days to sort it out. I will be back in touch. : ) Joan/Lady Bug From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jun 19 11:20:18 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:20:18 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Camp Piggyfriends Message-ID: <002a01c8d21f$ff136760$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Hi Slaves, Gulliver Piggyfriend here, If you are missing any piggies, I can tell you that the last few tents are being dismantled and the piggies are packing up to go home. It is getting very windy here and the tents are proving hard to take down. Maybe not everypig is trying as hard as they should. We are due some nasty wet and windy weather for tomorrow and the weekend so it is better for everypig to be safely at home again. I hope that Team Winky's ferry crossing will not be too rough. Slave is mowing the lawns before the rain comes so she needs the tents out of the way but the remaining piggies are catching the lawn clippings for a late lunch. A PigAir helicopter has just landed on the lawn. I had better go and see who it is for and wave them goodbye. Thank you slaves everywhere for allowing your piggies to attend our festivities. I hope that we can do it again sometime. Regards from Gulliver. From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 12:27:08 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Happy Birthday to Alge! Message-ID: <534852.41021.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Happy Birthday Alge! Enjoy your special day and may this year be a wonderful one for you! Hugs n' wheeks, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy and his bride, Baci, and Sweetie (who IS staying after all!) Don't buy while shelter animals die!? Adopt a pet. From calliope at geeksnet.com Thu Jun 19 15:52:18 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:52:18 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Alge Message-ID: <485AB8F2.7010208@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish a very Happy Birthday to Alge! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jun 19 16:55:14 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:55:14 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Birthday wishes Message-ID: <025001c8d24e$c9578fa0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Belated happy birthday wishes Alge! We hope that Captain Jack has returned safely. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 19 19:07:37 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:07:37 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wed, June 18, 2008 Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! Check out Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wednes, June 18, 2008: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/blog-june1808.aspx Also, if you have missed any of the previous posts, you can see them at: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/leah-default.aspx ENJOY!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake :-) From Dukejan1 at aol.com Thu Jun 19 20:41:48 2008 From: Dukejan1 at aol.com (Dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:41:48 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE: Welcome Luke Message-ID: All, My husband and I first saw a male guinea pig at a local pet store about 6 months ago. He was a cutie and we mused about having him. However, we had two sows that were having health problems and getting near the magical 5 year mark. Additionally, we wanted our next pig to come from a rescue organization. About 3 months ago, the pig was still not purchased but had been caged with another male near a sow. Needless to say, the little pig took a real beating from the other boar, lots of bite marks, a ripped up ear, etc. The pet store sent him off to be healed and he re-appeared as a back room piggie. His ear will never recover but the scabs have all healed. Well, to make a long story short, I came home from work today and my hubby had brought little Luke home. He is currently being housed in an adjoining bedroom on the third floor, as we don't want to stress Lily (now 5 1/2 year old) and Isabel (who has ovarian cysts --that, by the way, are responding well to her Lupron injections). Isabel will be 5 years old in about 6 weeks. The girls are living in their normal room--the "nursery" as we call it, on the first floor. Eventually, we plan on having Luke neutered and introducing him to the girls slowly. We pretty much had decided not to get him, but when we read about Penny bringing home Casanova--who had also been picked on by others-- we figured that any home we could give him would be better than what he currently had. While technically not a "rescue" pig, we think we rescued him since it is unlikely that Luke--8 months old with a chewed up ear--would be the first pig brought home from the pet store. Question: Should we try to introduce a neutered adolescent male to the 5 year old sows???? Or would we be better off continuing to house him separated from the girls????? I just don't want to stress Lily or Isabel needlessly..... on the other hand, they could think that Luke is great! Meanwhile, Luke is purring and snugggling with my husband and me. He obviously has had more love in one day than he had in the past 8 months. Janet, slave to Isabel, Lily, and Luke **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 12:16:40 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Welcome Luke! Message-ID: <282085.77785.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Janet! Congratulations on your new little boy!? Luke really needed YOU!? It always saddens me to think of how mistreated some little critters are, but those days are behind Luke now!? I agree:? Luke IS indeed a rescue!? While I don't purchase from pet stores, I think I would have brought Luke home, too. Yeah! Enjoy him and ... pigtures, please! Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy and his bride, Baci, and Sweetie, too! ?????????????????? Happy Summer! From Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com Fri Jun 20 12:21:17 2008 From: Kacee.Conklin at HCAHealthcare.com (Conklin Kacee) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:21:17 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to Luke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Munchees 17 and I would like to welcome Luke as well. He sounded like a "rescue" to me even though he came from a pet store. Sounds like a very lucky piggy to me. Luke should be kept separate from the other piggies for a month of quarantine. If you have him neutered, you should wait a month according to my vet before introducing them to females ... just in case there are any "leftovers" in there. Kacee and the Munchees 17 From l_zambrano at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 12:22:36 2008 From: l_zambrano at yahoo.com (Laura Zambrano) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: classroom pigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <415454.299.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi All: ? I rarely post anything but I am faced with a dilemma and could use input. I work at a daycare in the school age section. In the pre-K section I discovered there's a guinea pig in the classroom in a very small cage not even meeting minimum standards. He's never let out. He has the wrong food. I feel so sorry for him. One weekend, I got permission from the director to take him home for the weekend. I gave him the weekend of his life! When I brought him back Monday afternoon, the teacher of the classroom was mad I took him and scolded me. She said the kids were upset to see him gone Monday morning. Anyways, since then I've tried to encourage them to get a bigger cage. I go in at the end of the night and try to let him out when everyone's gone but sometimes I get caught by the people who work in that classroom. I walked in yesterday with a big note telling me not to open his cage or do anything with the cage. I usually add more hay since they don't seem to give him enough. What can I do to help this little guy? I feel he's just being used as a toy for these noisy 3 year olds and nothing more. I can't stop thinking about him. Next Friday is my last day there so I need to come up with some good ideas. Thanks for letting me ramble on! ? Laura Slave to Dolly my 5 yr old piggy. --- On Fri, 6/20/08, gpdd-request at gpdd.org wrote: From: gpdd-request at gpdd.org Subject: Gpdd Digest, Vol 7, Issue 188 To: gpdd at gpdd.org Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 9:00 AM Send Gpdd mailing list submissions to gpdd at gpdd.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gpdd-request at gpdd.org You can reach the person managing the list at gpdd-owner at gpdd.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Gpdd digest..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The GPDD moderators frequently reject messages that do not follow these guidelines: A lack of a Topic label is the most common reason for message rejection. 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(dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) 3. ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Alge (Cindy) 4. MISC Birthday wishes (Penny Charlesworth) 5. Announce: Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wed, June 18, 2008 (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) 6. ANNOUNCE: Welcome Luke (Dukejan1 at aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:20:18 +0100 From: "Penny Charlesworth" Subject: [Gpdd] VIRTUAL Camp Piggyfriends To: Message-ID: <002a01c8d21f$ff136760$0302a8c0 at inspiron1150> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Slaves, Gulliver Piggyfriend here, If you are missing any piggies, I can tell you that the last few tents are being dismantled and the piggies are packing up to go home. It is getting very windy here and the tents are proving hard to take down. Maybe not everypig is trying as hard as they should. We are due some nasty wet and windy weather for tomorrow and the weekend so it is better for everypig to be safely at home again. I hope that Team Winky's ferry crossing will not be too rough. Slave is mowing the lawns before the rain comes so she needs the tents out of the way but the remaining piggies are catching the lawn clippings for a late lunch. A PigAir helicopter has just landed on the lawn. I had better go and see who it is for and wave them goodbye. Thank you slaves everywhere for allowing your piggies to attend our festivities. I hope that we can do it again sometime. Regards from Gulliver. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Happy Birthday to Alge! To: gpdd at gpdd.org Message-ID: <534852.41021.qm at web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Happy Birthday Alge! Enjoy your special day and may this year be a wonderful one for you! Hugs n' wheeks, Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy and his bride, Baci, and Sweetie (who IS staying after all!) Don't buy while shelter animals die!? Adopt a pet. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:52:18 -0400 From: Cindy Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Alge To: gpdd at gpdd.org Message-ID: <485AB8F2.7010208 at geeksnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed We would like to wish a very Happy Birthday to Alge! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:55:14 +0100 From: "Penny Charlesworth" Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Birthday wishes To: Message-ID: <025001c8d24e$c9578fa0$0302a8c0 at inspiron1150> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Belated happy birthday wishes Alge! We hope that Captain Jack has returned safely. Penny and the Piggyfriends. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:07:37 -0400 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wed, June 18, 2008 To: gpdd at gpdd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Piggies & Slaves! Check out Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wednes, June 18, 2008: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/blog-june1808.aspx Also, if you have missed any of the previous posts, you can see them at: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/leah-default.aspx ENJOY!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake :-) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:41:48 EDT From: Dukejan1 at aol.com Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE: Welcome Luke To: gpdd at gpdd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" All, My husband and I first saw a male guinea pig at a local pet store about 6 months ago. He was a cutie and we mused about having him. However, we had two sows that were having health problems and getting near the magical 5 year mark. Additionally, we wanted our next pig to come from a rescue organization. About 3 months ago, the pig was still not purchased but had been caged with another male near a sow. Needless to say, the little pig took a real beating from the other boar, lots of bite marks, a ripped up ear, etc. The pet store sent him off to be healed and he re-appeared as a back room piggie. His ear will never recover but the scabs have all healed. Well, to make a long story short, I came home from work today and my hubby had brought little Luke home. He is currently being housed in an adjoining bedroom on the third floor, as we don't want to stress Lily (now 5 1/2 year old) and Isabel (who has ovarian cysts --that, by the way, are responding well to her Lupron injections). Isabel will be 5 years old in about 6 weeks. The girls are living in their normal room--the "nursery" as we call it, on the first floor. Eventually, we plan on having Luke neutered and introducing him to the girls slowly. We pretty much had decided not to get him, but when we read about Penny bringing home Casanova--who had also been picked on by others-- we figured that any home we could give him would be better than what he currently had. While technically not a "rescue" pig, we think we rescued him since it is unlikely that Luke--8 months old with a chewed up ear--would be the first pig brought home from the pet store. Question: Should we try to introduce a neutered adolescent male to the 5 year old sows???? Or would we be better off continuing to house him separated from the girls????? I just don't want to stress Lily or Isabel needlessly..... on the other hand, they could think that Luke is great! Meanwhile, Luke is purring and snugggling with my husband and me. He obviously has had more love in one day than he had in the past 8 months. Janet, slave to Isabel, Lily, and Luke **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gpdd mailing list Gpdd at gpdd.org http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org End of Gpdd Digest, Vol 7, Issue 188 ************************************ From mfug at live.co.uk Fri Jun 20 08:09:27 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:09:27 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; Camping Message-ID: Hi mummy, well I might be coming home this weekend as the weather man says it is going to rain, Gulliver says they dont know what they are talking about, as last time they said it would rain they had lovely sunshine, so I may be home I might not. We couldnt have a camp fire the night Lady Bug went home as the matches had mysteriously vanished, due to carrot wine I cant remember where we found them in the end. I have 20 euros which I won from Igor..... oooops wasnt supposed to mention that. Igor had to have a shower after the strawberry bum incident heee heee he shrunk to about half the size when he was wet, not like me who stayed a big manly chunky piggie, although not chunky enough for LAPS yet but I am working on it. Shadow, Midnight and Casanova are great guys so full of energy it took me a long time to get them out of my tent so I could get some sleep, in the end Gulliver had to send them to bed. I am looking forward to more SAS games today and another camp fire with classic piggy songs, me and Igor may even dress up again and teach the new boars the cell block tango. Duke has escorted Lady Bug home so we are keeping in touch via text message, he sends us ideas for new games we can play, hope slave Penny doesnt notice the tea towels going missing hee hee Duke will have to tell you about that game. Gotta go and enjoy the sun Fugly the Fabulous Fearless Fighter _________________________________________________________________ All new Live Search at Live.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000006ukm/direct/01/ From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jun 20 08:29:21 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:29:21 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE Welcome Luke Message-ID: <003001c8d2d1$4badfa70$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Oh, well done Janet for bringing little Luke into your home. As far as I am concerned, any piggy brought from dire circumstances into a loving new home counts as a rescue, even when he comes from a pet shop. Luke will think that he has been rescued. Casanova is delighted that he was instrumental in giving this precious piggy a new chance in life. His friend, Lilac, has only one earflap so that will not be a hindrance to Luke making friends with Lily and Isabel! I can think of many times when I have introduced a young piggy to one or more older sows, usually when one is the last survivor of her group and a new arrival needs a friend. This often gives the older one(s) a new lease of life. When Luke has finished his quarantine on the third floor ( you never know what bugs he might have brought home from the pet shop ) why not bring him downstairs and place his cage next to that of the girls? They will all love the company. Personally, I never neuter my boars, although some arrive that way. There is no local vet that I would trust with this procedure but if you have a experienced cavy vet, you might like to proceed. Of course, I am likely to have another boar arrive soon that I can pair up with the original one so neutering is unnecessary. Occasionally I have an odd one without anypig with whom to partner him and I always put the singleton next to another pen so that he can gossip through the wire. Piggies really do love company, especially when slaves are out at work. My dear old Sam, who came neutered, will not share his space with anypig, male or female, but he lives next door to Gulliver and Roscoe, both intact boars, and spends hours chatting to them through the wire. I put their food bowls and piles of grass close to the wire and he probably thinks that he lives with them. Once again, thank you for giving little Luke a new home, Give him a hug from us all, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From calliope at geeksnet.com Fri Jun 20 14:34:28 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:34:28 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, Hershey Message-ID: <485BF834.8090907@geeksnet.com> Dana, we are so very sorry to hear of Hershey's passing. We wish your neighbors had accepted your offer to adopt him so he could have friends. At least it is good that he had warm shelter and timothy hay in his diet. Although our condolences are very belated, we have asked our Bridge piggies to seek Hershey out and make him feel very welcome in his new home. Please know that he understood that you cared about him and that he certainly enjoyed your visits. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Fri Jun 20 14:51:55 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:51:55 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: very belated condolences, Bess Message-ID: <485BFC4B.9060103@geeksnet.com> Kay, please accept our very belated condolences on Bess's passing. We are so very sorry for your loss. Although she lived to be almost six, we know that piggies are never with us long enough. Thank you for telling the story of how she warned you when your stove began smoking. She obviously was thanking you in advance for how you would later save her life so many times. How amazing that she overcame a bladder stone, dilated cardiomyopathy, and the amputation of her toes. We think she earned the name Brave Bess in many different ways. What a survivor she was. Bess was so lucky that you were so loving and attentive and it is a tribute to your wonderful care that she lived more than a year after her heart diagnosis, when the vets thought she might only have a week. We are glad that her passing was so peaceful, with you holding her; we know she had a safe journey to the other side from the comfort of your arms. Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their families. Sadly, Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From kaplans at peoplepc.com Fri Jun 20 18:46:30 2008 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:46:30 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] ivermectin? Message-ID: <000201c8d337$144c0ed0$0d1ef304@stephensucks> Hi Everyone, I have a question about ivermectin. Can I give it to rabbits? We have rabbits and pigs together and the bunnies have gotten mite from the pigs. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you to everyone in advance. Sarah and the piggy gang and bunnies. From Algernon07 at aol.com Sat Jun 21 03:06:42 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:06:42 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Luke Message-ID: I was warmed reading the rescue of little Luke!! No dvice on getting the piggies together but I applaud you for taking him! He very obviously needed a good home. Congrats!! Alge and the missing in Trinidad Captain Jack ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sat Jun 21 03:27:09 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:27:09 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: A very bad photo of Captian Jack Message-ID: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/guinea-pigs/default.aspx If you scroll down far enough you'll see him from a different (& improved) perspective. http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/blog/viewbio.aspx?apid=87245 (And OK Leah --- all this came about just because I was reading the Princess's blog. By the way -- what happened to the Prince and Princess's plan to spend time in Europe, possibly even living there? I knew you'd never let them get so far away. :) By the way, in spite of my well known lack of skills, I did not take this photo -- a friend in a hurry took it with her cell phone and sent it to my email address so I could get it into the computer. Didn't come out too well tho, did it? Alge <----who suspects a nasty nip from Cap'n Jack when he sees this terrible photo of himself. He'll be sure that his image will be shot. Those streetcreds, right, Fugly? ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jun 21 12:27:22 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:27:22 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Photo of Captain Jack Message-ID: <002301c8d3bb$b354bfc0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Alge, What a sweetie! Don't you dare tell him I said so, though! We all know that he thinks he is a swashbuckling pirate and international adventurer but he still looks cute and cuddly to me. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From Dukejan1 at aol.com Sat Jun 21 12:38:45 2008 From: Dukejan1 at aol.com (Dukejan1 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:38:45 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Update on Luke Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded regarding Luke. As pet stores go, this certainly is one of the better ones--a mom and pop store. I think the problem came in when Luke's original cagemate was adopted out and they put him in the cage with the new boar. Even though sows were present, the original cagemate and Luke got along fine---perhaps because they were from the same litter. The newcomer and Luke were like oil and water..... I eventually hope to house the piggies on the same floor, maybe even all in the nursery. But I'm going very slowly right now. Luke is going to the vet for a wellness check on Tuesday. Now that the weekend is here, I'm trying to make his current home surroundings more comfy....shelves, bedding nearby, etc. I sure hope Lily and Isabel learn to love their brother!!!!! Right now the girls are running around my feet, probably trying to read the monitor screen for clues on what's happening...... Janet **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jun 21 13:17:29 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:17:29 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] misc;Luke Message-ID: Welcome to Luke, as far as I am concerned you have rescued him, even if he is from a petshop, its not the piggies fault that he needed rescuing from a pet shop and not a proper rescue (if that makes sense) He is all set for a wonderful life now as a GPDD piggie Love M + Fugly From MFug at live.co.uk Sat Jun 21 13:21:30 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:21:30 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; Classroom Pig Message-ID: Hi Laura, that is a very tough decision you are facing, I am guessing you are in America, in the UK we have the RSPCA who we would report the school to they should then ensure that the piggy got the proper care it needed, do you have anything like that where you are? The other option is the local council again a UK word but I assume you have similar. Failing that can you offer to take the piggy and if they let you, you could then rehome to a loving home. I wish you the very best of luck M From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jun 21 13:37:08 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: attn: Laura re: classroom piggy Message-ID: <592253.83074.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Laura. I know what you're feeling.? It's very frustrating especially since you were 'scolded' by the teacher.? Is she taking the pig home for the summer?? Can you volunteer to take it? A similar thing happened to me.? When I was teaching 3rd grade, a first grade teacher had a bunny in a TINY cage.? Oh, it killed me.? She did let him out each afternoon after the children were gone, but all day long all he did was sit like a stuffed animal in a small cage without the proper food, toys to play with, hideys, etc. What I did was ask her if she would mind if I gave her a larger cage for him.? She said she'd love it (because she wasn't planning on buying one herself).? Well, I gave her a big cage (I know a lot of people and often get things donated...and I take everything as someone always needs something!) and I would feed the rabbit fresh veggies every day.? Sadly, I left that June, but at least he had larger quarters. Do you or someone you know have a bigger cage?? If not, check ads...sometimes people are happy to get rid of their stuff (for free).? I hope you can help this little pig! Keep us posted. Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy (and his bride), Baci, Sweetie Opt to Adopt!? Don't buy your next pet! ?????????????????? Happy Summer! From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Sat Jun 21 15:08:48 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:08:48 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] ivermectin?(long) Message-ID: <005801c8d3d2$3e1ab630$037fbfac@SANDY> Yes Ivermectin is fine for rabbits and piggies if administered carefully according to weight and the instructions bellow. here is the dosage http://www.medirabbit.com/Safe_medication/Safe_drugs_main.htm note the two different dosage amounts depend on the type of medication; the injectable liquid, or the horsepaste version available in farm and feed stores in the horse section. I have used the horsepaste at home safely for 15 years but many people on the best rabbit group, etherbun, think I'm nuts, however don't give it to cats and dogs without a vet, some breeds are very sensitive and dogs and cats are much more sensitive to dosage errors than piggies and buns, and some breeds of dogs cant tolerate it at all. Have the vet advise you on the cats and dogs, and if you are nervous talk to them about the using the horsespaste at home for your pigs and buns. Also note that it is a poison that's why it kills many sorts of parasites although not all, but its especially goods for all sorts of mites. So it should be used very carefully, Google for overdose symptoms, weigh the pets carefully, measure accurately, and remember it has to repeated every 10 days for a total of three treatments to get all the eggs that hatch. Some years ago we had a lively discussion about this on this group and there was some worry that the drug may not be mixed evenly in the horsepaste version, but one of the members, I don't remember who, called a manufacturer who assured the caller that it was. Also note to always give horsepaste in the morning or whenever you would be home for many hours to observe for reactions In the subject of reactions, I will get brave and mention that the main reaction (although I have never had one in a piggie or bun) are that the animal may become wobbly in his gate (ataxia), his heart rate may slow, he may have trouble maintaining his body temperature, and he may go blind, all temporary unless the overdose is large enough that these symptoms cause death, and it can, and the symptoms can last from hours to days to longer. I used in improperly once in my cats ears, it caused these symptoms, which I didn't catch for several hours cause I took a long nap, woke up, cat has symptoms, I Googled, got instructions, too late for vet, decided to warm her with my body, her flat on my chest then a blanket, she started to recover almost immediately. Normally an overdose victim should go to the vet if it is soon enough that vomiting or charcoal could help (pigs and buns cant vomit), when I noticed my cat was having serious symptoms it was late night on a weekend, so it wasn't practical to go to the vet. If a bun or piggie were to be overdosed they cant vomit so that mitigation method is useless, the only thing a vet can do if you overdose an animal is to make them vomit and feed charcoal, and help maintain their heat, but piggies and buns cant vomit so I reiterate, be sure of your dosage and weight and use it only on buns and piggies. Of all the flack I got on etherbun, and by some knowledgeable people, no one ever reported an overdose, and I have never had one in a piggie or bun, but it would be wrong of me not repeat these warnings. This is the main page for Medirabbit www.medirabbit.com Sandy From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Sat Jun 21 18:31:10 2008 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:31:10 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: classroom pig in need of help In-Reply-To: <415454.299.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Laura Keep the note that was given to you telling you not to let the pig out. It is proof of the way these people are not taking proper care of the gp, and turning down your efforts to take proper care of him. Also, take as many photos as you can from lots of different angles, of the gp in this very small cage. This all counts as evidence. I don't know if you are in the UK or USA, but in either instance, call either the RSPCA of equivalent animal welfare group in the USA and report to them the conditions this animal lives in. They will have to go and inspect and the school will be issued with guidelines on what they have to supply as a minimum for the gp. They should be checked on after a time to make sure they have compiled. You could also try contacting any local guinea pig recues in the area for advice. They cannot keep a gp like that, as not only is it wrong but it sends out the totally wrong message to children and their parents about the size of cage o gp needs to live in. Animal welfare groups have guidelines on the size of cages animals require, and if the school is not providing this, they will have to if an inspector is called in to visit. If you don't feel you're getting anywhere, call the local papers with the story. If you feel you can't call because of how it may affect you, ask a friend or family member to call. The school will not like the attention and will respond. Don't let the school get away with it. There won't be a GPDD reader who isn't right behind you willing you on for this gp. Don't give up, and remain persitant. YOU are in the right, not them. If the school get cheesed off enough they may want to give the gp up and then you can at least get it out of there and to a good rescue, so it can be found the right home. Good luck, and please let us all know how it all goes. Thank goodness that gp has you helping him, as he really needs you. Kind regards Carole From kaplans at peoplepc.com Sat Jun 21 18:07:50 2008 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:07:50 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] HEalth {rolled oats} Message-ID: <009301c8d3eb$55c7c570$261cf304@stephensucks> Hi, Everyone, We have rabbits and guineas together and they all get rolled oats. The vet said that we shouldn't give rolled oats to them. Does anyone know why and know any other whole grain that we could give instead? Thanks Sarah and the piggy gang. From dganley at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jun 21 22:05:16 2008 From: dganley at tampabay.rr.com (Deb Ganley) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:05:16 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Care:Classroom pigs Message-ID: <008b01c8d40c$6a25d720$0301a8c0@debbie47340559> Your post struck a nerve in me since I also work in a school (elementary, K-5) that allows small animals as classroom pets. I am so against the idea--my Molly came from a private school that let their pigs breed, to the point that there were 30 taken out by Humane--& Molly was the only pig deemed to be adoptable. The other 29 were euthanized since they were thought to be almost feral. Anyway--I've pigsat many times for 2 girls that we love dearly, Addison & Seraphina. They're the classroom pets of a kindergarten teacher that I'm pretty friendly with--but I've faced the same issues you have. I've brought them treats on a Monday AM, after they've been on their own all weekend, & they tear the plastic bag from my hand, trying to get to the veggies they haven't had in 2 days. The teacher would leave them for a 3-day weekend, which made the veggie situation even worse--another day without veggies & hay. I finally started "kidnapping" the girls & emailing her to let her know where they are (were.) She'll also send the girls home with any kid who's family is willing to take them--a disaster waiting to happen. Pigs need stability & a forever home. This teacher finally has come to her senses somewhat & has gotten better in her care. I end up taking care of the girls while she goes away for a week or so at a time, over the summer now--but at least she isn't pawning the girls off on any kid's family who will take them. She brings them home with her & we have them while they're away. Talk to the director again--from what you said, she seemed receptive to input about the little guy's situation. She may even be able to ban classroom animals--I have a new principal & AP in my school now & I know I'm going to talk to them over the summer about that. No, 3 year olds don't remember where the bathroom is on Monday, never mind being upset if the animal is gone over the weekend. Please let me know how you make out--Deb & the Florida 4 (& Potter, always in our hearts.) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sat Jun 21 22:24:42 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:24:42 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Classroom piggy Message-ID: Take photos, document as much as you can and threaten (non-theateningly) to get in touch with the proper animal "watch dog" agencies. Perhaps a vet can supply you with literature and other help. Me thinks the teacher is a bit territorial and obviously resents your, what she would perceive as, "intrusion." Can you speak with the school Principal or who ever is in charge? Perhaps you could enlist the help of some activist vet. A letterhead letter might be all it would take, threatening confiscation if it isn't provided better accomodations and nourishment. I for one (among many on here) DO NOT believe guinea pigs belong in classrooms. Good luck, Alge ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From Algernon07 at aol.com Sat Jun 21 22:27:17 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:27:17 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Classroom guinea pig/PS Message-ID: You could also write a letter to the editor of your local paper or do a short over view article, pointing out that these little children are NOT being taught to adequately care for the needs of other beings. A good teacher coud pull the lesson off quite well. Alge ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From dr.leibq at hotmail.com Sun Jun 22 01:42:41 2008 From: dr.leibq at hotmail.com (Ruth Leibowitz) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: poor schoolroom guinea pig Message-ID: My heart goes out to this little guinea pig in the classroom. Is there someone in authority who you could speak to about the values being taught to the children if they are not being taught to properly care for the guinea pig? From an educational point of view, the school is missing an opportunity to use the guinea pig as a vehicle for the children to learn empathy, to think about what kind of creature a guinea pig is and what it needs to be happy, etc. Could you provide written educational material about the care of guinea pigs -- some people just don't have a clue and are amenable when they are educated. It sounds like maybe there is a power struggle between you and that particular teacher -- perhaps providing written materials or even a nice children's guinea pig book that can be read out loud in the classroom could help. Are there other teachers or employees who are animal lovers there who could take up the cause after you are gone? This sounds like a difficult situation -- and the poor piggy ends up not having the life he could have because of it. This could be such a great opportunity for education, if you or an ally there could figure out a win-win strategy. Just some thoughts on the matter. Ruth in Portland _________________________________________________________________ The i?m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.? For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sun Jun 22 04:49:28 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:49:28 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Classroom piggy Message-ID: <003e01c8d444$e2fd87f0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> I am assuming that you are in the US from your post about the classroom piggy. Here, in England, I would notify the RSPCA, who could send an inspector along to the school, to ensure that the little fellow had adequate housing and that he was being fed correctly. Maybe some of our American members can advise you which agency you could contact for help. Is there a more senior teacher to whom you could speak who might carry more authority? Here it would be a headmaster/mistress but I don't know the correct terminology for an American school. Could you send photos to a local newspaper with the piggy's story without getting yourself in any trouble? When my sons were at primary school ( 5 - 11 years ) it was decided by the teachers that it would be a "good idea" to have some guinea pigs in the school. My heart sank when my boys told me about them. The teacher in charge of them obviously knew nothing about piggies other than you put them in a hutch. There was a rota made with a list of which child was responsible for the piggies that week and these poor piggies went home with whichever child's mother had room for the hutch in her car. Not being, as you might be, in a position to lose a job, I kicked up a fuss over these piggies and the headmaster was willing for me to go along to the school to give a little talk about guinea pig care. I tried to aim it both at the children and the teachers who were more likely to take notice. I also made sure that I turned up early every Friday to pignap the little ones and we also cared for them over the school holidays. My sons took fresh veggies in for them every day and I left a bale of hay by their hutch. To my sons, having lived in my piggy sanctuary from birth, it was second nature to ensure that the water bottle was filled and that the piggies had enough food. When my youngest finally left the school, we had the piggies over the holiday and no-one ever asked why we had not taken them back for the next school year. I wish you good luck with your little piggy and hope that you are able to turn his life around for the better. Please keep us all informed as to your progress. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From MFug at live.co.uk Sun Jun 22 12:26:47 2008 From: MFug at live.co.uk (M) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:26:47 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; camping Message-ID: Well Fugly has arrived home and typical boy that he is he has left me a pile of washing and gone straight to bed!! He was muttering something about Igor and a bet and grinning stupidly. Ahh well I am just glad to have him home again M From me at buddies.org Sun Jun 22 13:46:30 2008 From: me at buddies.org (New Dominant II) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:46:30 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Balance In-Reply-To: <001101c88099$e4b248a0$671af304@stephensucks> Message-ID: Sarah, I know this is really a late reply ... but I'm way behind on my guinea pig reading. Anyway, are you sure the infection is completely gone? Ear infections are extremely stubborn to treat. That would be my first concern, especially if she loses her sense of balance easily. I have a pig who had a mild ear infection a few years ago (she's 4.5 years old now). She still keeps her head tilted most of the time, though sometimes she straightens it out when she relaxes. I have to be careful when I pick her up or she may roll over if I don't set her down just right. Also, she can't always keep her balance on her two hind legs, but she's better at it now (I gently lift her front paws and get her to balance on her hind legs). For the most part, though, she's like her old self. on 3/7/08 1:26 PM, kaplans at peoplepc.com at kaplans at peoplepc.com wrote: > I have a question. I have a piggy that when she was young she got a very bad > inner ear infection that caused damage to the brain stem. She has trouble > finding her sense of balance and she can easily fall over. Well my question > is, is there any thing that I could do to help her? Maybe like therapy that I > could do at home. I don't have a lot of money that I can spend on a vet or > stuff like that. If you have any suggestions that would help please let me > know. > > Sarah and her White One From kaplans at peoplepc.com Sun Jun 22 18:07:05 2008 From: kaplans at peoplepc.com (kaplans at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:07:05 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Health {rolled oats} Message-ID: <008301c8d4b4$4fb3bbc0$0f1df304@stephensucks> Hi again, Let me clarify that the rolled oats that I give my animals are not cooked or in an oatmeal form. They are the kind that horses eat. Sarah and the piggy gang. From juwles at bigpond.com Mon Jun 23 02:04:24 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:04:24 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEalth {rolled oats} In-Reply-To: <009301c8d3eb$55c7c570$261cf304@stephensucks> References: <009301c8d3eb$55c7c570$261cf304@stephensucks> Message-ID: <39906BE631ED4817AA52F403BECC1136@JuliePC> Hi Sarah I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind not giving rolled oats to piggies, but I can add please DO NOT give brand to your piggies, in any form. I lost a most beloved piggy last year to teething problems, he ended up not being able to eat, needing his teeth trimmed weekly, being syringe fed for 7 months and with arthritis in the back molars - partly due to eating bran, which apparently stops the piggy's bodies from absorbing calcium as a dental vet told me. The piggies loved the bran, but there's no way bran comes within a mile of my dear ones now. I'd be interested to find out why not rolled oats, but I don't feed my piggies that anyway - I won't risk it. Cheers Julie & her boys From piggyfriends at tesco.net Mon Jun 23 05:06:16 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:06:16 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Rolled Oats Message-ID: <001801c8d510$68c89cf0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> The Piggyfriends have been given a dry mix of grains and grass pellets from time immemorial. This contains oats but, as so many things are lost in translation, this is what my oats look like. They are flat, almost circular and are no more than 1/4 in. in diameter. When I used to mix my own, the petshop labelled them as crushed oats. So, if these oats are the ones in question, there is no reason no to use them. My Rodentologists feed the same mix to their piggies and these are also used at the CCT ( Cavy Hospital ). This bowl of dried mix is only there as "something to eat between meals" and not as a substitute for the copious quantities of veg that the herd devour every day. I can't comment on bran other than having a distant memory of it being sprinkled on food by my granny and that's enough to put me off using it for anything. Yuk. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From littlemutt22 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 23 12:27:54 2008 From: littlemutt22 at hotmail.com (Joy Wong) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] flies in piggie's cage Message-ID: Hi all, Whitefield, my piggy seems to attract an endless amount of small flies (not the housefly variety) even though he is cleaned (he takes a bath once a week) and his cage is cleaned daily. The flies just keep coming. I've tried spraying deodorizers etc. but they don't work very well. Anyone has any tips to keep the flies at bay. The flies look like the fruit fly variety and are probably attracted to Whitefield's poop and urine smell. I did check with the vet. He said that as long as the flies aren't laying any eggs or Whitty doesn't have any open wounds, it should be okay. in need of advice, joylania and whitty
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I took the opportunity to show her that he was popcorning and having a great time. I told her he has no room to do that in his current cage. I think she got the point and saw for herself which led to her decision to change the cage situation. I will let you all know what happens when I get there today. I will also print material out to give them on proper food and toys, etc. I'm also going to offer to bring him home for the upcoming 3 day weekend. Thanks again for your input!!! ? Laura in Austin, TX, USA and Dolly the pig --- On Mon, 6/23/08, gpdd-request at gpdd.org wrote: From: gpdd-request at gpdd.org Subject: Gpdd Digest, Vol 7, Issue 191 To: gpdd at gpdd.org Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 9:00 AM Send Gpdd mailing list submissions to gpdd at gpdd.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gpdd-request at gpdd.org You can reach the person managing the list at gpdd-owner at gpdd.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Gpdd digest..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The GPDD moderators frequently reject messages that do not follow these guidelines: A lack of a Topic label is the most common reason for message rejection. 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MISC Classroom piggy (Penny Charlesworth) 3. virtual; camping (M) 4. Re: [Health] Balance (New Dominant II) 5. Health {rolled oats} (kaplans at peoplepc.com) 6. Re: HEalth {rolled oats} (Julie Juwles Johnson) 7. HEALTH Rolled Oats (Penny Charlesworth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:42:41 -0500 From: Ruth Leibowitz Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: poor schoolroom guinea pig To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" My heart goes out to this little guinea pig in the classroom. Is there someone in authority who you could speak to about the values being taught to the children if they are not being taught to properly care for the guinea pig? >From an educational point of view, the school is missing an opportunity to use the guinea pig as a vehicle for the children to learn empathy, to think about what kind of creature a guinea pig is and what it needs to be happy, etc. Could you provide written educational material about the care of guinea pigs -- some people just don't have a clue and are amenable when they are educated. It sounds like maybe there is a power struggle between you and that particular teacher -- perhaps providing written materials or even a nice children's guinea pig book that can be read out loud in the classroom could help. Are there other teachers or employees who are animal lovers there who could take up the cause after you are gone? This sounds like a difficult situation -- and the poor piggy ends up not having the life he could have because of it. This could be such a great opportunity for education, if you or an ally there could figure out a win-win strategy. Just some thoughts on the matter. Ruth in Portland _________________________________________________________________ The i?m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.? For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:49:28 +0100 From: "Penny Charlesworth" Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Classroom piggy To: Message-ID: <003e01c8d444$e2fd87f0$0302a8c0 at inspiron1150> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am assuming that you are in the US from your post about the classroom piggy. Here, in England, I would notify the RSPCA, who could send an inspector along to the school, to ensure that the little fellow had adequate housing and that he was being fed correctly. Maybe some of our American members can advise you which agency you could contact for help. Is there a more senior teacher to whom you could speak who might carry more authority? Here it would be a headmaster/mistress but I don't know the correct terminology for an American school. Could you send photos to a local newspaper with the piggy's story without getting yourself in any trouble? When my sons were at primary school ( 5 - 11 years ) it was decided by the teachers that it would be a "good idea" to have some guinea pigs in the school. My heart sank when my boys told me about them. The teacher in charge of them obviously knew nothing about piggies other than you put them in a hutch. There was a rota made with a list of which child was responsible for the piggies that week and these poor piggies went home with whichever child's mother had room for the hutch in her car. Not being, as you might be, in a position to lose a job, I kicked up a fuss over these piggies and the headmaster was willing for me to go along to the school to give a little talk about guinea pig care. I tried to aim it both at the children and the teachers who were more likely to take notice. I also made sure that I turned up early every Friday to pignap the little ones and we also cared for them over the school holidays. My sons took fresh veggies in for them every day and I left a bale of hay by their hutch. To my sons, having lived in my piggy sanctuary from birth, it was second nature to ensure that the water bottle was filled and that the piggies had enough food. When my youngest finally left the school, we had the piggies over the holiday and no-one ever asked why we had not taken them back for the next school year. I wish you good luck with your little piggy and hope that you are able to turn his life around for the better. Please keep us all informed as to your progress. Penny and the Piggyfriends. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:26:47 +0100 From: "M" Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; camping To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well Fugly has arrived home and typical boy that he is he has left me a pile of washing and gone straight to bed!! He was muttering something about Igor and a bet and grinning stupidly. Ahh well I am just glad to have him home again M ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:46:30 -0700 From: New Dominant II Subject: Re: [Gpdd] [Health] Balance To: Guinea Pig Daily Digest Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sarah, I know this is really a late reply ... but I'm way behind on my guinea pig reading. Anyway, are you sure the infection is completely gone? Ear infections are extremely stubborn to treat. That would be my first concern, especially if she loses her sense of balance easily. I have a pig who had a mild ear infection a few years ago (she's 4.5 years old now). She still keeps her head tilted most of the time, though sometimes she straightens it out when she relaxes. I have to be careful when I pick her up or she may roll over if I don't set her down just right. Also, she can't always keep her balance on her two hind legs, but she's better at it now (I gently lift her front paws and get her to balance on her hind legs). For the most part, though, she's like her old self. on 3/7/08 1:26 PM, kaplans at peoplepc.com at kaplans at peoplepc.com wrote: > I have a question. I have a piggy that when she was young she got a very bad > inner ear infection that caused damage to the brain stem. She has trouble > finding her sense of balance and she can easily fall over. Well my question > is, is there any thing that I could do to help her? Maybe like therapy that I > could do at home. I don't have a lot of money that I can spend on a vet or > stuff like that. If you have any suggestions that would help please let me > know. > > Sarah and her White One ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:07:05 -0700 From: Subject: [Gpdd] Health {rolled oats} To: "Guinea Pig Daily Digest" Message-ID: <008301c8d4b4$4fb3bbc0$0f1df304 at stephensucks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi again, Let me clarify that the rolled oats that I give my animals are not cooked or in an oatmeal form. They are the kind that horses eat. Sarah and the piggy gang. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:04:24 +1000 From: "Julie Juwles Johnson" Subject: Re: [Gpdd] HEalth {rolled oats} To: , "Guinea Pig Daily Digest" Message-ID: <39906BE631ED4817AA52F403BECC1136 at JuliePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Sarah I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind not giving rolled oats to piggies, but I can add please DO NOT give brand to your piggies, in any form. I lost a most beloved piggy last year to teething problems, he ended up not being able to eat, needing his teeth trimmed weekly, being syringe fed for 7 months and with arthritis in the back molars - partly due to eating bran, which apparently stops the piggy's bodies from absorbing calcium as a dental vet told me. The piggies loved the bran, but there's no way bran comes within a mile of my dear ones now. I'd be interested to find out why not rolled oats, but I don't feed my piggies that anyway - I won't risk it. Cheers Julie & her boys ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:06:16 +0100 From: "Penny Charlesworth" Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Rolled Oats To: Message-ID: <001801c8d510$68c89cf0$0302a8c0 at inspiron1150> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The Piggyfriends have been given a dry mix of grains and grass pellets from time immemorial. This contains oats but, as so many things are lost in translation, this is what my oats look like. They are flat, almost circular and are no more than 1/4 in. in diameter. When I used to mix my own, the petshop labelled them as crushed oats. So, if these oats are the ones in question, there is no reason no to use them. My Rodentologists feed the same mix to their piggies and these are also used at the CCT ( Cavy Hospital ). This bowl of dried mix is only there as "something to eat between meals" and not as a substitute for the copious quantities of veg that the herd devour every day. I can't comment on bran other than having a distant memory of it being sprinkled on food by my granny and that's enough to put me off using it for anything. Yuk. Penny and the Piggyfriends. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gpdd mailing list Gpdd at gpdd.org http://gpdd.org/mailman/listinfo/gpdd_gpdd.org End of Gpdd Digest, Vol 7, Issue 191 ************************************ From faststats at faststatschecks.com Mon Jun 23 15:00:27 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:00:27 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] misc : Classroom piggies Message-ID: <001801c8d563$66327300$0200000a@MaryFran> Dear Piggy Friends, I cannot agree with you that piggies should never be in the classroom. Our family's entry into the guinea pig world came about as the result of a special gp in the classroom, and certainly many of the children/teachers/parents became piggy slaves as a result as well. Being a classroom pet does not immediately translate into a badly treated pet, and saying "no pets" unilaterally, to me, is another encroachment on our personal freedoms. May I share with you again the story of Miss Hedgy... The talk of classroom pets reminded me of a fine GP whose story deserves to be told. When my daughter was in first grade (she's 26 now) Miss Hedgy was donated to Mrs. Bliss's classroom at Sun Valley School on Happy Lane in San Rafael, CA. She was so named for the jerky, funny piggie movements that we all know so well. Hedgy made slaves of hundreds of students, teachers, and parents over her lifetime, and our family was fortunate to be able to bring her home on holidays, my first experience with guinea pigs. As smart as any of her slaves, or more so, Miss Hedgy took being a first-grade pig in stride. Being passed around to endless sticky, inept hands was accepted and embraced by her as part of life. When the little ones outside her cage became an annoyance, she would pick her blanket up by her teeth and fling it over herself to obtain some well-deserved privacy. My funniest story about this steady furball -- once I decided to spruce up her cage by vacuuming it with the vacuum hose while she was still inside. How did Hedgy react? Her natural curiosity and desire for lifelong learning (she was a school pig, after all) compelled her to come right up to that hose to sniff and observe. Noise, after all, she was used to! When my son, now 24, was in fifth grade, Miss Hedgy passed away. Tears fell like rain as the school principle visited each and every classroom to bring the sad news. She was a pet to all. Remembering Miss Hedgy. --Mary Fran (Still piggyless) From davedave121 at aol.com Mon Jun 23 16:20:36 2008 From: davedave121 at aol.com (davedave121 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:20:36 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] care classroom pig Message-ID: <8CAA385BB4D502A-8EC-23B5@WEBMAIL-DC07.sysops.aol.com> Hi Laura I felt a deep sense of sadness when I read your sub on the sad little classroom pig and Ruth in Portland has written everything I wanted to say only much more eloquently (nice one Ruth), I agree you are in a very difficult situation, and it really must be hurting you. don?t give up on this pig, it deserves a life. If, at the end of the day you don?t win, take heart in the fact that you have tried .I do so hope there is a happy ending Best of luck and please keep us posted. All our best wishes Dave, Yvonne, and the herd at Piggy palace. UK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From undermyskin11 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 23 18:37:28 2008 From: undermyskin11 at hotmail.com (lucky duck) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:37:28 -1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] happy news! Message-ID: Good morning everyone ;) I posted like a super long time ago about my cavy, Peanut. I took him to the vet about his teeth being crooked for regular teeth trims and had been painstakingly(sp) hand feeding him veggie smoothies with a syringe (without the needle) for a few months. He is doing a world better! I am so happy! He can eat lettuce (but it takes him a long time to) and he can even eat carrots! I've been holding him and letting him eat by himself and I don't feel bad about sticking that stupid syringe in his mouth anymore. Well anyways.. it turns out that he has a over bite and will be crippled forever... :( We got him from the humane society, he had a weird ring around his bottom teeth (which were the ones that we had the most problems with.) Our vet took it off and trimmed his teeth and ever since then he has been way better. He now weighs 2 pounds 4 ounces (their is room for improvement) but that is way better then when we first got him. He just had his first birthday a few days ago. Okay, I just wanted to put this up because one question has been boggling my mind for a long time... What was the ring on his teeth? Does anyone have any ideas? The only information I have about the ring was that it was a yucky yellow color, it was about 1/8 of an inch wide and it was way down by his gums. Thanks for letting me ramble on! -Heather and Peanut (If I hadn't got him he was going to become a classroom cavy with his sister and probably would have bred to create more crooked teethed cavies that would not have lasted very long without starving!) ~Where would Peanut be without me? :D~ About the classroom cavy thing, I cant really help im sorry. All through school I have had cavies in my classroom and thought nothing of it. It was only when I got older and I met one of my teachers that has a cavy sanctuary and I helped him with that. (he taught me everything I know, and is always their if I need help :)) _________________________________________________________________ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=introsrchcashback From agbmcmd at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 10:35:25 2008 From: agbmcmd at yahoo.com (Audrey Binder) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] [Misc.] Gordon's Adoption Day Birthday Message-ID: <311279.22974.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Today is Gordon's 2nd Adoption Day Birthday!? He is 4 years old (we think), because he was adopted from the Metropolitan Guinea Pig Rescue 2 years ago, when he was listed as 2.? Tonight he will have a little party with his loving human grandparents, who may even sing to him (he loves that).? Gordon got extra carrot top greens and a lettuce stalk (his favorite) to chew on this morning, with breakfast.? He is one happy piggie! ? Audrey, Slave to Gordon, the Birthday Piggie From mfug at live.co.uk Tue Jun 24 12:18:39 2008 From: mfug at live.co.uk (M Fug) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:18:39 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] misc; Gordon Message-ID: Happy adoption Gordon, it sounds like you had fun. M + Fugly _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ From jannekestaaks at hotmail.com Tue Jun 24 12:18:41 2008 From: jannekestaaks at hotmail.com (Janneke Staaks) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:18:41 +0200 Subject: [Gpdd] [CARE} Message-ID: Hi! The best way to keep flies away, is to make shure they dont enter at all. My mom used to cover the cage of her pig with this really thin cloth so that the flies couldn't enter the cage.(i'm dutch and i'm having translating problems, but people here use it to in front of a window when there are a lot of instects flying around) I thought that was pretty clever. I think gorgeous guineas also has something for it...( http://www.gorgeousguineas.com/insects.html ) I can only use their shampoo since im in the netherlands, but if you're in the UK maybe thats worth a try. Janneke _________________________________________________________________ Probeer Live Search: de zoekmachine van de makers van MSN! http://www.live.com/?searchOnly=true From bunsnpigs at aol.com Tue Jun 24 12:49:32 2008 From: bunsnpigs at aol.com (bunsnpigs at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:49:32 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Gordon's Adoption Day Birthday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CAA43169422821-1684-ADD@webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com> Happy Adoption Day, Gordon! You handsome boy, you!!! Love from Judi From staileys at comcast.net Tue Jun 24 14:19:16 2008 From: staileys at comcast.net (staileys) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:19:16 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Gordon's 2nd adoption day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Happy 2nd adoption day Gordon!!! Don't drink too much carrot wine but still party down! Whee are all happy for you! The Three DC Fluffernutters - Pearl, Frodo and Zoe and Slave Laura -- From imwarmbreath at netscape.com Tue Jun 24 14:21:59 2008 From: imwarmbreath at netscape.com (warmbreath) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:21:59 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] (Silly) Many and Reaches, Caprain Hack soming home. References: Message-ID: <017b01c8d627$3364c5d0$60d4beac@SANDY> Hi Everypig and Everyone, The details are coming out, the awol piggies are wrapping up their impromptu adventure. None of them were willing to end the pleasure of the Royal wedding and the wonderful camaraderie that comes from piggies in a group. A few disjointed emails and text messages have come in along with one telegram, it turns out that Manny and peaches couldn't bear to part, Captain jack, reaching his boarhood was encouraged and excited by his parachute adventure drooping from Pig Air onto the Eiffel Tower with his brilliant colored parachute, which is now his favorite treasure. Both realized how inappropriate and dangerous it would be to go away alone, so Manny and Peaches accepted the chaperone duties of Jack, Jack needed the wisdom, guidance, and protection of adult pigs so they teamed up. Captain Jack has still been mourning the loss of his new older brother, the late great last of the Jolly Rodents, Charlie. He's reaching his full boarhood.and wanted his graduation tour, he didn't count the bachelor party for some reason. His adventure before settling down in his truly chosen profession as lap pig to and master of Alge, also .he has come to understand that his life as a pirate will be a hobby. He set most of their itinerary, he re crated the itineraries of most of Columbus' ,exploratory adventures of discovery, as these were also the many future bases for real pirates or the towns they actually plundered. He has collected sea shells for Alge, one piece of Eight., some recreations of pirate flags and a few books on the subject and travel Video's from PBS. They traveled by several methods, including stowing away on a Princess cruise ship, Signing on as mates on a 36 ft sloop[ traveled one leg on the re-creation of the Pinta as it also recreates Columbus' routes of discovery. They will be arriving in Florida next week aboard there cruise ship, and have booked side trips through the Florida Keys and the Everglades. Manny and Peaces talked him out of going to New Orleans, too early in its re-creation. Can you believe that when they stowed away they entered the boat with all the other rodents via the tie down rope, after checking their luggage conventionally. Poor Peaches nearly fainted but she too has developed much resourcefulness and maturity on this trip., but I'll save Manny and Peaches ports of call and adventures, but although varied and fascinating Manny would gladly have spent the whole time at a favorite Starbucks sipping no caf, nonfat whip latt? and staring into Peaches' eyes of endless vistas. I am in a small state of shock at all I have learned about our pigs adventures, so I fear my retelling is a bit flat. I may recover a little by tomorrow, so I will tell Manny and Peaches tales tomorrow Note I have made sure they did not travel to the Andes mountains of Peru for obvious reasons, so until tomorrow when I may regain my story telling verve..... they are all safe though. Sandy, slave to world traveler, Manny the Boar, adored intended of the lovely Peaches and Cream. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jun 24 16:04:12 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:04:12 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Gordon's Adoption Day Birthday Message-ID: <005901c8d635$807c2710$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Happy Adoption Day Gordon! Lots of love from Penny and all the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Tue Jun 24 16:17:25 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:17:25 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] CARE Flies Message-ID: <007401c8d637$52a01f70$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Joy, I don't know if you can buy them in your country but I have seen the old-fashioned sticky fly papers hanging up at my Rodentologists' house. I can remember these from my childhood, long before the invention of aerosol flysprays ( too dangerous to use near precious piggies ) and I think that they used to be called Honeypot or something similar. I had no idea that they were still available. They came in a small cardboard cylinder and I think that they had to be warmed, after which the long sticky paper could be unfurled and hung up. They looked disgusting but caught many flies. In my greenhouses I hang yellow sticky traps to catch the whitefly and lots of other flies are attracted to these and meet a sticky end, apparently drawn by the bright yellow colour. Not very smart to hang in the house but if they work, I guess it is worth putting up with them. Again, these might not be on sale where you are. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From calliope at geeksnet.com Tue Jun 24 22:05:16 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:05:16 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: birthday wishes, Peanut Message-ID: <4861A7DC.9000406@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish Peanut a very Happy 1st Birthday! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From calliope at geeksnet.com Tue Jun 24 22:07:02 2008 From: calliope at geeksnet.com (Cindy) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:07:02 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: adoption day birthday wishes, Gordon Message-ID: <4861A846.8070206@geeksnet.com> We would like to wish Gordon a very Happy 2nd Adoption Day and a very Happy 4th Birthday! Cindy, Tumbleweed, and Friday From davedave121 at aol.com Wed Jun 25 05:28:21 2008 From: davedave121 at aol.com (davedave121 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:28:21 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Care; classroom pig Message-ID: <8CAA4BCF1D49221-D8-4D9F@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com> Hi laura Well done !!!! Love and wheeks from Dave Yvonne and the herd at piggy palace uk ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk Wed Jun 25 12:45:32 2008 From: kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk (Dr Kay Dudman) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:45:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Gpdd] [announce] Happy Adoption Day Gordon! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With best wishes for a very happy adoption day, Gordon! Congratulations on your excellent choice of slave! Kay and the Piggy Porcelains Companies Act 2006 : http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/companyinfo From kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk Wed Jun 25 12:46:32 2008 From: kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk (Dr Kay Dudman) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:46:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Gpdd] [announce] Alge birthday greetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Belated wishes for a very happy birthday to you, Alge! Hope you had a great day! Kay and the Piggy Porcelains Companies Act 2006 : http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/companyinfo From kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk Wed Jun 25 12:47:56 2008 From: kay.dudman at londonmet.ac.uk (Dr Kay Dudman) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:47:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Gpdd] [announce] welcome Casanova In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Piggy Porcelains would like to extend a warm welcome to new piggy Casanova. They have noticed that Casanova is the book of the week on BBC Radio 4...is this more than a coincidence??? Kay Companies Act 2006 : http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/companyinfo From bunzella at yahoo.ca Wed Jun 25 18:18:58 2008 From: bunzella at yahoo.ca (pat schuett) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Mammary Tumor Message-ID: <76814.70969.qm@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, My piggie Doris went to the vet on Sunday for her latest urinary infection; they did an ultrasound and then an x-ray to rule out bladder stones (thank goodness, there were none of those), but in the course of shaving her tummy for the ultrasound, the vet noticed a very tiny bump between Doris' nipples. She thinks it's a tumor and has recommended that we do surgery to remove it after Doris is finished the antibiotics for her urinary infection. I've done some research on this since I talked to the vet and am still trying to figure out what to do. The risks of *any* kind of surgery on a piggie make me really, really nervous. To make matters worse, there really is no vet in the city that I would consider highly skilled with guinea pigs; one of the local vets (not my regular vet) who often gets referred to for guinea pigs refused to spay my girls because she told me she considered gps in general to be "poor surgical candidates". I guess one of the things that would make me go ahead with it is that my regular vet did an excellent job on surgery to remove a patch of skin cancer from one of my bunnies; the incision healed well and he seemed to recover from the surgery itself quite quickly --- unfortunately, the cancer had already spread to his lungs and he died less than two months later (another reason to have Doris' bump removed as quickly as possible). >From what I've read (on Guinea Lynx and elsewhere), only about 30% of guinea pig mammary tumors are malignant, but it does seem like something that needs to be dealt with as soon as possible; even if it's cancer, if it can be removed cleanly when it's still small, she may have a good chance of survival. Sorry to blather on so long, but it would be great to hear from anyone who has faced a similar decision or who just has an opinion on it. Doris and I still have about ten days of UTI antibiotics to get through before I have to actually decide how to proceed, but I would REALLY welcome some input from you all... Pat (with piggies Doris, Audrey and Olivia, not to mention the bunnies Violet and Dave, and the cats Cricket, Lexie and Isis) __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From Algernon07 at aol.com Thu Jun 26 02:09:30 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:09:30 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Announcement: Happy Adoption Day Gordon Message-ID: Hey Gordon. An adoption Day celebration! Great. Hope it is a happy one. Captain Jack, on his way home ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From Algernon07 at aol.com Thu Jun 26 02:22:36 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:22:36 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Happy Birthday Peanut Message-ID: Here's Wishing You A Happy Birtthday Peanut. One whole year old. We hope you have many more. Alge and the soon to be back (I hope) Captan Jack ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From piggyfriends at tesco.net Thu Jun 26 08:43:58 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:43:58 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCE Welcome Casanova Message-ID: <002401c8d78a$51c9fdb0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Thank you to Kay and the Piggy Porcelains for the welcome to little Casanova. I think that Radio 4 chose their book of the week in his honour although he is a little too young to appreciate it. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From cazza177 at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 26 10:10:21 2008 From: cazza177 at ntlworld.com (Cazza177) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:10:21 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] flies in piggie's cage References: Message-ID: <007001c8d796$61e6efd0$564f1252@DelBoy> Dear Joy As long as you are removing all the poohs from your guinea pig's hutch/run daily, making sure that the bedding he is on is changed daily and that all old food and soiled hay is removed daily, then there will be nothing to attract the flies. It may be that you need to remove the pooh twice (or even more) a day to help keep the flies away. The flies can only be attracted if there is something there to attract them, and if you are shampooing your gp once a week as well as all the above hygiene steps, it is a bit of a mystery as to what could be drawing them in. Blow fly strike can be fatal to both rabbits and guinea pigs. With all the hygiene precautions you are taking, perhaps it isn't your gp himself that is what the flies are drawn to. Is something near the hutch/run that may be what is attracting the flies, such as a garden compost heap, a garden bin, a household bin, a tree/shrub with flowers or fruit (which can decay) that is attracting them? Be care what deterants you use for the flies, as some maybe harmful to gp's. I hope you resolve the problem soon. Kind regards Carole From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Thu Jun 26 10:27:20 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:27:20 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] Announce: Princess Snowflake's Wedding Announcement & Pigtures!!! (blog) Message-ID: Hello Piggies & Slaves! Check out Princess Snowflake's blog entry for Wednes, June 25, 2008. I've already posted her Wedding Announcement on the Digest, but just in case some of you missed it. But, what ya'll haven't seen are the Prince and Princess in their Wedding attire. Oooooooh, I think you're gonna like it. Terry did a Wonderful job designing the Princess's wedding veil and the Prince's top hat (THANK YOU, Terry!!!). They make quite the couple, I must say. Check it out at: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/blog-june2508.aspx Also, if you have missed any of the previous posts, you can see them at: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/critter-blog/guinea-pig-mcneil/leah-default.aspx ENJOY!!! Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeps, Leah...Slave to Princess Snowflake :-) From wf at hartsville.net Thu Jun 26 12:19:59 2008 From: wf at hartsville.net (Will Farmer) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:19:59 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Happy Adoption Day, Gordon ! Message-ID: <004901c8d7a8$7e0dcb90$2c01a8c0@vaiodesktop> Dear Master Gordie-Gords, It's Summertime And The Living Is Easy. Enjoy your Adoption Day celebration and give lots of loving wheeks and kisses to your wonderful slave, Audrey. Your loving co-slave, Will From Algernon07 at aol.com Thu Jun 26 23:04:58 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:04:58 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Fly paper in USA Message-ID: Much to my amazement I did, a while back, discover that old-time "fly paper." It was in a fed store. I had no idea they still made it but apparently they go. Farm supply stores probably carry it as well. It's on a spool like thing and you just unroll and hang it. Good luck! Alge ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jun 26 23:27:26 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:27:26 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Casanova Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923091DFE@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Hi Casanova a HUGE welcome from us in OZ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You're a lucky piggie to be with the PiggyFriends and their lovely slave. Glynis and Duke (in mem Sully) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jun 26 23:28:35 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:28:35 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Happy Birthday Peanut Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923091DFF@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU xxxxxxxxx Hope you had a great 1st birthday We're sure you got spoilt by your lovely slave xxxx Glynis and Duke (in mem Sully) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jun 26 23:30:34 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:30:34 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Luke Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923091E01@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> Hi Luke welcome to the gpdd you're going to love living with your slave and little friends Isabel and Lily xxxx Hope we hear more about you soon Glynis and Duke (in mem Sully) xxxx From Glynis at garnay.com.au Thu Jun 26 23:29:30 2008 From: Glynis at garnay.com.au (Glynis Robson) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:29:30 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] Happy Birthday Gordon Message-ID: <1E79BEF045F13847938D188011CBF923091E00@GARNAYSBS.garnayindustries.local> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU xxxxxxxxxxxx Wow 2 years young, hope you had a great day and munched up alllll the treats you got. Glynis and Duke (in mem Sully) xxxx From matilda at ptsi.net Fri Jun 27 00:32:54 2008 From: matilda at ptsi.net (Marsha Neely) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH (Trixie) References: Message-ID: <00dc01c8d80e$de519750$e30f11ac@yourat5qgaac3z> HEALTH (Trixie) Again, I am in a very sad place. I don't think my Trixie is going to make it through the night. She had bladder surgery 2 weeks ago and she made it through just great. Night before last she quit eating and now I can't get her to drink anything. My vet met me at his office late last night and gave her a shot and some fluids. He told me to bring her out this morning and leave her, which I did, and he gave her more fluids and another shot. He watched her all day and I picked her up. He told me to bring her back tomorrow morning and he would do the same thing as today, but I don't think she's going to make it. She still hasn't eaten and she is so weak. I'll let you all know what happens. I don't know what to do at this point. I lost 4 babies at the end of last year. Some people would think it's weird to ask for prayer for an animal, but she's my baby. I know you all understand and you will pray for Trixie. I'm so sorry for all of you who have lost babies lately. I have been reading the posts, but my life has been really hectic. Now this. Our only consolation is that they will all be waiting at the Bridge for us. Pray for my baby. Marsha Bart, Trixie, Bubba, and Kizzie From undermyskin11 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 27 00:22:33 2008 From: undermyskin11 at hotmail.com (lucky duck) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:22:33 -1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [misc] quick message from peanut Message-ID: Thank you for wishing me a happy birthday guys :3 When my slave told me how you were saying happy birthday to me and stuffs I was so happy a popcorned I got to eat some watermelon which I chose to share with spike my best friend And a message to all the gunni pigs out there, If you popcorn enough your slave might just give you something yummy to eat! And from Peanut, Spike, Boomer and Heather(slave) Doris you are in our prayers! <3 ~And also welcome Casanova!!~ _________________________________________________________________ Do more with your photos with Windows Live Photo Gallery. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_photos_022008 From leah.mcneil at wachovia.com Fri Jun 27 11:03:29 2008 From: leah.mcneil at wachovia.com (leah.mcneil at wachovia.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:03:29 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: A very bad photo of Captian Jack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Aaaaaaaaaah, the Cap'n looks just dashing! And I Love his motto. Soooo true. Ha ha! Oh, and I think the Royal couple are planning to spend their summers in Europe. Love ya! me :-) If anyone missed it, check out the Captain: http://www.smallanimalchannel.com/blog/viewbio.aspx?apid=87245 From piggyfriends at tesco.net Fri Jun 27 04:48:29 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:48:29 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Happy Birthday Peanut Message-ID: <004901c8d832$93c53b00$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Slightly belated happy birthday wishes to Peanut. Well done Heather for getting his weight up to 2lb.4oz. despite all of his eating problems. Many a piggy has been saved through syringe feeding so please don't feel bad about having to do this. You've given Peanut his life back! If you ever find out about the ring on his teeth do post and let us know. I can't imagine how it got there. Big hugs to Peanut. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From faststats at faststatschecks.com Fri Jun 27 13:47:12 2008 From: faststats at faststatschecks.com (Mary Fran McCluskey) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:47:12 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] Virtual: Wedding Message-ID: <006b01c8d87d$d4c68230$0200000a@MaryFran> Oh Leah, What wonderful pigtures! Teddy's pink bowtie perfectly matched the Princess's ears and little pink lips. --Mary Fran Still piggyless and, yes, still sad From davedave121 at aol.com Fri Jun 27 13:51:41 2008 From: davedave121 at aol.com (davedave121 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:51:41 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH ;Trixie Message-ID: <8CAA695975B16E6-D00-423@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com> Hi marsha I feel so sad for you in that horrible horrible place you are in, I know it only to well, the pain is unbearable. When I am in this place I try and think of the how much love and joy they give us , (I really can not imagine a life without piggy?s). When you say you can not get Trixie to drink or eat I was wondering if you have been syringe feeding her, I have had poorly pigs that have responded very well to 4 hourly liquid feeds, Vet ark?s CRITICAL CARE FORMULA can be a life saver, also liquidised veg with milled timothy hay is excellent , you also need to incorporate a probiotic, this is very important as piggy?s digestive system breaks down very quickly, and that?s where a lot of problems stem from, FIBREPLEX is very good , also AVIPRO PLUS. It can take a long time, one of my old boars (Gizzy a 6 year old) lost half his body weight , and it took me four months to get him right. Sadly I have a sinking feeling that you are past all this and I?m desperately trying to throw you a life line, I pray this is not the case . Please God let Trixie pull through . Yours in hope upon hope Dave, Yvonne and the herd at piggy palace UK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From dr.leibq at hotmail.com Fri Jun 27 17:01:39 2008 From: dr.leibq at hotmail.com (Ruth Leibowitz) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:01:39 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Coming to Scotland Message-ID: Dear fellow guinea pig lovers: I am traveling to Scotland for the first time soon. Since this is an international list, I was wondering if any of you live in or very close to Glasgow? I will be staying there for a couple of days before and after a workshop on the Isle of Cumbrae. If any of you live there and would like to meet for a cup of coffee and perhaps a delightful conversation of the guinea pigs we have known, please feel free to get in touch with me back-channel at Dr.Leibq at hotmail.com. Good wishes, Ruth in Portland _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008 From labbatesms at comcast.net Fri Jun 27 17:16:29 2008 From: labbatesms at comcast.net (labbatesms at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:16:29 +0000 Subject: [Gpdd] [BEHAVIOR] waving piggy Message-ID: <062720082116.24275.486558AD000CB38F00005ED322165662769C039C0A9B0E0D0D0E04@comcast.net> Does anyone else have a piggy who waves at them? Several months ago, my Mocha started waving at Daddy Slave and I. At first, we thought it was just a funny little thing she was doing with her front leg. But now, we see that she does it on purpose. She "waves" when she wants to be petted. When she's in her cage, she stands up on the edge of the cage, and waves her front left foot. Then when you go over to pet her, she's happy. She closes her eyes and puts her head down. Then after a few minutes, she's done being petted. She's done this more to her Daddy Slave than me, but that's probably because he's the guy who gives the piggies their treats. It's the cutest thing and it's earned her the nickname "the waving piggy". Stephanie Mocha, Lily, and Felix From matilda at ptsi.net Fri Jun 27 19:02:00 2008 From: matilda at ptsi.net (Marsha Neely) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:02:00 -0500 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE (Trixie) References: Message-ID: <006801c8d8a9$cf3ea140$e30f11ac@yourat5qgaac3z> Thank you to everyone who sent good thoughts to me and Trixie. When I prayed last night, I asked God to do what was best for Trix because I didn't want to be selfish. He helped her to the Rainbow Bridge early this morning. That's 5 furbabies I've lost in 9 months, and I've not written anything about any of them. I know I need to do that so I can have closure, too. I will try to write a tribute to all of them soon. Thank you again to all my friends at the digest. With true sincerity, Marsha Bubba and Kizzie From Algernon07 at aol.com Fri Jun 27 22:10:59 2008 From: Algernon07 at aol.com (Algernon07 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:10:59 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Trixie Message-ID: Please know that Trixie is in all of our prayers, as you are, too. Do keep us posted. Also, you may have to make a decision on what is in Tixie's best interest. I pray that she recovers, but sometimes we must do what we can to relieve their sufffering. It is always an agonizing dilemma. God bless, Alge and Captain Jack ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From undermyskin11 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 27 23:55:08 2008 From: undermyskin11 at hotmail.com (lucky duck) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:55:08 -1000 Subject: [Gpdd] [misc] pet peave Message-ID: Hi piggy friends slave Heather here, haha I just wanted to let some feelings out. At the end of the school year I was showing my parents and some of the other parents in my school the cavy sanctuary and of course I was telling them information about them and how my project revolves on keeping them healthy. why why WHY does every conversation about cavies always lead to talking about people in South America that EAT cavies! They talk about eating cavies while we are standing there in the middle of the cavy room (yes they have there own room) in front of the cavies. It just makes me think about people eating our cavies and it makes me feel sad and want to cry! It was horrible. Another thing is that I lost my cavy Papaya a few years ago. I was devastated. For a whole year I would wake up crying in the middle of the night or during the day I would have to walk off from other people to settle myself down if i started thinking about him. During this time I would get heaps of people asking me, "Why are you so sad? It's just a guinea pig." errr... Just a guinea pig.... Just a cavy.... Just a best friend.... Just a loved one that I care for.... I felt like blowing their heads off. Bless Papaya. Does anyone else have other pet peeves about cavies or feel the same way. I just really needed to get that out! :) -Peanut, Spike, Boomer and slave Heather :) _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 From davedave121 at aol.com Sat Jun 28 08:42:33 2008 From: davedave121 at aol.com (davedave121 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:42:33 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: mammary tumor Message-ID: <8CAA73391E300F1-BF0-233D@FWM-M39.sysops.aol.com> Hi pat You say Doris?s latest U.T.I, how old is Doris, this can be an important risk factor, the older the pig the higher the risk (we lost our 5 year old house bunny Bugsy to anaesthetics last year). I don?t know about anyone else but I do know that several of my pigs have little lumps and bumps, and have done for a long time. Our vet assures me that they are nothing to worry about, piggys like us are porn to lumps and bumps. I would be slightly concerned that it is between the nipples , and I would not be to worried about an surgery providing Doris is relatively young ,as I would not think that removing a small bump and investigating the surrounding tissues to be anywhere near as invasive as having a sow spayed , though I?m not a vet! Personally I would get 2 other opinions from other vets, before embarking on surgery . Please tell me apart from the relevant antibiotics, have you found anything useful to combat U.T.I, as we have a sow,(hetty) who has had recurring U.T.I for over three years, it comes back every 3-4 months , and we have tried most remedies, none seem to have any effect , we have a terrible time with her, she is fine now but we are dreading the infection. Yours: hoping Doris?s bump is just a bump Dave,Yvonne and the herd at piggy palace UK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From davedave121 at aol.com Sat Jun 28 09:30:48 2008 From: davedave121 at aol.com (davedave121 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:30:48 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH; mammary tumor Message-ID: <8CAA73A4F6FE235-DDC-14D6@WEBMAIL-DG01.sim.aol.com> Hi again pat. Just an after thought . After showing our vet a print out of a article by Peter Gurney, on the dangers of anaesthetics pigs for dental work our vet now files and trims our pigs molars without aesthetic (thanks to late Peter , as at least one of our old bores would most certainly died under aesthetic ). Why don?t you ask your vet to do a biopsy using a local antistatic . Just a thought. Yours again, Dave, Yvonne and the herd at piggy palace UK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 11:05:00 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Trixie Message-ID: <703808.82334.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh, Marsha!? What's the update on your sweet baby girl? I am praying so much that she will get through this! Stay strong... we all understand. Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy (and his bride), Baci, Sweetie Until there are none, adopt one! Don't buy while shelter animals die. ? From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jun 28 12:52:59 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:52:59 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE Trixie Message-ID: <003501c8d93f$6f4b1de0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Marsha, I am so very sorry that Trixie did not make it. We had been thinking about her all day and then I saw your post this morning. At least she left you at a time of her choosing and both of you did not have to endure that last stressful trip to the vets. I know all too well how hard it can be to lose several piggies in a short time, having a herd of my own, all getting old together and find it cathartic to write their stories to share with our friends here. We all send our most sincere condolences at this sad time. R.I.P. Trixie. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jun 28 12:54:08 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:54:08 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Hetty's UTI Message-ID: <003901c8d93f$968bcad0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Dave and Yvonne, Have you tried the human cystitis remedy for Hetty? I have successfully treated my Gingerbread using Cymalon from the pharmacy. There are other brands too. This was recommended by my Rodentologists and comes in a box of 6 sachets. For a piggy you need 1/4 sachet to an eggcup of water and is given for 2 days. Syringe in a little at a time during the day. On Peter's website, he has a different dose, dividing one sachet into three for a three day course.. Mix each third, as you need it, with an eggcup of water and syringe this in during the day, little and often. He said that 2 days should be enough but that it is worth giving the third day's supply. It's worth a try rather than keep giving antibiotics to Hetty. I have never tried it but cranberry juice is reputed to keep cystitis at bay. Penny and the Piggyfriends. From piggyfriends at tesco.net Sat Jun 28 13:12:06 2008 From: piggyfriends at tesco.net (Penny Charlesworth) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:12:06 +0100 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Doris's mammary tumour Message-ID: <004801c8d942$18f557a0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Pat, I keep considering what reply to give you regarding Doris's lump. No longer having the expertise of the wonderful vet, who treated the Piggyfriends for many years, I have to say that any operation would have to be approached with great trepidation and as a last resort. Good GP vets in England are thin on the ground. My Rodentologists are fantastic but they are not allowed to perform invasive surgery. Many years ago, my Lima was successfully treated for a tumour between her nipples, not because it was malignant but because the size of the thing was preventing her moving around normally. I was terrified about the operation and brought her home still unconscious from the anaesthetic. I sat up with her all night and at 3 a.m. she woke up, looked around and started eating the grass which I had left in front of her. She was five at the time and lived to be seven. I have always considered that she was extremely lucky. Before deciding, I would ask for a biopsy to be taken using a local anaesthetic, to see if the tumour is malignant and, if not, I would leave well alone. I have had many piggies with lumps and bumps, which caused them no problem. You need to weigh up the pros and cons but personally, I consider the anaesthetic risk to be so high that an operation has to be a last ditch effort. Lots of love to Doris, Penny and the Piggyfriends. From KSkosich at msn.com Sat Jun 28 14:23:09 2008 From: KSkosich at msn.com (J D) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:23:09 -0600 Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: To Marsha N. Message-ID: Marsha, I am so very sorry to read about Trixie and the other sad losses you have had this past year. I hope the happier memories of all of them will be a comfort to you. You will have quite a reception one day when you reach the Rainbow Bridge and all your furry friends will stampede to meet you. In sincere sympathy, Kathy S From cherylcline at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 15:04:02 2008 From: cherylcline at gmail.com (Cheryl Cline) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:04:02 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Mammary tumor Message-ID: <92d7e7030806281204y123f57dax4d58dfd99ce46f42@mail.gmail.com> My Alex P. Hamilton had a mammary tumor removed last year. I noticed he had a lump soon after I adopted him in October 2005, but I just thought I'd keep an eye on it. It was on the larger side - about the size of a quarter. I should have taken him in earlier, but didn't. I figured that as long as he seemed okay, I wasn't going to put him through surgery. However, in August 2007, the lump grew bigger and actually ruptured - there appeared to be an angry red crater on one side of it. We rushed him to the vet the same day, and he told us that Alex would not survive if the lump wasn't removed immediately. Alex was over 4 years old, but we just weren't ready to lose him yet. Thankfully, Alex sailed through surgery; the recovery was only a little rocky, as he stopped eating about 36 hours after the surgery. I mashed up pellets and water and syringe-fed this mix to him, and after about a day he got his appetite back. The other hitch is that I foolishly removed his Elizabethan collar after about a week instead of two, and he yanked out all his stitches and had to be rushed back to the vet...they cleaned him up and he recovered completely after that. Now it's been almost a year and he's still doing well. It had been very complicated because I was quite literally in the middle of a move, and discovered ON THE ROAD that Alex had yanked his stitches out, and had to find him a vet in the place I was moving to. It was also on the road that the surgery vet disclosed that the biopsy results were malignant. I thought the surgery was for nothing and cancer would claim him, but very luckily, it appears that they managed to remove the malignancy entirely. I understand completely your apprehension about surgery and anesthetic. I was very worried about Alex since he was already a senior piggy. It seems like you will just have to weigh the risks. I monitored Alex's lump and eventually it became malignant, though he survived surgery to remove it. I have no idea what the odds are on that. By the way, I recently took Alex to the vet for a drooling problem, and after briefly looking in his mouth with a scope, the vet wanted to knock him out for a full dental examination and possibly filing, if it came to that. She also called me the next day and said that the cause might be nausea instead, and they would want to x-ray his stomach. However, I've since discovered that it was probably caused entirely by not keeping the water bottle clean enough...which is something the vet never brought up. Also, after what I've read on the list, I'm suspicious of any vet that has to anesthetize a piggy just to examine his mouth properly. I was a little disappointed because I found out about the vet through guinealynx. Anyway, I think Alex is doing fine now, and thank goodness I didn't put him through the full exam! So I agree with those on the list who would tell you get a second opinion. Hope this helps... Cheryl and Alex From cherylcline at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 15:47:57 2008 From: cherylcline at gmail.com (Cheryl Cline) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:47:57 -0700 Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Drooling / vet review Message-ID: <92d7e7030806281247lf8d83f8w7ae3f6295515b036@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to Maren and everyone else who advised me on the guinea pig drooling issue. Alex saw Leila Marcucci, D.V.M. at Bay Area Bird Hospital (http://www.bayareabirdhospital.com/). Guinea Lynx recommends the owner, Lynn R. Dustin, V.M.D., for dental problems, but I didn't get to see her. Dr. Marcucci looked in his mouth with a scope but didn't see any issues; she recommended bringing him back the next day, putting him under to fully examine his mouth, and to file his teeth if any problems were present. She also suspected infection. I took Alex home and she left me a message the next day saying she had researched the issue and found that nausea can also cause drooling. She suggested x-raying his abdomen. She also told me that he could have eaten something that made him drool. Well, I noticed that when he was away from his water bottle, he didn't really drool. I completely disinfected the bottle and the problem seemed to clear up on its own in a few days. There is still a little bit of dampness on his chest that I think is typical for him, but no full-on drooling where his chin and anything he was resting on was soaked. I'm glad Alex didn't have to deal with the trauma of a full-on exam, anesthesia or no, but I'm particularly disappointed that Dr. Marcucci couldn't do a full dental exam without anesthetic. Alex is over five now and I want to avoid anesthesia whenever possible. Also I'm annoyed with myself for not bleaching the bottle weekly as I usually do. I was sorry that Bay Area Bird Hospital didn't bring up the water bottle issue. I need to call them back and let them know that that was the cause. I was impressed that Dr. Marcucci at least researched the issue and called me the next day, and also that they gave me a handout with information on guinea pig care. It had a few errors though, like recommending broccoli for Vitamin C when cruciferous vegetables can give piggies gas. Just thought the description of my experiences might be useful. -Cheryl and Alex From davedave121 at aol.com Sat Jun 28 16:39:06 2008 From: davedave121 at aol.com (davedave121 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:39:06 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] rainbow bridge ; TRIXIE Message-ID: <8CAA7762500D621-10AC-5408@WEBMAIL-MC04.sysops.aol.com> Marsha ; we are so very very sorry for your loss . Think of all the joy and love that Trixie and your other four baby's brought you and celebrate their life, and when you can, tell us all about them. yours in love of all piggy's, Dave,Yvonne and all at piggy palace ; GOD BLESS ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From dganley at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jun 28 21:26:21 2008 From: dganley at tampabay.rr.com (Deb Ganley) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Gpdd] misc--pet peeve Message-ID: <002001c8d987$23abe7a0$0301a8c0@debbie47340559> People talk about the South American thing about cavies as food because that's the only thing they know about them. The world at large is very ignorant of anything piggie. Some countries eat dogs & cats--but if we mentioned that to a dog or cat person, we'd be looked at as insensitive--but it's ok for non-piggie people to tell us the same thing & we're not supposed to react. I'm not a proponent of school pigs, but you seem to provide your's with the best & are intent on educating the public. Good for you! I lost my first pig, Potter, this past November. I couldn't talk about her for 2 months without breaking down crying. People don't realize that piggies have personalities & are members of the family, not throw-away pets. I lost a much-loved cat years ago (before I got into piggies) & had some idiot immediately ask me "are you going to replace him?" like he could ever be "replaced." (I had someone ask me the same thing when Potter passed away & I shocked them by busting out crying!) A month later, my grandmother passed away & the same woman expressed her condolences. I very nicely thanked her & said "& no, I'm not replacing her either!" She knew exactly what I meant--you had to see the look on her face, it was priceless! Unfortunately, there are a lot of ignorant & insensitive people in the world & you just have to grit your teeth & consider the source. Bill Engvall (Redneck Comedy Tour on Comedy Central) does a whole thing about how stupid people should have to wear a sign stating that they're ignorant--he'll cite examples & his tag line is "Here's your sign." If I had my way, we could hand out signs like that with little piggie outlines on them--but they just wouldn't get it anyway. Deb, Molly, Emma, Winnie & Lily (& Potter, always with us) From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 10:39:53 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge: Trixie Message-ID: <209278.14429.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm so sorry to hear that Trixie has gone to the bridge. I know what a difficult time this is and just want you to know that I am thinking of you. Rest in Peace, Trixie.? Joanne Spicy, Merri, Macie, Teddy & his bride, Baci, Sweetie In heaven and forever missed:? Annie, Abbie, Monkee Until there are none, adopt one! Don't buy while shelter animals die. ? From dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 10:49:46 2008 From: dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com (dogcatpiggymom at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: pet peeves (Heather) Message-ID: <943405.842.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Heather! It's difficult to imagine that the little souls we love so much are eaten elsewhere.? No pun intended, but it's a difficult concept for me to swallow. I was totally bored yesterday and made the grave mistake of going on You Tube and looking up guinea pigs.? Oh, some videos were precious, but many were downright disturbing.? What are people thinking?!!!? Some pigs were held so poorly that I thought for sure they'd fall, break their backs, and were frightened out of their minds!? Do people do this just for the video and "fun"?? There were piggies thrown (yes, thrown) into water and forced to swim, on a trampoline while someone was jumping on it, and a very big, pregnant sow sitting in an obviously uncomfortable position.? Talk about MY pet peeves: these videos and irresponsible piggy owners! Of course, it didn't stop there, but I had to stop looking.? There were videos of cavies being raised as food, the cuy itself, and perhaps the most ugly: piggies being fed to snakes!? I didn't turn that one off quick enough and had nightmares about that poor, screaming pig all night long. So, yes, when it comes to guinea pigs (ALL animals, really), I have many pet peeves!? Be careful when viewing You Tube! I am so grateful to meet a bunch of friends like all of you to remind me that there really ARE wonderful animal-loving people in the world! Joanne Mom to 3 dogs, 5 cats, 6 piggies Until there are none, adopt one! Don't buy while shelter animals die. ? From rzm.2 at juno.com Sun Jun 29 17:41:37 2008 From: rzm.2 at juno.com (Jaime) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:41:37 GMT Subject: [Gpdd] MISC-Trixie Message-ID: <20080629.144137.26054.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Marsha- It's certainly not weird at all to ask for prayers for Trixie. We went thru the whole leaving Molly at the vet thing when she was sick & looking back I wish I would have been strong enough to just let her go. I kept thinking how alone she must have felt without us there for her. Not trying to be negative or make you doubt yourself, just remembering... We will certainly keep Trixie in our prayers & you as well. Take care. ~Jaime & Mimi~ ~Molly, Radar & Albert always in our hearts~ http://piggiepages001.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Inventors: Does your idea have potential for millions? Click for info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mfCNRY6B9rYknvWQ9dVIpNRmMYlTWzaojQjRwCrCpArq3Wm/ From juwles at bigpond.com Mon Jun 30 07:42:22 2008 From: juwles at bigpond.com (Julie Juwles Johnson) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:42:22 +1000 Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Doris's mammary tumour In-Reply-To: <004801c8d942$18f557a0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> References: <004801c8d942$18f557a0$0302a8c0@inspiron1150> Message-ID: <69BC288A86C24907B48E69F97A4DF0C4@JuliePC> Hi all, in reply to Pat's query re mammary tumour.......... believe it or not my sister's piggy, a boar named Hamish, had surgery today for removal of two mammary tumours! I have been very lucky in seeming to have found an excellent guinea pig/rat vet. He's South African, worked in the UK for 6 years with small animals, and has now come downunder. It was a 1 hour's drive to the clinic, but well worth it. The vet suggested both tumours should come off because they were quite big and felt lobulated. He had the feeling they were aggressive. That practice is going to be using isofluorane as an anaesthetic soonish, but at the moment still uses halothane. I said no way........ isofluorane or nothing. The vet actually agreed with me, said good choice, and he would ring around a few vet practices to see if he could "borrow" isofluorane for the surgery. We took Hamish back in this morning for his surgery. The vet excised two large cysts on the mammary glands, he felt that something is skew-wiff in the hormone department. But, deeper underneath the cysts were/are two larger lumps, He removed one quite large lump, which he feels is just fat, but is going to have sent to the pathology lab for testing. As there had already been a bit of blood loss by Hamish, and he had been under anaesthetic for 35 minutes, the vet decided against taking the other deeper lump out of the other side. As we live so far away from the vet practice, he performed surgery early on Hamish and we collected Hamish at 1pm, about 1 hour after he recovered from anaesthetic. He was still groggy and not eating when we collected him, but the moment he saw my sister and heard her voice, he started wolfing into his celery and strawberries and grapes! Since we got the little boy home, he hasn't stopped eating grass either! He's doing so well, incredible when one thinks that this piggy has had a double mastectomy!! I know I haven't been much help, but wanted to impart my first-hand knowledge to give you some idea of what might be in store. I was very surprised that Hamish had the two tumours, but apparently both boar and sow are susceptible to mammary tumours/cysts. Best of luck to you, with your decision and whatever you decide to do, Julie & her pair of precious piggies From DebJonSara at aol.com Mon Jun 30 14:27:55 2008 From: DebJonSara at aol.com (DebJonSara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:27:55 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] [RAINBOW BRIDGE] Condolences for Trixie Message-ID: Marsha We just wanted to add our sincere condolences to those already received on the sad departure of your precious piggie Trixie to the Rainbow Bridge. Slave Debbie has been in the same position as you, praying for what's best for a poorly piggie even though she has known that is likely to mean a painful loss for her. In fact, she sings a song every night at bedtime about the Rainbow Bridge, just in case anyone finds themselves heading there unexpectedly during the night (as Pirouette once did), and if any of the Dolly Mixtures is really ill, she sings a different song telling them their time has come and they must go to that happy place and wait for the rest of us. We have lost two Dolly Mixtures since Christmas, and we know how hard it is. Please know that you are in our thoughts and prayers at this sad time, and reaching out to hug you across the ocean. Run free, treasured Trixie, and enjoy that luscious meadow and being reunited with your friends who have already gone there. Debbie and the Dix Dolly Mixtures From DebraStory at aol.com Mon Jun 30 18:07:50 2008 From: DebraStory at aol.com (DebraStory at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:50 EDT Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Calico's Surgery Message-ID: Hello To All Cavies and Slaves: I haven't been on the list for a while due to illness and family problems. When trying to catch up, I was so very sorry to see how many of our dear fur babies were ill, or had passed over the bridge. Sincere condolences to all who lost fur babies or have an ill fur baby. My 3 1 /2 year old cavy, Snickers, has developed a fairly large tumor on his head, between his eyes. He had a needle biopsy done a month or so ago, which came back inconclusive. The vet recommended watching the tumor closely and bringing Snickers back if it grew larger. Well, to make a long story shorter, the tumor did grow larger, and Snickers is scheduled for surgery Wednesday morning. The Story Cavies and I, Debra, would appreciate prayers and healing thoughts to be sent Snicker's way. We hope and pray that his surgery goes well and that he will have a complete recovery. We are also praying that the tumor is not cancerous and will not have spread to the rest of his body. He is a sweet, gentle boy, who is very much loved. He is also a member of the LAPS piggy club. We hope he has many more happy years of life. Wheeeeeeks from, Debra and The Story Piggies **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)